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12-29-2008, 01:11 PM
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All the free hardcore Porn on the net will fuck us all!
I think its all the free Hardcore porn on the net.. The new Generation knows how to get it free. I have been saying this for years. We need to clean up all the free hardcore porn on the net so they have to pay for something.
free tits and the rest should be censored. pay for pink  Ask anyone where they get Porn online and they will all tell you some free tube or Hardcore free site |
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12-29-2008, 01:17 PM
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it's not going away anytime soon
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12-29-2008, 01:19 PM
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Let slip the dogs of war.
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12-29-2008, 01:21 PM
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I dont think its all about traffic and playing the numbers game if they get it free. all we are doing is training the surfers to be free loaders |
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12-29-2008, 01:21 PM
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There's no argument there, let me know how you intend on removing all the free porn ;)
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12-29-2008, 01:23 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:23 PM
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i cant wait till prostitutes figure out how to make money giving pussy away..
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12-29-2008, 01:24 PM
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I feel the same exact way but it looks like that is going to be far from what happens in the future, unfortunately.
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12-29-2008, 01:24 PM
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Tell you what, we'll work on cutting down on the free hardcore porn if you'll stop bringing anymore noobs into the industry, deal?
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12-29-2008, 01:25 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:25 PM
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Step one is STOP LETTING PEOPLE FUCKING DOWNLOAD ALL YOUR VIDEOS FROM YOUR MEMBERS AREA!! Streaming only. Fuck this "Its what the customer wants" crap. Utter bullshit, and a retarded biz model. If you goto a peep show the curtain closes after your time is up unless you put in more money. Would the girls put up with not getting paid anymore, and giving it all away all day long for a few tokens dropped in the slot? No. Its amazing that people out there still defend this stupid ass situation we got painted into a corner on since there was no good technology to use the proper model for our content when internet porn started. Change or die folks.
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12-29-2008, 01:25 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:27 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:28 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:31 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:32 PM
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We still do ok with ours but not like a few years ago. most of our traffic now is inhouse and I dont see the point on building more sites or content since there is so much out there free now. something has to bust to get webmasters to stop giving away free hardcore |
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12-29-2008, 01:33 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:44 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:47 PM
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webmasters or sponsors shouldnt buy traffic from free hardcore sites and tubes till they start censoring or not showing pussy. I bet sales would sky rocket. someone has to force it. and sponsors shouldnt give away anymore hardcore content free |
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12-29-2008, 01:55 PM
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One of the major problems to me is just the overall attitude of people. If you make a thread about how Tube sites are giving away too much content half the people that respond will simply say, "adapt or die."
That adaption, to many, means giving away even more free stuff. It is like an arms race and we are working to see who can give away the most. Eventually I think it will cave in on itself and there will be a natural cutback. Hardcore will never go away and there will always be plenty of it out there for free, but I think some of it will start to fall off as people "adapt" and find better ways of making money than just seeing how much they can give away. All that said there will never be any kind of guidelines or group that helps control the amount of hardcore porn available. Look at the 2257 stuff as an example. The only group that really stands up for this industry is the FSC, but when they ask people to join and spend $50 a year to help protect their industry they get hammered by people who do nothing but slam them. (I'm not slurping the FSC, just using them as an example because I think they do good work) Asking webmasters to organize is like herding cats. Just not going to happen. |
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12-29-2008, 01:58 PM
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12-29-2008, 01:58 PM
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Once the economy runs about half the brand names out of the business, and companies have to get back to the basics, and generating their own traffic, or doing like Lightspeed and screening their affiliate program so not just anyone can get in. THEN you can start making some changes. Once the industry starts raising the bar to membership, you will start to get somewhere on cleaning shit up. |
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12-29-2008, 02:03 PM
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12-29-2008, 02:08 PM
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I will tell you what will eventually happen. Governments will start filtering porn off the net because its too easy to access with no protection between it and minors.
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12-29-2008, 02:09 PM
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All I am gonna say is that... it is time to diversify and niche your shit out like ur never niched before... the times when people made a few bucks with generic tities are soon to be gone... if they haven't been gone for some years already.. lol
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12-29-2008, 02:42 PM
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Is there a list anywhere of all the sponsors who let themselves be listed on sites that contain illegal amounts of content?
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12-29-2008, 02:56 PM
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Rabble Rabble Rabble. Yet no one does shit. There are some smaller guys starting to do it (cough cough), but not many yet. Whole industry needs changed around. Step 1 is to stop the leaking from your members areas. If your exclusive content is already free on the net why would people pay for it? So change your biz models. Pay to play only. No pay, you can't see our exclusive stuff. The constant feeding of all the free shit from the people trying to SELL it is retarded. Drop fhg's PERIOD drop them. If you give content out for people to use, let them use their own fucking hosting. Why in the fuck should I pay for some guy I don't know to get me sales that can't afford his own hosting? Talk about diluting your traffic. Sheesh. Another greedy traffic grabbing method that should of never happened. Start censoring all the content you do allow before it goes out. Don't give away the goodies that people will PAY to see for free. What geniuses came up with these ideas? You can't herd cats, so AGAIN the first step is to control what you can control, thats any new content you are about to release, make sure it stays YOUR content.
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12-29-2008, 05:58 PM
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raise the bandwidth costs...
yeah thats as likely to happen as free porn going away
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12-29-2008, 06:06 PM
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Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
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sponsors could just not accept that traffic.. if they are getting traffic from tube sites.. or if your traffic has horrible ratios.. you get canned.. if sponsors notice traffic coming from ppl giving away too much.. than they can simple warn you or ditch you.
I expect it sometimes.. but it won't ever happen. example.. sending my 404s to aff.. and making 1 sale per 200k weak example.. since they suck anways and I only tried for a few days. I expected someone to contact me and tell me to stop sending that shit to them. |
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Very true. free hosting for gallleries supports alot for the small guys who couldnt afford hosting. not a bad idea new exclusive content shouldnt be hosted free for webmasters or something like that |
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12-29-2008, 06:12 PM
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Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
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if sponsor sees 100k a day coming from a page loaded with all their videos and it makes them 1 sale a day.. contact that person and tell them its unacceptable.
clean your shit up. If I own a car dealership.. and all my salesman are letting ppl borrow the cars for weeks/months to test drive.. I am going to give them shit and fire them.. I am not going to complain about it and they won't stop till they get told or fired. |
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12-29-2008, 06:13 PM
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12-29-2008, 06:16 PM
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Remember TGP2? Ah.. that would have been a fabu idea. Oh well.
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When we started talking about our site we wanted it to be streaming only - didn't want members allowed to download anything.
But, every pay site we looked at u could download until your dick fell off and these tube sites offered endless free shit so we concluded that only streaming would get us too many chargebacks. Seeing that we have basically zero vid content at the moment and no members yet - although we are getting some traffic - we are proud to announce that we haven't had one single chargeback.  |
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im sorry, i think i just shit myself a little. Here's how to solve this: Kill all the tube owners. Quit bitching and kill them all. Aside from the laugh you are right on, its just pointless. We cant do shit about anything.
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Now i need to figure out another way to make money off porn thats new and unique |
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Soon as we start treating our biz as what it is everyone will be better off. Lets end the rental price buys and keeps all the content in the store shit. |
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