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Robbie · 04-25-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good point, i have found that buffering occurs much more when you have more programs running on your computer no matter what the download speed is. Can any techies confirm this? I have tested this with like 5 different computers each running x amount of processes all on the same download speed and sure enough, computers that were running less processes didnt buffer as much.

Yes, that is exactly right. And that is why you really can't just stream video at a real high bit rate.

All the load is on the users cpu. So if I encode a streaming vid at 5 mbs and you have a 10 mbs connection, BUT you have an average computer with a normal cpu and the usual antivirus and other background tasks running...you are going to buffer like CRAZY.

The only way to really stream perfectly is the way ABC television does on their website. You can watch episodes of LOST on their that look just as good as on your t.v. and doesn't buffer or stutter at all. But, you have to download and install an executable file. And neither myself or anybody with any brains is ever gonna do that from a porn site! lol God only knows what kind of shit some of you guys would stick in that .exe file. Might as well just hand you all my money and credit cards.

So yeah...it's the users CPU power that really determines what happens when you watch a stream. Me? I have a Dell T7400 with 16 gigs of RAM and dual quadcore 3.2gig cpu's.
So I can watch any stream and never have a problem. But not many surfers are using a ten grand computer.

And oh yeah...300 money makers.

xxxjay · 04-25-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

But you don't differentiate when making your bitch threads.

You're pissed that people give out full length vids also, even though that's 100% legal and ethical and whatever-else-ical.

So what is it that you're pissed at tubes for? Using your content without permission which you feel devalues the product you're selling?
OR

Giving away lots of full length vids and therefore, in your mind, taking away the surfer's reason to buy?

You lump these all together when you bitch about tubes, so trying to talk to you (and others who share your views) is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

You have to be the biggest idiot of GFY. Everything you said above it wrong or isn't even my opinion.

I hope you get AIDS.

Choker · 04-25-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

computer 101
the applications cycle getting processor time, they only do things when they have the processor (brains). So the more applications you have the less frequently the browser downloading get the processor. You can change the frequency by changing the priority of the application that is running, but most every day users will not know how to do that.

I thought so. I never took any computer classes, lol and i consider myself a normal everyday user. I don't even call myself a webmaster really.

Snake Doctor · 04-25-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You have to be the biggest idiot of GFY. Everything you said above it wrong or isn't even my opinion.

I hope you get AIDS.

Gee, what a genius reply.

I guess when confronted with logic that you can't handle you just revert back to prison gangsta insult slinging.

Unlike you, I've never taken it in the ass in prison, so between the two of us, the AIDS thing is much more likely to be you.

Now that the personal insult thing is evened out, we can get back to the topic at hand, or you can just continue calling people who don't agree with you idiots.

I'm sure that's somewhere in the handbook of the National Parliamentary Debate Association. :rollseyes

BV · 04-25-2009, 09:26 PM

What sites do you run Snake Doctor?

BV · 04-25-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I don't even call myself a webmaster really.

Quoted for truth.

Choker · 04-26-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

Quoted for truth.

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

gideongallery · 04-26-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yes, that is exactly right. And that is why you really can't just stream video at a real high bit rate.

All the load is on the users cpu. So if I encode a streaming vid at 5 mbs and you have a 10 mbs connection, BUT you have an average computer with a normal cpu and the usual antivirus and other background tasks running...you are going to buffer like CRAZY.

The only way to really stream perfectly is the way ABC television does on their website. You can watch episodes of LOST on their that look just as good as on your t.v. and doesn't buffer or stutter at all. But, you have to download and install an executable file. And neither myself or anybody with any brains is ever gonna do that from a porn site! lol God only knows what kind of shit some of you guys would stick in that .exe file. Might as well just hand you all my money and credit cards.

So yeah...it's the users CPU power that really determines what happens when you watch a stream. Me? I have a Dell T7400 with 16 gigs of RAM and dual quadcore 3.2gig cpu's.
So I can watch any stream and never have a problem. But not many surfers are using a ten grand computer.

And oh yeah...300 money makers.

another reason why streaming only site suck

BV · 04-26-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't spend 5 hours a day on GFY.

Look at my post count.

And I'm glad you finally admit that you are destroying my business model along with 1000's of others.

What do you expect me to do, join in? Say Thank You?

CrkMStanz · 04-26-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

Choker · 04-26-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't spend 5 hours a day on GFY.

Look at my post count.

And I'm glad you finally admit that you are destroying my business model along with 1000's of others.

What do you expect me to do, join in? Say Thank You?

I'm destroying your business model? Your destroying your own business model by doing what you have always been doing and not adopting to the changing environment. The only person you have to blame for your impending poverty is yourself.

Choker · 04-26-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

So i should not adopt and spend 5 hours a day bitching on GFY about how everyone is ruining my business, while I watch my bank account dry up? I dont think so.

Roald · 04-26-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

...... Of course i make posts that better my own interests who the fuck doesnt? ........

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Originally Posted by Choker

....Since i made this post i have been approached by over 10 big sponsors telling me all the same thing, yes we have found the exact same results but were afraid to tell anyone for fear of getting slammed like you are but here is a password download all our videos and get them online as fast as you can......

So it is save to call that last quote bullshit? LOL

BV · 04-26-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

So it is save to call that last quote bullshit? LOL

bullshit or 10 programs so desperate they'll do anything

Choker · 04-26-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

bullshit or 10 programs so desperate they'll do anything

Not at all, 10 programs that are watching this thread and laughing at people like you. Dude why don't you just give it up? Are things really that bad for you right now? It's a good thing I didn't go in on that office with you, every month that would have went by I would have had to pay more of your share since your doing so bad now.

BV · 04-26-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Not at all, 10 programs that are watching this thread and laughing at people like you. Dude why don't you just give it up? Are things really that bad for you right now? It's a good thing I didn't go in on that office with you, every month that would have went by I would have had to pay more of your share since your doing so bad now.

Dude, I hate to burst your bubble again but do you actually think I ever considered sharing an office with you? lol

I don't need to save money like that.

But maybe you do. All that was your idea!

You approached me.
(at the same time you were trying to get me "to adapt" and get long clips from me)

Also, why do you give a fuck what I say anyways?

If your plan is so great, I wont have any affect on it.

Or are you finally realizing that your plan is killing the hand that feeds you and any negative comments hurts it?

xxxjay · 04-26-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Gee, what a genius reply.

I guess when confronted with logic that you can't handle you just revert back to prison gangsta insult slinging.

Unlike you, I've never taken it in the ass in prison, so between the two of us, the AIDS thing is much more likely to be you.

Now that the personal insult thing is evened out, we can get back to the topic at hand, or you can just continue calling people who don't agree with you idiots.

I'm sure that's somewhere in the handbook of the National Parliamentary Debate Association. :rollseyes

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

crockett · 04-26-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

Of course he knows he's destroying this biz. Traffic brokers already destroyed the TGP and MGP traffic pool now they might as well get busy fucking everyone else.

BFT3K · 04-26-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTENT (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

This thread is so nice! It just keeps on truckin' - Awesome!

At least we now know we're all on the same page regarding tube sites!

commonsense · 04-27-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Jack Sparrow · 04-27-2009, 04:42 AM

Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube?
Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

jollyperv · 04-27-2009, 04:46 AM

You know, something I thought about as I read this thread...imagine how many sponsors have turned the shave up even more on their affiliates in this past year or so...they can get away with that shit even easier now and just blame the lower sales on the tubes

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 04-27-2009, 05:33 AM

this thread rocks

xxxjay · 04-27-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube?
Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

I own 2 of them. The are the evelution of a TGP and just part of business. I just don't jack other people's content.

Jack Sparrow · 04-27-2009, 09:37 AM

Me neither, thats why i have sponsoraccounts. Sponsors can upload the videos they want to promote.

Lets talk on the messengers sometime, if you have some sparetime

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

waaah waaaah waaaah

Nobody once in this thread has said that piracy is ok or that using content without a license is ok.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, but you still come in here and whine like a fucking baby about tube sites.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, like "is it just piracy that bothers you or do you think full length licensed movies are the problem also" and you go all teenage girl with a bad hair day on me and tell me you hope I get AIDS.

Yeah, you're a businessman. :rollseyes

You're a gangsta punk who got lucky being in the right place at the right time by stumbling into the porn business, and I'm going to laugh my mother fucking ass off when your punk ass goes broke because you can't keep up with the evolution of the business.

At least you learned how to suck cock in prison, so you'll always be able to make a living somehow.

Welcome to my ignore list you fucking crybaby.

Choker · 04-27-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I own 2 of them. The are the evelution of a TGP and just part of business. I just don't jack other people's content.

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Actually you can't say anything positive about tubes or even refer to them as a viable business model without the hater brigade led by xxxjay coming out to burn you in effigy.

That's what's so frustrating about these discussions. It's like they have piracy tourettes because that's all they can talk about even if you start the thread with a full page ad declaring that you in no way, shape, or form condone content theft.

xxxjay · 04-27-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Nobody once in this thread has said that piracy is ok or that using content without a license is ok.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, but you still come in here and whine like a fucking baby about tube sites.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, like "is it just piracy that bothers you or do you think full length licensed movies are the problem also" and you go all teenage girl with a bad hair day on me and tell me you hope I get AIDS.

Yeah, you're a businessman. :rollseyes

You're a gangsta punk who got lucky being in the right place at the right time by stumbling into the porn business, and I'm going to laugh my mother fucking ass off when your punk ass goes broke because you can't keep up with the evolution of the business.

At least you learned how to suck cock in prison, so you'll always be able to make a living somehow.

Welcome to my ignore list you fucking crybaby.

Hate one brotha, hate on.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2009, 02:07 PM

xxxjay
This message is hidden because xxxjay is on your ignore list.

xxxjay · 04-27-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

You help monetize illegal tube traffic, therefore you are aiding people who do steal content. If you had a site with huge volume and illegal content, would you take them out of your network?

Choker · 04-27-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You help monetize illegal tube traffic, therefore you are aiding people who do steal content. If you had a site with huge volume and illegal content, would you take them out of your network?

Why dont u ask the same question of every big sponsor that buys spots on those same "illegal sites". DMCA every hear of it?

xxxjay · 04-27-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Why dont u ask the same question of every big sponsor that buys spots on those same "illegal sites". DMCA every hear of it?

A poorly written DMCA law is no excuse for piracy.

Pleasurepays · 04-27-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

A poorly written DMCA law is no excuse for piracy.

how much money do you lose everyday with your tube sites?

TheDoc · 04-27-2009, 03:51 PM

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?

I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it!

So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years.

Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying..

BFT3K · 04-27-2009, 04:10 PM

Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube? What does "tube" refer to?

We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays.

If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now?

At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400?

Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?
.

Jay has a pair of panties that immediately bunch up whenever he sees or hears the word tube.
They were custom made.

Since Choker either buys traffic from or sells traffic to sites that may or may not have unlicensed content, he's apparently part of the problem.

I guess people expect him to view every video on every site he brokers for or sells to and cross reference those videos with licensing agreements before he sells the traffic for .007 per click.

I was told last year that I was supporting illegal tubes because I had a server with Choopa, and they host Red Tube.

It's gotten pretty ridiculous. Half of GFY has tube tourettes, and they just go the fuck off when they see or hear the word tube.

I hear there was one incident where a GFY'er was having a heart attack, and he beat the shit out of the ER doctor when the doctor told him they were going to put a tube down his throat to help him breathe.

It's not as if GFY was ever really big on rational discussions, but it's never been this bad.

Choker · 04-27-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?

I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it!

So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years.

Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying..

I do not have any illegal tubes, all content I use is either licensed or sponsor provided. The hater's and losers on GFY just love to attack me because I have programs that help tube sites make money. And what's REALLY REALLY funny is how whenever I make a post about anything I get attacked for making posts just to spam my shit. If I make a post saying I got tube traffic for sell the haters come out with the "Oh you can't sell your shit traffic so you have to post on GFY" Doesn't really matter all the haters are nothing in this business and are of no consequence to anyone except themselves.

BFT3K · 04-27-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Nobody once in this thread has said that pirates on the high seas require any special hats or undergarments. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, we are discussing the pros and cons of Chinese take-out, regardless of your attire.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, and suddenly I don't have bottled water?! What the fuck dude? I am not the Pope. I am not your sister-in-law's best friend. Get a life!

Yeah, you're a gangsta businessman punk with the rolling eyes.

What about Freshen Up Gum man, huh? Remember that stuff? It was squishy! Yeah, that's right!

Snake Doctor,

I keep re-reading your message, and I can't help but think it may have been altered in some way. Why are tubes called tubes?

BFT3K · 04-27-2009, 05:13 PM

Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube.com? If so, why did they refer to the tube term to begin with?

We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays.

If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now?

At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400?

Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version.

CaptainHowdy · 04-27-2009, 05:28 PM

So much hate in this thread... I feel like home.

Brad Mitchell · 04-27-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Definitely the best use of font size changes to holler at someone in a while

Brad

duk75 · 04-15-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

DO you still believe this?

bean-aid · 04-15-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by duk75

DO you still believe this?

Does he still sell traffic? That was his business in 2010, 2011, maybe 2012.

Weird...

Supz · 04-15-2013, 10:56 PM

and oldie but a goodie.

notinmybackyard · 04-16-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

Show your tax returns, bank statements and ownership paper of the most expensive car you own. Otherwise I say this is a scam.

Production of films is dead and the majority of horny men surfers have been swallowed up by Facebook. Therefore tube sites are now starting to feel the shortage of content and uploaders. Many advertisers are also seeing that the tube site traffic tends to convert to nothing.

The only thing you wrote that I agree with is that surfers are stupid. In fact 99% of the Internet is stupid.

ps. I am not going to read 7 pages of bla bla bla bla

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	xxxjay This message is hidden because xxxjay is on your ignore list. __________________ sig too big

04-27-2009, 03:51 PM	#335
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I'm soooo confused by this post.. Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about? I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it! So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years. Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying.. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

04-27-2009, 04:10 PM	#336
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube? What does "tube" refer to? We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays. If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now? At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400? Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version. Last edited by BFT3K; 04-27-2009 at 04:12 PM..

04-27-2009, 05:28 PM	#341
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,194	So much hate in this thread... I feel like home. __________________ FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes!

04-25-2009, 09:26 PM	#305
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	What sites do you run Snake Doctor?

04-27-2009, 04:42 AM	#321
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube? Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

04-27-2009, 04:46 AM	#322
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	You know, something I thought about as I read this thread...imagine how many sponsors have turned the shave up even more on their affiliates in this past year or so...they can get away with that shit even easier now and just blame the lower sales on the tubes

04-27-2009, 05:33 AM	#323
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	this thread rocks

04-27-2009, 09:37 AM	#325
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Me neither, thats why i have sponsoraccounts. Sponsors can upload the videos they want to promote. Lets talk on the messengers sometime, if you have some sparetime

04-27-2009, 05:13 PM	#340
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube.com? If so, why did they refer to the tube term to begin with? We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays. If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now? At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400? Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version.

04-15-2013, 10:56 PM	#345
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	and oldie but a goodie.