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Old 03-27-2009, 08:46 PM   #51
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Hi Steve, I just added you on ICQ, but I don't see you yet. When you have a moment, can you please hit me up at 337070007. Monday is fine if you are done for the day.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:56 AM   #52
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will the new stats system let me add campaigns like ND does?
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:31 AM   #53
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My account was terminated also, I'm British citizen. My partner's account was also terminated.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:01 AM   #54
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I'm a non-US account holder, been with them since 2003 and my account has not been terminated.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:26 AM   #55
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Been with them for ages. Then some months ago I noticed that stats weren't updating, got on ICQ and was told that they wanted a copy of my passport...sent it, was told it would be fixed. Stats started working again, so I forgot about it.
When I saw this thread I logged in to check, sure enough, I'm banned too.

Would have been nice of the fuckers just to inform me so that I could remove their links.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:40 AM   #56
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i was also terminated wtf! hitting u up when i wakeup steve!
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:37 AM   #57
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BangBross is only company who banned my as their affiliate, andreson is that I'm sending them fake sinups... when I recomanded them to go on revshare program they refuse it.

Of course I always work fer whit all programs and never ask someone to singup via my reff link.

But now Im sending sales to other companies that are much more fer then BangBroos
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:40 AM   #58
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they canned mine a year or two ago without warning. they said it was chargebacks. like i can control that shit. i have nothing to do with bb or nd now.
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:54 AM   #59
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i can do a lot more if you guys talk to me on a one on one basis than i can hashing this out here....438528520
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whats your affiliate id and i can see what the problem is...as i've stated several times.
It's not there job to make sure you have not canned them for no reason. IT'S YOUR JOB.

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first off, as many as i know out there in the webmaster world and what not, i don't have everyone memorized by their board name and affiliate id. for many to really address any issues, i need to know your actual id because it may seem like its one individual problem for everyone but its not. i have to look into everyone one by one.
YOU CANNED PEOPLE YOU DID NOT KNOW WHO THEY WERE? I'LL BET YOU STILL TAKE THEIR TRAFFIC.

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yes we did recently upgrade our software. it was done with the intention of making everyone's life easier. so it could be a problem there, or it could be something else. like i said, you have to get in touch with me and i'll do my best to see what is going on and try to address it.
Using logic here it seems you changed your software and this canceled a LOT of webmasters. Fire the guy in charge of checking the software and the guy who saw the drop in affiliates payments and did not check it out. Or is this a weak excuse?

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i'm on icq at 438528520 and by email at [email protected]. do be aware, yes some people were terminated and it will stay that way. its not like we wake up, bored, and decide to terminate people. some of the reasons you guys are speaking of, such as we just don't want to pay people out, are simply not true. we are fair and pay you out as long as it is justified. we have nothing to gain by ripping webmasters off.
Well it seems that you must of ignored or not seen many webmaster accounts being canceled and your share of the join fees going up. This does not look like an isolated incident.

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as much as you want to call us evil, scammers, etc. we aren't here to do that, and yeah it sucks you think that of us. if you don't want to promote us, so be it.
Have you emailed all your webmasters, active dormant and canceled yet?

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i'd honestly would rather have all of you msg me privately because everyone has different issues, and i don't want to have to recheck this thread every 5 mins while i take on a bunch of different things.
It's not an affiliates job to go through your system and see if they have been canceled. It's your job. Especially now. You know there's a major problem now and these complaints are not the only ones. Or do you want to ONLY CORRECT those who see the thread? Because that is what it is, if you want people to contact you.

This thread should be posted on every board and people should know they have to tell Bang Bros if they have been canceled. Because Bang Bros can't check it themselves. I'm sure their program will isolate the accounts canceled, date, reason and whether the affiliate was notified. Maybe not the last one because it's much easier (better) if the affiliates tell them.

All those who have been canceled can now check their stats and see what they have lost on average since they were canceled for no reason and the traffic kept flowing.

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Why the fuck is everyone kicking Steve in the stones over this? He's doing his best to help everyone out and getting nothing but grief.
Maybe it's because they deserve it. It's obvious from Steve's reply that he only wants to look into the affiliates who read the boards and screw the rest.

If a canceled affiliate has received an email then I'm being unfair about the emails. If not it's more indication to their position on this.
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:02 AM   #60
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BangBros is a business not a charity. If the sign-ups you send don't make them money they cannot continue to accept you traffic. Not trying to speak for them but they have to make money somehow. I know it sucks but maybe your traffic will work better with another program.
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:05 AM   #61
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It's not there job to make sure you have not canned them for no reason. IT'S YOUR JOB.

YOU CANNED PEOPLE YOU DID NOT KNOW WHO THEY WERE? I'LL BET YOU STILL TAKE THEIR TRAFFIC.


Using logic here it seems you changed your software and this canceled a LOT of webmasters. Fire the guy in charge of checking the software and the guy who saw the drop in affiliates payments and did not check it out. Or is this a weak excuse?

Well it seems that you must of ignored or not seen many webmaster accounts being canceled and your share of the join fees going up. This does not look like an isolated incident.

Have you emailed all your webmasters, active dormant and canceled yet?


It's not an affiliates job to go through your system and see if they have been canceled. It's your job. Especially now. You know there's a major problem now and these complaints are not the only ones. Or do you want to ONLY CORRECT those who see the thread? Because that is what it is, if you want people to contact you.

This thread should be posted on every board and people should know they have to tell Bang Bros if they have been canceled. Because Bang Bros can't check it themselves. I'm sure their program will isolate the accounts canceled, date, reason and whether the affiliate was notified. Maybe not the last one because it's much easier (better) if the affiliates tell them.

All those who have been canceled can now check their stats and see what they have lost on average since they were canceled for no reason and the traffic kept flowing.

Maybe it's because they deserve it. It's obvious from Steve's reply that he only wants to look into the affiliates who read the boards and screw the rest.

If a canceled affiliate has received an email then I'm being unfair about the emails. If not it's more indication to their position on this.

I agree with the point that if a program cancels an affiliates account they should be sent an email. Unless its fraud which so many are these days then fuck em, as they are trying to fuck you.
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:31 AM   #62
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BangBros is a business not a charity. If the sign-ups you send don't make them money they cannot continue to accept you traffic. Not trying to speak for them but they have to make money somehow. I know it sucks but maybe your traffic will work better with another program.
I'm just realizing that my account was terminated and traffic was sent from the same page and in the same manner that I send traffic to you....

So I just think this was a major fuckup as I have NO REASON to promote them in a shady fashion....All I do with any sponsor is slap up a banner.

I guess I have some bangbros banners to un-slap.
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I agree with the point that if a program cancels an affiliates account they should be sent an email. Unless its fraud which so many are these days then fuck em, as they are trying to fuck you.
I see what you're saying.

However then they can say they canceled you for fraud so didn't send the mail. But now that you have brought it to their attention and they have investigated further. They are letting you back in.

THEY SHOULD ALWAYS INFORM YOU.

Unless they just want a get out clause.

So did any of the canceled guys get an email BEFORE they brought it ti Bang Bros attention?

In this case it's clearly them trying to keep money affiliates earned. Call that what you like.
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I feel your pain they are not honest. Think about this, we can't trust banks and stock brokers you think we can trust big companies that shoot porn? Use your brain.
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I am convinced you guys are scammers out to make as much money as you can. Yes you have nice sites and good content but that just means you spend alot of money on those things. You are stealing webmaster traffic by not telling them they are termed. So you get to keep the traffic and sign ups and you hope they never figure out what happened. Then they have to come on a fucking message board to get your attention...... your icq number is not on the bangbros site. Fuck you
You have some fucking nerve saying you cant TRUST them.

YOU RIPPED MY DVDS AND USED IT AS CONTENT ON YOUR PAYSITE! YOU ARE A THIEF TOO!

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hey do me a favor and get in touch with me. i'll square this away but i need more info about whats going on from your side. i'm on icq at 438528520
I did you a favor, I post it on JBM and I think you should check out the Pond and B&B.

This is going to need some major work.

Have you sent an email yet or still waiting for the victims to contact you?
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YOU RIPPED MY DVDS AND USED IT AS CONTENT ON YOUR PAYSITE! YOU ARE A THIEF TOO!

ITS CALLED KARMA JACKASS!
First off faggot I explained to you what happened the webmaster bought the content and as soon as you cried to ccbill I took it down. So fuck off you fat faggot bitch. And since your running your mouth I will give the content away for free.

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first off faggot i explained to you what happened the webmaster bought the content and as soon as you cried to ccbill i took it down. So fuck off you fat faggot bitch. And since your running your mouth i will give the content away for free.
You do that.

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I'm just realizing that my account was terminated and traffic was sent from the same page and in the same manner that I send traffic to you....

So I just think this was a major fuckup as I have NO REASON to promote them in a shady fashion....All I do with any sponsor is slap up a banner.

I guess I have some bangbros banners to un-slap.
You were most likely not terminated and everything is still tracking. The problem is with the upgraded software, some people are having trouble logging in, the default message says "termination" so people assume the worse, it's not correct. We don't know all the affected accounts, so we just need people to contact us and we can work it out.

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I see what you're saying.

In this case it's clearly them trying to keep money affiliates earned. Call that what you like.
As i've stated before, 90% of the people seeing a "terminated message" are not actually terminated, it's a software bug thats being worked out. It's not affecting everybody.

And to debunk your point of us "clearly keeping their money" if you are terminated for chargebacks, fraud, or anything like that. We automatically refund all your transactions and any future ones that might come in. Please tell me how we make money from that? It actually costs us money and manpower to do that.
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As i've stated before, 90% of the people seeing a "terminated message" are not actually terminated, it's a software bug thats being worked out. It's not affecting everybody.

And to debunk your point of us "clearly keeping their money" if you are terminated for chargebacks, fraud, or anything like that. We automatically refund all your transactions and any future ones that might come in. Please tell me how we make money from that? It actually costs us money and manpower to do that.
Very sorry for assuming you would make money from the affiliates who did not see the threads on the boards and got you to check your system. I assume then that you are now emailing everyone for them to test their logins. Or are you still waiting for people to contact you? How will everyone find out?

Sorry as well, that it will cost you money to fix your mistakes.

These thoughts just came to me. Of the people who suffered from this problem how many were medium to large affiliates sending a good number or even a steady flow of monthly joins? Seems to me if one of these were randomly given the termination notice, they would of been on to you right away. Or was it just hitting the guys who might not notice it?

Personally I think you need to run your excuses and post by a sceptic for him to see how they sound.
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the default message says "termination" so people assume the worse, it's not correct.
Not quite. The default message was "banned", so it's a small step to assume that one is being accused of fraud.
I see it's been changed now, so at least that's something.
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charge back was problem at me too, not fake singups, but still don't know why they don't move me on revshare. anyway I don't give a shit anymore for them.
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Steve is acting very professional, you guys could learn something.

Bang/ Nasty is one of the best converting and most reliable sponsors out there.

If you got as much traffic as they get.. maybe you would not post contact info on your website.
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charge backs was also the reason why my account was terminated.

usually when a charge back occurs it gets deducted from your account. i am perplexed as to why bang bros pays out. no one else does.
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Funny how Paul M is talking about canned accounts lol Remember how you just canned us over nothing Paul?

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wish they ran NATS

i might actually give them some kind of trust then
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Steve is acting very professional, you guys could learn something.

Bang/ Nasty is one of the best converting and most reliable sponsors out there.

If you got as much traffic as they get.. maybe you would not post contact info on your website.
I dunno... he may have hos "bro badge" but this whole episode has left a bad taste in the mouths of many it seems.
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wish they ran NATS

i might actually give them some kind of trust then
I think nats is great and I think the nats guys are all great. We have been on the same software since even before Nats was around and our support is excellent. Would not make much sense changing at this point.
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I dunno... he may have hos "bro badge" but this whole episode has left a bad taste in the mouths of many it seems.
Have you ever heard the saying "making mountains out of molehills." this is what this situation was. Some people had trouble logging in after we upgraded our software. The default message was "banned" instead of "error" or "contact support" (now it's changed)

Most people contacted us and were like "hey why was i banned?" and we fixed it immediately and they understood it was just a login issue. Other people ran to GFY and other boards attacking us THEN contacting us and THEN realizing it was an error and they were then allowed to login.

This whole issue affected under 15 people, no matter how many "posts" by people involved and mainly people not involved posting. I have seen some of the craziest shit in the last week in regards to this then i have in the last 7 years on these boards. Crazy theories from people I thought possessed intelligence, everything from us stealing money to using the patriot act to deal with foreign affiliates (insane). At the end of the day it was login issue that affected very few people and it was blown out of proportion.
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I'm Canadian and so far my account is fine.
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i might actually give them some kind of trust then
Really? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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For more than 7 years now I've been an affiliate of one RK Net Media program or another. Currently I send quite a few joins to their programs combined.

There's very few companies that stand the test of time like Nasty Dollars and Bang Bros and I can tell you there's even fewer I can rely 100% on getting paid from and taken care of by. There's no company I trust more with my traffic and any of you jumping to insane conclusions about their credibility are just being absurd.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:14 AM   #87
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...... There's no company I trust more with my traffic and any of you jumping to insane conclusions about their credibility are just being absurd.
Wellllllllll... ummm..... let's just say that every company has a "past" and sometimes it's not all that pretty... LOL
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:59 AM   #88
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I've had an account with them for years... and its been a few years since I've done anything, but this thread is AWESOME advertising for a program like BangBros...

They're good people, in my books and I had no problems logging into my account for the first time in probably 3 years

Might have to put my site back up and start promoting again... and you can bet yer ass there'll be banners of theirs up
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:21 AM   #89
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Have you ever heard the saying "making mountains out of molehills." this is what this situation was. Some people had trouble logging in after we upgraded our software. The default message was "banned" instead of "error" or "contact support" (now it's changed)

Most people contacted us and were like "hey why was i banned?" and we fixed it immediately and they understood it was just a login issue. Other people ran to GFY and other boards attacking us THEN contacting us and THEN realizing it was an error and they were then allowed to login.

This whole issue affected under 15 people, no matter how many "posts" by people involved and mainly people not involved posting. I have seen some of the craziest shit in the last week in regards to this then i have in the last 7 years on these boards. Crazy theories from people I thought possessed intelligence, everything from us stealing money to using the patriot act to deal with foreign affiliates (insane). At the end of the day it was login issue that affected very few people and it was blown out of proportion.
I can't speak for others obviously, and I too have seen a few crazy theories, but to state this thing is a mountain out of a molehill doesn't hold true.

My OP - I contacted you, you asked for a passport scan. "To reactivate this account we require that you verify your ID with us. You can do this by sending us a copy of your passport". To solve the login issue I assume. I do so, and get an email back, stating my accounts have both been banned. I ask why, and get "Sorry but we are unable to reactivate your account. from a business standpoint we cannot reopen your accounts". I email again, and get "The reason your accounts are closed is due to a high number of chargebacks. This means it is costing us money to keep your account active".

Was I told my account had been banned? Nope. Were you still accepting my traffic? Yep.

Here's what I don't get:
Why wasn't I sent an email telling me my account was banned?
If my traffic is high-risk, and is costing you money, why were you still taking it?
If my problem was just a login issue, why do you need my passport?
If my issue wasn't a login problem, and the passport scan was needed to verify myself, due to another problem, ie CBs, why do you state here that this entire thing is a simple login problem that is easily taken care of?
Why am I seeing people across boards stating their recently closed accounts are due to CBs?
How am I getting a high CB ratio on an account that hasn't sent a sale since October 2008?
Why is it taking so long - since Friday 3pm my time and counting - 92 hours so far - to get the CB stats I requested?
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:50 AM   #90
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I can't speak for others obviously, and I too have seen a few crazy theories, but to state this thing is a mountain out of a molehill doesn't hold true.

My OP - I contacted you, you asked for a passport scan. "To reactivate this account we require that you verify your ID with us. You can do this by sending us a copy of your passport". To solve the login issue I assume. I do so, and get an email back, stating my accounts have both been banned. I ask why, and get "Sorry but we are unable to reactivate your account. from a business standpoint we cannot reopen your accounts". I email again, and get "The reason your accounts are closed is due to a high number of chargebacks. This means it is costing us money to keep your account active".

Was I told my account had been banned? Nope. Were you still accepting my traffic? Yep.

Here's what I don't get:
Why wasn't I sent an email telling me my account was banned?
If my traffic is high-risk, and is costing you money, why were you still taking it?
If my problem was just a login issue, why do you need my passport?
If my issue wasn't a login problem, and the passport scan was needed to verify myself, due to another problem, ie CBs, why do you state here that this entire thing is a simple login problem that is easily taken care of?
Why am I seeing people across boards stating their recently closed accounts are due to CBs?
How am I getting a high CB ratio on an account that hasn't sent a sale since October 2008?
Why is it taking so long - since Friday 3pm my time and counting - 92 hours so far - to get the CB stats I requested?
I don't think that was making a mountain out of a mole hill and any problems BB got they brought on themselves.

Am I an affiliate? Frankly if that were the an absolute criteria that everyone had to have before they flamed a site I would love it. It never has been a criteria and never will be. But I was flamed for it by Jordan and a few others.

This is my criticism of BB.
They are relying on affiliates to contact them, they made the mistake and it should be the other way around.

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Most people contacted us and were like "hey why was i banned?" and we fixed it immediately and they understood it was just a login issue. Other people ran to GFY and other boards attacking us THEN contacting us and THEN realizing it was an error and they were then allowed to login.
It seems to me that unless Jel had "Run to the Boards." He would still be banned. How many other people as well is a guessing game.

BB got upset when it post it on other boards, they had not posted and neither had anyone else. If they rely on boards to get the news around why are they complaining about people posting it on boards? I take this back if they sent out an email, but we all know how well emails work.

Is it only 15? unless they have gone through their system how do they know, or is it only 15 who contacted them? How many have seen the thread, logged in and seen the problem and said "Fuck it, time to move links."

Also from the response here, the Pond and B&B there seems to be more.

So Steve if you are the stand up guys you and others claim to be go through your logs and find all those who can't log in from the update and go through their logs with a fine tooth comb. No need to ask for a passport to put right your mistakes.

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I dunno... he may have hos "bro badge" but this whole episode has left a bad taste in the mouths of many it seems.
Some who will post and many who will not. BB needs to do more work on this and stop pointing fingers. They made the mistake and should not be relying on affiliates to contact them. And not flaming people for spreading the news.

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Funny how Paul M is talking about canned accounts lol Remember how you just canned us over nothing Paul?

LOL
It was not over nothing. You canned me and I canned you. What's the problem you can send your traffic to others.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:49 AM   #91
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first off we have never pointed fingers or deferred blame from anyone. we said there was a problem, we are doing our best to fix. so paul i don't know where that comes from. yeah we were all confused as to why you were trying to instigate on another board when you aren't an affiliate(which if i recall correctly not a single person of the 40 or so posts supported you). we don't get into your business about content, and i know you're trying to say "i'm looking out for everyone else" or "ethics". but it makes our jobs a lot easier trying to fix everyone we can instead of causing/creating more rumors.

jel, i'm sorry i wasn't given your cb stats over the weekend. most people don't work over the weekend(not referring to myself). then i was given the wrong dates for you yesterday. then when i told you this you told me to forget it, you said cancel your other account with us(which i didn't yet). so please don't go and add this to our "lack of business". you said forget it, i moved on. do i want to lose you as an affiliate? not at all. but you said you can't do business with us, so be it.

you few guys are really trying to blow something out of proportion. a small, small percentage of people have been affected compared to our numbers of affiliates we have. i have dealt with everyone that has msged or emailed me, including seeking out those that were saying they had a problem but weren't getting in touch with me. (i guess this makes me a stand up guy now paul). as i've said several times, i'm available at 438528520 or [email protected]
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:30 AM   #92
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wow ... week or so back i was putting bangbros to many sites on my network ... today, i checked after reading first post in this and i cannot login also, my account is dead ... i havent received anything, nobody told me whats up ... now i can only say, doesnt matter how big reputation bangbros has, FUCK OFF BANGBROS YOU MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLES FUCKING WITH YOUR AFFILIATES!. fucking low practices, thank you for wasting about a day of my work, i will not send you anything to get more time wasted ... BANGBROS YOU ARE A FUCKING BITCHES! i am sick big sponsors as you must act like fucking scamming bitch! howgh ... i write while i am at it, so enjoy all words i had in my mind ...
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:36 AM   #93
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without this thread i and other webmasters will be sending you traffic and sales and they will not know their account is banned ... enjoy your practices! and fuck off again!
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:37 AM   #94
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I don't know what scares me more, the hello kitty or the dancing fucking rudolph.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:39 AM   #95
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Teencat did you even read the entire thread you fucking idiot?
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Never seen anyone address the problem, help everyone who had the problem, and still get crucified as badly as this thread.
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Teencat did you even read the entire thread you fucking idiot?
what? i read first post, then checked my account, and its not working! i put day of work there and they closed my account without any email or any message! i dont have any reason to waste more time with them by talking with them, they dont need me or they will send me message that i have to do anything. so sorry that i am not nice to someone who is fucking with my business ...
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:44 AM   #98
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Well than that just makes you fucking lazy. (At about everything other than posting on here at least)

Good riddance.
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and, now i see that they are helping affiliates who asked ... but who knows how much 10s or 100s of affiliates sending them traffic and not visiting gfy or other boards? they will be sending sales to bangbros for who knows how long and that is ok for you? ... not for me, sorry, so bye mr sponsor
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:47 AM   #100
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what? i read first post, then checked my account, and its not working! i put day of work there and they closed my account without any email or any message! i dont have any reason to waste more time with them by talking with them, they dont need me or they will send me message that i have to do anything. so sorry that i am not nice to someone who is fucking with my business ...
Yup, you're not only stupid but lazy too. You get what you deserve if you can't even be bothered to read a few pages. Dumb ass.
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