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Intruder · 06-19-2008, 04:07 PM

You need to invest in some legal advice since your moral compass is clearly lacking.

Fetish Videos · 06-19-2008, 04:07 PM

Positive outcome is positive outcome..congrats to chrome and kudos to videosecrets for coming around and doing the right thing.

One thing, Brad - "While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion" is pretty lame. The guy didn't quit YOU he quit the business altogether. All of your affiliates can NEVER leave the biz? And where is the love for HIM sending YOU the thousands of dollars a month biz that you got? This whole affiliate marketing concept is a two-way street.

Anyway, the important thing is you stepped up - which was likely very hard to do considering the public beating, so VS deserves positive comments now just like they deserved the negative ones before. Credit where due, etc..

jakethedog · 06-19-2008, 04:09 PM

well worded .. polite and to the point .... I truly believe this was exactly the right thing of chrome to do by originally posting it in GFY .. thats is why webmaster forums were created ..talk about what products are selling who is/was shaving ..programs that are having issues and even possibly how to help out another person we do business with ..and of course public discussion on what ever else we do in this business .. the end result will be good for both parties concerned ....Decent call VS now its settled it will be all but forgotten in a week .. and of course .. .. BEERS ON CHROME..!!! cheers ..

thehand · 06-19-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IntenseJerry

JFK, I totally agree.

Looking forward to seeing Tim and Eddie in Vegas, you guys rock! J

Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself

fuzebox · 06-19-2008, 04:14 PM

As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

CurrentlySober · 06-19-2008, 04:14 PM

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kenny · 06-19-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad

Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.

See this is what I don't get.

You people are the only people who seem to think this way. It's incorrect in both logic and practice.

You're sending the affiliate thousands of dollars a month because he sent you a customer that is spending thousands of dollars a month. It's a commissioned based partnership for the duration of the active customer.

Thats the whole idea behind lifetime revshare.

There should't be a "blackmail" clause forcing an affilate to continue sending traffic in order to get paid for commissions already earned.

You marketed your program to webmasters as "lifetime revshare". I've consluted with all the revshare based programs that send me money and they have all confirmed that "lifetime" means the life of the active consumer regardless of traffic that I may or may not send in the future.

With that I'm happy to see that VS has decided to honor it's side of the bargain.

kenny · 06-19-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

I agree.

You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.

IntenseJerry · 06-19-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehand

Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself

We will have to get a golf foursome together in LA, I think NetBilling Mitch is down, Definately in Vegas.

Nice avatar, it's rough being you...

... J

stickyfingerz · 06-19-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny

I agree.

You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.

Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com

Serge Litehead · 06-19-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

It's true, although all joins go through billing.vs.com and there has been a decline as well according to Alexa.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-19-2008, 04:28 PM

Congrats to the winners!

Socks · 06-19-2008, 04:30 PM

You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

kenny · 06-19-2008, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com

We'll have to wait a few days to see if alexa reflects anything.

1) It's currently reflecting up to June 15th

2) Alexa isn't very accurate

IntenseJerry · 06-19-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

Good job, that is impressive...

B O B · 06-19-2008, 04:36 PM

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-19-2008, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

Yes

On the business side I do way better, I try not to be the guy I am on the boards and try and keep everything professional

Ask around I am not always an asshole

I help where I can.

marketsmart · 06-19-2008, 04:42 PM

i am glad vs finally did the right thing... it would have been nice to apologize to chrome for some of the remarks, but at least he got his money...

in an industry that has so much backstabbing, stealing, etc.. its nice to see people come together to do something positive for someone else..

webmasterchecks · 06-19-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

you have got to be fucking kidding me

Hollywood Horwitz · 06-19-2008, 04:53 PM

good to see a peaceful outcome and its all been resolved.

jcsike · 06-19-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

that very well may have been a fatal decision for VS

candyflip · 06-19-2008, 05:11 PM

Way to backpeddle. That traffic drop had to hurt.

I love seeing all the ass-kissers come out now too.

After Shock Media · 06-19-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv

That's awesome!

Oh seriously fuck you ya little flip flopping bleeding hemroid on the ass of the industry.

XPays · 06-19-2008, 05:47 PM

I trust Greg and Chuck and Brad and the whole team at VS.

A positive move would be to invite all of you to the mansion in December. Hopefully, I will see you there.

fris · 06-19-2008, 05:51 PM

nice move, but it shouldnt have come to this

dav3 · 06-19-2008, 06:06 PM

That's really awesome of VS!

Nice!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-19-2008, 07:13 PM

Nice to see a positive resolution to all of this...

ADG

Pornopat · 06-19-2008, 07:18 PM

Congrats on doing the right thing.

Darkhorse · 06-19-2008, 07:23 PM

lol @ everyone who was bagging them out changing there minds so quickly..... Fact is if this guy didn't bring it to gfy he would of been told to fuck off......

They would of changed nothing and we wouldn't of been the wiser....

LeRoy · 06-19-2008, 07:24 PM

This is good news.

xNetworx · 06-19-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chauncy

way to step up and do the right thing A+ move

After Shock Media · 06-19-2008, 07:33 PM

I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.

Brujah · 06-19-2008, 07:42 PM

Whatever the reason, it's the right move and I'm glad they didn't let ego's or anything get in the way. Good thing to hear, from Brad and from VS.

421Fill · 06-19-2008, 07:44 PM

gotta say this isn't what I expected when the thread got locked or deleted or moved or whatever happened to it.

Gnus · 06-19-2008, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.

I can concur. I'd like to hear his side too. This could be just a ploy beings the thread magically disappeared and chrome got banned.

Gary

Helix · 06-19-2008, 08:00 PM

Good biz decision VS. I'd like to see chome check in on this.

SwiftRoll · 06-19-2008, 08:00 PM

Good news for all parties.

CyberHustler · 06-19-2008, 08:01 PM

The power of message boards...

dav3 · 06-19-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.

That's right. I forgot he was banned. I was wondering why I didn't see his name in here thanking them.

Kard63 · 06-19-2008, 08:13 PM

Goodjob vs, no one is right all the time so how you deal with being wrong means a lot.

Samantha_Luvcox · 06-19-2008, 08:21 PM

So, in total, how many people where banned over this before it was finally resolved. GFY showed its true colors with this one.

Brujah · 06-19-2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus

I can concur. I'd like to hear his side too. This could be just a ploy beings the thread magically disappeared and chrome got banned.

Gary

He posted on other boards where he didn't get banned for a legitimate gripe. He confirmed that they called him and resolved the matter. He's happy.

Pics Traffic · 06-19-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

the power of people. OWNED...

dav3 · 06-19-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

He posted on other boards where he didn't get banned for a legitimate gripe. He confirmed that they called him and resolved the matter. He's happy.

high five!

MediaGuy · 06-19-2008, 08:46 PM

This is an excellent position and correction to the situation and I commend you guys for it.

I held back from any position or posting or bumping of threads for the very reason that there seemed to be a horrendous, possibly premature backlash involved in that contentious thread.

I'm also glad to see I was right to hold back. It would have been in poor taste and a little vulturous to kick someone when they were down, to hamstring a competitor just because of human error and popular, and unjustified, vindictiveness and mob mentality.

Live video chat is a very special part and niche of adult entertainment, and we should either stick it to the nay-sayer, or stick together, in the long run.

Good move, VideoSecrets.

:D

qxm · 06-19-2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

This graph clearly states:

DO NOT FUCK WITH AFFILIATES

A lesson to many... yeap

After Shock Media · 06-19-2008, 08:55 PM

Thanks brujah for that.

jscott · 06-19-2008, 09:02 PM

+1 vote to unban chrome, was very unnecessary to ban him

TheLegacy · 06-19-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

+1 vote to unban chrome, was very unnecessary to ban him

I tend to agree - and am glad that VS made the choice to agree with webmasters in how their terms were interpreted. Though this whole matter should not have gotten this far - hope VS recovers from this and can move on since it will stick in the minds of webmasters for a long long time.

OY · 06-19-2008, 09:11 PM

Interesting. Like I said in my original post, VS paid us more than 5 years after we stopped sending traffic so I have NEVER doubted their integrity one bit. And I did not even know I was owed money.

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06-19-2008, 04:09 PM	#53
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06-19-2008, 04:07 PM	#52
Fetish Videos Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 100	Positive outcome is positive outcome..congrats to chrome and kudos to videosecrets for coming around and doing the right thing. One thing, Brad - "While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion" is pretty lame. The guy didn't quit YOU he quit the business altogether. All of your affiliates can NEVER leave the biz? And where is the love for HIM sending YOU the thousands of dollars a month biz that you got? This whole affiliate marketing concept is a two-way street. Anyway, the important thing is you stepped up - which was likely very hard to do considering the public beating, so VS deserves positive comments now just like they deserved the negative ones before. Credit where due, etc..

06-19-2008, 04:14 PM	#55
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06-19-2008, 07:23 PM	#79
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06-19-2008, 07:33 PM	#82
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06-19-2008, 07:42 PM	#83
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06-19-2008, 08:46 PM	#95
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06-19-2008, 09:02 PM	#98
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06-19-2008, 09:11 PM	#100
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Interesting. Like I said in my original post, VS paid us more than 5 years after we stopped sending traffic so I have NEVER doubted their integrity one bit. And I did not even know I was owed money. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within! Last edited by OY; 06-19-2008 at 09:13 PM..