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Old 02-26-2009, 07:41 AM   #1
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[FU] Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

This SOB is using mexican drug cartels using machine guns and grenades as an
excuse for renewing the so-called assault weapons ban. What a farce.

Hey remember when Obama said he's not going to shit all over the
constitution? Bloops.


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The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that
expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder
said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few
gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to
reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive
move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going
across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among
drug cartels along the border.

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder
said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug
enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of
sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers
to fight over access routes into the U.S.

A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government
concerns about the violence.

"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have
resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and
grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many
towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico,
including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."

At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his
Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence.

"I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we
discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because
of their enforcement efforts," he said.

Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the
assault weapons ban, however.

"It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the
campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that
have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure
exactly what the sequencing will be."

In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the
National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on
Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."

During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee
about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.
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"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets
and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be
something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to
the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the
Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.

The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned
19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with
more than 10 rounds.

"A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American
citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered
under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution."





both are semi-automatic, magazine fed rifles. however, manufacture of one of these would probably be banned.
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:48 AM   #2
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Yup disarming the population and only leaving the drug lords with the guns. Sounds pretty smart to me!
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i don't really see what business the public has owning full on assault rifles, but fuck it i'd shoot one if i had the chance.
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hope, change... yess weee cannnnn!!!!

spend my money, take my firearms, i want to be more enslaved! cmon guys you all know how safe it is in disarmed areas? fuck guns, bring on the shankings!
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Where i come from you can almost not own a knife.....I think it's a good ideer....
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i don't really see what business the public has owning full on assault rifles, but fuck it i'd shoot one if i had the chance.
I understand your point and all but the only people affected by something like this are guys like me who legally buy the gun from a store and just likes going out to ranges with friends and spending an afternoon shooting and such, nothing wrong with a home defense semi-auto against someone whos carrying the same thing but isn't affected by laws.

Nobody is stocking up expecting Red Dawn or anything, the scary thing about this is they're justifying changes in our constitutional laws to benefit Mexico.. W T F
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Good for him. Nothing worse than a dumb redneck with an automatic weapon.
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And why exactly do you need to have assault weapons?

And limiting which guns you can have does not go against the constitution. You still have the right to bear arms.
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Yup disarming the population and only leaving the drug lords with the guns. Sounds pretty smart to me!
How many gun fights have you had with drug lords?
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Ya because Joe Blow needs fucking assault weapons
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How many gun fights have you had with drug lords?
This is GFY. you never know when armed bandits will invade a webmasters moms basement intent on stealing their TGP partner account passwords and god help them if their fat fingers cant drop the twinkie and pick up your assault rifle that you bought from the pimp points store.
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an armed population is a safe one...or so they say

but yet...the us government is stealing money from their own grandchildren and no one does anything

clutch your gun to your chest and do as you are told



ok im just fuckin with ya..lol
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Where i come from you can almost not own a knife.....I think it's a good ideer....
Yea there are 2 places in America that take away all sharp objects.....heck they even search you for contraband daily, to make sure you don't have a weapon (EVEN YOUR BUTTHOLE!)

It's called prison (and the insane asylum)....& no one has a weapon.....yet its the most dangerous place on earth hands down
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Well get ready for him to roll back other Bush follies too. Like the slackening of clean air and water standards that Bush allowed for example.
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I understand your point and all but the only people affected by something like this are guys like me who legally buy the gun from a store and just likes going out to ranges with friends and spending an afternoon shooting and such, nothing wrong with a home defense semi-auto against someone whos carrying the same thing but isn't affected by laws.

Nobody is stocking up expecting Red Dawn or anything, the scary thing about this is they're justifying changes in our constitutional laws to benefit Mexico.. W T F
I think the problem lies with the assault rifles that are easily converted to full auto. Nobody can tell me there is any logical reason to own that beyond being paranoid about the government.

They need to clearly define the difference between typical rifles and assault rifles in the law.

And of course being your neighbour to the north, I have to say that attempting to stem the flow of weapons across a border is a good thing. The hand guns used in crimes up here (in large part) come across the border. Not much we can do about it because of their size, not because of the failure of the border inspection stations.
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I think the problem lies with the assault rifles that are easily converted to full auto. Nobody can tell me there is any logical reason to own that beyond being paranoid about the government.

They need to clearly define the difference between typical rifles and assault rifles in the law.

And of course being your neighbour to the north, I have to say that attempting to stem the flow of weapons across a border is a good thing. The hand guns used in crimes up here (in large part) come across the border. Not much we can do about it because of their size, not because of the failure of the border inspection stations.
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I think the problem lies with the assault rifles that are easily converted to full auto. Nobody can tell me there is any logical reason to own that beyond being paranoid about the government.

They need to clearly define the difference between typical rifles and assault rifles in the law.

And of course being your neighbour to the north, I have to say that attempting to stem the flow of weapons across a border is a good thing. The hand guns used in crimes up here (in large part) come across the border. Not much we can do about it because of their size, not because of the failure of the border inspection stations.
I'd like to stem the tide of chump-ass (disgusting/non-properly-flushed) BC bud coming south from your border. I guess there's nothing we can do about it....due to the huge amount you guys toss down our throats over the border.
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Bans like these dont work. The dangerous(wrong) people will still have whatever weapons they want. In my country almost no one is allowed to own for instance a handgun, but there are more guns in circulation than ever. This guy I know, the police stormed his apartement and found a fucking loaded machine gun. Several other sick fucks I know all have at least one handgun.

Obama wants to disarm the American public long term, that's all this is about... Tough times are ahead and politicians know it.
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Bans like these dont work. The dangerous(wrong) people will still have whatever weapons they want. In my country almost no one is allowed to own for instance a handgun, but there are more guns in circulation than ever. This guy I know, the police stormed his apartement and found a fucking loaded machine gun. Several other sick fucks I know all have at least one handgun.

Obama wants to disarm the American public long term, that's all this is about... Tough times are ahead and politicians know it.
ding ding ding ding ding.....

& its real hard to control the masses....when they are armed to the teeth
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i don't really see what business the public has owning full on assault rifles, but fuck it i'd shoot one if i had the chance.
Simple. To defend ourselves against a tyrannical government. That is the reason we have the right to bear arms.
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Yea there are 2 places in America that take away all sharp objects.....heck they even search you for contraband daily, to make sure you don't have a weapon (EVEN YOUR BUTTHOLE!)

It's called prison (and the insane asylum)....& no one has a weapon.....yet its the most dangerous place on earth hands down
but that's becuase of the population in prisons bit becuase knives are banned. would prison be safer if inmates were allowed to be armed?
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the criminals still having guns is a good argument, but how many shooting massacres in the US happen with the use of legally owned guns? most of them i would guess.
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People kill people.
Mexicans don't obey US law.
An assault rifle ban will not stop the flow of guns in/out of Mexico.

US Citizens have lots of guns and the right to bear arms is in the constitution.

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Simple. To defend ourselves against a tyrannical government. That is the reason we have the right to bear arms.
The irony of the left. They want to ban guns at the same time thinking Bush might have called martial law. So what happens if we get a president worse than Bush, one that does start throwing people in camps, after Obama has banned weapons?
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I understand your point and all but the only people affected by something like this are guys like me who legally buy the gun from a store and just likes going out to ranges with friends and spending an afternoon shooting and such, nothing wrong with a home defense semi-auto against someone whos carrying the same thing but isn't affected by laws.

Nobody is stocking up expecting Red Dawn or anything, the scary thing about this is they're justifying changes in our constitutional laws to benefit Mexico.. W T F

If that's the case, then why don't you guys go to a range where you can rent the desired weapons, and then shoot em? What da hell does anyone need a grenade launcher in their home for? Russian invasion? Red-Coats coming? Alien Takeover?

There is no need for assault weapons at home - the constitution was made in a time of conquering and invading, so it was necessary to have the little population that there was, armed and ready to fight to defend the country.
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limiting which guns you can have does not go against the constitution. You still have the right to bear arms.
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US Citizens have lots of guns and the right to bear arms is in the constitution.
Just in case you missed it.
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If that's the case, then why don't you guys go to a range where you can rent the desired weapons, and then shoot em? What da hell does anyone need a grenade launcher in their home for? Russian invasion? Red-Coats coming? Alien Takeover?

There is no need for assault weapons at home - the constitution was made in a time of conquering and invading, so it was necessary to have the little population that there was, armed and ready to fight to defend the country.
FACT American mainland was not attacked during WWII because we were armed to the teeth. Admiral Yamamoto said the main reason Japan never attacked mainland US was because the citizens were armed.

We are STILL living in a time of conquering and invading. What do you think Iraq and Afghanistan are?
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FACT American mainland was not attacked during WWII because we were armed to the teeth. Admiral Yamamoto said the main reason Japan never attacked mainland US was because the citizens were armed.

We are STILL living in a time of conquering and invading. What do you think Iraq and Afghanistan are?
So they attack a military base. Good thinking on that one, no guns there.
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So they attack a military base. Good thinking on that one, no guns there.
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I'd like to stem the tide of chump-ass (disgusting/non-properly-flushed) BC bud coming south from your border. I guess there's nothing we can do about it....due to the huge amount you guys toss down our throats over the border.
Why would you want to stem the tide? It would just drive up the price of the quality stuff.
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Yup disarming the population and only leaving the drug lords with the guns. Sounds pretty smart to me!
What a stupid statement that is. You should be put down like a dog for being a retard.
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So they attack a military base. Good thinking on that one, no guns there.
Pearl Harbor was a sitting duck. Japan did not invade the mainland because they knew citizens were armed.
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What a stupid statement that is. You should be put down like a dog for being a retard.
So tell me how banning weapons will stop criminals from having them?
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:40 AM   #41
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Sounds like people just looking for something to whine about with the word Obama in it for pageviews. Same shit different day blah blah blah. This won't effect anyone here personally and you all know it. None of you keyboard warriors drive around with full autos or even have them in your homes for that matter. Now a total ban on guns, I can see bitching, maybe you should read a little harder or find something more useful to whine about.
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None of you keyboard warriors drive around with full autos or even have them in your homes for that matter.
Isn't that because full autos are already banned?
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Pearl Harbor was a sitting duck. Japan did not invade the mainland because they knew citizens were armed.
I'm not sure what citizens with guns would do against air attacks though, which is all they did.
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I'm not sure what citizens with guns would do against air attacks though, which is all they did.
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FACT American mainland was not attacked during WWII because we were armed to the teeth. Admiral Yamamoto said the main reason Japan never attacked mainland US was because the citizens were armed.

We are STILL living in a time of conquering and invading. What do you think Iraq and Afghanistan are?

FACT - if Russia or China really want to invade the U.S. they will just develop some intercontinental missiles, launch their shit from the Arctic, Canada, or sub's and when shit is in ruins, invade.

That is the DUMBEST excuse for not invading a country - and if its true, then they deserved to get their shit blasted. Any military bozo will know that a gun in the hands of an untrained person is as good as a monkey with a calculator in an accounting office.
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I'm not sure what citizens with guns would do against air attacks though, which is all they did.
You think the US military will bomb US cities killing US citizens?
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FACT - if Russia or China really want to invade the U.S. they will just develop some intercontinental missiles, launch their shit from the Arctic, Canada, or sub's and when shit is in ruins, invade.

That is the DUMBEST excuse for not invading a country - and if its true, then they deserved to get their shit blasted. Any military bozo will know that a gun in the hands of an untrained person is as good as a monkey with a calculator in an accounting office.
How the fuck do you "invade" a country with only intercontinental missiles?
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Sounds like people just looking for something to whine about with the word Obama in it for pageviews. Same shit different day blah blah blah. This won't effect anyone here personally and you all know it. None of you keyboard warriors drive around with full autos or even have them in your homes for that matter. Now a total ban on guns, I can see bitching, maybe you should read a little harder or find something more useful to whine about.
Go study history
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You think the US military will bomb US cities killing US citizens?
No but if they did having guns won't help them. I was talking about Japan attacking American in WW2 though..
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