BULLSHIT! Military Disciplines 13 marines. - GoFuckYourself.com

split_joel · 03-04-2009, 02:05 AM

This is such bullshit the military will do anything to cover there asses. These guys lifes are ruined now.

http://www.10news.com/news/18838912/detail.html

Deej · 03-04-2009, 02:07 AM

BY the thread title I figured you had finally got a good grasp on how to spell...

But by opening and reading the rest of this thread I know now that will never happen...

Reak AGV · 03-04-2009, 02:08 AM

Yeah that's pure bullshit

d-null · 03-04-2009, 02:13 AM

can you explain your point better? reading that article it says that the people disciplined did not follow procedure and deaths occured, is that not true?

split_joel · 03-04-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

BY the thread title I figured you had finally got a good grasp on how to spell...

But by opening and reading the rest of this thread I know now that will never happen...

Get a fucking life. You are so fucking sad sitting here all day attacking people on the internet. Get a fucking life.

split_joel · 03-04-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

can you explain your point better? reading that article it says that the people disciplined did not follow procedure and deaths occured, is that not true?

People make mistakes, these are our soldiers who defend this country. Agree with the wars or not they still protect us. People make mistakes, and to discharge them over this is crap.

Deej · 03-04-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

Get a fucking life. You are so fucking sad sitting here all day attacking people on the internet. Get a fucking life.

just you joel..

jon clark is gone...

Its only you now that I pick on...

who · 03-04-2009, 02:16 AM

Hrmf, even if it's not bullshit, surely they can see that the story reads like a steaming pile of dung... why would they release such a piece of shit..

JD · 03-04-2009, 02:16 AM

good. they fucked up/ignored safety standards and it cause people to die.

Deej · 03-04-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

People make mistakes, these are our soldiers who defend this country. Agree with the wars or not they still protect us. People make mistakes, and to discharge them over this is crap.

discharged for killing people out of negligence...

theyre lucky they are just going home

SBJ · 03-04-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

discharged for killing people out of negligence...

theyre lucky they are just going home

I gotta agree with that.. And the pilot should have landed at the other base away from civilians

georgeyw · 03-04-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

This is such bullshit the military will do anything to cover there asses. These guys lifes are ruined now.

http://www.10news.com/news/18838912/detail.html

So the 4 people who died because of these guys are what? LIving the high life?

Mr Pheer · 03-04-2009, 03:27 AM

Being relieved of their current positions doesnt mean they are going home. The military has a general rule: You fuck up, you move up.

They will just move to positions in division headquaters or other cushy jobs.

split_joel · 03-04-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi

I gotta agree with that.. And the pilot should have landed at the other base away from civilians

One engine had already failed making it nearly impossible to fly to the other base. He determined that he could make it to Miramar and not the other base.

sicone · 03-04-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

People make mistakes, these are our soldiers who defend this country. Agree with the wars or not they still protect us. People make mistakes, and to discharge them over this is crap.

Holy Shit... There is a war in San Diego? When did this start?

Deej · 03-04-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Being relieved of their current positions doesnt mean they are going home. The military has a general rule: You fuck up, you move up.

They will just move to positions in division headquaters or other cushy jobs.

still... theyre lucky... fuck those fucks... serving or not, they ignored what could/would have saved lives...

this wasnt combat thinking... it was safety ... which they were not concerned for it seems...

go read a fictional book joel

SBJ · 03-04-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

One engine had already failed making it nearly impossible to fly to the other base. He determined that he could make it to Miramar and not the other base.

might wanna re read that cause this is very clear

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But the tapes indicate that the ailing jet was closer to Coronado when the pilot reported a possible problem with the second engine. Miramar is ringed by freeways and bordered on its western end by residential areas that include a high school.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-04-2009, 04:16 AM

im sure you would feel differently if it were your 2 young daughters who were killed because some guy broke the rules and flew over a residential area. Seems pretty simple to me, they made the rule so you dont accidently kill people, he broke the rule , as a result he killed people.

StaceyJo · 03-04-2009, 04:31 AM

Real bullshit.

Fletch XXX · 03-04-2009, 06:45 AM

i ALWAYS feel threatened when they fly military planes, jets, helis or whatever over me.

they shouldnt be allowed to do it imo.

go be rambo somewhere else.

our tax dollars hard at work so redneck Johnny can blow things up and fly a jet.

notoldschool · 03-04-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Being relieved of their current positions doesnt mean they are going home. The military has a general rule: You fuck up, you move up.

They will just move to positions in division headquaters or other cushy jobs.

This is not true in any fashion unless you are an O-5 or above.

uno · 03-04-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

just you joel..

jon clark is gone...

Its only you now that I pick on...

I support you in this.

Rochard · 03-04-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

discharged for killing people out of negligence...

theyre lucky they are just going home

Where does it say "discharged"?

"Four officers at Miramar have been relieved of duty for failing to follow safety procedures and allowing the Hornet to fly over the residential area, and nine other military personnel received lesser reprimands."

The four "officers relieved of duty" means they got a transfer out of their unit and into another unit.

As for the "lesser reprimands", this most likely means something like office hours and a small reduction in pay for a short period.

You guys are making it sound like this is a huge deal; This stuff goes on daily in the military but usually doesn't make the news.

seeandsee · 03-04-2009, 08:54 AM

it's shit

BlackCrayon · 03-04-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Where does it say "discharged"?

"Four officers at Miramar have been relieved of duty for failing to follow safety procedures and allowing the Hornet to fly over the residential area, and nine other military personnel received lesser reprimands."

The four "officers relieved of duty" means they got a transfer out of their unit and into another unit.

As for the "lesser reprimands", this most likely means something like office hours and a small reduction in pay for a short period.

You guys are making it sound like this is a huge deal; This stuff goes on daily in the military but usually doesn't make the news.

They only care when American cilivians die.

Tanker · 03-04-2009, 10:04 AM

maybe the four just got non punitive letters of caution, me and 19 Marines got that once for a huge fight that broke out and we ended up in the middle off it. Frat boys gone wild ended up starting a fight with a couple Marines not realizing how many were really there at the event

saved our ass's when the Congressional hearing that wanted to investigate a fight we couldn't be punished twice for the same incident

Fletch XXX · 03-04-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

They only care when American cilivians die.

in a military mans world it is them vs civilians.

military does not care nor does it ever try and protect civilians, look at war stats to validate my point.

cherrylula · 03-04-2009, 10:11 AM

wow they killed a Mom, a Grandma, a toddler and a 2 month old baby.

TheDA · 03-04-2009, 10:19 AM

Reading that, I would have hoped they got a more severe punishment. They fucked up, they should be punished.

WarChild · 03-04-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

One engine had already failed making it nearly impossible to fly to the other base. He determined that he could make it to Miramar and not the other base.

Try reading the actual article, retard.

Penthouse Tony · 03-04-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

People make mistakes, these are our soldiers who defend this country. Agree with the wars or not they still protect us. People make mistakes, and to discharge them over this is crap.

Would you be saying that if you took your car to a mechanic and he returned it to you with a cut break line that caused you to get into a wreck?

"Military officials announced they had disciplined 13 Marines for a series of avoidable mechanical and human errors that led to the crash, which killed four members of the same family, including two children."

pornguy · 03-04-2009, 10:35 AM

That article says that it was over procedures of weather the aircraft should have even been flown. Had the been a commercial airplane you would have been yelling to sue them and fry the pilot.

Sadly, it all comes down to the pilot and if you ask me, he was the most negligent of them all. He knew or should have known there were mechanical issues with the aircraft. And he had the choice to fly it. It also seems he had a choice to land it on Coronado. and choose against that as well.

pornguy · 03-04-2009, 10:38 AM

Dupe. post

DarkJedi · 03-04-2009, 10:42 AM

dumb jarheads fucked up, got disciplined.

what's the problem again?

DarkJedi · 03-04-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel

People make mistakes, these are our soldiers who defend this country. Agree with the wars or not they still protect us.

They fucked up and killed 4 people.

STFU.

V_RocKs · 03-04-2009, 01:07 PM

You are clear to land on Coronado Island...
You are clear to land on Coronado Island...
Distressed pilot you are clear to land on Coronado Island...

Pilot claims in the thick of things he did not hear the controller telling him to go there and only heard the Miramar controllers telling him to fly over a very populated patch of land instead...

Pilot, busted. Controllers on the ship and in Miramar, busted. Commanding officers, busted.

Seems pretty usual for such an event.

seeric · 03-04-2009, 01:22 PM

shoulda landed on coronado

Deej · 03-04-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Where does it say "discharged"?

"Four officers at Miramar have been relieved of duty for failing to follow safety procedures and allowing the Hornet to fly over the residential area, and nine other military personnel received lesser reprimands."

The four "officers relieved of duty" means they got a transfer out of their unit and into another unit.

As for the "lesser reprimands", this most likely means something like office hours and a small reduction in pay for a short period.

You guys are making it sound like this is a huge deal; This stuff goes on daily in the military but usually doesn't make the news.

reguardless of where they were transferred or whatever happened to thew, they are lucky and Joel is an idiot for making this thread and taking this stance...

03-04-2009, 02:05 AM	#1
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03-04-2009, 02:16 AM	#8
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