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Old 08-04-2008, 01:43 PM   #51
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Dude you are not going to be a hero.

You need to focus on something more specific than "The Truth"

You know how many people have tried to tell "The Truth!" before you?

What's your story going to be about? who or what are you going to follow?
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:43 PM   #52
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From the sounds of it so far, you may as well ask Amazon.com why they decided to use the internet to sell books. The answers are 100% identical.

You need to narrow down what the hell you want to FOCUS on and then do so by asking the right questions.
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All points well taken. Perhaps my manifesto was a bit overboard but it was the truth. The only agenda I have is for the truth. Now it very well may turn out that everything network news has said is true. If so, thats what I will present. But I tend to think that it is the furthest thing from the true. I am not here to sensationalize anything.

I am all for being cool with people, even those I disagree with until they begin posting fake chats to try and discredit an honest attempt to do something positive.
Your manifest isnt based on the truth? Matt its based on generalizations. Like you named Tawney Stone but you didnt do your home work. So how can you say its based on truth? Once again its seems you have a very clear agenda and its not positive. You wouldn't be the first to use us as a stepping stone or to get ratings. lol Best of luck to you.
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Yeah but the thing here is: we haven't been posting fake chats. You imed me, I'm simply showing people what a lying coward clown you are.
I have already posted the pics that show the time the account was created which was after your fake chat thread.
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I am asking the questions that viewers will want to know. Does it make sense for me to go in great length about TGPs when the viewer will not even know what it stands for. Theres so many ways for this documentary to go and so much information to cover. While it is still in the infancy stage, I am trying gauge what is the better route and what topics provide the more interesting story to cover.

But its funny that there are some expecting me to divulge all this information about myself, my work, and my credit meanwhile, they too hide behind persona. The difference between most, is that my involvement with this documentary will most likely end my career in the mainstream market. I am not so sure I am wishing to give that up just yet. However, artistically, I feel compelled to cover this story on the adult world. But just like many involved in adult, they choose to keep their real names and associations private for the same fear of criticism and discrimination that society places on all involved in it.

The reality is that unless I come out with a documentary that totally denounces porn and paints you in poor negative, abusive nature, my mainstream options will decrease. How many people in this industry right now, that are open about what they do and if they quit your industry today, could get a real job that required something completely different than what they do now ( I am not talking about webmasters.) How many porn directors have honestly transitioned to mainstream, major budget films? ZERO. I still have that aspiration but my desire for the truth is far greater at this time.
It didn't hurt the secret lives of women to be positive. Didn't hurt the real sex people or pornatopia or penn and teller. It didnt hurt the people who created Seymour Butts show family business.Gregory Dark went from porn to music video including Mandy Moore and I think did a film or two.Again you have a very negative view.

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I have already posted the pics that show the time the account was created which was after your fake chat thread.
Yes and I already replied with a pic of the Photoshop retail box.
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Your manifest isnt based on the truth? Matt its based on generalizations. Like you named Tawney Stone but you didnt do your home work. So how can you say its based on truth? Once again its seems you have a very clear agenda and its not positive. You wouldn't be the first to use us as a stepping stone or to get ratings. lol Best of luck to you.
It is based on truth. What part of anything I said was untrue? The Tawney thing was pointed out and I digressed on that even though the statement I wrote was true. Her age hasnt changed on the site since it launched.

I suppose you will have to wait and see if I have an agenda or not. And when you do see that I don't, all I would like is a simple apology.
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Yes and I already replied with a pic of the Photoshop retail box.
Dude, will yo be at Internext? I will be there. Perhaps that would provide a better forum for you and I discuss and handle business if you catch my drift.
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Why interview people on an adult messageboard for a video documentary? Would seem to make more sense to me to just contact some of the more iconoclastic or controversial people in the industry, interview them on cam and hope for some fireworks
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It didn't hurt the secret lives of women to be positive. Didn't hurt the real sex people or pornatopia or penn and teller. It didnt hurt the people who created Seymour Butts show family business.Gregory Dark went from porn to music video including Mandy Moore and I think did a film or two.Again you have a very negative view.
And those shows that you have stated are all under contract to HBO and Showtime and are all on pay cable. Depending on the amount of success of this, I will have to make a decision then what to do. But right now, I am doing nothing more than protecting my career the same many here have chosen to do.
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It is based on truth. What part of anything I said was untrue? The Tawney thing was pointed out and I digressed on that even though the statement I wrote was true. Her age hasnt changed on the site since it launched.

I suppose you will have to wait and see if I have an agenda or not. And when you do see that I don't, all I would like is a simple apology.
Not everyone does those things you spoke about. As far as Tawney its fantasy not reality, you really don't understand that? All I can go by is your words, so in your manifesto you think we are pretty fucked up and then your last blog entry you dont paint a pretty picture and its seems to going to lowest common denominator. And you're surprised I think you are going to go negative? You're kidding right?
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Dude, I am not looking for fireworks. I am not trying to be Michael Moore. This isnt the only place i am gathering my research. But it is one place that webmasters, content producers, sponsors, and even performers all congregate.
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Hit up Achmed for interview about camel porn... should be worth a watch
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And those shows that you have stated are all under contract to HBO and Showtime and are all on pay cable. Depending on the amount of success of this, I will have to make a decision then what to do. But right now, I am doing nothing more than protecting my career the same many here have chosen to do.
You said if you go positive your career is over, I showed you a bunch that were positive and their careers arent over Also a porn guy who did music videos for 16 yr old female singers.
Also if your worried about protecting you career then you will not going to be a very interesting film maker. The great ones take risks.

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Not everyone does those things you spoke about. As far as Tawney its fantasy not reality, you really don't understand that? All I can go by is your words, so in your manifesto you think we are pretty fucked up and then your last blog entry you dont paint a pretty picture and its seems to going to lowest common denominator. And you're surprised I think you are going to go negative? You're kidding right?
Actually, I am surprised. I do think many of those companies are fucking up. Because anyone of those ideas could help a slow sales market prevent further decline if not even help it rebound.

The latest blog entry dealt with 2257, so I will assume you are referring to the previous one. Those are the same questions always be posed of the adult industry and those are the questions that I intend to strike down. Have any of you ever watched a true documentary? You always ask the questions before giving the answers. Its a way to involve the viewers and get them to make a decision before you provide them the answer. That is where real change takes place. Having a viewer recall their previous perception and then provide the answers that proves it wrong while providing them with a new informed perception.
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You said if you go positive your career is over, I showed you a bunch that were positive and their careers arent over Also a porn guy who did music videos for 16 yr old female singers.
Also if your worried about protecting you career then you will not going to be a very interesting film maker. The great ones take risks.
For who I work with, it would be a death knell. And frankly, working for any pay cable is not what I wish to do. Thats why I have chose the path I have.
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It is based on truth. What part of anything I said was untrue? The Tawney thing was pointed out and I digressed on that even though the statement I wrote was true. Her age hasnt changed on the site since it launched.

I suppose you will have to wait and see if I have an agenda or not. And when you do see that I don't, all I would like is a simple apology.
Dude you are bent out of shape about Tawnee Stone's website saying she is 19 after 5 years?

You think that is a bad thing and surfers are being lied to?

Well you can take one of the biggest players in Adult industry history and write him off your list of people who will talk to you..

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For who I work with, it would be a death knell. And frankly, working for any pay cable is not what I wish to do. Thats why I have chose the path I have.
You just said you wanted to sell the docu to Pay Cable... wtf are you talking about.

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Actually, I am surprised. I do think many of those companies are fucking up. Because anyone of those ideas could help a slow sales market prevent further decline if not even help it rebound.

The latest blog entry dealt with 2257, so I will assume you are referring to the previous one. Those are the same questions always be posed of the adult industry and those are the questions that I intend to strike down. Have any of you ever watched a true documentary? You always ask the questions before giving the answers. Its a way to involve the viewers and get them to make a decision before you provide them the answer. That is where real change takes place. Having a viewer recall their previous perception and then provide the answers that proves it wrong while providing them with a new informed perception.
See once again if you did your homework you would know. There are sites where customers can win things. Also there are shit load of sites where girls and sites have fans be in scenes.
Again for someone who is going to be positive, I haven't read one thing you have written that's positive only the word positive. If Im wrong please show me. I have no problem saying I was wrong.

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Dude you are not going to be a hero.

You need to focus on something more specific than "The Truth"

You know how many people have tried to tell "The Truth!" before you?

What's your story going to be about? who or what are you going to follow?
Not looking to be a hero. Those that have tried before me have failed for various reasons. How about waiting until you see a finished product before passing judgment?

Focusing is what I am working on now. A good journalist considers all avenues before proceeding down just any path.
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Dude you are bent out of shape about Tawnee Stone's website saying she is 19 after 5 years?

You think that is a bad thing and surfers are being lied to?

Well you can take one of the biggest players in Adult industry history and write him off your list of people who will talk to you..
Out of all the webmasters' problem section, this is the only thing you pull out and address?
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See once again if you did your homework you would know. There are sites where customers can win things. Also there are shit load of sites where girls and sites have fans be in scenes.
Again for someone who is going to be positive, I haven't read one thing you have written that's positive only the word positive. If Im wrong please show me. I have no problem saying I was wrong.
But the same sites, webmasters, sponsors etc.. experiencing the slow sales and bitching about it are the ones who aren't doing those things.

Not everyone is fucking up, but the number is far greater tan those that are doing it right.
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Out of all the webmasters' problem section, this is the only thing you pull out and address?
I address it because it was just brought up.

Interesting how you first say you are here to present the truth the positive view of the adult industry the view mainstream media ignores...

But now you are talking about problems with tours lying about ages?

Seems to me you are full of shit about something...

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But the same sites, webmasters, sponsors etc.. experiencing the slow sales and bitching about it are the ones who aren't doing those things.

Not everyone is fucking up, but the number is far greater tan those that are doing it right.
Interesting comments from you I must say...

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You just said you wanted to sell the docu to Pay Cable... wtf are you talking about.
Because selling to pay cable would pay a nice chunk of change and if that route were to happen, all of my serious non-cable work would dry up. Thats why the consideration is there. Please remember, just as you all are claiming I dont know what the fuck I am talking about in the adult industry, many of you are doing the same when it comes to mainstream and pay cable work. Thats why I am asking the questions so that I can be more informed about the correct ways and not present it incorrectly.
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Dude, will yo be at Internext? I will be there. Perhaps that would provide a better forum for you and I discuss and handle business if you catch my drift.
Yeah I'll be there and when I see you I'll kick the fuck out of you, how's about that shit? Make a doc about that you cocksucker.
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Mattsbeachhouse has been very busy.

http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...4/#comment-820

For a newb he sure has an opinion..

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I address it because it was just brought up.

Interesting how you first say you are here to present the truth the positive view of the adult industry the view mainstream media ignores...

But now you are talking about problems with tours lying about ages?

Seems to me you are full of shit about something...



Interesting comments from you I must say...
So address the entire thing. Do you consider it a lie and theft when there are pre-checked cross sales that the customer is not made aware of? Do you not agree that there are websites that do not provide updates enough and end up having one of their customers rip their site and dump it on the net? Do you think this could be one of the reason people look to other avenues for free porn rather than continue getting fucked over?

I have presented s many real issues that went unaddressed. But out of all of my writing, you take issue about an age that hasnt change? Is it a lie? Perhaps. Is it fantasy? Perhaps. But shouldnt reality reflect reality?
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Mattsbeachhouse has been very busy.

http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...4/#comment-820
He also seems to be a self appointed expert on everything adult.

"Porn companies MUST evolve and adapt for continue the downward slide."
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Yeah I'll be there and when I see you I'll kick the fuck out of you, how's about that shit? Make a doc about that you cocksucker.
I wouldnt be so sure of the outcome there Shirley.
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Yeah I'll be there and when I see you I'll kick the fuck out of you, how's about that shit? Make a doc about that you cocksucker.
Hypothetically speaking of course.
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http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...4/#comment-820

For a newb he sure has an opinion..
Whoever said I was a newb?
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But the same sites, webmasters, sponsors etc.. experiencing the slow sales and bitching about it are the ones who aren't doing those things.

Not everyone is fucking up, but the number is far greater tan those that are doing it right.
What are you basing that on? Gods knows how many porn sites there are online. You visited them all? Also the economy is in the toilet that does effect who buys and who doesnt. People are losing homes, jobs and the cost of everything is going up.Banks are cutting peoples open credit lines,this all does effect us. Tubes effect us, youporn is only 7 behind amazon in alexa. If you think that doesnt effect sales I got a bridge to sell you. Its not all one thing, its a bunch of things. Are there some with questionable practices yes just like there are in every industry on the planet.
As far as making the customer happy. Let me tell you a story, when we started we were a free site,it was to promote my wifes webcam work. We gave them 75 to 125 new exclusive pictures every month for free and you know what people bitched and it was free. No pops, no upsales the only thing it spoke about was when my wife was on webcam and it wasnt good enough they wanted more and it was fucking free.
I dont give you permission to use this. Better safe than sorry. lol
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Okay how about we arrange a one on one, winner gets $5k. Put your money where your mouth is. You can talk shit all day long on AIM but when it comes to the crunch you don't have the balls to face me. I hit people in their wallets mostly, but I'll make an exception to that rule this time and take the 5k cash and give you a beat down in front of my team here at gfy. When I say team I mean literally couple hundred guys on gfy that roll with me. Average street Joe Mac VS Dating Game Expert, who's gonna win? I'll put 5k on it that I will own your ass.
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What are you basing that on? Gods knows how many porn sites there are online. You visited them all? Also the economy is in the toilet that does effect who buys and who doesnt. People are losing homes, jobs and the cost of everything is going up.Banks are cutting peoples open credit lines,this all does effect us. Tubes effect us, youporn is only 7 behind amazon in alexa. If you think that doesnt effect sales I got a bridge to sell you. Its not all one thing, its a bunch of things. Are there some with questionable practices yes just like there are in every industry on the planet.
As far as making the customer happy. Let me tell you a story, when we started we were a free site,it was to promote my wifes webcam work. We gave them 75 to 125 new exclusive pictures every month for free and you know what people bitched and it was free. No pops, no upsales the only thing it spoke about was when my wife was on webcam and it wasnt good enough they wanted more and it was fucking free.
I dont give you permission to use this. Better safe than sorry. lol
One needs to look no further than the major porn producers laying off people. I am positive the economy has a lot to do with it. I am sure piracy lends it fair share as well. But your industry is no different than any other industry from those same issues. Movies, music, etc... all suffer from theft. All are facing the same down economy. So when the competition remains the same or increases for what is now a smaller portion of the pie, you have to evolve and raise the value to retain or gain new sales otherwise, you risk losing that sale to some other company within your industry or to another industry altogether.
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Okay how about we arrange a one on one, winner gets $5k. Put your money where your mouth is. You can talk shit all day long on AIM but when it comes to the crunch you don't have the balls to face me. I hit people in their wallets mostly, but I'll make an exception to that rule this time and take the 5k cash and give you a beat down in front of my team here at gfy. When I say team I mean literally couple hundred guys on gfy that roll with me. Average street Joe Mac VS Dating Game Expert, who's gonna win? I'll put 5k on it that I will own your ass.
Dude, seriously? How old are you? Doesnt GFY have age limits? But hey, since it will be in a public setting, video can be made without permission nor securing any rights or compensation. I wonder how the editing would look in post? I ask you a question, camera is rolling, and you and your "200 memba gangstas" jump me? Sounds great Sally. Count me in.
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One needs to look no further than the major porn producers laying off people. I am positive the economy has a lot to do with it. I am sure piracy lends it fair share as well. But your industry is no different than any other industry from those same issues. Movies, music, etc... all suffer from theft. All are facing the same down economy. So when the competition remains the same or increases for what is now a smaller portion of the pie, you have to evolve and raise the value to retain or gain new sales otherwise, you risk losing that sale to some other company within your industry or to another industry altogether.
He just said the economy affects shit. You suck at this.
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He just said the economy affects shit. You suck at this.
Ill deal with you later Alice. Till then, keep the dick suckers shut.
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Well Matt I would love to go back and forth more but I got to get ready to shoot, then edit. See I was going to take a nap,I have a massive headache and you kept me up.So now I have to work with a headache lol take care.
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Dude, seriously? How old are you? Doesnt GFY have age limits? But hey, since it will be in a public setting, video can be made without permission nor securing any rights or compensation. I wonder how the editing would look in post? I ask you a question, camera is rolling, and you and your "200 memba gangstas" jump me? Sounds great Sally. Count me in.
I never said my team would jump you. They may snatch your wallet and your fake gold chain though for fronting.

You wanna put me in the doc, by all means do, I'm known here. I'm probably one of the biggest prodigies in the industry, up and coming dating game smasher, you're just a spectator. All the guys I run with on here make more paper than you and your friends, family combined. We don't fuck around with kids like you who try to come at us sideways trying to get info from us on how we make our change.

You wanna step to me at the show go ahead, but I'm warning you, you are going to be pissing on yourself.
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I never said my team would jump you. They may snatch your wallet and your fake gold chain though for fronting.

You wanna put me in the doc, by all means do, I'm known here. I'm probably one of the biggest prodigies in the industry, up and coming dating game smasher, you're just a spectator. All the guys I run with on here make more paper than you and your friends, family combined. We don't fuck around with kids like you who try to come at us sideways trying to get info from us on how we make our change.

You wanna step to me at the show go ahead, but I'm warning you, you are going to be pissing on yourself.
Wow, and humble too. I will be there my friend. If you have to brag this much, surely you are compensating for something...so bring you're posse...it should be fun.
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Wow, and humble too. I will be there my friend. If you have to brag this much, surely you are compensating for something...so bring you're posse...it should be fun.
Pretty much everyone there except GrouchyAdmin is my posse. This is gonna be like you sat in a dark room with a thousand mosquitoes buzzing at you.
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Pretty much everyone there except GrouchyAdmin is my posse. This is gonna be like you sat in a dark room with a thousand mosquitoes buzzing at you.
If you claim so Michelle. Which of those bitch names would you like to be called after you get put down? I have given you so many to choose from cock chugger.
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If you claim so Michelle. Which of those bitch names would you like to be called after you get put down? I have given you so many to choose from cock chugger.
You want me to be a girl so you can try to have sex with me. Listen, I'll see you at the show then we'll see who goes down..
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Welp so now that we all know mattsbeachhouse is full of shit... I'm going to get some lunch

I love how quickly people crumble.

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You want me to be a girl so you can try to have sex with me. Listen, I'll see you at the show then we'll see who goes down..
All cock suckers tend to be bitches. Yes, we will see each other. Just walk across the street to the UFC party my friend.
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Matt you certianly wont get any answers talking to webmasters and program owners on this forum the way you are talking to them now, and from your blog you dont seem to know what the hell you are talking about apart from flaming the people who make a living from this biz. I have only been in this game for over a year and have got to know some real nice honest people in this industry. Most of the people in this biz are not social rejects or scum, they simply run a business in order to make money like any other business.
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Nice little bump to get this back up so people know what an ass clown this character is.
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