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dave90210 · 07-08-2009, 07:12 PM

He was a compulsive child molester he got exactly what he deserved!

Darkland · 07-08-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dave90210

He was a compulsive child molester he got exactly what he deserved!

Wow... you must have got some information the rest of the world didn't. I saw no proof of it and apparently the courts didn't either. What I saw was some backwards asshats trying to cash in and using the kids to do it. If my kid was really molested I wouldn't allow myself to be payed off, I would want justice. But that didn't happen did it?

So by your reasoning assumptions are all that is need to declare someone a pedophile and I can freely claim you to be one too... Right? I mean me shouldn't have innocent until proven guilty in this country... Right?

No run to the mods and tell them I called you a pedophile... Idiot.

react · 07-08-2009, 07:49 PM

I think Jackson could have done it without Quincy but the same is not true in reverse.

Check MJ's demo of Billie Jean, apparently before Quincy even got to it, sounds super close to the final mix:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9E_1eYWx4fM

John-ACWM · 07-09-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

While I am also annoyed by all the hype. You need to put it in perspective champ.

MJ is a face man. A talented one. An entertainer.

Just as MJ did not write, all, of his own hit music. Steve Jobs did not invent the computer, or GUI. Nor did he create Pixar's graphics advantage. Nor the concept of online music. However he gets credit for all his 'revolutions'.

They are talented face men who took a song, a computer, a business and made it famous.

Paul Markham · 07-09-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

As i said above, the title is about "credit for his music" When you dont write a song, you dont play any instrument on them, and some qhite dud in England writes your lyrics, musicologists and critics have every right to speak up for those musicians and song writers who actually were this "artists" creativity. he was far from an artist, I think of pop stars more as actors. All they do is dance and sing, and when they write their own stuff, they FLOP.

Again, not bashing MJ, just setting record straight on folks claiming "MJ was a musicial genius" in the media. Thats what this threads about, not detracting from MJs acomplishments as celeb.

I have not seen a single article mention the actual song writers lol just "MJ was a god"

Welcome to the MTV Generation.

Think outside the box. Imagine Thriller sung by Lionel Ritchie or Sting. would never of worked. Quincey Jones might of written it, Michael Jackson delivered it. And that's what made it unique.

Paul Markham · 07-09-2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

Wow... you must have got some information the rest of the world didn't. I saw no proof of it and apparently the courts didn't either. What I saw was some backwards asshats trying to cash in and using the kids to do it. If my kid was really molested I wouldn't allow myself to be payed off, I would want justice. But that didn't happen did it?

So by your reasoning assumptions are all that is need to declare someone a pedophile and I can freely claim you to be one too... Right? I mean me shouldn't have innocent until proven guilty in this country... Right?

No run to the mods and tell them I called you a pedophile... Idiot.

You would put your child through the ordeal of giving evidence in a court, exposed to the world and have to face the results or walk away with $12m?

I would protect my child and take the money to get her out of the environment that reminded her of the abuse.

Whether MJ did it or not is up fr debate, like did OJ do it?

I seriously doubt the police and AG would of pursued a case against another media star unless they were very confident about it.

Mutt · 07-09-2009, 05:30 AM

Did you ever hear Michael Jackson take credit for work others had done? 95% of the public who listen to and buy music are ignorant, ignorant about EVERYTHING, not just music. So why stress out about it. 95% of those pathetic mourning fans you see hadn't thought about Michael Jackson in years.

Michael was an ENTERTAINER - arguably, the greatest entertainer ever to walk the planet. His music was far from the greatest music ever produced.

ContentSHOOTER · 07-09-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dave90210

He was a compulsive child molester he got exactly what he deserved!

Really insightful post FUCK FACE

FlexxAeon · 07-09-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by react

I think Jackson could have done it without Quincy but the same is not true in reverse.

Check MJ's demo of Billie Jean, apparently before Quincy even got to it, sounds super close to the final mix:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9E_1eYWx4fM

they are close as far as melody and obviously lyrics, but the instruments and mix are separated by leaps and bounds. the demo version sounds a lot more synthesized. quincy fattened it up a lot

but you are correct in that this argues more towards mike getting his credit as a musician and not just a dancer

Darkland · 07-09-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You would put your child through the ordeal of giving evidence in a court, exposed to the world and have to face the results or walk away with $12m?

I would protect my child and take the money to get her out of the environment that reminded her of the abuse.

Whether MJ did it or not is up fr debate, like did OJ do it?

I seriously doubt the police and AG would of pursued a case against another media star unless they were very confident about it.

Are you kidding me? I can certainly see your point but this was no joe schmo that paid them off. That WHOLE ordeal was a media circus that generated large groups of people like this dave90210 idiot that went ahead and decided he was guilty. That kid will always be stigmatized as the kid MJ molested or the kid whose dad tried to frame MJ and got rich.

He is marked for life. But if this had been joe schmo no one would even know who this kid was and you are right, he could be saved from this ordeal by a payout but the fact remains he will be haunted by this for the rest of his life. Reporters will buzz in on occasion like flies to a carcus, or mentally deranged people, or pilfers looking to write his story or his movie, etc.

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react Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 673	I think Jackson could have done it without Quincy but the same is not true in reverse. Check MJ's demo of Billie Jean, apparently before Quincy even got to it, sounds super close to the final mix: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9E_1eYWx4fM __________________ -- react Last edited by react; 07-08-2009 at 07:50 PM..

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Did you ever hear Michael Jackson take credit for work others had done? 95% of the public who listen to and buy music are ignorant, ignorant about EVERYTHING, not just music. So why stress out about it. 95% of those pathetic mourning fans you see hadn't thought about Michael Jackson in years. Michael was an ENTERTAINER - arguably, the greatest entertainer ever to walk the planet. His music was far from the greatest music ever produced. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-08-2009, 07:12 PM	#51
dave90210 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,745	He was a compulsive child molester he got exactly what he deserved!