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Old 09-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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Anti Piracy solution found for online & dvds...made by Philips

Here is a good read for you. (it's just being launched by Philips)
It's like CSI forensics in codecs. Works ONLINE with videos but also with pressed DVDS

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...ome/index.page

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...ogy/index.page

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...cts/index.page

resulting in:
http://www.mediahedge.com/

Philips systems even spider ALL webpages on the net and report to the content owners that work with their system.....and tracking it down to to source where it orginated from.

Imagine that script being hooked up to www.removeyourcontent.com for example.

I was made aware of this by a friend who attended the presentation of the launch a month or so ago.

Now start buying more content from me since you CAN be saved now!!
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:33 PM   #2
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Features at a glance



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Robust and scalable solution for watermarking of content at consumer devices
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Applications such as broadcast PayTV, (Online) Video on Demand, Hotel TV
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Small watermarking implementation footprint
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No extra bandwidth required
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Survives camcorder copying (plugs the analogue hole!)
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No original content needed for detecting the watermark
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Philips Content Identification is independent and trusted supplier
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Philips' Video Fingerprinting system translates characteristic features extracted from the video file into a bit string called a fingerprint. Content is identified by comparing fingerprints of a video file received, for example over a peer-to-peer network, with the fingerprints of previously stored original video files in the database.





Philips' Video fingerprinting system enables users to automatically identify video by comparing unique 'fingerprints' extracted from the video with fingerprints in a specially compiled database. Fingerprint extraction occurs in a lightweight, client-side library.The database runs on a central server and comprises an advanced proprietary fingerprint search algorithm plus a database containing video fingerprints and metadata (identification data).
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CineFence is our unrivaled watermarking solution especially developed for a digital cinema environment. It is able to link camcorder-captured movies back to the cinema where the camcording occurred. CineFence is available in both video and audio applications that fully meet the forensic marking requirement of the Digital Cinema System Specification V1.0.
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CompoManager is the central interface between the Philips' CompoTrack powered products and detection components. During the embedding process, the payload (the unique watermark) is automatically generated and together with its corresponding metadata stored in the CompoManager database. This is a secure SQL database. When a payload is later detected in pirated content, this value can be looked up within CompoManager and the relevant metadata can be found within seconds.

CompoTrack Baseband comprises real-time watermarking embedding and detection hardware that inserts identifying data directly into the video streams at the actual time of production or distribution. This version is ideal for SDI and analogue embedding and is especially designed for easy integration into production, post-production and mastering equipment. CompoTrack Baseband is available for both standard definition and high definition video content.

CompoTrack MPEG is a watermarking Software Development Kit (‘SDK’) for embedding and detecting watermarks in MPEG-formatted high definition or standard definition video content. The embedder library allows for insertion of identifying data directly into elementary or program MPEG streams, or directly into VOB files or ISO 9660 images. CompoTrack MPEG is the ultimate solution for watermarking video content before it is sent out through VOD (Video On Demand) channels.

CompoTrack WAV is our audio watermarking software product that directly embeds in WAV audio content. The product has an API interface (‘DLL’) and runs on an MS-Windows operating platform. This version delivers up to 40x real-time embedding operations and can be used for rights protection, tracking and monitoring.
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MediaHedge content identification and monetization services

Philips MediaHedge provides Content identification and monetization services across the whole media industry, helping content owners to protect, manage and monetize their valuable assets, and helping content distributors to enjoy video sharing features without risking legal action because of copyright infringement. The services utilize patented content Identification technologies such as fingerprinting and a growing reference database of copyrighted digital media fingerprints.
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Very interesting. Ill research it some more. Using something similar with our streaming vids, but the being able to spider the web for stolen content is very very interesting.
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Mediahedge allows media content owners - such as movie and TV studios, broadcast networks, and (semi) professionals - to secure their content, understand how it is being used and profit from its distribution through content identification, management and monetization services.

Register and secure your content
The internet and social networks have become major distributors of copyrighted video and audio content. This may be good for promotional purposes, but how can you ensure you are profiting from this too? By registering your media content in the Mediahedge global database you can secure your content better by allowing us to generate fingerprints from your media content and keep these in our central database. With our media crawling and media recognition service, we can then compare fingerprints on the web with the fingerprints in our central database. If there is a match, your specified business rules with the media content distributors are applied, like ‘publication prohibited’, ‘allowed to publish’, ‘allowed when surcharge paid’, ‘allowed when ad revenue shared’, or any other pre-agreed business model between you and the content distributor.

Monitor your media content
Your content could be appearing anywhere on the internet. Hopefully its only available on sites where you have an agreement with the content distributors, but how do you know if its also available elsewhere without your permission? It can be very difficult to get a good overview of where and when your content is published, but our reporting service provides you with the content visibility and tools you need to get accurate information. By knowing more about who is using your content you can enhance your content offering to better meet market demand, and therefore draw larger crowds. You can also approach the sites who use your content for a revenue share deal around your content.

Monetize your content
Mediahedge is a strong believer in monetizing media content rather than simply restricting it from view. We have therefore developed various tools to help you get more value from your content, by knowing where, when and how it is used.
The Media management service also allows you to apply intelligent business rules to each item of your content found on the web and can assist you in creating new revenue streams through new partnerships, targetted advertising, increased traffic to your site and more...

The possibilities are infinite, which is the main reason that with Mediahedge, content owners retain full control over their valuable content and related fingerprints - rather than allowing third parties to control them. In addition, you are able to assign user-rights to each of your individual fingerprints, giving you even more flexibility.
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Mediahedge empowers internet communities, audio/video sharing sites, Peer-to-Peer (P2P), and other content distributors to automatically scan media files, determine their appropriate use and to apply business rules to user-posted content and other media content

Register and manage media content
As a major distributor of video and audio content you may wish to better identify and manage the media content uploaded or distributed via your website or network. With the Media Registration service you can fingerprint all media content uploaded or distributed via your website or network. These fingerprints will be stored in a central database and can be used as a reference for new media that is uploaded to your site. In this way you can avoid duplication of media content which saves you bandwidth and storage costs. It can also be used to avoid certain media - that you do not want shown on your site (identified as obscure or any other reason) - being uploaded twice.

Manage copyrighted content
Legitimate business models require control over uploaded copyrighted content. Mediahedge offers you a comprehensive, cost-effective and scalable method for pre-screening content before it goes live, helping you to avoid liability to content companies. After all, most content owners would like to see prevention of piracy instead of their media being taken down entirely. The Media Recognition service can automatically verify media content and retrieve user rights from the rightful content owner. Such rights may vary from ‘publication prohibited’, ‘allowed to publish’, ‘allowed when surcharge paid’, ‘allowed when ad revenue shared’, or any other pre-agreed business model between you and the content owner.

Monetize the media content on your website or P2P network
Mediahedge is a strong supporter in the monetization of media content rather than simply restricting users from copying content. Our Media Management tools like assigning business rules to each item of content have been developed to support win/win situations, whereby you can keep popular media content on your site and still keep your consumers, advertisers and content partners happy. By identifying the media content on your site you can offer more targeted advertising at higher rates, whilst giving content owners a share in the advertising revenues made around their content. You could also place links back to the content owner’s site, increasing your own search-engine ranking, and helping the content owners to further optimize their content offering. Also, by building a stronger relationship with the media companies you might get earlier access to premium content than you would otherwise.
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Mediahedge offers a powerful solution to electronically search and recognize unmarked media content wherever it is, whatever the format and irrespective of any metadata. The service enables automated searches on millions of web sources, ranging from blogs and chat rooms, through to user generated content, social networking sites and P2P networks. Key features:

* The system is entirely automatic and will run 24/7.
* Crawling engine constantly scans Internet for videos based on agreed keywords in multiple languages.
* Searches cover media hosting sites and suspect links from blog sites, e.g. links to cyber lockers, streaming server.
* Suspect media is downloaded and captured (format independent).
* Media is analyzed and checked against Central Media database. Matches are returned within seconds.
* In case of a match a notification email or another type of action can be applied to those websites or networks.

The great advantage of Media Search is that the website or P2P network does not have to have installed the Media Detector, (part of Media Recognition service); it can basically scan the entire web to search and identify media content. However, with Media Search it is not possible to prevent the content from going live, or to assign a business rule to the content as this requires the Media Recognition service.

Another interesting application of Media Search is that it can also be used for search optimization, for example it allows you to optimally search in large media archives to effectively find the content you were looking for without a need for any metadata.
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Even though Mediahedge is primarily targeted at content owners and content distributors on the web, there are many other potential users, uses and platforms.

More and more platforms are becoming internet enabled - such as IPTV and mobile devices – and these are also used for consuming and generating media content. Mediahedge products and services can be used for all of these devices. For example, our technology is also used by Teletrax and NBDS for broadcast monitoring and Gracenote uses it for music identification on mobile phones.

Mediahedge’s platform is continuously under development and so far these other application areas have been identified:

* Market research companies
* Interactive advertising agencies
* Search engines/search optimization
* Toy companies
* Internet Service Providers
* IPTV companies
* Mobile operators
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Mediahedge offers a powerful solution to electronically search and recognize unmarked media content wherever it is, whatever the format and irrespective of any metadata. The service enables automated searches on millions of web sources, ranging from blogs and chat rooms, through to user generated content, social networking sites and P2P networks. Key features:

* The system is entirely automatic and will run 24/7.
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* Suspect media is downloaded and captured (format independent).
* Media is analyzed and checked against Central Media database. Matches are returned within seconds.
* In case of a match a notification email or another type of action can be applied to those websites or networks.
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Very interesting. Ill research it some more. Using something similar with our streaming vids, but the being able to spider the web for stolen content is very very interesting.
I know, the spidering, database, reporting for dvd, websites, p2p, mobile, etc IS THE SHIT.
drm sucks but this is different, no drm or consumer unfriendly shit, just reporting the thieves to the owners (that cannot visit 1 billion pages & p2p's every day)
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Survives camcorder copying (plugs the analogue hole!)

The analogue hole? What does that mean?
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I give it a month before there's a way around it.
Philips puts it in the movie itself (so not just an "overlay").
You can cut it into 30 pieces, crop it, give it a different colour, edit the movie, change it ti any format like wmv, flv, avi, mpg, etc........
and it will STILL BE THERE. I know, it sounds amazing. The guy that went to the presentation at Philips could not believe his eyes & ears.
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Survives camcorder copying (plugs the analogue hole!)

The analogue hole? What does that mean?
The techonoly is IN the movie itself.
So if the cinema shows a movie that was ONCE gone thru the Philips system and you were to record it in the cinema just sitting in your chair with your camcorder the signal would still be in the movie ON YOUR camcorder, unlike drm which you can strip off
there is NO connection between the big cinema screen and your camcorder; no cable, no pc, nothing.
Philips has some smart guys working on it for years I guess.
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Interesting..Sadly, it's only a matter of time until some douchebag cracks this technology.
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This sound too good but i can't imagine how can survive converting, cutting, etc...
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I've bought Philips DVD players for nearly 8 years now because it takes a whole 5 buttons pressed in sequence to make it a "Region 0" player, and it will automatically resample PAL to NTSC.

Take that as you will.
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The techonoly is IN the movie itself.
So if the cinema shows a movie that was ONCE gone thru the Philips system and you were to record it in the cinema just sitting in your chair with your camcorder the signal would still be in the movie ON YOUR camcorder, unlike drm which you can strip off
there is NO connection between the big cinema screen and your camcorder; no cable, no pc, nothing.
Philips has some smart guys working on it for years I guess.
With signal you mean a sound signal or what? Sorry i feel stupid but i really dont see how it will go in your camcorder.
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Interesting..Sadly, it's only a matter of time until some douchebag cracks this technology.
in order to remove, all Philips puts in the movie, the movie would be so damaged without it that it would be worthless to watch the movie

"The techonoly is IN the movie itself.
So if the cinema shows a movie that was ONCE gone thru the Philips system and you were to record it in the cinema just sitting in your chair with your camcorder the signal would still be in the movie ON YOUR camcorder, unlike drm which you can strip off
there is NO connection between the big cinema screen and your camcorder; no cable, no pc, nothing"

"Philips puts it in the movie itself (so not just an "overlay").
You can cut it into 30 pieces, crop it, give it a different colour, edit the movie, change it ti any format like wmv, flv, avi, mpg, etc........
and it will STILL BE THERE. I know, it sounds amazing. The guy that went to the presentation at Philips could not believe his eyes & ears."
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With signal you mean a sound signal or what? Sorry i feel stupid but i really dont see how it will go in your camcorder.
It's integrated into the movie itself (not a signal or sound). Details I don't know because thats their big secret. It just works.
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interesting...maybe some code in a wavelength that doesnt display on our monitors...always present the same thing
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My guess is that it's something very simple and a lot more compatible, such as an underlying MPEG4 filter which has 100% transparency, but alters the video stream in such a way that is noticable, even when encoding due to the pattern shift below the displayed image.

There's only so many ways to hide something that will survive an analog copy.
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This sound too good but i can't imagine how can survive converting, cutting, etc...
In short:

If the movie HAS the Philips tech in it (wether the source is TV, cinema, dvd, online movie, etc.) you could copy it, record it with a cam, then copy it to dvd, put it back on VHS, copy it to DV, make an avi/mpg/flv/whatever from that, resize it from 640x480 to 320x240, then cut it into 3 minute clips, add effects & chomakey, edit the sound, change the colour s & gamma...and ITS still in the movie...and being spidered 24/7 across the net & P2P by huge amounts of servers that report all in a database that reports to the owners where an illegal movie is used and where now and thru who and where it originated from (sources)
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interesting...maybe some code in a wavelength that doesnt display on our monitors...always present the same thing
nop, totally different
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My guess is that it's something very simple and a lot more compatible, such as an underlying MPEG4 filter which has 100% transparency, but alters the video stream in such a way that is noticable, even when encoding due to the pattern shift below the displayed image.

There's only so many ways to hide something that will survive an analog copy.
To me it sounded more like a real innovative technology.
But 500 years ago people believed the earth was flat,
it turned out it was not. Maybe they found a way nobody thought of yet if it survives an analog copy.
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Maybe they found a way nobody thought of yet if it survives an analog copy.
That, and a $200 wooden knob will increase the analog tremble in digital audio. A lot of it is still smoke and mirrors. I'll believe it when I have a copy that I can play with. It's obviously some MUXing that can leave a footprint.. the only question is if it's using a stream (like NTFS has the ability to store multiple versions of a file in a single file), or how it's implemented. For 10 geeks working on a corporate project, there's a drunken Finn to fuck up their plans.
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That, and a $200 wooden knob will increase the analog tremble in digital audio. A lot of it is still smoke and mirrors. I'll believe it when I have a copy that I can play with. It's obviously some MUXing that can leave a footprint.. the only question is if it's using a stream (like NTFS has the ability to store multiple versions of a file in a single file), or how it's implemented. For 10 geeks working on a corporate project, there's a drunken Finn to fuck up their plans.
Here are the whitepapers:
http://www.business-sites.philips.co...ng_5-13507.pdf

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...rack-13905.pdf
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Oh. This is nothing new. They claim it's not DRM, which technically it isn't since you can copy it, but it will identify where/when the stream came from. The trick is in the initial copy; that I juts don't know since these marking PDFs are obviously intentionally ambiguous.

I'll be interested to see it develop.
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:22 AM   #37
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I recall it being a per minute rate (depending on lenght of the movie) and I recall in being not expensive. I'll ask around
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:37 AM   #38
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doesn't help us - we all know the sites that steal the content and nobody does anything about it other than a DMCA takedown notice - yeah those really get the tube site owners shaking in their boots 'OMFG WE ARE GOING FUCKING DOWN WE JUST GOT A DMCA COMPLAINT FROM DOPEYCASH!!! WHERE ARE THE CYANIDE PILLS!?!?!''
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:45 AM   #39
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sony had unbreakable cd protection until a kid figured out (in 1 week) that he could defeat it with a black magic marker...
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:49 AM   #40
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Interesting read, thanks.
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:45 AM   #41
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sony had unbreakable cd protection until a kid figured out (in 1 week) that he could defeat it with a black magic marker...
That was a personal favorite.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:32 AM   #42
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It will be hacked, too...
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:36 AM   #43
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sony had unbreakable cd protection until a kid figured out (in 1 week) that he could defeat it with a black magic marker...
Yep

as long as they release it, people will break it
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Didn't people say Macrovision was unhackable? And DVD encryption? And Blu Ray?
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:33 AM   #45
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They've had this sort of thing on images for years. I guess it only makes sense for it to be in video now as well...
But yeah, there can be a work around for it, since the mark is detectable, it can also be altered. Just need to run an application on the video to search/destroy. The concept is great, but hackers won't stand for it.
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:03 AM   #47
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Sounds good. Too bad it will be defeated in a matter of weeks or less.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:18 AM   #48
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They've had this sort of thing on images for years. I guess it only makes sense for it to be in video now as well...
But yeah, there can be a work around for it, since the mark is detectable, it can also be altered. Just need to run an application on the video to search/destroy. The concept is great, but hackers won't stand for it.
The point isn't to stop hackers, though.

It doesn't matter if it can be circumvented. If it doesn't stop people from watching it, most are too lazy to disable it if that takes more than 20 seconds.
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Even if it's hackable, which I don't think because its not based on such technology, it's still fingerprinted therefore traceable,due to spidering, WHERE it's being used so the owners can check if that is a licensed site or not.
So the owner is updated fully automated on every site/p2p where his content is exactly.
It's up to the owner to act if he finds something that is not right.
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