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mikeyddddd · 05-27-2009, 02:46 PM

fiddy attentions

JD · 05-27-2009, 02:46 PM

50 bucks

Loch · 05-27-2009, 02:50 PM

Well i dont see why someone wouldn't give this a try if its purely performance based.
Then again IF they need to invest 200k+ quite a few companies would be ruled out right now.

nikad · 05-27-2009, 02:58 PM

If I was running a big company, I would be all over this, why not?

matuloo · 05-27-2009, 03:22 PM

Wanna start a new program and make it the right way? I have a buck or two if you know what I mean.

harvey · 05-27-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch

Well i dont see why someone wouldn't give this a try if its purely performance based.
Then again IF they need to invest 200k+ quite a few companies would be ruled out right now.

no, not really, several companies already requested more info and they can testify that. It involves MOSTLY doing what they already do in a different way. And if they want to go even further, then they'll need a minimum investment, not bigger than low-medium 4 figures, the more they want, the bigger they'll need to invest. But for big programs, we're talking peanuts.

The reason for big or medium-big companies are 2:
a) this needs to be an outgoing plan, not something where I work 1 month and the next month the owner is MIA, and the next he doesn't have money/will/whatever, and the next models didn't show up and the next we fight over things the program owner didn't do. Not saying this is the case for all programs (not even the bulk of them), but I'd rather play safe

and

b) since I'm willing to play on a performance based model, 200 members won't cut it for me, so it needs to be a program that already has a decent amount of sales

harvey · 05-27-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by matuloo

Wanna start a new program and make it the right way? I have a buck or two if you know what I mean.

are you talking to me? if so, pls contact me by mail, I'm open to discuss options

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2009, 03:41 PM

I am actually planning my way out of adult, if you want talk to JuggCash, you can see a thread from Nick on the first page and go from there.

I don't mean to attack, but really, as Pleasurepays already said, it's naive and offensive to assume that you could double the gross income of each big program, because that would assume that you're truly the smartest guy in online adult and all those who run the multi-million dollar programs rely only on shady billing practices etc and just don't have a clue on things like maximizing retention.

well, really that's just a ridicolous statement. Pleaserupays said it already but then he apologized because he didn't see that you're looking for perfomance-based earnings..... but his other points were still valid.

And even if your brain is better than Einstein, you need to realize the BS we are seeing on this board EVERY single day.

When you said this:

Quote:

So basically I can say I was the first in several of the ideas you consider common right now.

you just sounded like AlienQ

I could go on and on, but if you're so smart as you claim, you should know that such statements as the one from your thread title CAN't be taken seriously.

We've had guys who made threads about "the new way to revolutionize adult", we've had MetaformX saying he wants to guarantee everyone 1:200 conversions, we've seen guys who say they know how to make Youtube profitable better than all the google exec's etc... not to mention the scammers we see revelead here every month (not hinting that you're a scammer absolutely) AND not to mention the standard sales pitch from 95% of program owners and sales reps: "We're confident our program will make you more money than any other"

also, if your biggest asset is basically paying extreme attention to details and squeezing the max of every surfer/member, then couldn't the same be applied to the affiliate scene, and after a while you could start your own program again?

MikeSmoke · 05-27-2009, 04:42 PM

1. Harvey knows what he's doing.
2. Wish I was a big program to take advantage of this

harvey · 05-27-2009, 04:46 PM

Yes, you meant to attack from the very first post, but as I said, I expected that. No big deal, no harm at all. Of course you backed up when I dared you, even whhen putting my money on the plate. But I expected that as well, to be honest.

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I don't mean to attack, but really, as Pleasurepays already said, it's naive and offensive to assume that you could double the gross income of each big program, because that would assume that you're truly the smartest guy in online adult and all those who run the multi-million dollar programs rely only on shady billing practices etc and just don't have a clue on things like maximizing retention.

well, really that's just a ridicolous statement.

well, I never mentioned shady anything, and for the rest of the statement... well, guess they'll need to find out, after all, what do they have to lose?. Anyway, I'll make a BOLD statement: most programs don't know how or don't want to maximize retentions Happy now? So you don't need to make up things, there you have, I said it.

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

When you said this:

you just sounded like AlienQ

There's a big difference: I can back up everything I said. I mean EVERYTHING.

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I could go on and on, but if you're so smart as you claim, you should know that such statements as the one from your thread title CAN't be taken seriously.

We've had guys who made threads about "the new way to revolutionize adult", we've had MetaformX saying he wants to guarantee everyone 1:200 conversions, we've seen guys who say they know how to make Youtube profitable better than all the google exec's etc... not to mention the scammers we see revelead here every month (not hinting that you're a scammer absolutely) AND not to mention the standard sales pitch from 95% of program owners and sales reps: "We're confident our program will make you more money than any other"

Well, as I'm talking about MARKETING, what would you expect? A title that doesn't call any attention or a title that calls attention PLUS I can back up? Geez, that's a hard one, let me think about it..................... OK, I'll go with the "Attention Calling" title for now. For the rest of what you say... again, I can back up what I say and can't really take responsability for what YOU or anyone else says

btw, as for conversions (which is not the main part of the plan but it's included) I already posted evidence. I'm still waiting for YOU or anyone else to beat that. Geez, let's leave it at getting close to that. And as I said, that's not even the main part of this plan (but it won't harm at all, of course)

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

also, if your biggest asset is basically paying extreme attention to details and squeezing the max of every surfer/member, then couldn't the same be applied to the affiliate scene, and after a while you could start your own program again?

well, that if should be posted like this, let me help you:

IF

it's the keyword here, since you don't have a clue about what I proposed to those who contacted me. You're totally off base on everything. And I mean EVERYTHING.

And I always had you as a smart person, so I can't understand why is it so difficult to grasp it for you:

I only talk about what I know. I only promise what I know I can do

Do you understand it now? That being said, I'm not talking about affiliates because that's not my strongest point, so why losing my time when I can offer something of real value? Is it really that difficult to understand? Really?

And about opening my program again.... didn't it occur to you that I might have reasons (besides money) to not do it again?

Anyway, I know you're smart and I know you're just trolling and trying to make up arguments off the air, but it's kinda fun backing up everything and showing this is for real so thanx for the bump

PS: well, according to the mails I have sent it seems the one taking by stupid big program owners is you

harvey · 05-27-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

1. Harvey knows what he's doing.
2. Wish I was a big program to take advantage of this

hey Mike

a big part of this is learning from past experiences from people that really knows its stuff. And you're one of those for sure

MikeSmoke · 05-27-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

hey Mike

a big part of this is learning from past experiences from people that really knows its stuff. And you're one of those for sure

Thanks...that's nice of you to say

Deej · 05-27-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

hey Mike

a big part of this is learning from past experiences from people that really knows its stuff. And you're one of those for sure

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Thanks...that's nice of you to say

Seriously... I will weep if this thread gets any more beautiful

harvey · 05-27-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Seriously... I will weep if this thread gets any more beautiful

are you jealous?

alan-l · 05-28-2009, 12:19 AM

if anything, I assume people will be very curious to promote the program that finally hires you. Smart move indeed

I know family is a concern, but if you want to relocate to Europe, we should talk

Deej · 05-28-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

are you jealous?

is that a problem?

digifan · 05-28-2009, 05:29 AM

Back to the top.

harvey · 05-28-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alan-l

if anything, I assume people will be very curious to promote the program that finally hires you. Smart move indeed

I know family is a concern, but if you want to relocate to Europe, we should talk

nice to know

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Originally Posted by Deej

is that a problem?

no problem at all, let's cuddle!

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Originally Posted by digifan

Back to the top.

thanx Digi

devine · 05-28-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

Yes, you meant to attack from the very first post, but as I said, I expected that. No big deal, no harm at all. Of course you backed up when I dared you, even whhen putting my money on the plate. But I expected that as well, to be honest.

well, I never mentioned shady anything, and for the rest of the statement... well, guess they'll need to find out, after all, what do they have to lose?. Anyway, I'll make a BOLD statement: most programs don't know how or don't want to maximize retentions Happy now? So you don't need to make up things, there you have, I said it.

There's a big difference: I can back up everything I said. I mean EVERYTHING.

Well, as I'm talking about MARKETING, what would you expect? A title that doesn't call any attention or a title that calls attention PLUS I can back up? Geez, that's a hard one, let me think about it..................... OK, I'll go with the "Attention Calling" title for now. For the rest of what you say... again, I can back up what I say and can't really take responsability for what YOU or anyone else says

btw, as for conversions (which is not the main part of the plan but it's included) I already posted evidence. I'm still waiting for YOU or anyone else to beat that. Geez, let's leave it at getting close to that. And as I said, that's not even the main part of this plan (but it won't harm at all, of course)

well, that if should be posted like this, let me help you:

IF

it's the keyword here, since you don't have a clue about what I proposed to those who contacted me. You're totally off base on everything. And I mean EVERYTHING.

And I always had you as a smart person, so I can't understand why is it so difficult to grasp it for you:

I only talk about what I know. I only promise what I know I can do

Do you understand it now? That being said, I'm not talking about affiliates because that's not my strongest point, so why losing my time when I can offer something of real value? Is it really that difficult to understand? Really?

And about opening my program again.... didn't it occur to you that I might have reasons (besides money) to not do it again?

Anyway, I know you're smart and I know you're just trolling and trying to make up arguments off the air, but it's kinda fun backing up everything and showing this is for real so thanx for the bump

PS: well, according to the mails I have sent it seems the one taking by stupid big program owners is you

Some serious ownage there

harvey · 05-28-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by devine

Some serious ownage there

I don't care about that, not looking to "own" anyone. I know he was trolling out of boredom or whatever, and it finally helped more than what he attacked

harvey · 05-29-2009, 12:31 PM

OK I got a mail telling me my ICQ isn't working (SURPRISE!) so please, if anyone sees that I didn't answer on ICQ, please send me a mail to sales {+} mozlo {+} com . As far as I know I answered all ICQ that I got and sent all the requested info.

On a side note, those that requested the NDA please hang with me until tomorrow, I'm seeing my lawyer in a couple hours to make sure everything is correct

Let's keep this rolling!

tonyparra · 05-29-2009, 09:01 PM

Why not help out small guys? It may not pay as well but it would be extra cash. I would like some help man.

digifan · 05-31-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Why not help out small guys? It may not pay as well but it would be extra cash. I would like some help man.

Because people tend to believe real big companies, easy as 1-2-3. And he can start life afresh and work again with them backing him and offer proof and recover fully at the same time. Your word is not enough... sorry but this is the truth, nor mine, otherwise he could call a zillion small guys and girls he has helped before. It is a big challenge.

borked · 05-31-2009, 12:45 PM

bump for an interesting thread

InternetIsForPorn · 05-31-2009, 01:27 PM

This thread is priceless.

harvey · 05-31-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Why not help out small guys? It may not pay as well but it would be extra cash. I would like some help man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan

Because people tend to believe real big companies, easy as 1-2-3. And he can start life afresh and work again with them backing him and offer proof and recover fully at the same time. Your word is not enough... sorry but this is the truth, nor mine, otherwise he could call a zillion small guys and girls he has helped before. It is a big challenge.

Not sure if it is because of that. Basically, as I said before, I want to concentrate with only 1 company and not waste time and effort with many companies. Plus, if you share these tools with everybody... then the advantage between a single company having them against those ot having them is lost. As Digifan said, I think I'm a quite helpful person and many people here can testify that, but this is just business, plain and pure business.

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Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn

This thread is priceless.

Priceless? If you want I can charge you!

harvey · 06-01-2009, 02:07 PM

keep it comin'

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