Did all Smart Thumbs TGPs just get dropped from Google? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

uno · 06-19-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Is it just a coincidence that all these ST sites are dropping in ranks?

Or could there be something else in common between all these dropped sites that we aren't thinking of?

It's obviously an illuminati/bilderberg/lizard people conspiracy.

Blackamooka · 06-19-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

It's obviously an illuminati/bilderberg/lizard people conspiracy.

Don't forget 9/11.

arock10 · 06-19-2009, 08:42 PM

unique linking structure ftw

Pleasurepays · 06-19-2009, 08:46 PM

no one is blaming Bush yet?

uno · 06-19-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

no one is blaming Bush yet?

Sorry, I thought that was implied without saying as his father is a well known lizard person.

Webmaster Army · 06-19-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

That is a shitty link, it tells nothing about what happened.

The -60 penalty is associated with bad inbound links, purchased links, or link farms(too many outbounds).

Huh? Multiple things in that list are things just about any TGP would not pass on. Did you even read it?

Pleasurepays · 06-19-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Sorry, I thought that was implied without saying as his father is a well known lizard person.

According to Phillip Schneider, we've worked everything out with the lizard people and all is good. (well... except for Phillip's untimely death)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=srX0lNQ6Kb0

arock10 · 06-19-2009, 08:56 PM

google wasted a bunch of video dump sites last year at the end of the summer, I guess this year ST and a few misc other sites got it

and yes, I still havent gotten my 30k a day back so suck it up

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 08:56 PM

don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 08:58 PM

anyone selling any smart thumbs licences?

Pleasurepays · 06-19-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.

he was also shot by an alien... resulting in wounds which oddly enough... looked a lot like an explosives accident resulting in burns to his chest and taking off some fingers... and coincidentally, he was a demolitions expert.

riveting stuff!

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 09:01 PM

huh? it's just some article i found on the fly but everything you said there is covered in the article as what to avoid.

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

That is a shitty link, it tells nothing about what happened.

The -60 penalty is associated with bad inbound links, purchased links, or link farms(too many outbounds).

Pleasurepays · 06-19-2009, 09:02 PM

and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used.

amazing stuff!!

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 09:02 PM

well we may have a lead on who wired up the twin towers.

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

he was also shot by an alien... resulting in wounds which oddly enough... looked a lot like an explosives accident resulting in burns to his chest and taking off some fingers... and coincidentally, he was a demolitions expert.

riveting stuff!

Shoplifter · 06-19-2009, 09:06 PM

Well this is going to ripple through the industry...

Gonna hear some big crying next week from everyone if this doesn't revert.

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 09:06 PM

can't say what happened in your case arock - but i ran a link anchor check on most of the sites over at iq that got penalized and they never varied their anchor text - always assumed that's why they were penalzied - though of course i may be wrong.

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Originally Posted by arock10

google wasted a bunch of video dump sites last year at the end of the summer, I guess this year ST and a few misc other sites got it

and yes, I still havent gotten my 30k a day back so suck it up

Jdoughs · 06-19-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Webmaster Army

Huh? Multiple things in that list are things just about any TGP would not pass on. Did you even read it?

Of course I read it. And its just another post made by some fucktard telling people the most standard of SEO advice.

There is no meat in that post.

By the way, I didn't lose any serps, I gained some, and have pulled more then a few domains out of penalty, I'm not just talking out of my ass here.

I called this one well over 24 hrs ago and knew the penalty and particulars. And I'm not posting in numerous of these threads on numerous boards to talk shit, I'm just offering experienced advice.

the Shemp · 06-19-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

It seems at 1pm EST yesterday, a LOT of TGPs running ST saw their SERPs drop big time. Pretty much anyone that had a keyword on page 1 saw it drop to page 6.

The only TGPs I see in top 10s now are running obscure scripts, or something custom.

Seriously upset here... anyone else seeing this?

that's a shame ...

geedub · 06-19-2009, 09:47 PM

whats up team smart script?

KillerK · 06-19-2009, 10:10 PM

no word from the author?

MoreMagic · 06-19-2009, 10:21 PM

Iframe can become your friend here.....................................

cosis · 06-19-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

the sad truth

but make "illegal" tubes, because google will love them more than the legal ones pretty soon when all the "legal" ones with sponsor hosted 2 minute clips will end up getting this kind of page 6 google penalty

it is a sick internet world we live in

legal tubes are a waste of time

Doctor Feelgood · 06-19-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo

I use AutoGallery SQL, my search engine traffic has increased 5x just from today...

no change here

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 11:35 PM

i just looked at a serp i had been shooting for. it used to be like tpgs a blog and a tube now there are no tgps just a tubes, linklists and blogs

would be odd is the google update that has been rolling out since the beginning of the month kills off all tgps.

GAMEFINEST · 06-19-2009, 11:43 PM

that is not good biz

Godsmack · 06-20-2009, 12:26 AM

I lost over 70k google! we have no clue why this happens like everyone else...if we know why this happens we may find some fix for it. Also i wanna say that it's a bit too easy putting the blame on ST unless we know exactly whats happening.

blazin · 06-20-2009, 01:06 AM

Yeah I had a site that was the first search result drop to the 4th page

06-20-2009, 01:22 AM

I lost some BIG SERPs, and was running ALL paid licenses of ST. Each of the sites dropped completely. Who has a solution in place that is willing to work with me over the weekend to get converted?

I may have to go from TGP to legal tube if this doesn't return to normal (which I do not prefer to do). The odd thing is that I NEVER used the auto import tool, all of my galleries were custom added, and I wasn't running archives (just a single page).

If anybody hears anything else, I'd love to hear from you.

MoreMagic · 06-20-2009, 01:29 AM

Last time i say it.......

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Iframe can become your friend here.....................................

Trax · 06-20-2009, 01:37 AM

smartthumbs just officially died
pretty fucked up

Ecchi22 · 06-20-2009, 01:48 AM

Damn

I'm not using smart thumbs, but my friend is affected.. He was #1 for one popular keyword, now I can't see his website on 1st page on google :/

This sucks a lot. Really big change in just one day

hjnet · 06-20-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Last time i say it.......

Well, tell us the details, how, why, and where to read about it

Zorgman · 06-20-2009, 03:47 AM

wow, thats got to suck. Wouldn't wish that on anyone, for the most part, SE traffic is our income, take it away and we're sucking eggs.

hribar81 · 06-20-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

who?.....

I do. This sucks big time...

idtapdat · 06-20-2009, 06:16 AM

yea this is brutal.........

master_design · 06-20-2009, 06:26 AM

wow that sucks

Si · 06-20-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hribar81

I do. This sucks big time...

seems a lot do aswell

dready · 06-20-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used.

amazing stuff!!

I've met that guy before. He's quite the storyteller.

Pleasurepays · 06-20-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dready

I've met that guy before. He's quite the storyteller.

really? that's kind of fascinating to me. i mean i think he was a lunatic and full of shit.. but at the same time, i think it would be sort of interesting and sobering to sit in a room full of people and listen to all that... looking around seeing everyone stare in total amazement.

how did you meet him? at a speaking engagement?

dready · 06-20-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

really? that's kind of fascinating to me. i mean i think he was a lunatic and full of shit.. but at the same time, i think it would be sort of interesting and sobering to sit in a room full of people and listen to all that... looking around seeing everyone stare in total amazement.

how did you meet him? at a speaking engagement?

Yeah, about 10 years ago at a convention. I chatted with him briefly after. He makes it sound pretty believable, but I agree, he's a nutbar.

TheSenator · 06-20-2009, 10:02 AM

This is fucked up!

This is my analysis....

I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

or I could be completely wrong....

Pleasurepays · 06-20-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

This is fucked up!

This is my analysis....

I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

or I could be completely wrong....

yes! google is super concerned with relevant porn results. nothing they hate more than having a surfer typein "asian ladyboys sucking assholes" and getting mixed results back.

they don't manually manipulate results. they just don't. they don't look at 1.5 trillion stored pages and try to figure out how to improve the results for "donkey fucked teens"

that's not how search engines work... and its self defeating if you have to manually create good results vs find a tweak to algorithmically produce the best results. further, looking in that direction doesn't give you a solution (although it would be quite expected for everyone to jump on the "there's nothing i can do and its not my fault" bandwagon which is popular in porn)

since i have free ST sites with ZERO outbound links and NOTHING going on that also ended up getting penalized, i would suggest again that it has to with the smart thumbs link and how those links link to other sites. its not about whether a site has it or not (paid or free version).. its about those sites, and who's linking to who and the general link matrix itself.

there is ZERO contextual relevance between "smart thumbs" and "naked midgets" and the these sites are typically shitty, low quality sites that look EXACTLY like an auto generated link farm from a search engines eyes without a decent number of quality back links. Just pages with zero info with 100's of outbound links per page. linking to what can be considered a spam site can hurt you just as much as having your own network of spam sites interlinked can hurt you. having a "clean site" that gets penalized tells you that you should also be looking at your link trades and who you are trading hard links with. you'll find that your "clean site" suddenly just got a little dirtier.

why is this happening for sure? who knows. i personally dont care enough to figure it out because the TGP model in its traditional form is 100% doomed to fail no matter what. we used ST to put domains live that we might develop in 3-4 months.

all people have to do is start posting domains, start making lists of the commonalities and start trouble shooting... or do that with your own networks. but of course, this biz is too backwards for that to happen

it could be that there are some common hardlink trades that are causing this... could be a lot of things. it simply requires a methodical approach to building a list of common factors and then determining which can/cannot be ruled out... and then looking at the remaining factors and testing.

you already have a strong lead... it seems to be affecting ST sites. so you've already narrowed it down from around 1.5 million domains to 1000's.

1200mics · 06-20-2009, 10:43 AM

Wow looks like i lost more then 50% of my traffic

I guess the only thing we could do is ask Google in webmasters central and try to make ST script more seo friendly ?

We will need much luck and health to overcome this .. so good luck all Smart thumbers :thumbs up:

sortie · 06-20-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

This is fucked up!

This is my analysis....

I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

or I could be completely wrong....

You could be but you ain't!

This non-sense about the back link to smart thumbs causing a problem is bullshit,
especially considering that smart thumbs still comes up #1 on the first page.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...=leBsIIJAI N0

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...=leBsIIJA IN0

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tgp+s...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

Holy shit! Smart thumbs is way down to 4th on the 1st page for "tgp script"

So if google thinks the back link is spam then why penalize the site/message board
that got spammed and not the domain being spammed?

The other option would be that smart thumbs is using an SEO method that google
has decided to penalize. Add in some spammy sites and that's enough.

HorseShit · 06-20-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1200mics

Wow looks like i lost more then 50% of my traffic

I guess the only thing we could do is ask Google in webmasters central and try to make ST script more seo friendly ?

We will need much luck and health to overcome this .. so good luck all Smart thumbers :thumbs up:

Pleasurepays · 06-20-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

You could be but you ain't!

This non-sense about the back link to smart thumbs causing a problem is bullshit,
especially considering that smart thumbs still comes up #1 on the first page.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...=leBsIIJAI N0

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...=leBsIIJA IN0

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tgp+s...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

Holy shit! Smart thumbs is way down to 4th on the 1st page for "tgp script"

So if google thinks the back link is spam then why penalize the site/message board
that got spammed and not the domain being spammed?

The other option would be that smart thumbs is using an SEO method that google
has decided to penalize. Add in some spammy sites and that's enough.

a site doesn't get penalized because of links pointing to it.

Ecchi22 · 06-20-2009, 11:10 AM

Seems that http://petitenympha.com got penalty too..

cykoe6 · 06-20-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

I lost over 70k google! we have no clue why this happens like everyone else...if we know why this happens we may find some fix for it. Also i wanna say that it's a bit too easy putting the blame on ST unless we know exactly whats happening.

I agree. I have ST sites that were not penalized.

sortie · 06-20-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

a site doesn't get penalized because of links pointing to it.

Exactly, so why punish the site pointing to it?

By your scenario we should all be penalized for pointing to the same sponsors.

Slick · 06-20-2009, 12:03 PM

Thank God I don't use Smart Thumbs ;)

I do feel sorry for the rest of you though because I do trade with a lot of you guys. Hopefully shit can get straightened out with it.

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	no one is blaming Bush yet?

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used. amazing stuff!!

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Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,692	Well this is going to ripple through the industry... Gonna hear some big crying next week from everyone if this doesn't revert.

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KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	no word from the author?

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MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Iframe can become your friend here.....................................

06-19-2009, 11:35 PM	#124
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i just looked at a serp i had been shooting for. it used to be like tpgs a blog and a tube now there are no tgps just a tubes, linklists and blogs would be odd is the google update that has been rolling out since the beginning of the month kills off all tgps.

06-20-2009, 01:06 AM	#127
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	Yeah I had a site that was the first search result drop to the 4th page __________________ I don't endorse a god damn thing......

06-20-2009, 01:22 AM	#128
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I lost some BIG SERPs, and was running ALL paid licenses of ST. Each of the sites dropped completely. Who has a solution in place that is willing to work with me over the weekend to get converted? I may have to go from TGP to legal tube if this doesn't return to normal (which I do not prefer to do). The odd thing is that I NEVER used the auto import tool, all of my galleries were custom added, and I wasn't running archives (just a single page). If anybody hears anything else, I'd love to hear from you.

06-20-2009, 01:37 AM	#130
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	smartthumbs just officially died pretty fucked up

06-20-2009, 01:48 AM	#131
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	Damn I'm not using smart thumbs, but my friend is affected.. He was #1 for one popular keyword, now I can't see his website on 1st page on google :/ This sucks a lot. Really big change in just one day __________________

06-20-2009, 03:47 AM	#133
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	wow, thats got to suck. Wouldn't wish that on anyone, for the most part, SE traffic is our income, take it away and we're sucking eggs. __________________ ---

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idtapdat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: miami Posts: 1,161	yea this is brutal......... __________________ icq - 473556037

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06-20-2009, 10:02 AM	#141
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	This is fucked up! This is my analysis.... I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits. Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash. or I could be completely wrong.... __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

06-20-2009, 10:43 AM	#143
1200mics Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ICQ : 297-476-738 Posts: 5,131	Wow looks like i lost more then 50% of my traffic I guess the only thing we could do is ask Google in webmasters central and try to make ST script more seo friendly ? We will need much luck and health to overcome this .. so good luck all Smart thumbers :thumbs up: __________________

06-20-2009, 11:10 AM	#147
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	Seems that http://petitenympha.com got penalty too.. __________________

06-20-2009, 12:03 PM	#150
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Thank God I don't use Smart Thumbs ;) I do feel sorry for the rest of you though because I do trade with a lot of you guys. Hopefully shit can get straightened out with it.