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xclusive · 10-07-2007, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte

I don't need books about business anymore. I've run a mainstream company since long before there was an internet.

Reread the quote I commented on. QuickBuck said it perfectly in my opinion.
Specifically the final sentence underlined.

Originally Posted by Quick Buck
i'm sorry, do i owe the good people of gfy something?

had we been approached with a question of "QuickBuck, what the heck is going on?" then we would have approached it with an answer of "ok, we're looking into it, give us a few hours".

Do you see any threads giving us even close to a suggested opportunity to look into it?

The moment I saw the threads I knew exactly what the result of any explanation would be... just check the first few threads, the assumption is that if we don't admit to actively stealing joins that we are lying... so we're either lying or stealing?

Treat me with respect, contact me about concerns, and I will do the same to you... treat me like a crook and I will treat you like an idiot

Noob, When you stop driving that pinto and upgrade to a real car let me know

Blazing · 10-07-2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Yeah, I'm sure a rogue affiliate is promoting xxxpass because of its wonderful tour. Oh wait, there is no tour. Today just a link to the members area, Friday it had one whole link to join and the link to the members area.

It is nice, again, to see the true colors of the other programs/people that endorse this type of activity.

unfortunately, the links from this guys .org & .net sites with unauthorized content is still linking up to the join page....

Blazing · 10-07-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike D

I actually made this post back in Feb 2007 about the same problem. It has been going on for a while. n Since QB already termed the affiliate, anyone got some good ideas get the illegal pictures taken down. I know the owner of CarolCox.com gave it a pretty good shot to no avail....

"Since GFY is the place to get to word out....

Just found this site using at least two girls content and I suspect all the girls content illegally. There are no watermarks or links back to any of the girls. Who ever this is has gotten themselves up to number 2 or in some cases number 1 on google using the girls name but with a .org (not technically illegal....I guess) But their site is using the girls pictures to link to a site in no way affiliated with said girls. Here are a couple of the girls this is happening to...

CelesteFox.com

and the site using unathorized content

CelesteFox.org

and here are a few more...

AlmondTease.com

the number 2 site in google for Almond Tease

almondtease.org

and one more, although there are many...

CarolCox.com

and the non watermarked site

CarolCox.org

All the links of the .org sites eventually link to:

http://wow.eroticagateway.com/signup/signup.php?step=signup&nats=NDE5MzM6MzA6MTIw&tour= tour2
I tried to email them to let them know about one of their affiliates, but having trouble finding an email on the whois or anywhere else. I am sure they would like to know about this. This person even has Arika Ames pictures up! Insert timeline...

You can also find pictures of tons others

If I am making a mistake on the other girls, my public apologies..."

__________________

There is no mistake in your findings... the guy who runs all those .net & .org sites of 100's of pornstar and sologirl sites is sending the traffic directly to xxxpass.com which is own and operated by Quickbuck.. the easy solution would be to convince quickbuck to term this affiliate, and I for one would welcome his traffic to the official sites for the models he has these .org & .net sites for. I am open for any other suggestion... the DMCA approach from what I understand is simply a waste of time...

halfpint · 10-07-2007, 04:29 PM

wow Quickbuck is an XBIZ 2007 nominee

MaDalton · 10-07-2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

"It is possible that the scrupulously honest man may not grow rich so fast as the unscrupulous and dishonest one; but the success will be of a truer kind, earned without fraud or injustice. And even though a man should for a time be unsuccessful, stil?

Samuel Smiles

quoted for truth...

i say Karma is a bitch, maybe not today, maybe not tommorrow, but someday...

RawAlex · 10-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazing

There is no mistake in your findings... the guy who runs all those .net & .org sites of 100's of pornstar and sologirl sites is sending the traffic directly to xxxpass.com which is own and operated by Quickbuck.. the easy solution would be to convince quickbuck to term this affiliate, and I for one would welcome his traffic to the official sites for the models he has these .org & .net sites for. I am open for any other suggestion... the DMCA approach from what I understand is simply a waste of time...

DCMA is not a waste of time - but you have to aim correctly.

1) DMCA the domain owner. This may be useless, but you have to do it, otherwise everything else is meaningless. If the mail in undeliverable, all the better.

2) DMCA the domain host. Again, the mail may or may not be undeliverable, and it may be the same person as step 1. This is an important base to touch none the less.

3) DMCA the IP block holder. This is often different from the host, and sometimes is slightly more successful.

4) DMCA Quick Buck. They are the ones currently monetarizing the traffic, and as such, have both contact with the affiliate in question and the control over the income.

5) DMCA Google and Yahoo. Getting these sites out of the SERPs will greatly reduce the amount of traffic they get. It might not stop the violation entirely, but it will remove the profitability. Make sure that you indicate on your DMCA that you have been told that this owner has many other similar sites of similar design cross linked. Google might squish them all with enough complaints.

6) DMCA Quick Buck's processing company. Again, they have a hand in turning this theft into money, and they have the ability to either make it stop or at least lower it's value to the point that it stops.

If you are truly bored and want to have some fun, DMCA notify Visa in the zone that is processing for these sites. Remember, the implication of all of these sites is that you will find these stars (and potentially this content) inside xxxpass, so there is potential that there is content used without permission / 2257 non-compliant inside the site. Therefore, when in doubt...

Have fun. Remember to send all the mail registered or by courrier requesting signature. Google has a special fax number to send this stuff to, search around on their site to get it.

StarkReality · 10-07-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

DCMA is not a waste of time - but you have to aim correctly.

1) DMCA the domain owner. This may be useless, but you have to do it, otherwise everything else is meaningless. If the mail in undeliverable, all the better.

2) DMCA the domain host. Again, the mail may or may not be undeliverable, and it may be the same person as step 1. This is an important base to touch none the less.

3) DMCA the IP block holder. This is often different from the host, and sometimes is slightly more successful.

4) DMCA Quick Buck. They are the ones currently monetarizing the traffic, and as such, have both contact with the affiliate in question and the control over the income.

5) DMCA Google and Yahoo. Getting these sites out of the SERPs will greatly reduce the amount of traffic they get. It might not stop the violation entirely, but it will remove the profitability. Make sure that you indicate on your DMCA that you have been told that this owner has many other similar sites of similar design cross linked. Google might squish them all with enough complaints.

6) DMCA Quick Buck's processing company. Again, they have a hand in turning this theft into money, and they have the ability to either make it stop or at least lower it's value to the point that it stops.

If you are truly bored and want to have some fun, DMCA notify Visa in the zone that is processing for these sites. Remember, the implication of all of these sites is that you will find these stars (and potentially this content) inside xxxpass, so there is potential that there is content used without permission / 2257 non-compliant inside the site. Therefore, when in doubt...

Have fun. Remember to send all the mail registered or by courrier requesting signature. Google has a special fax number to send this stuff to, search around on their site to get it.

Great suggestions, the sad fact is that the content owners are somehow often the last ones finding out about the violations and many are tired to act since the work and money involved to send those DMCAs, the time it takes till something happens, the problems arising with domain anonymity, bogus whois data, etc. often make them ignore those violations as long as they don't see any serious change in their stats....

RawAlex · 10-07-2007, 05:26 PM

The real key at this point is getting with google and yahoo. They have enormous power to remove the profitability of these ventures, making the thieving pretty much worthless. These sites exist only to snap up search engine traffic and profit from the stolen content.

I think that the owners of Quick Buck run the risk of being contributory infringers if they don't take action to reign in their "rogue affiliate" or at least stop them from making money with this stolen material.

Blazing · 10-07-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

DCMA is not a waste of time - but you have to aim correctly.

1) DMCA the domain owner. This may be useless, but you have to do it, otherwise everything else is meaningless. If the mail in undeliverable, all the better.

2) DMCA the domain host. Again, the mail may or may not be undeliverable, and it may be the same person as step 1. This is an important base to touch none the less.

3) DMCA the IP block holder. This is often different from the host, and sometimes is slightly more successful.

4) DMCA Quick Buck. They are the ones currently monetarizing the traffic, and as such, have both contact with the affiliate in question and the control over the income.

5) DMCA Google and Yahoo. Getting these sites out of the SERPs will greatly reduce the amount of traffic they get. It might not stop the violation entirely, but it will remove the profitability. Make sure that you indicate on your DMCA that you have been told that this owner has many other similar sites of similar design cross linked. Google might squish them all with enough complaints.

6) DMCA Quick Buck's processing company. Again, they have a hand in turning this theft into money, and they have the ability to either make it stop or at least lower it's value to the point that it stops.

If you are truly bored and want to have some fun, DMCA notify Visa in the zone that is processing for these sites. Remember, the implication of all of these sites is that you will find these stars (and potentially this content) inside xxxpass, so there is potential that there is content used without permission / 2257 non-compliant inside the site. Therefore, when in doubt...

Have fun. Remember to send all the mail registered or by courrier requesting signature. Google has a special fax number to send this stuff to, search around on their site to get it.

Alex, Thanks for your time with detailing this process out, I hope to find a few other site owners like myself who is affected by this guy to help out in the process... I would haveto admit this seems like a very timely and perhaps expensive process... however, i am fully aware of the long term rewards in shutting him down... thanks again...

RawAlex · 10-07-2007, 08:22 PM

Blazing, actually, once you have the addresses in hand, it is exactly the same letter to each, with one change to say "you are the host" "you are the IP block operator" "you are paying these people" "you are listing these sites". Take them all in a pile, and mail them off in one shot.

The google one you can fax, and they are apparently pretty good with these things.

After Shock Media · 10-07-2007, 08:32 PM

I really did not expect to see the rest of my question answered, specially after it was just called strange by them.

JustDaveXxx · 10-07-2007, 09:40 PM

Wow.. this is what i get to look forward to when i launch my new cash programs.. I thought NHB and Jui-jitsu post boards were bad!!

I'm nice and promise not to fuck anybody over... EVER!!..lol

MUCH RESPECT TO ALL..

Quick Buck · 10-07-2007, 09:49 PM

I'm not going to quote myself but I gave you my contact information I think 3 times now in this thread.

If you choose not to use it then really it's your own issue.

Again for the peanut gallery.. I have now told you how to contact me about this issue several times and you simply refuse to follow my very clear instructions.

I have also told you now several times that GFY is not our support board and that no matter how many times you post about something on GFY, it will not receive *support* from us.

Seriously.

RawAlex · 10-07-2007, 11:00 PM

...and you have read the posts serveral times and choose to ignore them.

You don't make much sense.

crockett · 10-08-2007, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

We notified the affiliate that we were banning their account.

I don't know if they are going to keep promoting that way or not. Not my business. I would guess they are just busy finding another sponsor.

You must be the first affiliate program in history to actually notify the affiliate that you are terming their account for cheating. You guys really are stand up guys..

1+1=2

babydred · 10-08-2007, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

i can say this proudly

see mother fucking sig

50 bucks per. what are you, stupid?

How much of that has the Zango popover stolen...imagine the amount WITHOUT Zango's "help".

gooddomains · 10-08-2007, 05:35 AM

great statement

Quick Buck · 10-08-2007, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

You must be the first affiliate program in history to actually notify the affiliate that you are terming their account for cheating. You guys really are stand up guys..

1+1=2

just more proof that most people on gfy haven't got the first clue about REAL business.

when you sign up to quickbuck you are entering into a contract with us....

Quote:

20. The term of this Agreement will begin upon our acceptance of your application to join the Program, and will end when terminated by either party. Either you or we may terminate this Agreement at any time, with or without cause, by giving the other party notice of termination. Notice sent to your email address (as listed in our records) is considered sufficient notice of termination of the Agreement...........

see, when we cancel an account, we actually notify the affiliate.. otherwise we didnt TERMINATE THE CONTRACT you dimwit.

Just because you don't like somebody's activities doesn't mean i'm going to breach my contract with them.

ServerGenius · 10-08-2007, 06:47 AM

Quickbuck: I'm in favor of your arguments regarding all this I really do........I just
have to say that really I'm impressed with your "make friends, quick" skills.....
very entertaining............continue

RawAlex · 10-08-2007, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

You must be the first affiliate program in history to actually notify the affiliate that you are terming their account for cheating. You guys really are stand up guys..

1+1=2

Yeah, well, notification is easy... imagine something like this: "Hey tony, the guys on GFY spotted our zango shit, so I am going to have to turn off that account so it looks good. Contact Zango and get the links pulled so we don't waste any money!"

Quick Buck · 10-08-2007, 08:40 AM

and the fact that an ad is STILL popping up to this very moment with an "account terminated" page is what gave you that deep insight alex?

seriously, how can you possibly make any money spending THIS much time stalking me? my excuse is that I've got a team of 8 people working while i'm goofing off here bantering with idiots.

RawAlex · 10-08-2007, 09:26 AM

It doesn't take any time to "stalk" you... why would anyone bother? I don't have zango installed (why anyone would want to have spyware on their system is beyond me) so I can't check. But it was reported earlier in the thread that the popup was gone, so there you go.

However, one of your "rogue affiliates" is screwing a ton of people over and you don't seem to be in a rush to address the issue. Like this one: http://www.evelynlin.net

Anyway, I am sure you will get around to addressing this problem one of these days. You might want to "talk" to this "rogue" as well.

BradM · 10-08-2007, 09:45 AM

Quickbuck: Why bother replying? Just a waste of your time.

crockett · 10-08-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Yeah, well, notification is easy... imagine something like this: "Hey tony, the guys on GFY spotted our zango shit, so I am going to have to turn off that account so it looks good. Contact Zango and get the links pulled so we don't waste any money!"

Or it could go like... Hey guys hurry up and disable our in house account ID used on the zango adds. Then go disable the zango adds so we don't waste any money, we'll have to figure out what keywords to buy next.

pr0 · 10-08-2007, 10:00 AM

yea hit me up about your celeb shit wisemen

Brad Mitchell · 10-08-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

I'm not going to quote myself but I gave you my contact information I think 3 times now in this thread.

If you choose not to use it then really it's your own issue.

Again for the peanut gallery.. I have now told you how to contact me about this issue several times and you simply refuse to follow my very clear instructions.

I have also told you now several times that GFY is not our support board and that no matter how many times you post about something on GFY, it will not receive *support* from us.

Seriously.

I hate to agree with the QuickBuck folks but he's got a point here.. Having had the same issue in threads here myself, I understand what he's saying and why he's saying it.

Brad

Klen · 10-08-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Quickbuck: Why bother replying? Just a waste of your time.

Somebody need to be fireman.

RawAlex · 10-08-2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I hate to agree with the QuickBuck folks but he's got a point here.. Having had the same issue in threads here myself, I understand what he's saying and why he's saying it.

Brad

Brad, with due respect, you provide support to your customers.

I am not a Quick Buck webmaster or client. I am not asking them for "support", I am asking them to look at an issue that is pretty darn clear and obvious. They read it, they know about it, but then they get all officious about "send an email to our support if you want us to pay attention".

To me, that sounds like a company turning a blind eye to an obvious issue, likely because this guys is providing a large part of their business.

Your situation as a host is nothing like a program.

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will76 · 10-08-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

wow Quickbuck is an XBIZ 2007 nominee

lol not looking good for 2008

will76 · 10-08-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

and the fact that an ad is STILL popping up to this very moment with an "account terminated" page is what gave you that deep insight alex?

seriously, how can you possibly make any money spending THIS much time stalking me? my excuse is that I've got a team of 8 people working while i'm goofing off here bantering with idiots.

wait so the zango pop up over ccbill pages is now happening again with an account terminated by quickbuck.

WTF? you said you contacted the "affiliate" and told him you would be banning him. Some one said then ALL zango pop ups over ccbill pages stopped all together. All in the matter of mins from a post here saying that quick buck was poping over ccbill signup pages. Now you are saying that the pop up over ccbill signup pages is still happening, but it is saying account terminated ? Why would the guy you notifed start sending traffic again after you told him you were banning his account.

is this correct ??

will76 · 10-08-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

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69.50.130.127
Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registrar: ENOM, INC.

ns1.nationalnet.com
ns2.nationalnet.com

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Domain Name: xxxpass.com
69.50.130.127
Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registrar: ENOM, INC.

ns1.nationalnet.com
ns2.nationalnet.com

Brad Mitchell · 10-09-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Brad, with due respect, you provide support to your customers.

I am not a Quick Buck webmaster or client. I am not asking them for "support", I am asking them to look at an issue that is pretty darn clear and obvious. They read it, they know about it, but then they get all officious about "send an email to our support if you want us to pay attention".

To me, that sounds like a company turning a blind eye to an obvious issue, likely because this guys is providing a large part of their business.

Your situation as a host is nothing like a program.

I have to be honest.. I didn't read the whole thread, just a few posts and the one QuickBuck posted to. I don't want to be misunderstood, I dislike Hooper and have made that clear lots of times. I believe that his business ethics leave substantial amounts to be desired based on what I have observed.

Brad

RawAlex · 10-09-2007, 03:55 PM

Brad, I think that is something many people can agree to. I think you can also agree that if you saw a post on here "Oh my god all of Mojohost is down" you won't post back "I can't look into the problem until you email me about it". I know this isn't your support board, but I also know you are smarter than to play dumb on an issue like this.

Quick Buck people are doing the proverbial "Fiddle while Rome burns".

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-09-2007, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazing

<... then takes you to ...>

https://ssl.eroticagateway.com/signu...teway=INTERNAL

http://wow.eroticagateway.com/signup...TIw&tour=tour2
https://ssl.eroticagateway.com/signu...teway=INTERNAL

Domain Name: eroticagateway.com
69.50.130.127
Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registrar: ENOM, INC.

ns1.nationalnet.com
ns2.nationalnet.com

...................................
Domain Name: xxxpass.com
69.50.130.127
Status: clientTransferProhibited

Registrar: ENOM, INC.

ns1.nationalnet.com
ns2.nationalnet.com

Ohhhh Snap

Nice find!

CarolCox · 10-10-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Hey Quick Buck,how about you address the issues of sites like this:

http://www.anjalikara.org/

Packed full of content stolen from other programs and cropped to lose the logos, and used entirely to promote your program?

Any ideas?

Send me some proof that it's not content that the guy bought and i'll take action on it. To me it looks like somebody who is building galleries.

I don't ban affiliates based on heresay.... and no... 1000 posts of heresay does not make it any more real.

This is Danny Cox, using Carol's account.

I'm a bit late with this because I really don't hang around this place and just found out about this thread.

I have contacted Quickbucks on three (3) different occasions about the problem with the carolcox.org website that is using stolen content and sending traffic into xxxpass.com. Since the affiliate in question was going against the T&C's, I had fully assumed that my notification would be taken seriously and acted upon accordingly. I sent proof that we owned all content and that their affiliate was in both Trademark and copyright violation. Needless to say, I was just ignored and never received a response back.

I did try to handle this privately, but since Quickbucks deemed to ignore this issue I must now ask publicly, will you take action?

Roald · 10-10-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

This is Danny Cox, using Carol's account.

I'm a bit late with this because I really don't hang around this place and just found out about this thread.

I have contacted Quickbucks on three (3) different occasions about the problem with the carolcox.org website that is using stolen content and sending traffic into xxxpass.com. Since the affiliate in question was going against the T&C's, I had fully assumed that my notification would be taken seriously and acted upon accordingly. I sent proof that we owned all content and that their affiliate was in both Trademark and copyright violation. Needless to say, I was just ignored and never received a response back.

I did try to handle this privately, but since Quickbucks deemed to ignore this issue I must now ask publicly, will you take action?

Oh boy oh boy oh boy, it just goes on and on

scoreman · 10-11-2007, 07:56 AM

You have stated that 100% of your traffic comes from affiliates. The natural conclusion then is that your company places great emphasis on studying the affiliates and working with them to build your business. This "rogue" affiliate was sending quite a bit of business and yet he/she/<you?> would not have been able to demonstrate any sort of traffic in comparison to the sales. NATs provides a number of ways that you would have seen the sales volume and it would have shown immediately that this person was up to something. 50 joins on zero traffic tends to stand out doesn't it? or was it 500 or 5000 joins on zero traffic?

You guys come on here with huge brassy balls basically telling everyone to fuck off and that this is a rogue webmaster. Any program owner that runs an affiliate program smells bullshit in your explanation. Combine this with the fact that you run $50 free trials, it seems to virtually impossible that you were not scrutinizing those affiliates sending joins that did not have traffic to explain those sales. The exact same stats could also indicate an affiliate carding joins to your program, and I fail to see how you would not have measures in place to protect against that, especially since you are running your own merchant accounts. So on the one hand you can catch fraud like someone running joins from a credit card database and proxies, but you cannot catch the "rogue" affiliate who runs joins via a Zango redirect until the shit hits the fan on the message boards?

You guys are full of shit crooks.

RawAlex · 10-11-2007, 07:58 AM

Usually the guys with the biggest, brassest balls are their own "rogue affiliates". If someone has balls so big, why share the money with anyone else?

TeenCat · 10-11-2007, 07:59 AM

i read one line and omg, quick buck dont care about people here. thank you

CarolCox · 10-15-2007, 06:05 PM

An update on the "carolcox.org" scam website run by the "Mexican".

We filed a DMCA complaint and a Trademark infringement complaint with the prime hosting company at http://www.theplanet.com. They finally acted on it, and removed the illegal content that was up. I did notify them that all the other pages were also in infringement, but I guess they are waiting on the individual site owners to file a DMCA. So if you have one of the noted websites, I would recommend that you also file a DMCA as ThePlanet.com will act on it.

The interesting thing here is that although the content has been removed, when you go to http://www.carolcox.org a join page for xxxpass.com is still there. I do find in amazing, and quite unsettling, that QuickBucks allows this to continue. They obviously are running all the sites in question as anyone else would quickly act and remove the offending affiliate (if there indeed is one). At this point, they are showing that they either own the sites, or are in full collaboration with it. There really is no other explanation....although I would love to hear one from a QuickBucks representative.

will76 · 10-15-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

just more proof that most people on gfy haven't got the first clue about REAL business.

when you sign up to quickbuck you are entering into a contract with us....

see, when we cancel an account, we actually notify the affiliate.. otherwise we didnt TERMINATE THE CONTRACT you dimwit.

Just because you don't like somebody's activities doesn't mean i'm going to breach my contract with them.

I believe most contracts can be terminated without notice especially if the affiliate is breaking your TOS.

it all depends on how you word your own contract, i don't think most contracts are worded the way yours is.

will76 · 10-15-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

This is Danny Cox, using Carol's account.

I'm a bit late with this because I really don't hang around this place and just found out about this thread.

I have contacted Quickbucks on three (3) different occasions about the problem with the carolcox.org website that is using stolen content and sending traffic into xxxpass.com. Since the affiliate in question was going against the T&C's, I had fully assumed that my notification would be taken seriously and acted upon accordingly. I sent proof that we owned all content and that their affiliate was in both Trademark and copyright violation. Needless to say, I was just ignored and never received a response back.

I did try to handle this privately, but since Quickbucks deemed to ignore this issue I must now ask publicly, will you take action?

and QuickBuck says GFY is not their support forum, to contact them directly if you need support...

How many times Danny ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

I have contacted Quickbucks on three (3) different occasions

How many times?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

I have contacted Quickbucks on three (3) different occasions

Apparently contacting them directly doesnt work either.

pocketkangaroo · 10-15-2007, 06:54 PM

The guys at Quickbuck squatted on a lot of domains in the past. Even this forum was the target of their squatting. It's not a stretch to believe they would be squatting on these domains and doing something like this.

Spike D · 10-15-2007, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

An update on the "carolcox.org" scam website run by the "Mexican".

We filed a DMCA complaint and a Trademark infringement complaint with the prime hosting company at http://www.theplanet.com. They finally acted on it, and removed the illegal content that was up. I did notify them that all the other pages were also in infringement, but I guess they are waiting on the individual site owners to file a DMCA. So if you have one of the noted websites, I would recommend that you also file a DMCA as ThePlanet.com will act on it.

The interesting thing here is that although the content has been removed, when you go to http://www.carolcox.org a join page for xxxpass.com is still there. I do find in amazing, and quite unsettling, that QuickBucks allows this to continue. They obviously are running all the sites in question as anyone else would quickly act and remove the offending affiliate (if there indeed is one). At this point, they are showing that they either own the sites, or are in full collaboration with it. There really is no other explanation....although I would love to hear one from a QuickBucks representative.

Bump for some good info for those with content being illegally used. Thanks Danny...

RawAlex · 10-15-2007, 08:55 PM

I noticed that today too Danny.

One other thing I noticed is the misappropriation of the names and false advertising. Example, this site:

CourtneyCummz.org

if you click a couple of pictures, you get the xxxpass signup, and the page title is "Courtney Cummz 100% Free".

Now, I have to ask: Does quick buck have any legal Courtney Cummz content? Or for that matter, do they have "Carol Cox Web Site, Pictures, Videos, Downloads, News and Links"?

Quick Buck, you guys need to get away from this stuff fast. From where I sit, much of that stuff looks not only actionable, but potential fodder for FTC.

Brad Mitchell · 10-15-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolCox

An update on the "carolcox.org" scam website run by the "Mexican".

We filed a DMCA complaint and a Trademark infringement complaint with the prime hosting company at http://www.theplanet.com. They finally acted on it, and removed the illegal content that was up. I did notify them that all the other pages were also in infringement, but I guess they are waiting on the individual site owners to file a DMCA. So if you have one of the noted websites, I would recommend that you also file a DMCA as ThePlanet.com will act on it.

The interesting thing here is that although the content has been removed, when you go to http://www.carolcox.org a join page for xxxpass.com is still there. I do find in amazing, and quite unsettling, that QuickBucks allows this to continue. They obviously are running all the sites in question as anyone else would quickly act and remove the offending affiliate (if there indeed is one). At this point, they are showing that they either own the sites, or are in full collaboration with it. There really is no other explanation....although I would love to hear one from a QuickBucks representative.

Hi Danny

I hope you are well! I know we don't talk that often but as one of my valued clients I'm happy to pony up my legal counsel free of charge for any issues that you're finding online that are affecting your business. It's just a matter of principle... and another benefit of choosing MojoHost as your home for these past several years. Thank you for your patronage

Cheers,

Brad

pocketkangaroo · 10-16-2007, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hi Danny

I hope you are well! I know we don't talk that often but as one of my valued clients I'm happy to pony up my legal counsel free of charge for any issues that you're finding online that are affecting your business. It's just a matter of principle... and another benefit of choosing MojoHost as your home for these past several years. Thank you for your patronage

Cheers,

Brad

That is pretty awesome. We're actually in the market for a couple servers starting next month and will put you at the top of the list.

»Rob Content« · 10-16-2007, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

That is pretty awesome. We're actually in the market for a couple servers starting next month and will put you at the top of the list.

Brad is one of the best, and he sticks to his ethics. Anytime I have spoken to him it's been nothing but the best answers.

You'd be making a good move.

10-07-2007, 04:29 PM	#154
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10-07-2007, 08:32 PM	#161
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10-07-2007, 09:40 PM	#162
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10-07-2007, 09:49 PM	#163
Quick Buck Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Free-Trials.......... Weekly-Payouts..... 100+Sites Posts: 1,026	I'm not going to quote myself but I gave you my contact information I think 3 times now in this thread. If you choose not to use it then really it's your own issue. Again for the peanut gallery.. I have now told you how to contact me about this issue several times and you simply refuse to follow my very clear instructions. I have also told you now several times that GFY is not our support board and that no matter how many times you post about something on GFY, it will not receive support from us. Seriously. __________________ $50 FREE TRIALS! Every Day til 2008!!! Only at QuickBuck

10-08-2007, 06:47 AM	#169
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10-07-2007, 05:26 PM	#158
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	The real key at this point is getting with google and yahoo. They have enormous power to remove the profitability of these ventures, making the thieving pretty much worthless. These sites exist only to snap up search engine traffic and profit from the stolen content. I think that the owners of Quick Buck run the risk of being contributory infringers if they don't take action to reign in their "rogue affiliate" or at least stop them from making money with this stolen material.

10-07-2007, 08:22 PM	#160
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Blazing, actually, once you have the addresses in hand, it is exactly the same letter to each, with one change to say "you are the host" "you are the IP block operator" "you are paying these people" "you are listing these sites". Take them all in a pile, and mail them off in one shot. The google one you can fax, and they are apparently pretty good with these things.

10-07-2007, 11:00 PM	#164
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	...and you have read the posts serveral times and choose to ignore them. You don't make much sense.

10-08-2007, 05:35 AM	#167
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10-08-2007, 08:40 AM	#171
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10-08-2007, 09:26 AM	#172
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	It doesn't take any time to "stalk" you... why would anyone bother? I don't have zango installed (why anyone would want to have spyware on their system is beyond me) so I can't check. But it was reported earlier in the thread that the popup was gone, so there you go. However, one of your "rogue affiliates" is screwing a ton of people over and you don't seem to be in a rush to address the issue. Like this one: http://www.evelynlin.net Anyway, I am sure you will get around to addressing this problem one of these days. You might want to "talk" to this "rogue" as well.

10-08-2007, 09:45 AM	#173
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10-08-2007, 10:00 AM	#175
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10-08-2007, 01:38 PM	#179
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10-09-2007, 01:18 PM	#183
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10-09-2007, 03:55 PM	#185
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Brad, I think that is something many people can agree to. I think you can also agree that if you saw a post on here "Oh my god all of Mojohost is down" you won't post back "I can't look into the problem until you email me about it". I know this isn't your support board, but I also know you are smarter than to play dumb on an issue like this. Quick Buck people are doing the proverbial "Fiddle while Rome burns".

10-11-2007, 07:56 AM	#189
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	You have stated that 100% of your traffic comes from affiliates. The natural conclusion then is that your company places great emphasis on studying the affiliates and working with them to build your business. This "rogue" affiliate was sending quite a bit of business and yet he/she/<you?> would not have been able to demonstrate any sort of traffic in comparison to the sales. NATs provides a number of ways that you would have seen the sales volume and it would have shown immediately that this person was up to something. 50 joins on zero traffic tends to stand out doesn't it? or was it 500 or 5000 joins on zero traffic? You guys come on here with huge brassy balls basically telling everyone to fuck off and that this is a rogue webmaster. Any program owner that runs an affiliate program smells bullshit in your explanation. Combine this with the fact that you run $50 free trials, it seems to virtually impossible that you were not scrutinizing those affiliates sending joins that did not have traffic to explain those sales. The exact same stats could also indicate an affiliate carding joins to your program, and I fail to see how you would not have measures in place to protect against that, especially since you are running your own merchant accounts. So on the one hand you can catch fraud like someone running joins from a credit card database and proxies, but you cannot catch the "rogue" affiliate who runs joins via a Zango redirect until the shit hits the fan on the message boards? You guys are full of shit crooks. __________________

10-11-2007, 07:58 AM	#190
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Usually the guys with the biggest, brassest balls are their own "rogue affiliates". If someone has balls so big, why share the money with anyone else?

10-11-2007, 07:59 AM	#191
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	i read one line and omg, quick buck dont care about people here. thank you __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

10-15-2007, 06:05 PM	#192
CarolCox The Original WebGirl! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Green Valley, ON, CA Posts: 325	An update on the "carolcox.org" scam website run by the "Mexican". We filed a DMCA complaint and a Trademark infringement complaint with the prime hosting company at http://www.theplanet.com. They finally acted on it, and removed the illegal content that was up. I did notify them that all the other pages were also in infringement, but I guess they are waiting on the individual site owners to file a DMCA. So if you have one of the noted websites, I would recommend that you also file a DMCA as ThePlanet.com will act on it. The interesting thing here is that although the content has been removed, when you go to http://www.carolcox.org a join page for xxxpass.com is still there. I do find in amazing, and quite unsettling, that QuickBucks allows this to continue. They obviously are running all the sites in question as anyone else would quickly act and remove the offending affiliate (if there indeed is one). At this point, they are showing that they either own the sites, or are in full collaboration with it. There really is no other explanation....although I would love to hear one from a QuickBucks representative.

10-15-2007, 06:54 PM	#195
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	The guys at Quickbuck squatted on a lot of domains in the past. Even this forum was the target of their squatting. It's not a stretch to believe they would be squatting on these domains and doing something like this.

10-15-2007, 08:55 PM	#197
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	I noticed that today too Danny. One other thing I noticed is the misappropriation of the names and false advertising. Example, this site: CourtneyCummz.org if you click a couple of pictures, you get the xxxpass signup, and the page title is "Courtney Cummz 100% Free". Now, I have to ask: Does quick buck have any legal Courtney Cummz content? Or for that matter, do they have "Carol Cox Web Site, Pictures, Videos, Downloads, News and Links"? Quick Buck, you guys need to get away from this stuff fast. From where I sit, much of that stuff looks not only actionable, but potential fodder for FTC.