Is this a fraud sale? - GoFuckYourself.com

helpanewbie · 03-07-2009, 12:48 PM

Hello,
I am new to this affiliate system, I would really appreciate your replies and comments but not making fun out of this silly question

I have friends who sign up for porn sites by directly going to the site and sign up. What I did that I sign up as a webmaster and told my friends to sign up from my link so that I could get some bucks. On doing this, they got the account, I even got sales but at the end of the month, I got an e-mail telling me I did fraud sales and I will not receive the money. Please let me know was it a legal sale or not?
Thanks!

Robocrop · 03-07-2009, 12:49 PM

Seems like it

John. · 03-07-2009, 12:51 PM

Did your friends cancel their memberships maybe?

EscortBiz · 03-07-2009, 12:53 PM

paranoid people are annoying as hell

Tjeezers · 03-07-2009, 01:09 PM

Got a URL for us where you send your friends for a few bucks ?

james_clickmemedia · 03-07-2009, 04:36 PM

yes thats fraud as there is no way for the program to make money if your friends cancel before the monthly re-bill. We do like the chance of making money.

Splum · 03-07-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

yes thats fraud as there is no way for the program to make money if your friends cancel before the monthly re-bill. We do like the chance of making money.

I dont see where he said his friends canceled their memberships.

HorseShit · 03-07-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

I dont see where he said his friends canceled their memberships.

HorseShit · 03-07-2009, 04:55 PM

anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

MindWaste · 03-07-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

rofl......

SBJ · 03-07-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

but did they refund those 5 sales then? Cause that would be cheating on their part if they took the members money but didn't pay the affiliate or am I missing something.. I could see how programs might frown on this when doing $100PPS days or something but..

AnniKN · 03-07-2009, 06:33 PM

If he says "some bucks" I am guessing it's a revshare program, if he made other sales and they're cancelling him because of a too high ratio and it's not a PPS case where the friend cancelled the trial then I do find it unfair...

After all, he could have simply asked for a "review pass" and give it to his friend for free instead ;) now THAT would be worse for sure? we need more info though, to make a final call.

Thinking on brick and mortar stores... you won't deny that it'd be better to sell stuff to my friends with employee discount or commission, than to steal from the warehouse for them, no?

Joe BrainCash · 03-07-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi

but did they refund those 5 sales then? Cause that would be cheating on their part if they took the members money but didn't pay the affiliate or am I missing something.. I could see how programs might frown on this when doing $100PPS days or something but..

It's still a fraud if it you break the terms and conditions ( assuming the terms of the program in question says you can't have friends or relative sign up through your aff link).

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-07-2009, 06:39 PM

Networks don't like you incentivizing their sales. Makes it too easy for you to spot all the shaving, scrubbing, and assfucking they are doing to their affiliates.

Iron Fist · 03-07-2009, 07:29 PM

always strange if a new affiliate that no ones heard of makes a sale with less than 1:10 to join page.

and it probably doesn't help either if the "friend" is signing up with bogus info or using the same address/information as you are.

SBJ · 03-07-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

always strange if a new affiliate that no ones heard of makes a sale with less than 1:10 to join page.

and it probably doesn't help either if the "friend" is signing up with bogus info or using the same address/information as you are.

see that is the type of fraud I've seen before and I would just think you'd want to refund the sale before the CB.. I guess not dealing with trials or PPS with my own program I don't deal with all the tricks that cheating affiliates try to do

but when i get a new affiliate that makes sales right off the bat i always try to track where his sales/clicks are coming from and sometimes email affiliates if the site they sign up with isn't a live adult site

bdld · 03-07-2009, 07:49 PM

look at this post and you'll see what he's up to.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post14857341

03-07-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bdld

look at this post and you'll see what he's up to.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post14857341

LOL. Friends sign up and pay $30 and he makes $100 a sale.

sicone · 03-07-2009, 10:37 PM

Can you provide your pay to name and I will gladly check all the databases for you

wtfent · 03-07-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by helpanewbie

Hello,
I am new to this affiliate system, I would really appreciate your replies and comments but not making fun out of this silly question

I have friends who sign up for porn sites by directly going to the site and sign up. What I did that I sign up as a webmaster and told my friends to sign up from my link so that I could get some bucks. On doing this, they got the account, I even got sales but at the end of the month, I got an e-mail telling me I did fraud sales and I will not receive the money. Please let me know was it a legal sale or not?
Thanks!

I smell something very fishy!!!

mmcfadden · 03-07-2009, 11:00 PM

If a program pays so high on PPS... why not just phrase it "I will send you $200 dollars if you sign up for my program and I feel you are worth it!"

BTW... I will send you $200 dollars if you promote one of my sites... vstrippoker.com and feel you are worth it!

helpanewbie · 03-08-2009, 03:27 AM

sure, my ratio was

3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?

helpanewbie · 03-08-2009, 03:29 AM

and I dont understand why would I be flagged because I have 3:3 ratio?

abshard · 03-08-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by helpanewbie

and I dont understand why would I be flagged because I have 3:3 ratio?

mule · 03-08-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by helpanewbie

sure, my ratio was

3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?

LOL
Gotta love n00bs

d-null · 03-08-2009, 03:57 AM

is this some kind of creative troll getting their kicks duping us into believing they are just some random retard, or is it really a random retard?

seeandsee · 03-08-2009, 04:17 AM

jesus of the christ

Matt 26z · 03-08-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by helpanewbie

sure, my ratio was

3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?

Fishy, yes. But if you legitimately talked your friends into getting a membership, then you should be paid. If none of them rebilled, then that is the program's fault. They could term you for sending underproductive traffic, but you should still be paid up to that point.

TeenCat · 03-08-2009, 08:14 AM

oh lol people you are funny ... i read first few replies about cancelling etc ... are you that ill? he stated here that he send friend to site for buying a membership for him, to make few bucks, he sent there just those few friends to make him some bucks, and i bet it was pps sales ... what the hell are you thinking about? oh guys its a weekend, but wake up ... and man, go fuck yourself, you landed at the wrong board ...

Furious_Male · 03-08-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Fishy, yes. But if you legitimately talked your friends into getting a membership, then you should be paid. If none of them rebilled, then that is the program's fault. They could term you for sending underproductive traffic, but you should still be paid up to that point.

You know damn well if he talked his friends into getting a membership they aren't rebilling. "Legitimately" doesn't apply here. Sending family or friends is against the TOS of most programs.

Its not the programs fault they aren't rebilling. Its the affiliate using the "sign up under my link and cancel" sales technique. He shouldn't see a dime. If hes paid and terminated for unproductive traffic he can rinse wash and repeat the same scam over and over using numerous epass accounts, aliases etc.

mule · 03-08-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

oh lol people you are funny ... i read first few replies about cancelling etc ... are you that ill? he stated here that he send friend to site for buying a membership for him, to make few bucks, he sent there just those few friends to make him some bucks, and i bet it was pps sales ... what the hell are you thinking about?

This is why some sponsors block eastern bloc countries. It's not that you're inherently dishonest, it's just that you seriously don't see why cheating is wrong

TeenCat · 03-08-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mule

This is why some sponsors block eastern bloc countries. It's not that you're inherently dishonest, it's just that you seriously don't see why cheating is wrong

it looks like you didnt understood me well ...

mmcfadden · 03-08-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

You know damn well if he talked his friends into getting a membership they aren't rebilling. "Legitimately" doesn't apply here. Sending family or friends is against the TOS of most programs.

Its not the programs fault they aren't rebilling. Its the affiliate using the "sign up under my link and cancel" sales technique. He shouldn't see a dime. If hes paid and terminated for unproductive traffic he can rinse wash and repeat the same scam over and over using numerous epass accounts, aliases etc.

No it wouldn't be the programs fault they aren't rebilling... but it is the program's fault setting up such ridiculous payouts which are set to fail in the first place.

fuzebox · 03-08-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

is this some kind of creative troll getting their kicks duping us into believing they are just some random retard, or is it really a random retard?

Obviously a fake nick

Jdoughs · 03-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Juggcash.

They will ban you for fraud for absolutely no fucking reason.

Stay clear.

Furious_Male · 03-08-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

No it wouldn't be the programs fault they aren't rebilling... but it is the program's fault setting up such ridiculous payouts which are set to fail in the first place.

I am glad we agree. Your additional comment is another topic all together.

TeenCat · 03-08-2009, 11:03 AM

i am signed up to almost every program, anyone want to change some pps signups?

SmokeyTheBear · 03-08-2009, 11:23 AM

You wont get any sympathy from gfy. Those huge pps payouts you were after are for incentive not for you to make some extra cash signing up your friends. You arent ripping them off as much as you are ripping off other affiliates who send real join that turn into real profit.

p.s. thank you for keeping the record of "is this a scam" at 100%

Iron Fist · 03-08-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thank you for keeping the record of "is this a scam" at 100%

03-07-2009, 12:48 PM	#1
helpanewbie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	Is this a fraud sale? Hello, I am new to this affiliate system, I would really appreciate your replies and comments but not making fun out of this silly question I have friends who sign up for porn sites by directly going to the site and sign up. What I did that I sign up as a webmaster and told my friends to sign up from my link so that I could get some bucks. On doing this, they got the account, I even got sales but at the end of the month, I got an e-mail telling me I did fraud sales and I will not receive the money. Please let me know was it a legal sale or not? Thanks!

03-07-2009, 12:51 PM	#3
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03-07-2009, 04:36 PM	#6
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03-07-2009, 12:49 PM	#2
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	Seems like it

03-07-2009, 04:55 PM	#9
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

03-07-2009, 06:33 PM	#12
AnniKN Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South of the border Posts: 1,682	If he says "some bucks" I am guessing it's a revshare program, if he made other sales and they're cancelling him because of a too high ratio and it's not a PPS case where the friend cancelled the trial then I do find it unfair... After all, he could have simply asked for a "review pass" and give it to his friend for free instead ;) now THAT would be worse for sure? we need more info though, to make a final call. Thinking on brick and mortar stores... you won't deny that it'd be better to sell stuff to my friends with employee discount or commission, than to steal from the warehouse for them, no? __________________ StraponCash \| HDPays Need affordable Photo Retouching, Video Editing, Design, Coding, Writing or Data Entry? 435-155-252 Last edited by AnniKN; 03-07-2009 at 06:35 PM..

03-07-2009, 06:39 PM	#14
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03-07-2009, 07:29 PM	#15
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	always strange if a new affiliate that no ones heard of makes a sale with less than 1:10 to join page. and it probably doesn't help either if the "friend" is signing up with bogus info or using the same address/information as you are. __________________ i like waffles

03-07-2009, 07:49 PM	#17
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	look at this post and you'll see what he's up to. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post14857341

03-07-2009, 10:37 PM	#19
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03-07-2009, 11:00 PM	#21
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	If a program pays so high on PPS... why not just phrase it "I will send you $200 dollars if you sign up for my program and I feel you are worth it!" BTW... I will send you $200 dollars if you promote one of my sites... vstrippoker.com and feel you are worth it!

03-08-2009, 03:27 AM	#22
helpanewbie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	sure, my ratio was 3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?

03-08-2009, 03:29 AM	#23
helpanewbie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	and I dont understand why would I be flagged because I have 3:3 ratio?

03-08-2009, 03:57 AM	#26
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03-08-2009, 08:14 AM	#29
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03-08-2009, 11:03 AM	#37
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03-08-2009, 11:23 AM	#38
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	You wont get any sympathy from gfy. Those huge pps payouts you were after are for incentive not for you to make some extra cash signing up your friends. You arent ripping them off as much as you are ripping off other affiliates who send real join that turn into real profit. p.s. thank you for keeping the record of "is this a scam" at 100% __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com