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Black_Widow · 08-22-2008, 09:19 AM

You don't make any money.

How mache are you making with this shit?

http://bobbyslist.com/

or this one

http://barelylegalnexus.com/

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

we got some angry people in this thread

no anger here

just being honest and pointing out the obvious about people in general

baddog · 08-22-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Widow

You don't make any money.

How mache are you making with this shit?

http://bobbyslist.com/

or this one

http://barelylegalnexus.com/

Come on, those look like huge money makers.

</sarcasm>

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 10:55 AM

pussyserver applies the lotion to it's skin

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Come on, those look like huge money makers.

</sarcasm>

oh yeah i make a million a day on those thanks for posting them ... maybe i will make 2 mil now

2012 · 08-22-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

pussyserver applies the lotion to it's skin

put its in the basket

fluffygrrl · 08-22-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Sometimes it's a hard pill for me to swallow to even consider them as part of this business....because they really aren't.

I certainly can see the argument.

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The affiliates with the most sales are freeones, boobster, jogs, lanas, and a HANDFUL of others. And the one thing they all have in common is that they actually own sites that are well done and full of personality and a "human touch".

That is something that all "affiliates" could learn from in my opinion.

notime · 08-22-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

... no shaving...
... no bullshit...
... real content...

I can relate to this part
for any business should in order to keep the business growing
in one business model or another

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notime

I can relate to this part
for any business should in order to keep the business growing
in one business model or another

exactly

the promlem with online adult is hat you have clueless people who got luck after throwing up some links etc profess to be the uber end all be all

they even put these people on panels etc lmao

I love GFY

ohtechwiz · 08-22-2008, 07:54 PM

Bump for Slutty Dollars & Aftershock.

TheDoc · 08-22-2008, 08:04 PM

So if we have 15,000+ programs, including processor programs, and out of them just over 100 do shady xsales screwing the member over. That's .6%

Then if a program has 10,000 webmasters and 10% are active that is 1000 active Webmasters, having 1% fraud base would mean 10 people. That's a piss low number. If Webmasters produce about half the sales for the global programs. (since we have no idea)

That would mean Webmasters have a much higher chance of frauding than the average program would. And if traffic/sales is split between programs and webmasters, it would mean Webmasters screw the surfer over more.

fatfoo · 08-22-2008, 08:07 PM

yeah... hmmm..

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 08:29 PM

Fraud by anyone is bad

Aussie Rebel · 08-22-2008, 08:35 PM

So you make money hand over fist with these? http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849706-pussyservers-top-money-sites.html not being smart I'm just asking

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

So you make money hand over fist with these? http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849706-pussyservers-top-money-sites.html not being smart I'm just asking

I dont understand your question??

Please explain??

Thanks

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

So you make money hand over fist with these? http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849706-pussyservers-top-money-sites.html not being smart I'm just asking

lol I clicked your link and all I see is

View Post Today, 12:24 PM
Remove user from ignore listBlack_Widow
This message is hidden because Black_Widow is on your ignore list.

I Never .. I mean never read messages of people on my ignore list and since the thread is started by someone on my ignore list I honestly just closed it

please feel free to voice whatever concerns were raised

Barefootsies · 08-22-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

you should be arrested for this pic

pocketkangaroo · 08-22-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Two Words: Search Engine Two More Words:Type Ins

For most programs that will give them all they need pussyserver. Since you're not really in the biz...let me tell you a secret: I've been an affiliate for a little over 10 years. Easiest money I ever made. Granted I had and have my own real traffic from tgps that I own. But let me show you some quick math: If you were an affiliate of mine and someone signed up through your code you make $17.49 on that revshare 50/50 sale. Only it ISN'T really 50/50. Not only do you NOT share the cost of shooting, editing, uploading, updating, hosting...but you also do NOT share the simple cost of billing and when one of your surfers tries to sign up but is declined (yes pusssyserver, we get charged by the credit card processors for that too) Not to mention that when one of your surfers turns out to be a scammer and comes in to download an entire members area for later upload to a tube and then does a chargeback...I not only lose the money on the sale, but then the bank charges ME $55 on top of that.

So no...you will make FAR MORE than 50%...

But be that as it may...out of that $34.99 sale you make $17.49 The biller makes $6.29 I then have a grand profit (after all my real hard work, risk, and actual money put out) of $11.38

BUT, when I get a type in from a search engine? Then my only cost is the biller and I profit $28.87 on that sale.

That is why program owners often throw their hands up in the air over affiliates "demands" and affiliates trying to "share" in every bit of monetization of a paysite. You want to "share" my x-sell or my upsell? Then your ass can "share" in my production costs and declines and chargebacks and hosting.

Does that make sense? As After Shock Media said....It's not all black and white.

I make the majority of my income on my work as an affiliate through my tgps. Takes me a couple of hours a day. The sponsors send me emails full of promo material. I import them into my database, they are cued up to run...done. Easiest money I ever made in my life.

My work with my paysite? I spend 8 to 10 hours a day EVERYDAY working on it. And the challenges never stop.

I'm not whining or crying about anything...but I know that as an affiliate I never realized what it was like on the paysite side. Now I see both sides. I can tell you that being an affiiate is not as difficult as being a paysite owner. Not by a long shot.

And let me tell you a secret, affiliates spend time and money to bring in their traffic. Perhaps some of that isn't as tangible as the cost of a server, but it's still expenses.

Nonetheless, the argument on both sides of the coin are retarded. You don't see American Airlines bitching that the local travel agents aren't paying for the cost of jet fuel. Both sides are profitible business models with pros and cons.

I personally think it's a great time to be an affiliate. Everyone who had a digital camera and wanted some bro status on the boards created their own program. Many with no traffic in their back pocket and little money in the bank. The program market is so oversaturated that companies need to give ridiculous offers to affiliates just to keep them happy. Not to mention that as an affiliate, you can simply swap your sponsor at any time if you have issues with them.

It isn't to say that starting a program is dumb, just that there are a lot of people who have no business starting a program and should have spent their time and money building traffic which will always be profitible.

Nicky · 08-22-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Last I checked for every program that still shaved or scammed their affiliates there were 50 affiliates out there scamming programs with fake joins from stolen cc's etc. Its pretty clear some of you guys have never seen the running of a paysite program .. affiliate's have it good but its not gonna last too much longer.

I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride I'm wanted, dead or alive.

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 09:20 PM

You have good points pocketkangaroo. But I know the man hours I put in as an affiliate over the last 10 years, and compared to the work on a paysite it isn't even close. Not saying anything bad one way or another...just saying that's the way it is. And the affiliate makes the lions share of a sale.

And just like there area only a handful of affiliates who can really send sales...there are only a handful of sites that really can be sold to the surfer.

You match up a thoughtful, hardworking affiliate who owns their own site and sends golden traffic to a paysite that has a great selling niche and is well thought out and interactive with exclusive and unique content...and it's gold.

It's a lot harder to sell some of the mega-sites with their purchased content these days. It's all over the tubes and torrents and doesn't really offer much of an experience in the members area.

It can still be done. But the real money is that handful of affiliates and that handful of paysites. And really, that's the way it's always been. Even when all the "affiliates" that really aren't in my opinion were making what they thought was good money. It was never even close to what real good money is.

But a lot of guys hopped in and discovered that they might could make a grand a week signing up for affiliate programs and basically throwing stuff against a wall to see if it sticks. The tubes and torrents have changed that. It just doesn't work anymore.

That's why the guys with freesites that have been around for years and run clean and develop trust with surfers still make the sales and always will.

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 09:23 PM

Damn, let's quit being all serious and shit...back to the thread topic. We are all losers. There can be only one. And that one is pussyserver baby! A pimp of all pimps and my main man. Don't be haters. pussyserver is the true

pocketkangaroo · 08-22-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You have good points pocketkangaroo. But I know the man hours I put in as an affiliate over the last 10 years, and compared to the work on a paysite it isn't even close. Not saying anything bad one way or another...just saying that's the way it is. And the affiliate makes the lions share of a sale.

And just like there area only a handful of affiliates who can really send sales...there are only a handful of sites that really can be sold to the surfer.

You match up a thoughtful, hardworking affiliate who owns their own site and sends golden traffic to a paysite that has a great selling niche and is well thought out and interactive with exclusive and unique content...and it's gold.

It's a lot harder to sell some of the mega-sites with their purchased content these days. It's all over the tubes and torrents and doesn't really offer much of an experience in the members area.

It can still be done. But the real money is that handful of affiliates and that handful of paysites. And really, that's the way it's always been. Even when all the "affiliates" that really aren't in my opinion were making what they thought was good money. It was never even close to what real good money is.

But a lot of guys hopped in and discovered that they might could make a grand a week signing up for affiliate programs and basically throwing stuff against a wall to see if it sticks. The tubes and torrents have changed that. It just doesn't work anymore.

That's why the guys with freesites that have been around for years and run clean and develop trust with surfers still make the sales and always will.

I agree, although I don't think it's so cut and dry. I'd assume that a site like TheBestPorn.com puts in a lot of money into development and content. I'd wager it's more than many programs. The good affiliates you speak of with solid traffic night in and night out are the ones that invested a lot of time and money into their traffic sources.

Nonetheless, I think it's a great time to be an affiliate and would recommend it to anyone. I honestly don't see why so many people jump into the program game when they have no traffic lined up at all. It's sad to see people putting all their money and time into building an affiliate program, then be relegated to begging affiliates on a message board for a few clicks.

I also think the jump from everyong being an affiliate to everyone being a program owner is the reason you don't have a lot of good affiliates out there anymore.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn, let's quit being all serious and shit...back to the thread topic. We are all losers. There can be only one. And that one is pussyserver baby! A pimp of all pimps and my main man. Don't be haters. pussyserver is the true

Well I guess since you are all knowing about everything ...

I love my haters, stalkers and the like

Robbie it amazes me that you consistently put yourself in the same category as the broke trolls on GFY.

Why do you follow me around posting irrelevant nonsense? I don’t even know you fella… get a grip man.... no time to be a hater just get better at life

ok?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I also think the jump from everyong being an affiliate to everyone being a program owner is the reason you don't have a lot of good affiliates out there anymore.

and also the reason why there are so many shitty programs

EmpireAutopilot · 08-22-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Two Words: Search Engine Two More Words:Type Ins

For most programs that will give them all they need pussyserver. Since you're not really in the biz...let me tell you a secret: I've been an affiliate for a little over 10 years. Easiest money I ever made. Granted I had and have my own real traffic from tgps that I own. But let me show you some quick math: If you were an affiliate of mine and someone signed up through your code you make $17.49 on that revshare 50/50 sale. Only it ISN'T really 50/50. Not only do you NOT share the cost of shooting, editing, uploading, updating, hosting...but you also do NOT share the simple cost of billing and when one of your surfers tries to sign up but is declined (yes pusssyserver, we get charged by the credit card processors for that too) Not to mention that when one of your surfers turns out to be a scammer and comes in to download an entire members area for later upload to a tube and then does a chargeback...I not only lose the money on the sale, but then the bank charges ME $55 on top of that.

So no...you will make FAR MORE than 50%...

But be that as it may...out of that $34.99 sale you make $17.49 The biller makes $6.29 I then have a grand profit (after all my real hard work, risk, and actual money put out) of $11.38

BUT, when I get a type in from a search engine? Then my only cost is the biller and I profit $28.87 on that sale.

That is why program owners often throw their hands up in the air over affiliates "demands" and affiliates trying to "share" in every bit of monetization of a paysite. You want to "share" my x-sell or my upsell? Then your ass can "share" in my production costs and declines and chargebacks and hosting.

Does that make sense? As After Shock Media said....It's not all black and white.

I make the majority of my income on my work as an affiliate through my tgps. Takes me a couple of hours a day. The sponsors send me emails full of promo material. I import them into my database, they are cued up to run...done. Easiest money I ever made in my life.

My work with my paysite? I spend 8 to 10 hours a day EVERYDAY working on it. And the challenges never stop.

I'm not whining or crying about anything...but I know that as an affiliate I never realized what it was like on the paysite side. Now I see both sides. I can tell you that being an affiiate is not as difficult as being a paysite owner. Not by a long shot.

You see, you make this type in and search engine traffic argument like most sponsors. Have you ever stopped to think how much less SE and type in traffic you would have without 1000 affiliates giving you backlinks and branding your site name to surfers? Sure you have some TGP's for your own work but all those links HELP YOU MAKE MORE MONEY. All the lost sales from people that came from an affiliate but didn't sign up until a month later because they remembered your site name, you ignore that.

No it's not black and white but both sides in this argument conveniently leave out information to make their side look better. 90% of your type in and se signups are probably related to what an affiliate did at some point in your sites life.

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I agree, although I don't think it's so cut and dry. I'd assume that a site like TheBestPorn.com puts in a lot of money into development and content. I'd wager it's more than many programs. The good affiliates you speak of with solid traffic night in and night out are the ones that invested a lot of time and money into their traffic sources.

Nonetheless, I think it's a great time to be an affiliate and would recommend it to anyone. I honestly don't see why so many people jump into the program game when they have no traffic lined up at all. It's sad to see people putting all their money and time into building an affiliate program, then be relegated to begging affiliates on a message board for a few clicks.

I also think the jump from everyong being an affiliate to everyone being a program owner is the reason you don't have a lot of good affiliates out there anymore.

Ken does real well with his review sites, as does Rabbits. The tubes and torrents have affected them as well...some surfers use all of our freesites as "guides" to tell them what to search for on the damn tubes.

I'm not so sure that the days of amateur surfers suddenly becoming affiliates and making bank are still here. I honestly think that the guys who have been in this game a long time are the ones who have built up the trust factor with the surfer. I've made my living by that philosophy for 10 years now.

And now to my main man pussyserver. Bro! I'm not a hater anymore! I'm your biggest fan! Now that BlackWidow guy? He seems to have you in his crosshairs. But not me. I now enjoy your posts for exactly what they are. Even when you called me disrespectful names earlier in this thread. I took it with a grain of salt.

pussyserver: THE MAN! Hell yes!

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot

You see, you make this type in and search engine traffic argument like most sponsors. Have you ever stopped to think how much less SE and type in traffic you would have without 1000 affiliates giving you backlinks and branding your site name to surfers? Sure you have some TGP's for your own work but all those links HELP YOU MAKE MORE MONEY. All the lost sales from people that came from an affiliate but didn't sign up until a month later because they remembered your site name, you ignore that.

No it's not black and white but both sides in this argument conveniently leave out information to make their side look better. 90% of your type in and se signups are probably related to what an affiliate did at some point in your sites life.

Great points that apply to 9 out of 10 paysites. If you owned "genericwhoresgettingfucked.com" you definitely have to have those affiliates with the backlinks going. No doubt. Good point.

On the other hand...the really good sites out there who go after a specific niche and/or feature a solo girl who fulfills a niche don't neccessarily follow that blueprint. Always an exception to the rule.

EmpireAutopilot · 08-22-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Great points that apply to 9 out of 10 paysites. If you owned "genericwhoresgettingfucked.com" you definitely have to have those affiliates with the backlinks going. No doubt. Good point.

On the other hand...the really good sites out there who go after a specific niche and/or feature a solo girl who fulfills a niche don't neccessarily follow that blueprint. Always an exception to the rule.

I don't doubt the exceptions. Even you said yourself that you have your own sites driving traffic so this would have less of an impact on you. There are a lot of dirty people in this business in general. There is a lot of turning a blind eye to the crap that goes on because that's just the way it is.

Someone earlier said I need a sponsor to send traffic to. I can tell you I'd much rather be stuck with traffic than a paysite and no affiliates. I could try to sell them cookies if it came down to it. Obviously I would look for something to sell if it meant downloading porn from aol and burning it onto a CD.

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 10:01 PM

That's the truth EmpireAutoPilot

But sometimes you don't even need traffic if your niche is hot and very focused.

Look at tony404 Mandy Blakes' site is very successful. He doesn't even have an affiliate program...though he does invite a handful of people to promote her. He doesn't really need affiliates. He has the product. BBW lovers WILL find what they like. Sometimes I wonder if it's a little like searching on Ebay for something. They seem to find Mandy Blake no matter what.

Same thing with big tits. Claudia-Marie had a thousand members in the first couple of months we opened the doors last year. And she wasn't in the adult business in any way at all until we did that. Not even as a dancer.

The afficiandos of these niches search high and low for what they like. We acheived success right out of the door by me sending a little traffic and then literally word of mouth spreading over big tit forums and chat rooms almost overnight.

Now if you open a paysite with a bunch of content you bought feauturing the porn valley girls getting fucked by the porn valley guys, it's gonna be a lot tougher sale. There can be a niche there but not a specific focused thing.

In that case it better be a great idea and theme and you better have a LOT of really good affiliates sending traffic.

Robbie · 08-22-2008, 10:04 PM

Hey by the way empire...you have some problems on your site. The includes aren't coming up.

jimmy-3-way · 08-22-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert

Alright fair enough. Everyone sign up and start promoting this guy, he's giving out free handjobs to all affiliates!

JK bro.

For the record I was the very first to offer an affiliate a handjob - surely you recall the famous J3W diss thread.

TheDoc · 08-22-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot

You see, you make this type in and search engine traffic argument like most sponsors. Have you ever stopped to think how much less SE and type in traffic you would have without 1000 affiliates giving you backlinks and branding your site name to surfers?

Hummm.... not much at all, actually statically less than 10%. That's the natural internet shave error, that all paysites have. Then, most paysites have 10% of the total daily traffic base they get, so if that 10% returns, where is the 10% from the natural error? Well, it means Webmasters actually produce more like 5%.

Webmasters kill paysites, when was the last time you saw a paysite, that is affiliate promoted, rocked across Google on 100's or even 1000's of keyword phrases? Without the owner doing any inhouse magic, talking about Webmaster traffic here.

Webmasters help paysites by sending them more traffic, which produces more sales, which makes them more money. No reason to confuse what the job/role of the Webmaster is or the results produced.

MissMina · 08-22-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

My work with my paysite? I spend 8 to 10 hours a day EVERYDAY working on it. And the challenges never stop.

I can tell you that being an affiiate is not as difficult as being a paysite owner. Not by a long shot.

YellowDude · 08-23-2008, 12:15 AM

You need good content tat make your affiliates happy

Tjeezers · 08-23-2008, 03:31 AM

First, a sponsor is starting a program to get webmaster traffic
As soon they have it, they are going to find sticks to beat us webmasters down

Most program owners were webmasters before, and they are owner cause they are sick of being a tool, ones they are a owner, they use tools to make us sick.

A lot of owners are starting a program to make a future. They actually care about the webmasters, but also have a group of spammers, fakers, scammers, shitters... Those people who make his day bad also affect the group of true webmasters.

etc etc etc bla bla bla

Face it, when you start a program, you probably have a group of webmasters in your contact list to start with, those are probably the 5 % of the 100 who make good sales. You go public and know you get also this other shitty 95% in your list, you wished you never went public, cause you have suddenly a high expensive on the scamms and fuckers.

You can TURN THIS ANYWAY you want, there is always a downside and upside. No matter what, you work with people, and people are tricking you, part of nature. There is a small group of webmasters who have MUCH TO LOOSE, they would not even think about using tricks, they put their good name in risk.

I am an affiliate, send to 160 sponsors, and i have no fear, i do not use cards to get some PPS in my pocket cause i need to pay my rent.

There are 100`s of guys like me, working their ass of to make a HONEST living, and those guys are also irritated by the behavior of many sponsors.
We helped them with starting their program, and soon those owners are on shows selling our fucking traffic to other programs cause they want extra cash...

Anyway, i gave up long ago trusting owners, i see them as a tool, a tool for me to make money with, i have the traffic, they DO NOT have my traffic, or get it in anyway.

We need each other, if this is not a fact, then your probably having a different idea of making money.

Reading how owners are making costs etc etc etc etc and I should be happy i dont have to pay for it, cause my earnings minus his costs would kill my revshare... Man thats just BULLSHIT... You can oversell your content as soon you have a fucking good marketing plan and KNOW how to find the best webmasters. Your movies are probably sold for 1000 times already when you have the Creme of the Creme traffic senders in your pocket.

Anyway, i like how pussyserver stands up for affiliates in this topic, props for that. A guy like me never gets noticed, free tickets for a show, or a cristmas card.

I only get holiday cards from VS, Secretfriends, and AFF....

Black_Widow · 08-23-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

lol I clicked your link and all I see is

View Post Today, 12:24 PM
Remove user from ignore listBlack_Widow
This message is hidden because Black_Widow is on your ignore list.

I Never .. I mean never read messages of people on my ignore list and since the thread is started by someone on my ignore list I honestly just closed it

please feel free to voice whatever concerns were raised

Niqga, please.

Barefootsies · 08-23-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Widow

Niqga, please.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-24-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

First, a sponsor is starting a program to get webmaster traffic
As soon they have it, they are going to find sticks to beat us webmasters down

Most program owners were webmasters before, and they are owner cause they are sick of being a tool, ones they are a owner, they use tools to make us sick.

A lot of owners are starting a program to make a future. They actually care about the webmasters, but also have a group of spammers, fakers, scammers, shitters... Those people who make his day bad also affect the group of true webmasters.

etc etc etc bla bla bla

Face it, when you start a program, you probably have a group of webmasters in your contact list to start with, those are probably the 5 % of the 100 who make good sales. You go public and know you get also this other shitty 95% in your list, you wished you never went public, cause you have suddenly a high expensive on the scamms and fuckers.

You can TURN THIS ANYWAY you want, there is always a downside and upside. No matter what, you work with people, and people are tricking you, part of nature. There is a small group of webmasters who have MUCH TO LOOSE, they would not even think about using tricks, they put their good name in risk.

I am an affiliate, send to 160 sponsors, and i have no fear, i do not use cards to get some PPS in my pocket cause i need to pay my rent.

There are 100`s of guys like me, working their ass of to make a HONEST living, and those guys are also irritated by the behavior of many sponsors.
We helped them with starting their program, and soon those owners are on shows selling our fucking traffic to other programs cause they want extra cash...

Anyway, i gave up long ago trusting owners, i see them as a tool, a tool for me to make money with, i have the traffic, they DO NOT have my traffic, or get it in anyway.

We need each other, if this is not a fact, then your probably having a different idea of making money.

Reading how owners are making costs etc etc etc etc and I should be happy i dont have to pay for it, cause my earnings minus his costs would kill my revshare... Man thats just BULLSHIT... You can oversell your content as soon you have a fucking good marketing plan and KNOW how to find the best webmasters. Your movies are probably sold for 1000 times already when you have the Creme of the Creme traffic senders in your pocket.

Anyway, i like how pussyserver stands up for affiliates in this topic, props for that. A guy like me never gets noticed, free tickets for a show, or a cristmas card.

I only get holiday cards from VS, Secretfriends, and AFF....

I completely agree

so refreshing to see someone with an honest opinion and not here for the sould purpose of kissing another mans ass

Juicy D. Links · 08-24-2008, 07:20 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZZZAD...eature=related

10-30-2008, 01:46 AM

Yes he is so rich he ahs to bitch about $65 on here. Haha.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-30-2008, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

Yes he is so rich he ahs to bitch about $65 on here. Haha.

Jane B has a squirrel in her pussy ... and heres proof

jurar1 · 10-30-2008, 02:02 AM

very funny

BAKO · 10-30-2008, 02:10 AM

This thread is worthless

10-30-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Bako

This thread is worthless

Tell that to Pussyserver. He thinks he is the God of GFY.

Jack Sparrow · 10-30-2008, 05:06 AM

Time to call: I ARE BATMAN!

StuartD · 10-30-2008, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

Tell that to Pussyserver. He thinks he is the God of GFY.

More like Jesus. He keeps getting banned for the things he did wrong only to return and ask for forgiveness.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-31-2008, 02:56 AM

pussyserver is a criminal - stealing from toy stores - and a broke nigga who couldnt even land a job at a hotel

Jakez · 10-31-2008, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

if you are an affiliate

stay on the look out for my my new morals based program

... no shaving...

... no bullshit...

... real content...

real people...none of this fake big baller im the man shit... just a guy whos your equal trying to make a living just like you

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LOL, I'm not even capable of shaving.

Jakez · 10-31-2008, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

pussyserver is a criminal - stealing from toy stores - and a broke nigga who couldnt even land a job at a hotel

ROFL WTF?

Something tells me bars (aka Xanax) were involved? Jesus Christ...

Barefootsies · 10-31-2008, 04:25 AM

08-22-2008, 10:55 AM	#54
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	pussyserver applies the lotion to it's skin __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

08-22-2008, 07:54 PM	#60
ohtechwiz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 39	Bump for Slutty Dollars & Aftershock. __________________ http://www.ponysplayhouse.com

08-22-2008, 08:04 PM	#61
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	So if we have 15,000+ programs, including processor programs, and out of them just over 100 do shady xsales screwing the member over. That's .6% Then if a program has 10,000 webmasters and 10% are active that is 1000 active Webmasters, having 1% fraud base would mean 10 people. That's a piss low number. If Webmasters produce about half the sales for the global programs. (since we have no idea) That would mean Webmasters have a much higher chance of frauding than the average program would. And if traffic/sales is split between programs and webmasters, it would mean Webmasters screw the surfer over more. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

08-22-2008, 08:07 PM	#62
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	yeah... hmmm.. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

08-22-2008, 09:20 PM	#70
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	You have good points pocketkangaroo. But I know the man hours I put in as an affiliate over the last 10 years, and compared to the work on a paysite it isn't even close. Not saying anything bad one way or another...just saying that's the way it is. And the affiliate makes the lions share of a sale. And just like there area only a handful of affiliates who can really send sales...there are only a handful of sites that really can be sold to the surfer. You match up a thoughtful, hardworking affiliate who owns their own site and sends golden traffic to a paysite that has a great selling niche and is well thought out and interactive with exclusive and unique content...and it's gold. It's a lot harder to sell some of the mega-sites with their purchased content these days. It's all over the tubes and torrents and doesn't really offer much of an experience in the members area. It can still be done. But the real money is that handful of affiliates and that handful of paysites. And really, that's the way it's always been. Even when all the "affiliates" that really aren't in my opinion were making what they thought was good money. It was never even close to what real good money is. But a lot of guys hopped in and discovered that they might could make a grand a week signing up for affiliate programs and basically throwing stuff against a wall to see if it sticks. The tubes and torrents have changed that. It just doesn't work anymore. That's why the guys with freesites that have been around for years and run clean and develop trust with surfers still make the sales and always will. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

08-22-2008, 09:19 AM	#51
Black_Widow So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 381	You don't make any money. How mache are you making with this shit? http://bobbyslist.com/ or this one http://barelylegalnexus.com/

08-22-2008, 08:29 PM	#63
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	Fraud by anyone is bad

08-22-2008, 08:35 PM	#64
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	So you make money hand over fist with these? http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849706-pussyservers-top-money-sites.html not being smart I'm just asking

08-22-2008, 09:23 PM	#71
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	Damn, let's quit being all serious and shit...back to the thread topic. We are all losers. There can be only one. And that one is pussyserver baby! A pimp of all pimps and my main man. Don't be haters. pussyserver is the true __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

08-22-2008, 10:01 PM	#79
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	That's the truth EmpireAutoPilot But sometimes you don't even need traffic if your niche is hot and very focused. Look at tony404 Mandy Blakes' site is very successful. He doesn't even have an affiliate program...though he does invite a handful of people to promote her. He doesn't really need affiliates. He has the product. BBW lovers WILL find what they like. Sometimes I wonder if it's a little like searching on Ebay for something. They seem to find Mandy Blake no matter what. Same thing with big tits. Claudia-Marie had a thousand members in the first couple of months we opened the doors last year. And she wasn't in the adult business in any way at all until we did that. Not even as a dancer. The afficiandos of these niches search high and low for what they like. We acheived success right out of the door by me sending a little traffic and then literally word of mouth spreading over big tit forums and chat rooms almost overnight. Now if you open a paysite with a bunch of content you bought feauturing the porn valley girls getting fucked by the porn valley guys, it's gonna be a lot tougher sale. There can be a niche there but not a specific focused thing. In that case it better be a great idea and theme and you better have a LOT of really good affiliates sending traffic. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com Last edited by Robbie; 08-22-2008 at 10:02 PM..

08-22-2008, 10:04 PM	#80
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	Hey by the way empire...you have some problems on your site. The includes aren't coming up. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

08-23-2008, 12:15 AM	#84
YellowDude Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Breda Posts: 1,031	You need good content tat make your affiliates happy __________________ John Bols Productions Email: jaj.lambregts @ gmail.com

08-23-2008, 03:31 AM	#85
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,556	First, a sponsor is starting a program to get webmaster traffic As soon they have it, they are going to find sticks to beat us webmasters down Most program owners were webmasters before, and they are owner cause they are sick of being a tool, ones they are a owner, they use tools to make us sick. A lot of owners are starting a program to make a future. They actually care about the webmasters, but also have a group of spammers, fakers, scammers, shitters... Those people who make his day bad also affect the group of true webmasters. etc etc etc bla bla bla Face it, when you start a program, you probably have a group of webmasters in your contact list to start with, those are probably the 5 % of the 100 who make good sales. You go public and know you get also this other shitty 95% in your list, you wished you never went public, cause you have suddenly a high expensive on the scamms and fuckers. You can TURN THIS ANYWAY you want, there is always a downside and upside. No matter what, you work with people, and people are tricking you, part of nature. There is a small group of webmasters who have MUCH TO LOOSE, they would not even think about using tricks, they put their good name in risk. I am an affiliate, send to 160 sponsors, and i have no fear, i do not use cards to get some PPS in my pocket cause i need to pay my rent. There are 100`s of guys like me, working their ass of to make a HONEST living, and those guys are also irritated by the behavior of many sponsors. We helped them with starting their program, and soon those owners are on shows selling our fucking traffic to other programs cause they want extra cash... Anyway, i gave up long ago trusting owners, i see them as a tool, a tool for me to make money with, i have the traffic, they DO NOT have my traffic, or get it in anyway. We need each other, if this is not a fact, then your probably having a different idea of making money. Reading how owners are making costs etc etc etc etc and I should be happy i dont have to pay for it, cause my earnings minus his costs would kill my revshare... Man thats just BULLSHIT... You can oversell your content as soon you have a fucking good marketing plan and KNOW how to find the best webmasters. Your movies are probably sold for 1000 times already when you have the Creme of the Creme traffic senders in your pocket. Anyway, i like how pussyserver stands up for affiliates in this topic, props for that. A guy like me never gets noticed, free tickets for a show, or a cristmas card. I only get holiday cards from VS, Secretfriends, and AFF.... __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here!

08-24-2008, 07:20 PM	#89
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZZZAD...eature=related

10-30-2008, 01:46 AM	#90
JaneB Guest Posts: n/a	Yes he is so rich he ahs to bitch about $65 on here. Haha.

10-30-2008, 02:02 AM	#92
jurar1 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: EUROPE Posts: 2,284	very funny __________________ http://porn.paydir.com - Affiliate Programs Directory for Webmasters Signups-M578 + 3M140=Rebills-710 MY BEST BDSM Affiliate Programm <<<<<MY BEST TEEN RATIO 1:47 FUCKING-CASH>>>>>

10-30-2008, 02:10 AM	#93
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,377	This thread is worthless __________________ http://DatingNetwork.com Telegram: @bakokaye

10-30-2008, 05:06 AM	#95
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Time to call: I ARE BATMAN!

10-31-2008, 02:56 AM	#97
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	pussyserver is a criminal - stealing from toy stores - and a broke nigga who couldnt even land a job at a hotel

10-31-2008, 04:25 AM	#100
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	__________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"