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Old 11-21-2008, 12:48 AM   #1
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:mad Hey!!! Who runs sexofree.org ??? Step inside ASAP! :(

Thank you for stealing my galleries and driving huge amount of worthless freeloader traffic to them. This is really very kind from you.

http://www.sexofree.org/

Full of stolen unique galleries... Look at the main page / niche pages.

http://whois.domaintools.com/sexofree.org

Visitors by Country:
Mexico Mexico 23.2%
Spain Spain 19.5%
Argentina Argentina 10.1%
Colombia Colombia 8.9%
Venezuela Venezuela 7.9%
Chile Chile 5.3%

Thanks motherfucker!!!
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:59 AM   #2
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Probably whoever runs is, does not hang out here :-|

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:01 AM   #3
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:03 AM   #4
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A simple .htaccess redirection takes care of that.
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Probably whoever runs is, does not hang out here :-|

Bump for you
This is not a small splif but a huge blunt, ~4k @ Alexa, this is why I thought maybe someone knows the owner or he hangs out here...

I asked MojoHost to block these countries plus China/Brazil but these blocks caused my server to become unreliable and after several meltdowns we decided to remove the block. Instead of a list of countries to block they asked me to provide a list of countries which are allowed... As that could be shorter... If anyone has a list I need for this project please send me asap... Yes, this list starts with US/CA/UK...
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:10 AM   #6
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A simple .htaccess redirection takes care of that.
"nginx doesn't read htaccess files, and a block this long would cause problems for its configs. There are almost 30,000 entries to block the requested countries"

(answer from Mojo)
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"nginx doesn't read htaccess files, and a block this long would cause problems for its configs. There are almost 30,000 entries to block the requested countries"

(answer from Mojo)
I was talking about redirecting by domain, not by countries.

Use the code bellow in your root .htaccess file and send those bastards to wherever you want.

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RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} sexofree\.org [NC]
RewriteRule .* http://www.sendthemhere.com/ [R=301,L]
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He's Spanish I believe, and is only using the site to promote his program: http://www.micropagosx.com/ where they sell stuff via SMS. He makes money off his own program.

It is about alexa rank 400 in my country and has been around for years apparently, yet I had never ever seen it :-|

Spanish speaking market is extremely under exploited and unregulated, really crappy sites are incredibly famous and despite people lacking knowledge in many useful things for the net, they are very familiar with the shady stuff even if they don't speak English to use THAT torrent program.

We're in 2002 as far as construction and design, but we've been in 2008 for piracy for many years now :-|

Best of luck with this go with what Jarmusch says!

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:21 AM   #9
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I was talking about redirecting by domain, not by countries.

Use the code bellow in your root .htaccess file and send those bastards to wherever you want.

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RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} sexofree\.org [NC]
RewriteRule .* http://www.sendthemhere.com/ [R=301,L]
Thanks, but I have nginx running on my server and it has an own "policy" and does not use .htaccess [I admit I am a noob about this theme - this is why I go for managed hosting]
But I appreciate your help a lot! ;)

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He's Spanish I believe, and is only using the site to promote his program: http://www.micropagosx.com/ where they sell stuff via SMS. He makes money off his own program.

It is about alexa rank 400 in my country and has been around for years apparently, yet I had never ever seen it :-|

Spanish speaking market is extremely under exploited and unregulated, really crappy sites are incredibly famous and despite people lacking knowledge in many useful things for the net, they are very familiar with the shady stuff even if they don't speak English to use THAT torrent program.

We're in 2002 as far as construction and design, but we've been in 2008 for piracy for many years now :-|

Best of luck with this go with what Jarmusch says!
Thanks for the input, I am trying to contact them right now (it seems that they're asleep)...
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:48 AM   #12
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:15 AM   #15
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they haven't responded yet, but my galleries disappeared from the site.
I just checked with statcounter and it reports only a few hits probably from bookmarks..
Hooray!
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I think you should have redirected the trafic to a galleryhup with PPC or Freejoins instead, or even a Hosted TGP.

ALL traffic can be converted, and its downright stupid to turn a free trafficsouce down
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I think you should have redirected the trafic to a galleryhup with PPC or Freejoins instead, or even a Hosted TGP.

ALL traffic can be converted, and its downright stupid to turn a free trafficsouce down
Yes, probably it can be converted, but: I usually don't do business with thieves and taking care of this is not my job, I've already lost too much time because of these supercool guys...
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Yes, probably it can be converted, but: I usually don't do business with thieves and taking care of this is not my job, I've already lost too much time because of these supercool guys...
He is not a thief - he sends you free traffic

All you had to do was add 5 lines of text to your .htaccess and redirect it either to a Hosted TGP or one of the many companies that buy traffic.

That way you could had turned the free massive traffic in to instant cash.

Instead you closed down a traffic source

.. its really not smart business

At least think of that next time it happens
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He is not a thief - he sends you free traffic

All you had to do was add 5 lines of text to your .htaccess and redirect it either to a Hosted TGP or one of the many companies that buy traffic.

That way you could had turned the free massive traffic in to instant cash.

Instead you closed down a traffic source

.. its really not smart business

At least think of that next time it happens
He cant beacuse his httpd server doesnt support htaccess.Read the thread fucker.
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He cant beacuse his httpd server doesnt support htaccess.Read the thread fucker.
Then you use a PhP script or configure it in the server itself.

Its not like there arent solutions to track and redirect referer hits based on domain.


Go play in the contest topics idiot
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He is not a thief - he sends you free traffic

All you had to do was add 5 lines of text to your .htaccess and redirect it either to a Hosted TGP or one of the many companies that buy traffic.

That way you could had turned the free massive traffic in to instant cash.

Instead you closed down a traffic source

.. its really not smart business

At least think of that next time it happens
I understand what you say, but you know I just want to do my work and finish my projects and live my life and don't want to waste time for issues like this and find out something how can I get any money out of the situation.

If the owner of this site would think I can make any money on this he would ask me for a gallery list, anybody can get my contact with maximum 3 clicks from a gallery...

And YES, this is theft in my opinion as I was never asked if I want this or whatever.

Even if he removed my galleries that site is FULL of probably stolen unique galleries and he is most likely making money on other ads and uses our bandwidth (without permission) to attract visitors to his site.

The owner of this site made me extra expense because of the bandwidth his visitors burned during weeks/months of usage, my recently my server became unreliable because of not wanted traffic [i spend valuable hours to get these resolved...] and made me unhappy and be able to work less on my important, honest money making projects and daily tasks.
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I understand what you say, but you know I just want to do my work and finish my projects and live my life and don't want to waste time for issues like this and find out something how can I get any money out of the situation.

If the owner of this site would think I can make any money on this he would ask me for a gallery list, anybody can get my contact with maximum 3 clicks from a gallery...

And YES, this is theft in my opinion as I was never asked if I want this or whatever.

Even if he removed my galleries that site is FULL of probably stolen unique galleries and he is most likely making money on other ads and uses our bandwidth (without permission) to attract visitors to his site.

The owner of this site made me extra expense because of the bandwidth his visitors burned during weeks/months of usage, my recently my server became unreliable because of not wanted traffic [i spend valuable hours to get these resolved...] and made me unhappy and be able to work less on my important, honest money making projects and daily tasks.

why dont you complain about google while you are at it?... they proberly list you as well and send traffic to your sites you never asked for... jesus christ!!
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Sending traffic to a site is not theft and you should see it as an opportunity. Ebus is 100% right.
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why dont you complain about google while you are at it?... they proberly list you as well and send traffic to your sites you never asked for... jesus christ!!
Are you kidding? This traffic I got has nothing to do with the quality of Google's traffic.
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agreed with ebus, u should probably sell that traffic using a referral script or something to traffic brokers. this way u get free $$$
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But that traffic would be all useless, from "low quality" countries, and then HE would be labelled a thief!

This is the same set up than that of a tube, using other people's stuff to upsell cams, dating, games and cell phone goodies, however, he is not stealing content per se, just bandwidth, because he KNOWS, that no one is looking to join a paysite...
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But that traffic would be all useless, from "low quality" countries, and then HE would be labelled a thief!

This is the same set up than that of a tube, using other people's stuff to upsell cams, dating, games and cell phone goodies, however, he is not stealing content per se, just bandwidth, because he KNOWS, that no one is looking to join a paysite...
It's CLICKED traffic !!! - that is VALUABLE traffic for gods sake. Just because you dont know how to convert it, dont make it useless.
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Your going to make alot of hosting providers drool in this thread...
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But that traffic would be all useless, from "low quality" countries, and then HE would be labelled a thief!

This is the same set up than that of a tube, using other people's stuff to upsell cams, dating, games and cell phone goodies, however, he is not stealing content per se, just bandwidth, because he KNOWS, that no one is looking to join a paysite...
I was thinking to mention the tubes, thanks.

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Your going to make alot of hosting providers drool in this thread...
I don't care, I am addicted to my MojoHost server, I will stay no matter what happens ;)

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It's CLICKED traffic !!! - that is VALUABLE traffic for gods sake. Just because you dont know how to convert it, dont make it useless.
Maybe its valuable if you're prepared for it and if you're an expert of what to do with it. I didnt want it. It was harmful to me. I hate to take care of annoying situations like this. Believe me: I've lost more than I could make. My time is golden ;)

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should have redirected it to spanish friend finder and made some $ off it.
I know now, but I don't care to be honest. And personally I dont like AFF...
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.... Seriously?

Remind me not to link to anything of yours, I maybe labeled a thief. And it's a shame, looking at your tgp's there's a few I could trade with...
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Remind me not to link to anything of yours, I maybe labeled a thief. And it's a shame, looking at your tgp's there's a few I could trade with...
Do you think I would start a thread like this if anyone with not full crap traffic is linking to my galleries?

I doubt any of you read this thread not just the first post(s). Next time please take the time to read before you post some words only to have your sigs here as well.
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You fucking dumb shit. ALL real human traffic has value. Since you never submitted anything to him or traded any links, you can do whatever you want with the traffic he sends you with no fear of repurcusions. Direct it to a full page ad, straight to a tour, to a foreign language tour, to a page full of traffic trades, to a dialer, to an install... There's some way you could make money from it, instead of just coming here and whinging.
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Sorry but this is not theft, anyone that has been a webmaster for more than 3 months can understand this
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Do you think I would start a thread like this if anyone with not full crap traffic is linking to my galleries?

I doubt any of you read this thread not just the first post(s). Next time please take the time to read before you post some words only to have your sigs here as well.
Have you seen my signature you stupid fuck, theres nothing worth "trying to get it seen", and yes, I did read the whole thread, and still try to comprehend your complete stupidity shown here...
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:20 AM   #46
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Should I help him out or what? Well.... nah.. nevermind, he thinks the traffic is crap... I say it's gold.. damn if only I could pass through 80mb/sec of traffic through some of my sites, that would be fucking awesome.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:04 PM   #47
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You fucking dumb shit. ALL real human traffic has value. Since you never submitted anything to him or traded any links, you can do whatever you want with the traffic he sends you with no fear of repurcusions. Direct it to a full page ad, straight to a tour, to a foreign language tour, to a page full of traffic trades, to a dialer, to an install... There's some way you could make money from it, instead of just coming here and whinging.
However we don't know each other (yet) I kindly ask you to please be a little more polite and don't call me a fucking dumb shit. I admit my style was not too friendly and I apologize for this, but I just want to do my work and really don't want this headache. Below I will let you know why I think this issue is purely bad to me.

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Sorry but this is not theft, anyone that has been a webmaster for more than 3 months can understand this
While reading/searching the boards in this year I've seen similar situations and none of the webmasters were happy about this. I consider this a theft because of what I already wrote before: tgp owner haven't contacted me to ask for my galleries if I agree or not that he'll use 'em. The cause of this is that he knows his traffic very well and knows that I will barely make any sales with his traffic, but I will have a huge hosting bill. I didnt have the chance to decide if I want this or not.

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Have you seen my signature you stupid fuck, theres nothing worth "trying to get it seen", and yes, I did read the whole thread, and still try to comprehend your complete stupidity shown here...
Josh, I admit I love your sig, I've seen the thread where someone (maybe you) posted the whole video, its fun But I have to ask you to please avoid judging me, either because I am a friendly and good guy and also because of what I will write below describing why I think this is a bad deal for me.

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Should I help him out or what? Well.... nah.. nevermind, he thinks the traffic is crap... I say it's gold.. damn if only I could pass through 80mb/sec of traffic through some of my sites, that would be fucking awesome.
Haha! Don't think that my traffic is high because of this shit. Absolutely not My traffic and biz is constantly growing because of my hard work. I didn't notice in time that with the "natural" grow of my traffic included some hotlinking and this kind of unauthorized bw usage as well.

And now the conclusions after some days:

To be honest, I was not prepared for this situation. I had no clue what to do in a case like this, and thanks for all who posted some ideas how a traffic source like this can be used, I learned a lot and will definitely use a suggestion posted above next time this occurs. Maybe I am not a smart webmaster, but you know: I didn't need any special knowledge about traffic simply because I have almost zero traffic of mine: 99% of my traffic is from other TGPs where my galleries are posted. I only use my own natural 404 traffic to feed a TGP of mine...

I tell you why I think none of the solutions above can make my money back: lets say I redirect the traffic immediately when I notice to spanish AFF or any good, probably converting place: what do you think, for how long I will have this traffic? Max some days... Site owners are warned my surfers or they notice themselves in some hours/days when they are hunting my newer galleries (with all the other wm's stuff) and they remove all my shit thus the good and probably converting traffic is gone. So my traffic was leached for weeks/months and I could use it to make a little money back for some hours, max some days... I doubt this is good biz...

I don't refuse to learn from people who are smarter than me so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this one or any other part, but please be a little more polite as maybe I am a noob or stupid but I am "benevolent". I treat everyone the same way I want them to treat me. You can ask anybody I made business with that I was never rude to anyone and I expect the same, even on GFY [maybe I am naive...]
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:13 PM   #48
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Your going to make alot of hosting providers drool in this thread...
yeah, 80 megs is a shitload of bandwidth...
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:16 PM   #49
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dont know if this helps, his icq was posted on the site... 131022009
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:19 PM   #50
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damn that sucks =\
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