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iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:10 PM

Are you ready to take YOUR country back?

discuss

2012 · 11-25-2008, 07:12 PM

Yeah, probably but all I got is my nachito.

SilentKnight · 11-25-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

Are you ready to take YOUR country back?

discuss

Take it back from.....?

tony286 · 11-25-2008, 07:13 PM

and do what then?

jwerd · 11-25-2008, 07:13 PM

If it comes to it, let's do it.

TheSenator · 11-25-2008, 07:14 PM

Who do we fight?

pornguy · 11-25-2008, 07:15 PM

The gubment.

It is no longer of the people by the people and FOR the people.

TheSenator · 11-25-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

The gubment.

It is no longer of the people by the people and FOR the people.

and then what?

spacedog · 11-25-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

and then what?

Defend from the UN whom will presumably come in to put down the aggression.

Martin · 11-25-2008, 07:19 PM

The Militias in the US are having record counts of people wanting to join. Also gun sales are at a all time high too. I'm starting to think that something is in the pipe line.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:20 PM

You people need to read the constitution!
This is not a democracy, and we all sit back and ask " what now " .. no wonder the country's been run into the ground.

Sly · 11-25-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

Defend from the UN whom will presumably come in to put down the aggression.

LOL since when has the UN accomplished that? They have a hard enough time with people throwing rocks... imagine rednecks with 15 rifles a piece.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin

The Militias in the US are having record counts of people wanting to join. Also gun sales are at a all time high too. I'm starting to think that something is in the pipe line.

A revolt is around the corner.. just look at these very forums, so many posts about the economy collapse, the people are finally getting angry..

the question is, are they gonna do something ?
or wait for soldiers to come collect them.

spacedog · 11-25-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

LOL since when has the UN accomplished that? They have a hard enough time with people throwing rocks... imagine rednecks with 15 rifles a piece.

= sarcasm

Sly · 11-25-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin

The Militias in the US are having record counts of people wanting to join. Also gun sales are at a all time high too. I'm starting to think that something is in the pipe line.

Gun sales are at an all-time high because people are afraid that the new administration will take them away.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Gun sales are at an all-time high because people are afraid that the new administration will take them away.

Which could lead to a revolt, no?

I thought there was a right to bare arms to protect the people from a tyranous goverment?

Sly · 11-25-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

Which could lead to a revolt, no?

I thought there was a right to bare arms to protect the people from a tyranous goverment?

I don't know anyone that's willing to kill their neighbor. Do you?

This isn't the 1800s. We don't have the North fighting the South. We all know people all throughout the country, we all have friends all throughout the country, we all have families all throughout the country... what kind of revolt do you want?

The Republicans fighting the Democrats? If that happens the Democrats better run... the crazy extremist Republicans and Libertarians have their stockpiles ready, LOL.

If anything were to happen I would put my money on a military coup before a civil revolt... and I wouldn't even bet a quarter on that happening.

Right now times maybe tough, people may be frustrated... but this too shall pass. We need to stop fighting and work together.

papill0n · 11-25-2008, 07:32 PM

recent photo of gfy troops armed and ready for action

LiveDose · 11-25-2008, 07:36 PM

Washington DC is taking this country into the shitter... Where to start? The federal government is such an overgrown beast and so corrupt that civil war is about the only thing that would put us on a new path. Americans are too soft now though. We just take shit from the man and say 'thank you'.

I would say this country will be unrecognizable in 10 years.

Grapesoda · 11-25-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

Are you ready to take YOUR country back?

discuss

yes I think I should burn my own house down... then demand gov money

iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't know anyone that's willing to kill their neighbor. Do you?

This isn't the 1800s. We don't have the North fighting the South. We all know people all throughout the country, we all have friends all throughout the country, we all have families all throughout the country... what kind of revolt do you want?

The Republicans fighting the Democrats? If that happens the Democrats better run... the crazy extremist Republicans and Libertarians have their stockpiles ready, LOL.

If anything were to happen I would put my money on a military coup before a civil revolt... and I wouldn't even bet a quarter on that happening.

Right now times maybe tough, people may be frustrated... but this too shall pass. We need to stop fighting and work together.

I'm speaking specifically about a war against the crooks in congress, the goverment.
as in taking the country back, as per the constitution.

Not shooting your neighbor lol, why would you do that ?

( unless he was after the last of your food, in which case I'll gladly blow his face off )

2012 · 11-25-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose

Washington DC is taking this country into the shitter... Where to start? The federal government is such an overgrown beast and so corrupt that civil war is about the only thing that would put us on a new path. Americans are too soft now though. We just take shit from the man and say 'thank you'.

I would say this country will be unrecognizable in 10 years.

Movie stars ? .... Welcome to Los Angeles, please leave your I.D. at the door.

Malicious Biz · 11-25-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

Are you ready to take YOUR country back?

discuss

Mr. McVeigh, your bomb is ready.

Fear + Paranoia + Misinformation + Kooks Like This = Dangerous situation

2012 · 11-25-2008, 07:53 PM

https://youtube.com/v/jCljFYn3zTY&hl=en&fs=1

iMind · 11-25-2008, 07:53 PM

Oh here comes malicious biz spouting his NWO agenda ( with no facts, information or CLUE )

go away man..
we get it, you think everything will be just fine.. so FUCK OFF and let us debate intelligently.

even if you disagree, just FUCK OFF until you have a point, a shred of information to share ..

lemme guess your reply , I'm crazy, you're right , no facts, no info .. just that.

GO AWAY!
even reading

"Malicious Biz
This message is hidden because Malicious Biz is on your ignore list." is starting to piss me off..

You're a great troll.

Anyone that wants to discuss the "Chance" that something could happen intelligently, click here

tony286 · 11-25-2008, 08:00 PM

sorry double post

tony286 · 11-25-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

A revolt is around the corner.. just look at these very forums, so many posts about the economy collapse, the people are finally getting angry..

the question is, are they gonna do something ?
or wait for soldiers to come collect them.

they are angry about collapse but bitch about bailouts and loans to big industries that are too big to fail. its not going to happened even if unemployment went to 10 percent, that means 90 percent are still working. I was at a restaurant today it was full of people.Back during the civil war it was musketoons against musketoons. Today its a little different.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

they are angry about collapse but bitch about bailouts and loans to big industries that are too big to fail. its not going to happened even if unemployment went to 10 percent, that means 90 percent are still working. I was at a restaurant today it was full of people.Back during the civil war it was mushetoons against musketoons. Today its a little different.

Lemme ask you something, if you go to that same restaurant a month from now, and there's no one in it.. and the price of a meal is $230.. will ya think something is up then ?

cause that's what TOP financial advisors and market specialists are predicting.
The total devaluation of your dollar..

Do you have any gold or valuables? how will you eat if not ?

pocketkangaroo · 11-25-2008, 08:06 PM

I think a civil war is the wrong word. Revolution sounds better. But I don't think it would involve neighbor vs neighbor, state vs state, or Republican vs Democrat. I think it would be a revolt on those who have profited off the desctruction of our economy. The guys who ran these companies, took home hundreds of millions, and left us with the tab. Maybe storming a few of their mansions with pitchforks and mobs wouldn't be such a bad thing?

tony286 · 11-25-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

Lemme ask you something, if you go to that same restaurant a month from now, and there's no one in it.. and the price of a meal is $230.. will ya think something is up then ?

cause that's what TOP financial advisors and market specialists are predicting.
The total devaluation of your dollar..

Do you have any gold or valuables? how will you eat if not ?

its not going to happen imo. top advisers also said gas was going to be high for a very long time.Ive been thru a bad recession before we survived.remember really bad news sells newspapers, gets people to watch news programs and page views on blogs.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I think a civil war is the wrong word. Revolution sounds better. But I don't think it would involve neighbor vs neighbor, state vs state, or Republican vs Democrat. I think it would be a revolt on those who have profited off the desctruction of our economy. The guys who ran these companies, took home hundreds of millions, and left us with the tab. Maybe storming a few of their mansions with pitchforks and mobs wouldn't be such a bad thing?

You're correct.. I used the wrong word totally.

Revolution is the correct term.
I'm over tired.

Malicious Biz · 11-25-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

Oh here comes malicious biz spouting his NWO agenda ( with no facts, information or CLUE )

go away man..
we get it, you think everything will be just fine.. so FUCK OFF and let us debate intelligently.

even if you disagree, just FUCK OFF until you have a point, a shred of information to share ..

lemme guess your reply , I'm crazy, you're right , no facts, no info .. just that.

GO AWAY!
even reading

"Malicious Biz
This message is hidden because Malicious Biz is on your ignore list." is starting to piss me off..

You're a great troll.

Anyone that wants to discuss the "Chance" that something could happen intelligently, click here

Yeah... Are these the type of people you want to rally around? This shit kooky is going to end up getting people hurt.

"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" truer words have never been spoken.

pocketkangaroo · 11-25-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

Lemme ask you something, if you go to that same restaurant a month from now, and there's no one in it.. and the price of a meal is $230.. will ya think something is up then ?

cause that's what TOP financial advisors and market specialists are predicting.
The total devaluation of your dollar..

Do you have any gold or valuables? how will you eat if not ?

Who are these top financial advisors predicting $230 restaurant meals?

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

its not going to happen imo. top advisers also said gas was going to be high for a very long time.Ive been thru a bad recession before we survived.remember really bad news sells newspapers, gets people to watch news programs and page views on blogs.

I really hope your right man, I really do.

but answer this, if you look at the great depression, do you see any similarities to now?

A recession is 2 consectutive years of negative growth, A depression is the complete devaluation of the dollar.

I've seen economic crisis too, but they were fixed real fast by PRINTING MORE MONEY.

this is a BAND AID solution.

have you witnessed bank runs and banks going under before?
Have you noticed that dodge, gm and ford are asking for PENNIES compared to what the banks have recieved? and aren't getting it?

Do you not consider that they are pushing a depression forward?

a depression is a NATURAL FIX to a bloated economy..
Now, when you take a good look and see that we're starring at the same situations that started the great depression, add the fact that credit cards didn't even EXIST back then and that most people had ACTUAL money .. that was backed by ACTUAL GOLD ..
and that most people are living beyond their means via credit .. what happens when that credit is taken away?

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Who are these top financial advisors predicting $230 restaurant meals?

http://www.trendsresearch.com/ for one, youtube search his name.. crazy stuff

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?h...um=4&ct=title#

noone said $230 specifically, but if the US dollar is worth less, how much do you expect to pay for food? the same? noooooooooooooooooo!

pocketkangaroo · 11-25-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

I really hope your right man, I really do.

but answer this, if you look at the great depression, do you see any similarities to now?

A recession is 2 consectutive years of negative growth, A depression is the complete devaluation of the dollar.

I've seen economic crisis too, but they were fixed real fast by PRINTING MORE MONEY.

this is a BAND AID solution.

have you witnessed bank runs and banks going under before?
Have you noticed that dodge, gm and ford are asking for PENNIES compared to what the banks have recieved? and aren't getting it?

Do you not consider that they are pushing a depression forward?

a depression is a NATURAL FIX to a bloated economy..
Now, when you take a good look and see that we're starring at the same situations that started the great depression, add the fact that credit cards didn't even EXIST back then and that most people had ACTUAL money .. that was backed by ACTUAL GOLD ..
and that most people are living beyond their means via credit .. what happens when that credit is taken away?

If they wanted a depression, they would have let the big financial institutions fail.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:19 PM

malicious , i'm seriously not reading your posts.. save your energy.

( I'm really not, I just know what you're saying already )

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

If they wanted a depression, they would have let the big financial institutions fail.

They are STILL going to fail.
That's the big joke on the american people!

The way to start a depression is to TAKE THE MONEY OUT.
The bank money goes RIGHT back to the fed.

jesus!

Malicious Biz · 11-25-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

http://www.trendsresearch.com/ for one, youtube search his name.. crazy stuff[/url]

noone said $230 specifically, but if the US dollar is worth less, how much do you expect to pay for food? the same? noooooooooooooooooo!

Nobody tell him that Gerald Celente was a major fearmonger behind the y2k "disaster" as well. ;)

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:22 PM

You know what really sucks..
is half of you won't be able to afford internet so I can shove my "I told ya so" down your throats!

pocketkangaroo · 11-25-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

http://www.trendsresearch.com/ for one, youtube search his name.. crazy stuff

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?h...um=4&ct=title#

noone said $230 specifically, but if the US dollar is worth less, how much do you expect to pay for food? the same? noooooooooooooooooo!

I believe we'll have inflation, but I don't think I'll be paying $230 for a meal at Applebees.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I believe we'll have inflation, but I don't think I'll be paying $230 for a meal at Applebees.

How much can the US inflate before it pops? forever ?

They already pushed back the "pop" after the .com shit and multiple other crisis'

There needs to be a collapse

You can't just keep inflating and inflating for ever.

tony286 · 11-25-2008, 08:25 PM

during The S&L Crisis over 700 banks failed and we came back.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

during The S&L Crisis over 700 banks failed and we came back.

Sure did..
However the total cost to fix that was "$124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. government"

We're looking at 2 fucking trillion and it's just started!

iMind · 11-25-2008, 08:29 PM

I'm gonna take a second to thank you guys for actually debating this intelligently

UNLIKE YOU MALICIOUS YOU FUCKING RETARD

brassmonkey · 11-25-2008, 08:38 PM

i have my weapons and lots of practice

BusterBunny · 11-25-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

recent photo of gfy troops armed and ready for action

wtf is that an army of baddog terminators?

brassmonkey · 11-25-2008, 08:50 PM

damn all those guys are dead most likely not the robots

Darkland · 11-25-2008, 09:18 PM

All this talk that has been occupying the board lately about the economic crisis, nafta, or any other government conspiracy accomplishes nothing other than to occupy your time while things fall apart around you.

Now I am all for a good debate, but what is the point of debating and bickering and cringing behind your keyboards and waiting for the world to end?

If you see something wrong in the world around you, YOUR world, then I don't think sniveling on a board is going to change anything. It is almost as bad as ignoring the problems altogether. If you see something in the world around you and you don't lift a finger to actually try to change it, then what is the point of even complaining about it or worrying about it because as you point out, it is here and it is happening.

And I know some will say, but I AM doing something, I am spreading the word... Well, you're not. All you are doing is trying to get more people to see things the way you do, but fail to give them the tools required to do anything with that info other than to do what you just did. Paint more scary pictures to try and scare the shit out of people.

Fear mongering comes in many forms, but the dibilitating effects always amount to the same. And that is inaction or outright disbelief.

Everyone already knows the world is a scary place and if it is as bad as you think it is, and you only offer prognostic fear instead of real solutions for change you are simply rushing the process of decay.

The worst of these offenders is the "Conspiracy Theorist" who heaps up large doses of fear with no real solutions. In a thesis, I proposed that their efforts might actually be self defeating. Here is an excerpt:

"What if conspiracy theories are actually planted information, using the theorist as a tool for dissemination and disaccreditation? The conspiracy, while inherently true, is presented in such a manner as to allow the average citizen to dismiss it out of hand by the absurdity of its nature and the people who claim it to be true.

Most conspiracy theorists have only the short sighted focus of the problem at hand, or the end result of the conspiracy. Just as a doctor merely treats the symptom rather than the cause, a conspiracy theorist only draws a conclusion, never a solution...."

If you don't like the picture before you, don't bitch about, simply change it.

iMind · 11-25-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Maybe storming a few of their mansions with pitchforks and mobs wouldn't be such a bad thing?

that's EXACTLY what's needed.

but the question is how far is it gonna go before it happens ?
How many will die before people question the government?

How many of our dollars will they pump into banks and their pockets, before the people say, You know, I've fucking had it with this?

By reading this thread, and the others on the front page right now.. it'll be too late.

They have a military, Americans are being stripped of their money, their guns and their rights and are all siting around with their thumbs up their asses saying nothing is wrong!

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I think a civil war is the wrong word. Revolution sounds better. But I don't think it would involve neighbor vs neighbor, state vs state, or Republican vs Democrat. I think it would be a revolt on those who have profited off the desctruction of our economy. The guys who ran these companies, took home hundreds of millions, and left us with the tab. Maybe storming a few of their mansions with pitchforks and mobs wouldn't be such a bad thing?

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iMind Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 937	malicious , i'm seriously not reading your posts.. save your energy. ( I'm really not, I just know what you're saying already )

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Darkland Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,488	All this talk that has been occupying the board lately about the economic crisis, nafta, or any other government conspiracy accomplishes nothing other than to occupy your time while things fall apart around you. Now I am all for a good debate, but what is the point of debating and bickering and cringing behind your keyboards and waiting for the world to end? If you see something wrong in the world around you, YOUR world, then I don't think sniveling on a board is going to change anything. It is almost as bad as ignoring the problems altogether. If you see something in the world around you and you don't lift a finger to actually try to change it, then what is the point of even complaining about it or worrying about it because as you point out, it is here and it is happening. And I know some will say, but I AM doing something, I am spreading the word... Well, you're not. All you are doing is trying to get more people to see things the way you do, but fail to give them the tools required to do anything with that info other than to do what you just did. Paint more scary pictures to try and scare the shit out of people. Fear mongering comes in many forms, but the dibilitating effects always amount to the same. And that is inaction or outright disbelief. Everyone already knows the world is a scary place and if it is as bad as you think it is, and you only offer prognostic fear instead of real solutions for change you are simply rushing the process of decay. The worst of these offenders is the "Conspiracy Theorist" who heaps up large doses of fear with no real solutions. In a thesis, I proposed that their efforts might actually be self defeating. Here is an excerpt: "What if conspiracy theories are actually planted information, using the theorist as a tool for dissemination and disaccreditation? The conspiracy, while inherently true, is presented in such a manner as to allow the average citizen to dismiss it out of hand by the absurdity of its nature and the people who claim it to be true. Most conspiracy theorists have only the short sighted focus of the problem at hand, or the end result of the conspiracy. Just as a doctor merely treats the symptom rather than the cause, a conspiracy theorist only draws a conclusion, never a solution...." If you don't like the picture before you, don't bitch about, simply change it. __________________ "The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01 Last edited by Darkland; 11-25-2008 at 09:20 PM..