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Old 06-22-2009, 11:43 AM   #51
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Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.
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Yep, I was thinking of exactly along the lines of WordPress's options.. a few standard choices and custom if you'd like.
Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good.
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Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good.
LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for!

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested
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Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.
Thanks, its finally almost here.
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LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for!

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested
Haha, thanks, but I'll pass... As cool as it would be to work with you guys, as I've always had a thing for how awesome NATS is, I don't really work well with others, I'm more of a lone soldier and I'm pushing to get my own biz going, maybe sometime down the road I'll become your competition. ;)

Keep up the good work.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:09 PM   #56
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:19 PM   #57
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John lmk if I can take a peek at the demo

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Old 06-22-2009, 04:05 PM   #59
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:19 PM   #61
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Like the script, don't like the pricing.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #62
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Congrats on the new software and good luck!
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:37 PM   #63
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John,

You know I'm interested and this falls right into a project I'm working on. Please put me in your list of paying beta testers.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:55 PM   #64
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Like the script, don't like the pricing.
Because it has a monthly cost or because its too high? (or something else?)
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:28 PM   #65
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Any estimate as to when it can be purchased?
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #66
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Would also be nice to have it be able to rip galleries and unite the videos into a seamless experience... I believe nubiles tube script does this...

So if a gallery has 4 vids in it the nubiles script will show you one pic with the mouse over animation... Then when you go to the videos page it shows all four clips... But if you click #1 it will skip to #2 immediately after playing... and so on... Turns 4 - 0:1:20 videos into 5 minutes 20 seconds.. Something the surfer might actually click on...

Once they see 2 minutes or 1:20 they quickly find another tube site with 20 minutes...
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I looked at the demo (I know it's basic demo).

Just a question or two (btw this movie is not loading for me) http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1657

Can I have an image on the movie instead of the blank pre-roll....

Can I put a link in the description of the movie? (to sponsor off course)

Can I put my own player in or am I stuck with the default one or do you have others available?

Can I change the size of the thumbs on the main page and the layout should I not want the current setup on the demo?

I like to tinker with things such as the player page and so forth can I make changes myself or is the player page zen encoded?

The register page is pretty basic can I add or do you plan on adding things to it such as capthcha? it would be nice to be able to add your own fields.

also the layout is messed up (top header) In IE7.....

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Old 06-22-2009, 05:48 PM   #68
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Like the script, don't like the pricing.
$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.
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$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.
Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.
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Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.
I tend to agree, the $15 per-month should be an extra option for those that want/require a bit more support then usual.
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The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).
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btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure
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The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).
What do you feel it is missing?
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$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.
I thought mechbunny was $1500 for a full server license?
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btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure
As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

/me end support for John
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How many DB calls per page construct? If it's anywhere near Carma..
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Welcome to the tube market John. The more choices webmasters have the better.
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As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

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maybe. depending on how the code looks and how open it is. However, even then, what I mean is that having that pre-done as opposed to having to rewrite the whole code is a real time saver.

PS: John knows I'm one of his biggest supporters, hence the suggestions
PS2: As a designer, I only need to know how to design, not how to code. In my case, I've my above average share of coding knowledge (at least for a designer) and I've a coder of my own, but 99% of designers don't know how to code and they aren't supposed to either. So, in this business, most clients will want everything: the design and the code, and they'll need 2 different people to do that. So, any script having it all without tables (or at least with ID'ed tables) will save the client time and money, hence the script will be bought by more people
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Does admin area include fields for each upload that we can add banner, link, make vid clickable, etc..

What's the installation charge.. Assuming it may need other things to work, can you install those as well?
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I thought mechbunny was $1500 for a full server license?
It's not a server license, it's unlimited domain and open sources. You can use it on as many servers as you like as long as you don't resell it
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Not much for innovation-

looks archaic-

Stick to affiliate content management.
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I hate recurring payments for stuff like this. Is there any non-recurring buyout price?
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A recurring charge to use a PHP script? Pretty funny. That might fly with NATS but this pricing scheme won't work for a tube script.
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Here's my take on it.

Some people might not have the cash flow to startup a tube network with 300$+ licence fees for other scripts.

At 15$ a month, you're pretty much scratching the tube script from your startup fees and can use the money you save to invest into either traffic, promo or whatever. If after a couple of months you're tube isn't generating 15$/month to pay for the script, I think you should look at a new line of work.

Thats my 2 cents. 15$/month is cheap
The cheaper a product is the more it HAS to sell. The more who buy, the more feeding from the same trough and the less profit for all.

A good or bad thing for the business?
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Have you looked at your own site? Archaic? Damn.
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Monthly fee's sucks IMO. Charge whatever the script is worth instead.

Mechbunny's $1500 for unlimited usage is clearly a great alternative if you plan for more than just one tube. Besides you can pay to have it personal customized which is a huge plus.

JMB Soft TubeX - $120 ($80 while still in beta) also a good alternative to a monthly fee if you are new and low on money.

A little comparison.

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0
(unlimited domains/servers)


3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $245 ($320 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Tube Studio
First year: $635
Per year: $540


5 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $600 ($400 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $365 ($490 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Tube Studio
First year: $995
Per year: $900


10 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $1200 ($800 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $665 ($915 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $1895
Per year: $1800


40 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $4800 ($3200 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $2465 ($3465 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $7295
Per year: $7200


Haven't tried any of the scripts so can't compare features, but unless Tube Studio is way superior to the other scripts I can't see any reason to pay that amount for a lease.

Rumors say Smart Tube Pro is the most advanced tube script on market, so if you are serious about starting in the tube business and focus on a single tube $500 isn't a bad alternative compared to same cost of a 2 years of Tube Studio lease.
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The gentleman in my avatar suggests that you wait until certain domains gain popularity and increase their license fee by how much you estimate they are making, find some excuse like their higher traffic requires addons that cost extra, if they don't pay shut their license down but if they are making money they will pay.
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A little comparison.

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0
(unlimited domains/servers)


3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $125 ($150 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Tube Studio
First year: $635
Per year: $540


5 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $600 ($400 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $300 ($425 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Tube Studio
First year: $995
Per year: $900


10 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $1200 ($800 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $600 ($850 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $1895
Per year: $1800


40 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $4800 ($3200 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $2400 (normally for this volume, no extra charge for brand free version)
Per year:$0


Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $7295
Per year: $7200
This prices for TEVS are wrong. Prices changed the other day.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:33 AM   #92
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This prices for TEVS are wrong. Prices changed the other day.

3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $125 ($150 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

So 3 copies of TEVS = $125?
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Sorry, I thought that said 1 copy. My mistake.

First copy is $125, extra licenses are $60 each. But if over 10 we can do a better deal.

So 3 copies = $180
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congrats on the new script TMM, i'm sure it is good.. it's gonna be interesting to see who will come out on top, our new script is rolling out as well.. exciting times ahead..
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Again, with software it comes down to support. Enjoy the support someone selling you a $40 software will give you. Or how much someone will care about you in 2 years after selling you a one time license you can do whatever you wish with.

Monthly fees for softare are like all things in this business, some love it, some hate it.
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Its also cute how you have some people complaining we can't make enough money from it and it will have a negative effect on us, and you have others complaining we're charging too much compared to similar products. At the very least, this place is always entertaining.
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Again, with software it comes down to support.
Can I have some of that support and get these questions answered from previous page if possible please mate, thanks.

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I looked at the demo (I know it's basic demo).

Just a question or two (btw this movie is not loading for me) http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1657

Can I have an image on the movie instead of the blank pre-roll....

Can I put a link in the description of the movie? (to sponsor off course)

Can I put my own player in or am I stuck with the default one or do you have others available?

Can I change the size of the thumbs on the main page and the layout should I not want the current setup on the demo?

I like to tinker with things such as the player page and so forth can I make changes myself or is the player page zen encoded?

The register page is pretty basic can I add or do you plan on adding things to it such as capthcha? it would be nice to be able to add your own fields.

also the layout is messed up (top header) In IE7.....

Thanks
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Can I have some of that support and get these questions answered from previous page if possible please mate, thanks.
Sorry, missed it as the thread went over night for me.

That movie is loading fine for me. Are you getting an error or no flash or it won't click play or?

Yes, you could do still previews without the mouse overs.

Yes, you could do full HTML descriptions if you'd like.

The one that is included is very flexible. Its not ours, its something we licensed for the software. It is highly configurable and you may find it can do what you wish. If it doesn't for some reason you could change players easily at the template level.

Yes, you can have any size thumbs you wish.

All of the visuals are in smarty based templates. You have full control over them and can tinker yourself to death.

At the moment I don't believe there is much flexibility to add new fields, but if there isn't it would be very easy to change. I may be wrong and it may be doable at this point and Dan just simply set it up very basic on the testing site.

Thanks for the heads up on IE7. That is all template based and during testing very little attention was payed to the visual aspects (as you can tell from the text fonts/size/alignments, etc.) since it is a test site. This is I'm sure part of that and I'll try to have someone take a look at it.
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pricing sucks .. anyways congrats on the upcoming launch
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pricing sucks .. anyways congrats on the upcoming launch
What do you feel it should be priced at?
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