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mikeyddddd · 06-19-2008, 09:11 PM

Hunnert Changes

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Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad

Video Secrets / Policy Change & Lifetime Payouts

In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life.

mailman · 06-19-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Am afraid you are too late....

Indeed....

JamesK · 06-19-2008, 10:03 PM

Glad you guys made the right decision!

F-U-Jimmy · 06-19-2008, 10:30 PM

My congratulations go to all the GFY members who stuck by Chrome. Had it not been for you guys i think the results would have been way different to the one in this thread. It goes to show what is possible if everyone sticks together drops the hate and egos and stick up for what's right, kudos to you guys

18teens · 06-19-2008, 10:42 PM

Congrats to Chrome for finally getting paid what he has had coming all along.

BluMedia · 06-19-2008, 10:43 PM

Video Secrets are a great bunch of guys. Kudos for taking care of this.

Mark

KillerK · 06-19-2008, 10:51 PM

congrats to VS for doing the right thing!

TheSenator · 06-19-2008, 10:54 PM

I told you that cooler heads would prevail.

We webmaster are many...when some does us wrong...we stick together.

18teens · 06-19-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BluMedia

Video Secrets are a great bunch of guys.

Yeah, right. First they fuck up by fucking an affiliate over and then they fuck up even worse by trying to cover it up.

Kiss their asses if you want. My opinion of VS hasn't changed a bit.

cyberpod · 06-19-2008, 11:10 PM

good move... glad to see something good came of this!

VeriSexy · 06-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Better late then never..

rml1608 · 06-19-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad

Over the past 8 days many of you were witness to a long and sometimes heated thread regarding our decision to suspend an affiliate account for lack of activity. Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.

The affiliate in question will receive any and all monies that were withheld for the 7 months his account was in suspension. In addition, he will continue to receive his commissions on a monthly basis as long as the customer he referred continues to make purchases; regardless of whether he sends another click.

We have posted an amendment to our Terms & Conditions clearly stating that we will not suspend an account for lack of promotional activity.

http://www.videosecrets.com/terms.php (Section 6.4)

It has been said that decisions are always correct when you make them, but they can stop being correct soon thereafter. In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life.

We hope that those of you who made some very out of line personal attacks in the other threads will think twice before doing that again. There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all.

Back to Business.

Brad Estes
Manager of Operations
Video Secretes

Not that there was another one, but smart move. Now I would suggest a serious PR campaign to get you out of the shitter. You have bright minds at that company, I'm sure you'll come up with something.

Make sure it is profound and felt industry wide - and this will all be behind you in 90 days

JenniDahling · 06-19-2008, 11:30 PM

Great form VS Media! Its always a win win situation when a sponsor does right by their affiliates!

bdld · 06-19-2008, 11:39 PM

too little too late.

onlymovies · 06-20-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.

blah blah blah (no offense jact!)

Look at all you people in this thread....LMAO....the politics here is just to funny.

VideoSecrets has been around WAAAYYYY to long to NOT know the game. The fact that they're veterans in this industry and a big company make's it even worst. They knew better, end of story. I mean, lifetime renewals is pure logic and not something that has to be taught to a company like Video Secrets. If they had to be taught or told that you can't just strip someones money away because they stopped sending traffic, well.....i don't buy it one bit. They're way to smart for that or they wouldn't still be around today.

But regardless, glad to see those who deserve their money, get it.

Oracle Porn · 06-20-2008, 12:28 AM

whoever is in charge of all this bullshit should get his ass fired
unbelievable....and too late too.

NETbilling · 06-20-2008, 12:44 AM

VS is an amazing company with a tremendous group of individuals running it. I have so much respect.

Oracle Porn · 06-20-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

VS is an amazing company with a tremendous group of individuals running it. I have so much respect.

bros in action

Vick! · 06-20-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv

That's awesome!

at that traffic chart.

hey payd2post, saw that whining on boards actually work? He is getting his money now.

Bow to the power of gfy ..

Turf · 06-20-2008, 01:51 AM

took you dumbass' long enough...

Far-L · 06-20-2008, 01:52 AM

How many folks in that thread, rather than descending to rabble rousing and hate mongering as a way to deal with the issue, actually picked up the phone or hit up VS to discuss the issue personally and professionally? Who took the time to try and figure out what was not being brought to the boards in order to truly figure out what the deal was and the reasons behind decisions?

In my experience, after being in the Acacia suit with VS for years, which btw VS and Homegrown were the first two companies that came together to form a defense group, I have only know VS to be one of the most ethical and upstanding companies around. While I may not have agreed with their decision on first glance, I took the time to hear them out and realize there was way more to the problem than anything presented on the boards. In the end, regardless of my opinion (which ain't worth

), I applaud their decision to review their actions and take the course that they have chosen. At the same time, I respect that they had to make difficult choices. Anyone that actually runs a real business knows that oftentime difficult and sometime unpopular considerations must be made.

In the end, both parties are happy with the resolution so what anyone thinks at this point is mute. VS was never "hurting" for biz and truth to tell i seriously doubt any of the affiliates that have been earning cash with them for years even considered dropping them.

Feel free to bash me for this opinion, I won't lose any sleep over it. I know at the end of the day that I didn't just join a lynch mob and I stood by my convictions and presented my views off the boards to the folks at VS in a calm and considerate fashion, respectful even in my criticisms.

To me, that was the professional way to handle it and I got the same in return. For that reason alone, like it or not - you don't have to agree, but I still trust them with our traffic.

Vick! · 06-20-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

But after links are removed, affiliates will stop going to videosecrets to check stats. Isn't it?

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

I told you that cooler heads would prevail.

you did. I remember .. lol

darksoul · 06-20-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

To me, that was the professional way to handle it and I got the same in return.

Do you want to talk about how professional "money for nothing" was ?

Tjeezers · 06-20-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

VS is an amazing company with a tremendous group of individuals running it. I have so much respect.

Tjeezers · 06-20-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

In the end, both parties are happy with the resolution so what anyone thinks at this point is mute. VS was never "hurting" for biz and truth to tell i seriously doubt any of the affiliates that have been earning cash with them for years even considered dropping them.

Its the other way arround, an affiliate who made many for years got dropped

Its webmaster against sponsor, and i deal with cams 10 years now, and i have never seen such an amateur move as what they did, a bullshit replay on line. I spoke to many cam sponsors who run for years, and they all laughed at the replay VS placed online.

This is not a win win situation at all, politic games were used to make this all go away. And when they read it on other boards, they knew they could not do anything else then placing this message.

On the other hand, i always knew VS had to give in, who has the longest breath here? A sponsor company, or a organized group of webmasters.

Phoenix · 06-20-2008, 03:33 AM

good stuff brad

fris · 06-20-2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

Its the other way arround, an affiliate who made many for years got dropped

Its webmaster against sponsor, and i deal with cams 10 years now, and i have never seen such an amateur move as what they did, a bullshit replay on line. I spoke to many cam sponsors who run for years, and they all laughed at the replay VS placed online.

This is not a win win situation at all, politic games were used to make this all go away. And when they read it on other boards, they knew they could not do anything else then placing this message.

On the other hand, i always knew VS had to give in, who has the longest breath here? A sponsor company, or a organized group of webmasters.

agreed, without chrome they wouldnt have banked $100k+, its him that gave the money to them.

MPGdevil · 06-20-2008, 05:44 AM

You only changed decision and paid up because of all the lost affiliates and things going downwards. This change was not done in regards to solve things with Chrome but only to save yourself when ship started to sink.

I hope people keep staying away from your program for a long time, but reading this thread it sounds like a lot here licks up your lame "excuse" and everything is back to normal.

As some already said.. "Too late and selfish".

I think this quote sums it up fine.

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Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad

In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets...

pornguy · 06-20-2008, 05:50 AM

That was a good move.

Gnus · 06-20-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil

You only changed decision and paid up because of all the lost affiliates and things going downwards. This change was not done in regards to solve things with Chrome but only to save yourself when ship started to sink.

I hope people keep staying away from your program for a long time, but reading this thread it sounds like a lot here licks up your lame "excuse" and everything is back to normal.

As some already said.. "Too late and selfish".

I think this quote sums it up fine.

Yep I would have to agree. Only reason they done the right thing is because the affiliates banded together to make them do the right thing. They won't being seeing any traffic from me.

Gary

MichaelP · 06-20-2008, 06:35 AM

Good Move guys... Glad to see things are back on track

Brad Gosse · 06-20-2008, 06:41 AM

VS is a great company that always does the right thing. I had no doubts.

Babaganoosh · 06-20-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

VS is an amazing company with a tremendous group of individuals running it. I have so much respect.

You've got a little something on your nose.

fastboy · 06-20-2008, 06:49 AM

Better late then never

Babaganoosh · 06-20-2008, 06:54 AM

This is a pretty good end result for everyone involved. I have some new-found respect for VS. The initial response to the GFY PR onslaught was rude, arrogant and completely inappropriate. That was almost as bad as suspending the account to begin with. The response was a well-written "fuck you, we can do whatever we want" addressed to everyone who took the time to read it.

I'll reluctantly send traffic to VS again. My advice: Hire a PR person to handle future responses.

Bossman · 06-20-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

Yep I would have to agree. Only reason they done the right thing is because the affiliates banded together to make them do the right thing. They won't being seeing any traffic from me.

What is the point of boycotting someone, if they are still boycotted after they change their ways? Sure you could try to run them out of town, but if that is the only future for programs doing misguided things, then they will never change, once they make their first (and hopefull last) bad decision.

Boycotting = good

No forgiveness = prolonging the problem

Dollarmansteve · 06-20-2008, 07:09 AM

Time spent basking in drama on gfy ~ ( 1 / webmaster earnings )

Shap · 06-20-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

Wow Ray i thought you were smarter than that. Alexa is very unreliable especially for short periods of time like you mentioned.

Second of all the majority of VideoSecrets big clients don't send to VideoSecrets.com

I said this from the beginning. VS is a good company. They've been around for a long time and will be around for a long time to come.

Imortyl Pussycat · 06-20-2008, 07:45 AM

congrats to both parties

ultra100 · 06-20-2008, 08:28 AM

Good decision.

~Ray · 06-20-2008, 08:42 AM

this was not an out of the blue error that rarely happens and can easily be forgiven. This was an attempted theft, foiled by the public outcry for simple, logical justice.

stealing from or lying to affiliates is the single worst thing a program can do.
pulling your traffic is the single worst thing you can do to them in return.

stop defending them for trying to steal an affiliates money. that's what they tried to do and were caught with their hand in Chrome's cookie jar

again, this wasn't a random technical error. it was thought out deliberate theft. they were caught and FORCED to return the money.

I wonder if this would have happend in a stronger economy.

candyflip · 06-20-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

VS is a great company that always does the right thing. I had no doubts.

You have some poopy dangling from the tip of your nose. You might want to wipe that off.

crockett · 06-20-2008, 08:48 AM

Love it.. first they take the screw the affiliate approach.

Then it's the get the post deleted approach..

Finally after neither works they do what should have been done in the first place..

What was the master card commercial.... "priceless"

Now of course they are "stand up guys and a top notch company..

BAKO · 06-20-2008, 08:56 AM

Very smart move

candyflip · 06-20-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Bako

Very smart move

Did they really have any other choice? Look at all the "Bros" coming out to tell them what a great job they did.

TDF · 06-20-2008, 09:10 AM

stealing is is not stealing unless it happens to you...this industry is such short minded

Mister E · 06-20-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sands

I understand your point, but I'm skeptical. I'm very, very skeptical. I really don't want to continue jabbing VS since they did the right thing, but I'm curious about how long it took them to create that official response to this thread where they tried to justify their tactics by placing the blame on the affiliate in question, by characterizing him as a freeloader who's undeserving of continued revshare from a "single click", as a belligerent man who berated VS employees after he was told he wouldn't receive the money he's owed.

Yes, what a positive outcome indeed for VS... being patted on the back for doing what they should have done in the first place. Excuse me while I break out the champagne and hookers.

Quite frankly, the real positive outcome from this was a group of united affiliates pushing for a compatriot. Everyone talks about how organizing individuals in this industry is like herding cats. Looks like a few cats were herded.

Good move on VS's part, better late than never, rah rah rah, enjoy the kudos fellas.

Very well stated

shunga · 06-20-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad

There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all.

The problem was both sides were laid out pretty clearly; you made a very poor decision, then made it worse with your responses. It shouldn't have taken what it did to make you see the light, but hopefully lessons have been learned.

Dirty F · 06-20-2008, 09:28 AM

So it took you 10 pages of people saying they will pull their links to pay this guy out. Fucking scumbag piece of shit. And everyone who suddenly say "well done bro's" can suck my nutballs too. Its clear they are fucking scumbags and simply wanted to keep that guys money. Now that they found out theyre losing way more from the pulled links they suddenly play the good guys. Shit makes me sick.

Dirty F · 06-20-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

VS is a great company that always does the right thing. I had no doubts.

People like you make me even sicker. No wonder you are good friends with DH. God what a pathetic fucking life you must have kissing ass wherever you can for business. Sickening. You and all your bro buddies and DH. Dumb fuck. You just 100% showed what a dumb fucking simpleton you are. I hope someone shits in your face when youre licking ass again. Idiot.

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06-19-2008, 11:39 PM	#114
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06-20-2008, 01:52 AM	#121
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06-20-2008, 09:28 AM	#149
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So it took you 10 pages of people saying they will pull their links to pay this guy out. Fucking scumbag piece of shit. And everyone who suddenly say "well done bro's" can suck my nutballs too. Its clear they are fucking scumbags and simply wanted to keep that guys money. Now that they found out theyre losing way more from the pulled links they suddenly play the good guys. Shit makes me sick.