I own a mainstream biz. Is it worth it to shoot my own content for my website? - GoFuckYourself.com

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 12:54 AM

I own a brick and mortar mainstream biz where customers have to deal with me directly sometime. This business is not year round though and i really only work hard 4 months out the year, giving me plenty of time for porn. Ive actually been in "adult" longer though, because i actually bought an established franchise. Ive wanted to dive into producing my own content for sometime. I guess im worried about losing the anonymity that being in an affiliate program provides. Im thinking of something "pov" style with an interesting twist in a under developed niche. How have some of you who shoot for yourselves remained anonymous? I mean eventually doesnt someone recognize you even if they dont see your face wont they recognize the voice? What kind of camera equipment is good to start with? And above all should i just stick to being an affiliate? Maybe i just want to experiment, but i have always been intrigued by having "total control" of my own content and product. Opinions please. Thanks.

JimmiDean · 03-14-2009, 04:49 AM

If you are afraid of being seen stay out of it sooner or later some one always finds out.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-14-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Im thinking of something "pov" style

Of course you are

jMEGA · 03-14-2009, 06:30 AM

OMG are you the same Tony Parra that owns a business down the street?!?

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Of course you are

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jMEGA

OMG are you the same Tony Parra that owns a business down the street?!?

Maybe...

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 06:50 AM

I figuired some people would have fun with this at my expense...it was one of those burning questions....

maxjohan · 03-14-2009, 07:04 AM

Why not hire someone to shoot for you?

Easy.

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Why not hire someone to shoot for you?

Easy.

I hate paying people.

Cherry7 · 03-14-2009, 09:20 AM

Will you be paying the Models?

The make up girl ?

etc?

tonyparra · 03-14-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Will you be paying the Models?

The make up girl ?

etc?

Well sort of i wont be using "professional" models so i wont need makeup. Mostly amatuer first time on video girls.

Reak AGV · 03-14-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I hate paying people.

Omg, dont start in this business.

PornAddict · 03-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Brutally honest answer...

The internet can do without another new amateur pov website for now... we're all set.

However, I don't want to knock another man's hustle so if you've got a burning desire to do it, then do it. You'll (most likely) lose money in it for a long time... but who cares, you're having fun and getting laid.

Wanna test the waters? Shoot a couple scenes, throw them up on clips4sale and see what they do. The paysite game is ruthless these days. The little guy stands next to no chance in making a dent anymore. The competition is just too fierce... plus, only assholes join websites anymore. Porn is free these days (sarcastic... but true).

- PornAddict

Barefootsies · 03-14-2009, 02:46 PM

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http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/893681-mature-foot-fetish-sponsors-2008-2009-spam.html

Good luck.

mmcfadden · 03-14-2009, 02:51 PM

nice to see some construction friends on board. you can do anything ya want man... making a dollar from it is the other end.
feel free to email me at mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com to discuss

F-U-Jimmy · 03-14-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I hate paying people.

Thanks for the heads up

Reak AGV · 03-14-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Read here..
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/893517-tossing-starting-paysite-gf.html
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/893681-mature-foot-fetish-sponsors-2008-2009-spam.html

Good luck.

Good call Barefootsies

After Shock Media · 03-14-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I hate paying people.

Then you really should not be in business for yourself. No ability to delegate and pay others to do it for you is just a major handicap and screams that you should be a worker and not an owner.

PS if you wish to remain anonymous, I hope you have a really good plan on dealing with the 2257 laws - past, present, and future.

Barefootsies · 03-14-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reak AGV

Good call Barefootsies

eroticsexxx · 03-14-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmiDean

If you are afraid of being seen stay out of it sooner or later some one always finds out.

Good advice for anyone who wants to make a sensible return from adult entertainment.

nickey1952 · 03-14-2009, 07:08 PM

Hire professionals to shoot your content, hire talent to do the biz for you, when the fbi comes knocking at your door cause of the strangest problem with anything you will not have to worry. you will never remain anonymous no matter what all they have to do is look at the 2257 on your stuff and there your covers are blown...

tonyparra · 03-15-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Then you really should not be in business for yourself. No ability to delegate and pay others to do it for you is just a major handicap and screams that you should be a worker and not an owner.

PS if you wish to remain anonymous, I hope you have a really good plan on dealing with the 2257 laws - past, present, and future.

I love to delegate i just dont like to pay for it

...paying employees can be stressful they always feel like they are worth much more than they are, they call off, some try and cheat you, they steal, etc etc

HorseShit · 03-15-2009, 11:37 AM

you sound like a scared chick

Cherry7 · 03-15-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I love to delegate i just dont like to pay for it

...paying employees can be stressful they always feel like they are worth much more than they are, they call off, some try and cheat you, they steal, etc etc

Of course they are worth more than you pay them ! thats capitalism. Hence a capitalist pays a worker $x and the worker produces goods of value $x+y. y is your profit.

Try reading Capital by Karl Marx for full explanation....

Sebastian Sands · 03-15-2009, 09:49 PM

you want to start shooting your own content, ofcourse POV because you need to get off too right?
You hate paying people and you aren't worried as you will be using amateurs and first timers, so you won't pay them?

To be brutally honest, you're just looking to get laid with chicks you normally won't have a chance with, but the idea of you being able to tell the " i can make you a great model" or " can make you famous, all you have to do is is test shoot with me" is something you think will get you more pussy.

If you are serious, then maybe start with some research and learn about testing and 2257, go out and spend some decent money on gear, this investment will make you want to earn money with it and the pussy becomes less important. otherwise, get a hooker from craigslist and think about other things then adult.

Oh, and I am pretty sure you won't find a designer unless you pay upfront after the comment about hating to pay people.

Good luck

Ozarkz · 03-15-2009, 10:11 PM

Lots more to a paysite than filming and fucking..

Getting Girls, Filming, Editing, Hosting, Site dev, marketing, Billing, legal, equipment, etc..

The internet is a big place... Your content will be like a needle in a haystack..

tonyparra · 03-17-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

you want to start shooting your own content, ofcourse POV because you need to get off too right?
You hate paying people and you aren't worried as you will be using amateurs and first timers, so you won't pay them?

To be brutally honest, you're just looking to get laid with chicks you normally won't have a chance with, but the idea of you being able to tell the " i can make you a great model" or " can make you famous, all you have to do is is test shoot with me" is something you think will get you more pussy.

If you are serious, then maybe start with some research and learn about testing and 2257, go out and spend some decent money on gear, this investment will make you want to earn money with it and the pussy becomes less important. otherwise, get a hooker from craigslist and think about other things then adult.

Oh, and I am pretty sure you won't find a designer unless you pay upfront after the comment about hating to pay people.

Good luck

Um did you read before you went off on me? Lets retrace, ok?

I was off so i didnt have a chance to respond. First while im "new" Im not really a "noob", Im still learning. I actually have several adult domains and a couple of websites. One of which i will be using your content on.

Im not looking to get laid with hot chicks i would not otherwise be able too. In fact because of my other business and because i have friends with big mouths, i frequently get approached by women looking to make a quick buck. They hear that i have a website next thing i know Im getting questions. How much i make, how easy is it, how much could they make etc etc...
I work also part-time at a job (im a busy guy) with mostly all male staff with money (pornographers paradise, not mcds

) Of course me being the enterprising person i am i have showed these guys my site. Some love it and sign up there on the spot on my laptop. Others go out and blab to others and chicks, so thats how i get so many inquiries.
Ok, back to the main premise i explain to people that im just a affiliate etc etc but they wont stop/ dont understand. Truthfully i really dont want to be on camera but this seems the cheapest and quickest way to get set up. Also i think my 2 biggest questions were: How profitable will or can it be for the single operator, and the risk involved. I love adult i have made some decent extra change from it probably could make more doing what i do now, but like i said i im interested in truly "owning" a business.
Oh back to the employees deal: I had 17 employees at one point this year (mainstream), so i know plenty. Thanks.

tonyparra · 03-17-2009, 02:42 PM

Thanks to all the great suggestions and commentary so far!!!

Sebastian Sands · 03-18-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Um did you read before you went off on me? Lets retrace, ok?

I was off so i didnt have a chance to respond. First while im "new" Im not really a "noob", Im still learning. I actually have several adult domains and a couple of websites. One of which i will be using your content on.

Im not looking to get laid with hot chicks i would not otherwise be able too. In fact because of my other business and because i have friends with big mouths, i frequently get approached by women looking to make a quick buck. They hear that i have a website next thing i know Im getting questions. How much i make, how easy is it, how much could they make etc etc...
I work also part-time at a job (im a busy guy) with mostly all male staff with money (pornographers paradise, not mcds

) Of course me being the enterprising person i am i have showed these guys my site. Some love it and sign up there on the spot on my laptop. Others go out and blab to others and chicks, so thats how i get so many inquiries.
Ok, back to the main premise i explain to people that im just a affiliate etc etc but they wont stop/ dont understand. Truthfully i really dont want to be on camera but this seems the cheapest and quickest way to get set up. Also i think my 2 biggest questions were: How profitable will or can it be for the single operator, and the risk involved. I love adult i have made some decent extra change from it probably could make more doing what i do now, but like i said i im interested in truly "owning" a business.
Oh back to the employees deal: I had 17 employees at one point this year (mainstream), so i know plenty. Thanks.

I didn't go "off" on you, I said I was going to be brutally honest as to how your post looked. A lot of people want to do this and some can pull it off and do a great job and make good money in the process, Jay Rock for example. He took things serious and did the right thing he invested a bunch in gear and started creating great content and seems to be doing well. But 95% of the people that come on here saying they want to start shooting pov content they do it for the wrong reasons.

If you have some resources to shoot never before seen girls and can keep that flow going and you shoot quality stuff then sure you can do well. As long as you keep in mind that at the end of the day you need to have money in your pocket, if you got your nut off on top of it then that's a bonus. Most only worry about getting their nut off though.

I also wished you good luck, which I wish everyone that wants to start, because i know how hard it is.

Redmanthatcould · 03-18-2009, 11:45 AM

You sell Halloween costumes in your B&M?

TrainWreckContent · 03-18-2009, 11:57 AM

if you have the equipment and access to models i would do it yourself....this way you get exactly what you want

vod · 03-18-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Lots more to a paysite than filming and fucking..

Getting Girls, Filming, Editing, Hosting, Site dev, marketing, Billing, legal, equipment, etc..

The internet is a big place... Your content will be like a needle in a haystack..

I second that...

pay per minute is even harder with more expense... let us do it for you ;- ) XonDemand

tonyparra · 03-18-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

You sell Halloween costumes in your B&M?

No, seems to be an interesting racket though please explain your business.

tonyparra · 03-18-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

I didn't go "off" on you, I said I was going to be brutally honest as to how your post looked. A lot of people want to do this and some can pull it off and do a great job and make good money in the process, Jay Rock for example. He took things serious and did the right thing he invested a bunch in gear and started creating great content and seems to be doing well. But 95% of the people that come on here saying they want to start shooting pov content they do it for the wrong reasons.

If you have some resources to shoot never before seen girls and can keep that flow going and you shoot quality stuff then sure you can do well. As long as you keep in mind that at the end of the day you need to have money in your pocket, if you got your nut off on top of it then that's a bonus. Most only worry about getting their nut off though.

I also wished you good luck, which I wish everyone that wants to start, because i know how hard it is.

tonyparra · 03-18-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vod

I second that...

pay per minute is even harder with more expense... let us do it for you ;- ) XonDemand

I was thinking about that route...ill be in.. contact when i work things out...

Redmanthatcould · 03-18-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

No, seems to be an interesting racket though please explain your business.

It's not my business. I have a buddy that's been with a company for a few years now that does this. They have the super high-end (like $600 replica darth vader costumes), to the b.s. $30 stuff.

The reason I ask is 'cause you mentioned 4 months, which is about how long they are busy, and then the rest of the year is just random orders they get.

tonyparra · 03-18-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

It's not my business. I have a buddy that's been with a company for a few years now that does this. They have the super high-end (like $600 replica darth vader costumes), to the b.s. $30 stuff.

The reason I ask is 'cause you mentioned 4 months, which is about how long they are busy, and then the rest of the year is just random orders they get.

Wow Jeff you really pay attention to what people actually say, Im sure that helps you as an affiliate manager. Im being very sincere. Im glad you and some of the other more experienced people have really listened. But no thats not it. Im actually in the middle of my busy season now.

_Richard_ · 03-18-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jMEGA

OMG are you the same Tony Parra that owns a business down the street?!?

Barefootsies · 03-18-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Thanks to all the great suggestions and commentary so far!!!

pornguy · 03-18-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PornAddict

Brutally honest answer...

The internet can do without another new amateur pov website for now... we're all set.

However, I don't want to knock another man's hustle so if you've got a burning desire to do it, then do it. You'll (most likely) lose money in it for a long time... but who cares, you're having fun and getting laid.

Hehe.. Yeah and most likely since he will be paying for it, its illegal in the state he lives in.

Better be careful.

tonyparra · 03-18-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Hehe.. Yeah and most likely since he will be paying for it, its illegal in the state he lives in.

Better be careful.

Gosh you guys are all so doom and gloom!

03-14-2009, 12:54 AM	#1
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	I own a mainstream biz. Is it worth it to shoot my own content for my website? I own a brick and mortar mainstream biz where customers have to deal with me directly sometime. This business is not year round though and i really only work hard 4 months out the year, giving me plenty of time for porn. Ive actually been in "adult" longer though, because i actually bought an established franchise. Ive wanted to dive into producing my own content for sometime. I guess im worried about losing the anonymity that being in an affiliate program provides. Im thinking of something "pov" style with an interesting twist in a under developed niche. How have some of you who shoot for yourselves remained anonymous? I mean eventually doesnt someone recognize you even if they dont see your face wont they recognize the voice? What kind of camera equipment is good to start with? And above all should i just stick to being an affiliate? Maybe i just want to experiment, but i have always been intrigued by having "total control" of my own content and product. Opinions please. Thanks.

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PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	Brutally honest answer... The internet can do without another new amateur pov website for now... we're all set. However, I don't want to knock another man's hustle so if you've got a burning desire to do it, then do it. You'll (most likely) lose money in it for a long time... but who cares, you're having fun and getting laid. Wanna test the waters? Shoot a couple scenes, throw them up on clips4sale and see what they do. The paysite game is ruthless these days. The little guy stands next to no chance in making a dent anymore. The competition is just too fierce... plus, only assholes join websites anymore. Porn is free these days (sarcastic... but true). - PornAddict

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mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	nice to see some construction friends on board. you can do anything ya want man... making a dollar from it is the other end. feel free to email me at mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com to discuss

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nickey1952 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 669	Hire professionals to shoot your content, hire talent to do the biz for you, when the fbi comes knocking at your door cause of the strangest problem with anything you will not have to worry. you will never remain anonymous no matter what all they have to do is look at the 2257 on your stuff and there your covers are blown...

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HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	you sound like a scared chick

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Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	you want to start shooting your own content, ofcourse POV because you need to get off too right? You hate paying people and you aren't worried as you will be using amateurs and first timers, so you won't pay them? To be brutally honest, you're just looking to get laid with chicks you normally won't have a chance with, but the idea of you being able to tell the " i can make you a great model" or " can make you famous, all you have to do is is test shoot with me" is something you think will get you more pussy. If you are serious, then maybe start with some research and learn about testing and 2257, go out and spend some decent money on gear, this investment will make you want to earn money with it and the pussy becomes less important. otherwise, get a hooker from craigslist and think about other things then adult. Oh, and I am pretty sure you won't find a designer unless you pay upfront after the comment about hating to pay people. Good luck

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Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	Lots more to a paysite than filming and fucking.. Getting Girls, Filming, Editing, Hosting, Site dev, marketing, Billing, legal, equipment, etc.. The internet is a big place... Your content will be like a needle in a haystack..

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tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	Thanks to all the great suggestions and commentary so far!!!

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Redmanthatcould Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,771	You sell Halloween costumes in your B&M?

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TrainWreckContent Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Under a Train Wreck Posts: 8,128	if you have the equipment and access to models i would do it yourself....this way you get exactly what you want