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frank7799 · 11-24-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

The thing that really pissed me off is, I'm clean. They found nothing illegal, not even close. Yet I was still put into the computer system to make future returns a pain in the ass for me.

They want to see regularly updates of your content. So they put you on the list of interesting content people and can examine the updates every time you´ll step by.

The Ghost · 11-24-2008, 03:24 AM

Damn man that sounds awful, but hopefully you'll have a good Thanksgiving.

DWB · 11-24-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RevengeBucks_Monica

From my own experience, I've found most border people to be quite friendly. They tend to get treated very poorly as people in general don't like them, so if you are nice and chat, they sometimes relax and act quite nice to you. I've had a few that were a little uppity though.

You are correct. I've NEVER had issues at any border other than in the USA. Usually it's smooth sailing. This is not the first time I've had issues with them, but this was the first time I had a ton of porn on me.

_Richard_ · 11-24-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ron depressed? Not the times I've met him. lol

haha after 3 hours of questioning on how pretty pornstars really are, i'd be depressed too

pornguy · 11-24-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I wouldn't be so sure that this is just a USA issue. You could very well have received the same treatment or even worse if you were carrying all that porn into many other countries including Canada and many European countries or even the third world hellhole that you came from, Thailand. At least they didn't confiscate the material. Not sure if you had left backups at home, but that could have been a disaster!

He would have spent at least 30 days in jail in Mexico waiting on them to decide if it was worth holding him for.

The Judge · 11-24-2008, 03:49 PM

Deleting shit wont help you:

"What's happening is that the Windows operating system's memory management leaves data all over the place in the normal course of operations. For example, you'll type a password into a program, and it gets stored in memory somewhere. Windows swaps the page out to disk, and it becomes the tail end of some file. It gets moved to some far out portion of your hard drive, and there it'll sit forever. Linux and Mac OS aren't any better in this regard. "

Phoenix · 11-24-2008, 03:52 PM

im flagged too..they know all about the pron

DWB · 11-24-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

He would have spent at least 30 days in jail in Mexico waiting on them to decide if it was worth holding him for.

Yea, and in China I'd be in prison for 7 tears. Cuba 10 years. In Laos they could execute me. What's your point?

What is it with you Americans talking about how bad something could be in Mexico?

There are plenty of other countries out there that are a shit load worse than Mexico.

DWB · 11-24-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

im flagged too..they know all about the pron

Cool. Lets meet up in the Flagged Lounge next time.

Ethersync · 11-24-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

got a link for that?

I think this is it....
http://twit.tv/163

MaDalton · 11-24-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I wouldn't be so sure that this is just a USA issue. You could very well have received the same treatment or even worse if you were carrying all that porn into many other countries including Canada and many European countries or even the third world hellhole that you came from, Thailand. At least they didn't confiscate the material. Not sure if you had left backups at home, but that could have been a disaster!

i can't say anything about Canada or Thailand, but i swear something like that will not happen in any european country. have you ever been over here, Jim? if not - ask anyone from the US who travelled to Webmaster Access Amsterdam for example. And how they got treated at immigration. The ONLY thing (besides the usual things like drugs or weapons) that can happen is paying tax if you went shopping too much and "forgot" to declare it (or didn't throw away all bills). but besides "anything to declare?" you will not hear anything else than "welcome, sir" at any european border

a friend also always gets the "SSSS" on his tickets and I had the pleasure already too - entering the US today is like entering the former eastern Germany or Russia in the 1970ies

Ethersync · 11-24-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

I think this is it....
http://twit.tv/163

Listening to Kevin Mitnick talk about his experience at the border is really interesting. Scary stuff for those in this business...

Elli · 11-24-2008, 06:05 PM

Sorry to hear about your experience, DWB. I agree about the US Customs cops being the worst I've ever dealt with.

Hell, I've seen them tear apart a minivan with a family in it just because the driver (father) failed to tell them about the "Fruit" in his kid's snacks. They were in that waiting room for over an hour with screaming toddlers while they're van got searched. They finally got sent away with a warning to "declare all fruits or else". This was at the Peach Arch crossing into Washington state!

CaptainHowdy · 11-24-2008, 07:46 PM

Lucky custom agents... damm...

DWB · 11-25-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i can't say anything about Canada or Thailand, but i swear something like that will not happen in any european country. have you ever been over here, Jim? if not - ask anyone from the US who travelled to Webmaster Access Amsterdam for example. And how they got treated at immigration. The ONLY thing (besides the usual things like drugs or weapons) that can happen is paying tax if you went shopping too much and "forgot" to declare it (or didn't throw away all bills). but besides "anything to declare?" you will not hear anything else than "welcome, sir" at any european border

a friend also always gets the "SSSS" on his tickets and I had the pleasure already too - entering the US today is like entering the former eastern Germany or Russia in the 1970ies

Never a problem anywhere in Europe.

I'm not just picking on the USA here but it honestly is the most unfriendly country I have ever entered in my life. I feel like a criminal sometimes when I enter just based on how they treat me, a US passport holder.

If they want to hassle people they need to hassle NON Americans coming from countries that are anti-American or harbor terrorists. But that would be "racial profiling" and we can't have that. It's much easier to hassle their own.

sandman! · 11-25-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Judge

Deleting shit wont help you:

"What's happening is that the Windows operating system's memory management leaves data all over the place in the normal course of operations. For example, you'll type a password into a program, and it gets stored in memory somewhere. Windows swaps the page out to disk, and it becomes the tail end of some file. It gets moved to some far out portion of your hard drive, and there it'll sit forever. Linux and Mac OS aren't any better in this regard. "

you have no idea about computer security this is an easy problem to fix.

starpimps · 11-25-2008, 12:18 AM

canadian customs agents are also a bunch of cock sucking asstards.

Myst · 11-25-2008, 12:26 AM

is it legal for them to go through your stuff (on harddrives or laptops) if you had it in in luggage as opposed to carry-on?

moeloubani · 11-25-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

is it legal for them to go through your stuff (on harddrives or laptops) if you had it in in luggage as opposed to carry-on?

i think they can just do anything they want, which kind of sucks

i hear if they go through your car they literally tear it apart and when all is said and done even if they find nothing youre just left with a fucked up car

but i dont travel outside of canada, at least i havent yet and i never plan on going to the US

Jim_Gunn · 11-25-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i can't say anything about Canada or Thailand, but i swear something like that will not happen in any european country. have you ever been over here, Jim? if not - ask anyone from the US who travelled to Webmaster Access Amsterdam for example. And how they got treated at immigration. The ONLY thing (besides the usual things like drugs or weapons) that can happen is paying tax if you went shopping too much and "forgot" to declare it (or didn't throw away all bills). but besides "anything to declare?" you will not hear anything else than "welcome, sir" at any european border

I haven't been to Europe in a long, long time, but come on- forty DVDs worth of porn content? Even the most liberal European customs agent would have to at least check it out to see if it was kiddie porn. That's exactly what they did to DWB here in American customs. Now their poor attitude and the part about red flagging him is another story, but of course those things are part of DWBs perception. Who knows if they actually did red flag him or just said that to scare him. It does stand to reason that part of a customs agent's job would be to screen against someone smuggling in thousands of child pornography images or videos, and a guy like DWB (or you or me for that matter) crossing international borders carrying that much porn is awfully suspicious. I think the customs agents did their job. As nerve wracking as it must have been for him, what should they have done, sent him on through with 40 DVDs worth of porn without at least making sure that he wasn't smuggling fresh c.p. material?

kahell · 11-25-2008, 12:55 AM

can they look at files in your laptop that invasion of privacy right?

DWB · 11-25-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I haven't been to Europe in a long, long time, but come on- forty DVDs worth of porn content? Even the most liberal European customs agent would have to at least check it out to see if it was kiddie porn. That's exactly what they did to DWB here in American customs. Now their poor attitude and the part about red flagging him is another story, but of course those things are part of DWBs perception.

Who knows if they actually did red flag him or just said that to scare him. It does stand to reason that part of a customs agent's job would be to screen against someone smuggling in thousands of child pornography images or videos, and a guy like DWB (or you or me for that matter) crossing international borders carrying that much porn is awfully suspicious. I think the customs agents did their job.

As nerve wracking as it must have been for him, what should they have done, sent him on through with 40 DVDs worth of porn without at least making sure that he wasn't smuggling fresh c.p. material?

I stood right there and watched them type a bunch of bull shit into the computer about me. I was trying to talk them out of it the entire time. They showed me what they were doing step by step and told me why they were doing it. The pricks.

I told them I understood WHY they had to look at my content, and I do, but 10 DVDs in with every model having an ID and release, they should have dropped it. I had box cover art on there, website PSDs, invoices from some pretty big and well known companies, you name it. They could clearly see right out of the gate that I was not bringing in CP. What they did was overboard along with some of their questions and comments WAY out of line.

It wasn't nerve wracking as I know my rights and knew that if they tried to seize legal content for no reason at all, they would have a serious law suit on their hands. It was just a pain in the ass and time consuming. I think I was more aggravated than anything because they clearly were overstepping their bounds. I can understand if I didn't have IDs of models or the models looked pre-teen, but nothing could be further from the truth. For starters, almost all of them had cocks. lol

Myst · 11-25-2008, 02:28 AM

That is fucking insane..
They can search laptops and hard drives as well even if they are in your luggage??

Ron Bennett · 11-25-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I told them I understood WHY they had to look at my content, and I do, but 10 DVDs in with every model having an ID and release, they should have dropped it. I had box cover art on there, website PSDs, invoices from some pretty big and well known companies, you name it. They could clearly see right out of the gate that I was not bringing in CP. What they did was overboard along with some of their questions and comments WAY out of line.

They were enjoy themselves at your expense. Power corrupts.

Furthermore, based on what you described in previous posts, they apparently lead very boring lives - viewing your content was likely most excitement they've had in ages.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

It wasn't nerve wracking as I know my rights and knew that if they tried to seize legal content for no reason at all, they would have a serious law suit on their hands. It was just a pain in the ass and time consuming. I think I was more aggravated than anything because they clearly were overstepping their bounds. I can understand if I didn't have IDs of models or the models looked pre-teen, but nothing could be further from the truth. For starters, almost all of them had cocks. lol

As others have pointed out already, Customs in a matter of speaking is above the law when it comes to search and seizure.

Count your lucky stars that the situation wasn't even worse - there are numerous instances, in which computers, content, etc are seized by Customs and seemingly disappear into the abyss for months, years, or even forever.

Ron

kahell · 11-25-2008, 02:33 AM

can they search data inside your laptop?

bloggingseo · 11-25-2008, 03:21 AM

Sounds like a pain in the arse

Ron Bennett · 11-25-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kahell

can they search data inside your laptop?

Yes ... plus they can go a step further and seize the laptop itself for an indeterminate amount of time.

Ron

kektex · 11-25-2008, 06:35 AM

Using Truecrypt hidden volumes might be a good idea (not for 40 DVDs of tranny content though), but as someone already said, if they find out it's just gonna make them hassle you even more.
A couple of interesting articles:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/15/1551246
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/09/1919214
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...uting.security

And I have developed the habit of using Eraser when I delete stuff. Don't want any sensitive info hanging around if I sell/giveaway one of my old hard drives: http://www.heidi.ie/node/6

The Judge · 11-25-2008, 06:53 AM

enlighten me then

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Originally Posted by sandman!

you have no idea about computer security this is an easy problem to fix.

kektex · 11-25-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Judge

enlighten me then

Read my post above for Eraser.

DutchTeenCash · 11-25-2008, 07:02 AM

its always a pain

been there

GabixM · 11-25-2008, 07:31 AM

yes they can go through all you content, luggage, bags, jeans, wallet every single fucking thing you are carring with you.

Last time I entered the US I was all by myself with a few friends and we were all underage. Imagine the freaking pain in the ass that was. Beeing from south america and entering by yourself to the US, is the worst shit at all. The dude at a security checkpoint started asking us about bombs and shit and the other girl that was with me didn´t speak a lot of english so she was pretty confused, man thats a terrorist attitude, fuck him.

the guy started going all aover all luggage, bags cameras and shit, I even had a picture of the cockpit of the plane we were flew in (I love airplanes) and the guy made me erase it because it was TERRORIST TRAINING MATERIAL!! WTF?!! you can get a picture anywhere in the web

well whatever, that was a few years ago, next time I enter the US I´ll be over 18 so hopefully they wont bother me that bad.... or will they??

BTW check the PATRIOT ACT that your goverment signed. You´ll be really surprised. They can steal anything they want from you.

foulfowl · 11-25-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thebossxxx

This happened 3 years ago to a producer friend of mine...

DWB,

Every time now,when you enter the USA customs and show your passport, the homeland security agent will see a red flag on their computer screen and they will have you go to an office and sit you down and ask you questions for an 30 min to an hour or so, for the next 12-24 months .. Then, you will be purged out of the system..

Shitty stuff considering you are shooting legal adult entertainment...

They should be looking for terrorists , drugs and chemicals for making bombs not legal porn!

Yeah, I got caught up on some shit crossing the border into San Diego in 2006 and it has been hell leaving and entering back into the U.S. since then. I had my laptop confiscated in Puerto Rico, coming back from Dominican Republic in February. I was strip searched crossing into Detroit from Windsor this past spring. It's a horrible thing, but I fucked up so I can understand the treatment.

Phoenix · 11-25-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Cool. Lets meet up in the Flagged Lounge next time.

i would hazard a guess that anyone who has gone to all the trade shows for many years, as i have...is also marked/flagged

there are repercussions from working in porn

czarina · 11-25-2008, 07:59 AM

welcome to the Soviet Union of America

Jman · 11-25-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

the border can be a fucked up place, it feels like you have no rights at all there, and you are at the mercy of the mood of the dude they hired with the uniform on whether he wants to give you a hard time or not

100% true, I was told by a us immigration officer I couldn't go threw. I showed him my passport clearly showing I was in US the month before and he told me that I could be the pope or a state trooper if he didn't feel like letting them in He's got rights over them and everyone else.

Fuck em all

RobertD · 11-25-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trixie

Not surprising, given the average American's attitude of, "why should I care if they detain and search me if I have nothing to hide?"

The same attitude held by "Good Germans" in the 1930's.

MaDalton · 11-25-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I haven't been to Europe in a long, long time, but come on- forty DVDs worth of porn content? Even the most liberal European customs agent would have to at least check it out to see if it was kiddie porn. That's exactly what they did to DWB here in American customs. Now their poor attitude and the part about red flagging him is another story, but of course those things are part of DWBs perception. Who knows if they actually did red flag him or just said that to scare him. It does stand to reason that part of a customs agent's job would be to screen against someone smuggling in thousands of child pornography images or videos, and a guy like DWB (or you or me for that matter) crossing international borders carrying that much porn is awfully suspicious. I think the customs agents did their job. As nerve wracking as it must have been for him, what should they have done, sent him on through with 40 DVDs worth of porn without at least making sure that he wasn't smuggling fresh c.p. material?

well, i got checked when i entered Germany coming from CZ by car with 6 harddrives. we joked a little about czech girls and porn in general and then they wished me a nice day

The Judge · 11-25-2008, 09:14 AM

that's if you know what you're erasing, but OS put shit all over the place that can only be seen with forensic tools

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Originally Posted by kektex

Read my post above for Eraser.

The Judge · 11-25-2008, 09:15 AM

fucked up how

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Originally Posted by foulfowl

Yeah, I got caught up on some shit crossing the border into San Diego in 2006 and it has been hell leaving and entering back into the U.S. since then. I had my laptop confiscated in Puerto Rico, coming back from Dominican Republic in February. I was strip searched crossing into Detroit from Windsor this past spring. It's a horrible thing, but I fucked up so I can understand the treatment.

foulfowl · 11-25-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Judge

fucked up how

Oh, Someone convinced me that smuggling people/items into the U.S. was a good idea. The pay was Ok. but I think I came as close to actually having a heart attack that I possibly could when they popped open my trunk at the border. So yeah, I understand why I get hassled whenever I cross now.

OG LennyT · 11-25-2008, 10:30 AM

Pretty well-known that Mexicans are into trannies... but they could've been cool about it

DWB · 11-25-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kektex

Using Truecrypt hidden volumes might be a good idea (not for 40 DVDs of tranny content though), but as someone already said, if they find out it's just gonna make them hassle you even more.
A couple of interesting articles:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/15/1551246
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/09/1919214
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...uting.security

And I have developed the habit of using Eraser when I delete stuff. Don't want any sensitive info hanging around if I sell/giveaway one of my old hard drives: http://www.heidi.ie/node/6

I have TC on my laptop for some files. Banking info, shit like that. If they know what they are looking for, they can find it. TC also shows up as an unformatted drive if you use TC on an external drive.

They did not notice my TC file. Not that it would have caused problems, but they just didn't notice it and I can't blame them with all those glorious tranny cocks they were looking at.

ozbusurfer · 01-14-2009, 01:12 AM

sure it wasn't tsa? they're really moronic. dumb ass mexican was probably jackin to this stuff. sad. moral of the story. use fedex.

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