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Old 05-13-2009, 11:56 AM   #1
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Could you please define "small fee" for the on demand tech support?
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someone should really test out the order form in firefox.

besides the messed up order form the deals look good
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Jesus Fucking Christ..... I think you guys at National Net need to put down the crack pipe.

I've been with National Net for like seven years. I'll never leave them. They are the best, hands down.
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Could you please define "small fee" for the on demand tech support?
$35/incident.

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And let me clarify - per incident doesn't include reboots, hardware breakfix, etc as those are all included at no charge.

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someone should really test out the order form in firefox.

besides the messed up order form the deals look good
We DID test the form in FF...and in fact is the only browser I use and our developers use multiple browsers in order to test.

May I ask what you are seeing that looks wrong and what you did so we can duplicate?

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$35/incident.

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whats an incident? a phone call? if i keep you guys on the phone for 2 hours lets say, im only going to get charged $35?
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We DID test the form in FF...and in fact is the only browser I use and our developers use multiple browsers in order to test.

May I ask what you are seeing that looks wrong and what you did so we can duplicate?

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whats an incident? a phone call? if i keep you guys on the phone for 2 hours lets say, im only going to get charged $35?
An "incident" is anytime you contact support. If you're on the phone for 10 minutes or 2 hours it's the same cost (it's called "taking the good with the bad").

Obviously if the reason you're calling is because of something WE did or something we broke, there would be no charge for it.

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Are you referring to the actual order form, where you put in your name, address etc?

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about.

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How's the chantix/not smoking thing going for you?
I haven't smoked in about 3 months. Stopped taking Chantix after 2 weeks because I didn't need it anymore...thanks for asking :-)

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I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about.

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yes that page
First, I appreciate your helping with this....but...I'm still a bit lost.

Yes, the form has a grey background but the text above each text area/field is blue, and of course, any text you enter in TO the text fields are not bound to a color.

So, I'm still not sure what I'm missing. I'm sure I'm being an idiot here - would you be willing to send me a screen grab of that page to bill AT nationalnet DOT com?

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First, I appreciate your helping with this....but...I'm still a bit lost.

Yes, the form has a grey background but the text above each text area/field is blue, and of course, any text you enter in TO the text fields are not bound to a color.

So, I'm still not sure what I'm missing. I'm sure I'm being an idiot here - would you be willing to send me a screen grab of that page to bill AT nationalnet DOT com?

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all the text to the left of the boxes you fill in is unreadable in my firefox maybee its just me if it works fine for you might just be my setup.
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What does that translate into as MB/s?
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This sounds great Bill. You guys have awesome bandwidth so for those that like to handle there own support issues and keep outsourced bills down this is a win win. I know I personally would not give up your tech support team for a cheaper bill (no pun intended) but different strokes for different folks.
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btw http://www.nationalnet.com/dedicated_hosting.html is giving 404
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What does that translate into as MB/s?
It doesn't translate at all exactly but depending on your traffic patterns you can figure between 220-300 Gigs per 1 Mbps.

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I leave the office early one day and Bill is giving away the fucking farm....maybe I need to go back to work before he gives it all away

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I leave the office early one day and Bill is giving away the fucking farm....maybe I need to go back to work before he gives it all away

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It doesn't translate at all exactly but depending on your traffic patterns you can figure between 220-300 Gigs per 1 Mbps.

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I think what they're trying to get at is how do you calculate the gigs transferred on the packages that are offering 2000 gigs or something similar.

Is it raw data transfer per the server logs? Or do you use 95th percentile from the MRTG and then take the mbps and multiply by 320 or something like that?

For instance, I could burn 25mbps for 48 hours straight, and then not use any bandwidth for the rest of the month.

If you're billing me in mbps at 95th percentile, then I'm paying for 25mbps, but if you're billing me in raw gigs transferred, I only transferred 503.

That's why it's important to know how those "gigs" are calculated, because most hosts who say they're billing in "gigs" just take the mbps and multiply it by 320.
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And let me clarify - per incident doesn't include reboots, hardware breakfix, etc as those are all included at no charge.

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Not to thread hijack.. but that's nuts.
I'm not going to spam another company... but our host did about 4 hours worth of upgrades for me yesterday just to be nice and help..
And I've had my current host google fixes to wordpress issues and hacks .. with 5 min turn around support emails... for free.

$35/incident is NOT good for marketing minded people who aren't techie nerds and tend to need help quite a bit.
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Not to thread hijack.. but that's nuts.
I'm not going to spam another company... but our host did about 4 hours worth of upgrades for me yesterday just to be nice and help..
And I've had my current host google fixes to wordpress issues and hacks .. with 5 min turn around support emails... for free.

$35/incident is NOT good for marketing minded people who aren't techie nerds and tend to need help quite a bit.

Hi PSS....

I saw your thread about your hosting company and I totally respect your views and I can tell you that I think your hosting company is one of the good ones....but remember that you are comparing apples to oranges. Like yours, our Managed Service includes EVERYTHING at absolutely no additional costs where this is designed for a client that wishes to do some, or all, of their own management.

I hope this helps you to understand.

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I think what they're trying to get at is how do you calculate the gigs transferred on the packages that are offering 2000 gigs or something similar.

Is it raw data transfer per the server logs? Or do you use 95th percentile from the MRTG and then take the mbps and multiply by 320 or something like that?

For instance, I could burn 25mbps for 48 hours straight, and then not use any bandwidth for the rest of the month.

If you're billing me in mbps at 95th percentile, then I'm paying for 25mbps, but if you're billing me in raw gigs transferred, I only transferred 503.

That's why it's important to know how those "gigs" are calculated, because most hosts who say they're billing in "gigs" just take the mbps and multiply it by 320.

Do people really do that? Wow! I guess I am just not diabolical enough to even think of something that like.....like everything we do, we do it the right way.....we just total the raw gigs done on the port....if you push 500 Gigs for 3 straight days and nothing the rest of the month you are only going to be billed for 1500 Gigs....no fuzzy math here.

We make money giving a good service for a fair price. I cant think of any other way I would want to do it.


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HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!! I read the other day that college professors in Alabama have just come up with a brand new use for sheep......Wool.


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Not to thread hijack.. but that's nuts.
I'm not going to spam another company... but our host did about 4 hours worth of upgrades for me yesterday just to be nice and help..
And I've had my current host google fixes to wordpress issues and hacks .. with 5 min turn around support emails... for free.

$35/incident is NOT good for marketing minded people who aren't techie nerds and tend to need help quite a bit.
If you really need support for that small stuff go for managed dedicated hosting. The thread starter also already mentioned in his first post it's for people who can manage their own shit.

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If you really need support for that small stuff go for managed dedicated hosting. The thread starter also already mentioned in his first post it's for people who can manage their own shit.
Apparently, I'm a douche who can't read.
Sorry for fucking up your thread.

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Old 05-13-2009, 05:12 PM   #42
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Do people really do that? Wow! I guess I am just not diabolical enough to even think of something that like.....like everything we do, we do it the right way.....we just total the raw gigs done on the port....if you push 500 Gigs for 3 straight days and nothing the rest of the month you are only going to be billed for 1500 Gigs....no fuzzy math here.

We make money giving a good service for a fair price. I cant think of any other way I would want to do it.


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Yeah man, it's very rare to find a host who will bill on actual gigs out through the port. At the end of the day you're paying for 95th percentile mbps at 99.9% of hosts.

That's why with your per gig plans you'll likely have ALOT of folks asking how you calculate that.
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:22 PM   #43
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Yeah man, it's very rare to find a host who will bill on actual gigs out through the port. At the end of the day you're paying for 95th percentile mbps at 99.9% of hosts.

That's why with your per gig plans you'll likely have ALOT of folks asking how you calculate that.

Wow, maybe I need to get caught up to all of the new fangled ways to make money through creative billing. The way you are describing would mean that the host is charging you for 320GB for every 1mbps you push and we know that in reality (unless you are doing some kind of special application) you are only going to push about 220G for every 1mbps...so that means they are overcharging their customers by 100GB for every 1mbps....so THAT is how they have been selling under cost!

I actually talked to a new NationalNet customer the other day who showed me how his hosting company was billing him like weeks before his month started....it was like he got a bill sometime in May for JUNE's service. I just laughed.

Maybe I need to get more creative...I feel like I am missing out ;)


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HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!! I read the other day that college professors in Alabama have just come up with a brand new use for sheep......Wool.


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Can existing clients transfer their server onto one of these deals?
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:46 PM   #49
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Can existing clients transfer their server onto one of these deals?

Actually, that is a fair question and we usually remember to put this into the original post, but like all of our specials, this is for new orders only. An existing customer can order these in addition to their current account, but not to replace their current account.

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Actually, that is a fair question and we usually remember to put this into the original post, but like all of our specials, this is for new orders only. An existing customer can order these in addition to their current account, but not to replace their current account.

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Thats a bummer, Im looking to lower mine down a bit
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