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Barefootsies · 07-23-2009, 05:16 PM

Fiddy New Leafs Waiting to be Turned Over.

Spunky · 07-23-2009, 05:16 PM

Cheeseburgers for everybody!

SilentKnight · 07-23-2009, 05:17 PM

Was gonna say fifty group hugs.

AcidMax · 07-23-2009, 05:19 PM

Hopefully those people who think they are "players" now realize that nothing is forever. Things change constantly and either you listen to EVERYTHING people have to say or you fail, eventually. Business, politics, religion, relationships etc., its all the same. You should always listen to what others have to say, research for yourself and form your own opinion. If you don't you are just a fool.

I hope whatever epiphany you had helps.

SteveLightspeed · 07-23-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media

Steve, you're still my hero..

no matter what I'll always remember the secret McDonalds meeting we all had.

and your famous quote "Our industry is the only industry that CONSTANTLY shoots itself in the foot!"

Welcome back!

I think it was "Our industry is the only industry that PAYS itself to KILL itself."

D Ghost · 07-23-2009, 05:21 PM

Working together to innovate and recreate... couldn't have put it better Steve

amacontent · 07-23-2009, 05:21 PM

Maybe AVN should step to the plate and make the same statement.

Don Pueblo · 07-23-2009, 05:23 PM

working together?

b a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a

how old are you dj the kid? 17, 18 tops? you will learn very quickly about that in this biz.

rokstarz · 07-23-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

It's a touching post Steve and one that I can tell is truly sincere.

Me on the other hand, If anyone feels like I have not produced for them or was less than honest in any way.

FUCK YOU.

I always tried my best for everyone and never overpromised and underdelivered.
I have made many of you VERY RICH.

A lot of you know who you are, and I don't need to single anyone out.
Let's just say I am always here to help those of you who appreciate me for who I am and what I do.

I am the BEST at what I do, even if most of you can't define me.

I generate more hits than Manny Pacquiao when it comes to mainstream marketing.
Now has never been a better time to garner mainstream attention.

Mainstream clicks are GREAT clicks these days, and having your site mentioned on any new media ( TMZ, The Dirty, Gawker, Fleshbot, CNN, etc) is the best way to get new members and tons of bookmarks these days.

My prices are reasonable, my results proven.

...and some just cant leave the party.

rhon23 · 07-23-2009, 05:34 PM

Great words from a great man! I heart Steve Lightspeed

TheAmericanCannibal · 07-23-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokstarz

...and some just cant leave the party.

Why leave the party when I have the party favors?
I'm THAT guy in the bathroom with the GOOD SHIT.

WarChild · 07-23-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty

Heck.. I'll spring for Olympia Pizza! or Dicks Drive-In

Steve's bought me dinner more than once but ALWAYS at Denny's! I think it's his favorite place or something.

Relentless · 07-23-2009, 05:48 PM

Contacting you on ICQ... I have something new that may interest you.

Nice post btw ;)

SilentKnight · 07-23-2009, 05:50 PM

A little anecdotal analogy:

Back in the late 70s my aunt & uncle got involved in the ceramic industry when it first began to gain popularity - starting out as a family hobby at first and then gradually expanded it to become one of the largest ceramic retailers in Toronto (at the time) - with a coast-to-coast catalogue operation and ceramic kiln sales as a sideline. They became the go-to people for folks jumping into the ceramic hobby.

As they expanded, so did their personal spending. Nice cars, a lavish condominium in an upscale area in the suburbs, a big yacht, vacations in the Caribbean and exotic hotspots...etc, etc. On the surface they appeared to be the beacon of success and all the relatives were proud of their accomplishments. They'd taken a gamble, worked hard, invested all their savings...and it appeared to be paying off nicely.

Unfortunately, they didn't seem willing to admit (or understand) that ceramics was a fad hobby - the pet rock or Rubik's Cube of its era. In an effort to maintain the illusion of success, their spending remained excessive and unchecked while public interest in doing ceramics waned dramatically. By the time the bubble finally burst in the mid 80s, they were in debt up to their eyeballs with financial commitments they couldn't handle.

As you can imagine, one thing led to another and they shut their retail doors with little notice and temporarily vanished...leaving a lot of angry creditors on the hook for their debts.

I see an aspect of that happening again today in the adult entertainment industry. Not to say that porn is a fad, of course...we all know different. But the business model is changing, the ground rules have grown fuzzy - and everyone's scrambling to figure out where we've all gone wrong.

I'm dismayed when I see producer and webmaster colleagues who I've gotten to know and grown to respect over the years suddenly throw in the towel and halt operations. It's unsettling to see people who I thought were examples of innovative ideas and good business practices vanish with little more than a whimper.

I wish I had more answers to the dilemma.

Miguel T · 07-23-2009, 05:53 PM

Very well said!

SweetT · 07-23-2009, 05:56 PM

Hey Steve....

Your post was sincere and I truly understand your thoughts and I applaud your new commitment to the tasks at hand.

With that said, however, I dont think you give yourself enough credit for what you built. I fondly recall a dinner that I had with 5 or 6 of the biggest "HAVES" in our industry (I think it was like January of 2002) and I said to them "You guys are sitting here on your high horses like you are invincible and the Steve Lightspeed's of the world are working their asses off and are going to take over what you have built" (yes, I used your name specifically). Each of them looked at me like I was crazy and just laughed at me....which was indirectly laughing at you....but you proved them wrong....you built a large program that took away their business. They went through the same thing that you are going through now (sinking sales, etc) but they did it in 2003 and 2004 and only a couple of those guys are even around anymore and none are as dominating.

Those "HAVES" didnt give you anything....you busted your ass and you got what you worked for.....the problems with the "WANTS" now is that they do not have the same dedication and drive as you did back then. They came into the industry at a time where programs were giving them everything they needed to make money and holding their hands as they did. I think that is what stifled creativity more than any "big boys club".

Of course, this is just one mans opinion.

--T

D-Money · 07-23-2009, 05:57 PM

Excellent thread Steve!

The "Haves"and the "Wants", well written.

I am humbled too. So I now will change my Players Ball to the "Wanters Ball"

I'm definitely in the "Wants" crowd.

BAKO · 07-23-2009, 06:05 PM

Great Post Steve

GAMEFINEST · 07-23-2009, 06:05 PM

praise the lord!

getmouthy · 07-23-2009, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Kind words champ. It brought a tear to my eye.

baddog · 07-23-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT

Those "HAVES" didnt give you anything....you busted your ass and you got what you worked for.....the problems with the "WANTS" now is that they do not have the same dedication and drive as you did back then. They came into the industry at a time where programs were giving them everything they needed to make money and holding their hands as they did. I think that is what stifled creativity more than any "big boys club".

Of course, this is just one mans opinion.

--T

Make that two. My first industry show was a [cybernet] thing in Vegas. I went to a seminar and of the people on the panel, the only one I recall at the moment was Steve. I had no idea who he was at the time.

He made quite the impression. I believe the statement, "your biggest competitor is your biggest asset" was what made me pay close attention to that guy.

RyuLion · 07-23-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I hope this will be a new trend on GFY. Threads with no bickering.

sadly, there area a lot of those people..

but that has never stopped me in my tracks.

Penthouse Tony · 07-23-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Money

Excellent thread Steve!

The "Haves"and the "Wants", well written.

I am humbled too. So I now will change my Players Ball to the "Wanters Ball"

I'm definitely in the "Wants" crowd.

Will my Player's card still work at Wanter's Ball?

HorseShit · 07-23-2009, 06:31 PM

Steve, were the stats you posted fake? You may as well be honest at this point.

They seemed to disappear from here pretty quickly.

GT-Omar · 07-23-2009, 06:42 PM

Reading that thread made me feel honored in knowing that I can call you a friend.

SteveLightspeed · 07-23-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Steve, were the stats you posted fake? You may as well be honest at this point.

They seemed to disappear from here pretty quickly.

It was a real screenshot. A glitch in the Lightspeed4 backend combined our actuals into one big day. I thought it was funny, so I posted it, and said "I did it without anyone's help", (which was actually true).

Also, we don't have alot of big affiliates right now either. Most of our best affiliates (except a couple) have moved to selling prepaid ads now, so we can't really count them as "affiliates". If we did, the top 100 chart would look much different.

As far as the new car... buying a new car after 9 years of the old one isn't exactly "balling". Its a nice car, and it has a matching nice payment schedule. But I spent more money on the Phoenix Forum this year that on the new car.

Anyone else ready to admit their ego causes them to exaggerate here and there? Step up. As I said, I'm putting mine away now.

Phoenix · 07-23-2009, 06:54 PM

in jerry mcquire this is your mission statement..lol

nice words though man...be good to get some organization and go after and out people actually hurting the business

natkejs · 07-23-2009, 07:03 PM

Some very valid points in this thread.

I like the initiative, Steve.

lazycash · 07-23-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

It's a touching post Steve and one that I can tell is truly sincere.

Me on the other hand, If anyone feels like I have not produced for them or was less than honest in any way.

FUCK YOU.

I always tried my best for everyone and never overpromised and underdelivered.
I have made many of you VERY RICH.

A lot of you know who you are, and I don't need to single anyone out.
Let's just say I am always here to help those of you who appreciate me for who I am and what I do.

I am the BEST at what I do, even if most of you can't define me.

I generate more hits than Manny Pacquiao when it comes to mainstream marketing.
Now has never been a better time to garner mainstream attention.

Mainstream clicks are GREAT clicks these days, and having your site mentioned on any new media ( TMZ, The Dirty, Gawker, Fleshbot, CNN, etc) is the best way to get new members and tons of bookmarks these days.

My prices are reasonable, my results proven.

In a thread filled with humility, honesty and a calling to unite as an industry whole, you post the most egotistical garbage spam possible, congrats.

slapass · 07-23-2009, 07:13 PM

Kudos Steve! How many people are this open about where there life is?

My friends have pointed out that I didn't sell porn prior to 2003 and maybe in 2010 I should find something new. It is possible that by holding on to this business i am missing other markets that are not in decline.

PornHero · 07-23-2009, 07:20 PM

Hi Steve,

You definitely don't remember meeting me at the Toronto GFY Xmas party in Dec 2004 but I definitely remember meeting you.

You've always been a role model for me in this business - since the beginning I've loved your sites and made great money with your pioneering program.

I just wanted to say I support your post and its good to see humility on GFY for change. Although the "good times" may be over for now there are still profitable opportunities for selling sex on the internet - it just takes more work. Thats ok though, work never scared me. I am here for the long haul because...

I have nowhere else to go.

$5 submissions · 07-23-2009, 07:25 PM

Steve, welcome back and stay strong, man. Ups and downs are what its all about. Things happen for a reason. It's just our job to find our meaning in every moment. I wish you the best!

tony286 · 07-23-2009, 07:27 PM

I met Steve and he struck me as a very warm and kind soul. It was very touching what you wrote but billing practices and tubes are killing this industry. The industry was on vhs and then dvd for years and made a mint thru a few recessions. Because no one was using porn as a lost leader for their other agendas.

BestXXXPorn · 07-23-2009, 07:31 PM

Steve, I've sent you a few emails and a PM on GFY but no response back. Hit me up when you have a chance. I'd like to talk shop and share expertise from either side. I know you were previously looking for a developer or two. If the emails got lost in the tubes let me know and I'll forward them

Thurbs · 07-23-2009, 07:35 PM

i meet steve like 5 or 6 years ago .... was a great guy then, sounds like an even better guy now

how've you been steve?

F-U-Jimmy · 07-23-2009, 07:39 PM

I have admired Steve since i was 19 years old. That was 40 years ago

SBJ · 07-23-2009, 07:45 PM

very nice post Steve!

Baller or not you are still tops when I think of stand up guys in this biz at a time when we need more honest programs

Eva PSC · 07-23-2009, 07:49 PM

awesome thread. It was refreshing to read your post Steve and many others who joined in with their kind words.

TDF · 07-23-2009, 07:54 PM

each one teach one has always been my motto. No reason in being stingy with information in this biz

Due · 07-23-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I met Steve and he struck me as a very warm and kind soul. It was very touching what you wrote but billing practices and tubes are killing this industry.

I really can't say I agree to that. Lack of initiative to develop new functionality that makes you stand out is killing a lot of peoples businesses.

If you wanna get somewhere in this business then you can only rely on yourself to make that happen, most online ventures last 2 years, 4 if you are good and tweak them. After that you better have the "next big thing" ready as you will loose probably about 1/3 of the revenues each year thereafter. (there's always the exception of the rule)
A few examples could be: CJ's, TGPs, MGPs, Blogs, Tubes as far as traffic goes

baddog · 07-23-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Because no one was using porn as a lost leader for their other agendas.

Lost me.

CrkMStanz · 07-23-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Lost me.

giving away massive amounts of porn to generate traffic for an alternate product (dating, toys, etc)

you know....

baddog · 07-23-2009, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrkMStanz

giving away massive amounts of porn to generate traffic for an alternate product (dating, toys, etc)

you know....

You're good.

Shap · 07-23-2009, 08:17 PM

Hey Steve. I know you aren't a fan of me and I'm not a fan of yours. That said I still have great respect for what you've accomplished in this industry. I've always thought you were a smart guy and this post confirmed those thoughts.

MediaGuy · 07-23-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

The adult industry is in trouble. We have all been affected by the global recession, new credit card rules, and the general lack of consumer confidence. Many of us look for someone to blame besides ourselves. After all, we WERE making money, and WE didn?t change anything, so it must be someone else?s fault, right? Tube sites and aggressive billing practices are obvious and easy targets, but I think we need to look again at ourselves.

In 1999, it felt like everyone and everything was new. Even though no one knew each other, and the best ways to earn money online were still undefined, we were all willing to meet and work together to figure it out. No one knew from where the next great idea was going to come. A handful of pioneers were leading the way, and the rest of us took notes when they spoke. The industry was young and hungry, and mostly HUMBLE.

But then the worst thing happened. We all started making lots of money. Along came lavish parties, and the ?Industry RockStars? were created. Immediately, the industry divided into two camps. The ?Haves? and the ?Wants?. The ?Haves? became less humble, and the ?Wants? were not welcome anymore. Parties and conventions became exclusive and invite-only. The ?Haves? power grew while the ?Wants? were left out. But the industry stopped growing because the people with new ideas were effectively shut out.

Along the way, the ?Haves? tried to work together, but clashing egos and poor business skills doomed many of their projects to failure. Eventually, petty bickering forced everyone apart, and the industry started sliding.

Now, the ?Haves? are finding with the poor economy, and lack of new ideas, their businesses are actually shrinking. But how can they go back? Many of the ?Wants? with innovative ideas are now resentful, and unwilling to share. And the RockStars of the past find it difficult to let go of their egos.

So I say the circle is broken, and the only way to fix it is for everyone to change. Let go of resentment and petty disagreements and start working together again. All of us. Most of all, we need to learn from our own history and avoid making the same mistakes.

I want to be the first to start. I want to apologize to everyone. Events in my life have reminded me where I came from. Some of you will laugh at me, or revel in my misfortune, but I?m going to learn from my mistakes and be humble again. I?m ready to let my ego go, stop acting like a RockStar, and return to taking notes when people speak. I'm ready to listen and learn, and party like it's 1999.

Steve Lightspeed

Great essay. Let us discuss in Florida. You're right, and what you describe is the best way to save us from our own lust for grandeur.

Rock on, sir lightspeed!

:D

LiveDose · 07-23-2009, 08:19 PM

I just got a tingling feeling up my leg.

fatfoo · 07-23-2009, 08:24 PM

Tube sites are easy targets indeed. Their traffic shot up so much in 2008 and 2009. TGPs are loosing traffic now to those guys.

Mutt · 07-23-2009, 08:26 PM

i don't get it - what are you aplogizing for? for not being one of the shitheads who have dragged this industry down? for not being a hypocrite like many in this thread? for not 'adapting' by being a scumbag whose moral compass changes in accordance with what's in their bank account?

tony286 · 07-23-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due

I really can't say I agree to that. Lack of initiative to develop new functionality that makes you stand out is killing a lot of peoples businesses.

If you wanna get somewhere in this business then you can only rely on yourself to make that happen, most online ventures last 2 years, 4 if you are good and tweak them. After that you better have the "next big thing" ready as you will loose probably about 1/3 of the revenues each year thereafter. (there's always the exception of the rule)
A few examples could be: CJ's, TGPs, MGPs, Blogs, Tubes as far as traffic goes

I just celebrated our 9th anniversary online. Im not speaking out of turn. You cant beat free sorry.

DatingGold · 07-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Becoming a millionaire is relatively easy, staying a millionaire is a lifelong battle.

07-23-2009, 05:16 PM	#51
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07-23-2009, 05:19 PM	#54
AcidMax Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MI Posts: 1,827	Hopefully those people who think they are "players" now realize that nothing is forever. Things change constantly and either you listen to EVERYTHING people have to say or you fail, eventually. Business, politics, religion, relationships etc., its all the same. You should always listen to what others have to say, research for yourself and form your own opinion. If you don't you are just a fool. I hope whatever epiphany you had helps. __________________ Latest MMA news. http://www.mmawrapup.com

07-23-2009, 05:21 PM	#57
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,815	Maybe AVN should step to the plate and make the same statement. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

07-23-2009, 05:23 PM	#58
Don Pueblo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 656	working together? b a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a how old are you dj the kid? 17, 18 tops? you will learn very quickly about that in this biz. __________________ Don Pueblo Worlds Best Latin Lover

07-23-2009, 05:17 PM	#53
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Was gonna say fifty group hugs.

07-23-2009, 05:21 PM	#56
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Working together to innovate and recreate... couldn't have put it better Steve

07-23-2009, 05:34 PM	#60
rhon23 Rebel Girl Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Island Of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,264	Great words from a great man! I heart Steve Lightspeed

07-23-2009, 05:48 PM	#63
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,698	Contacting you on ICQ... I have something new that may interest you. Nice post btw ;) __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

07-23-2009, 05:50 PM	#64
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	A little anecdotal analogy: Back in the late 70s my aunt & uncle got involved in the ceramic industry when it first began to gain popularity - starting out as a family hobby at first and then gradually expanded it to become one of the largest ceramic retailers in Toronto (at the time) - with a coast-to-coast catalogue operation and ceramic kiln sales as a sideline. They became the go-to people for folks jumping into the ceramic hobby. As they expanded, so did their personal spending. Nice cars, a lavish condominium in an upscale area in the suburbs, a big yacht, vacations in the Caribbean and exotic hotspots...etc, etc. On the surface they appeared to be the beacon of success and all the relatives were proud of their accomplishments. They'd taken a gamble, worked hard, invested all their savings...and it appeared to be paying off nicely. Unfortunately, they didn't seem willing to admit (or understand) that ceramics was a fad hobby - the pet rock or Rubik's Cube of its era. In an effort to maintain the illusion of success, their spending remained excessive and unchecked while public interest in doing ceramics waned dramatically. By the time the bubble finally burst in the mid 80s, they were in debt up to their eyeballs with financial commitments they couldn't handle. As you can imagine, one thing led to another and they shut their retail doors with little notice and temporarily vanished...leaving a lot of angry creditors on the hook for their debts. I see an aspect of that happening again today in the adult entertainment industry. Not to say that porn is a fad, of course...we all know different. But the business model is changing, the ground rules have grown fuzzy - and everyone's scrambling to figure out where we've all gone wrong. I'm dismayed when I see producer and webmaster colleagues who I've gotten to know and grown to respect over the years suddenly throw in the towel and halt operations. It's unsettling to see people who I thought were examples of innovative ideas and good business practices vanish with little more than a whimper. I wish I had more answers to the dilemma.

07-23-2009, 05:53 PM	#65
Miguel T ♦ Web Developer ♦ Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Full-Stack Developer Posts: 12,470	Very well said! __________________ Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

07-23-2009, 05:56 PM	#66
SweetT Shank-A-Potamus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia USA Posts: 1,756	Hey Steve.... Your post was sincere and I truly understand your thoughts and I applaud your new commitment to the tasks at hand. With that said, however, I dont think you give yourself enough credit for what you built. I fondly recall a dinner that I had with 5 or 6 of the biggest "HAVES" in our industry (I think it was like January of 2002) and I said to them "You guys are sitting here on your high horses like you are invincible and the Steve Lightspeed's of the world are working their asses off and are going to take over what you have built" (yes, I used your name specifically). Each of them looked at me like I was crazy and just laughed at me....which was indirectly laughing at you....but you proved them wrong....you built a large program that took away their business. They went through the same thing that you are going through now (sinking sales, etc) but they did it in 2003 and 2004 and only a couple of those guys are even around anymore and none are as dominating. Those "HAVES" didnt give you anything....you busted your ass and you got what you worked for.....the problems with the "WANTS" now is that they do not have the same dedication and drive as you did back then. They came into the industry at a time where programs were giving them everything they needed to make money and holding their hands as they did. I think that is what stifled creativity more than any "big boys club". Of course, this is just one mans opinion. --T __________________ Last edited by SweetT; 07-23-2009 at 06:00 PM..

07-23-2009, 05:57 PM	#67
D-Money Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Player Del Ray Posts: 9,716	Excellent thread Steve! The "Haves"and the "Wants", well written. I am humbled too. So I now will change my Players Ball to the "Wanters Ball" I'm definitely in the "Wants" crowd. __________________ Still Ballin'

07-23-2009, 06:05 PM	#68
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,378	Great Post Steve __________________ http://DatingNetwork.com Telegram: @bakokaye

07-23-2009, 06:05 PM	#69
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,418	praise the lord! __________________ Compound interest.

07-23-2009, 06:31 PM	#74
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	Steve, were the stats you posted fake? You may as well be honest at this point. They seemed to disappear from here pretty quickly.

07-23-2009, 06:42 PM	#75
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07-23-2009, 06:54 PM	#77
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	in jerry mcquire this is your mission statement..lol nice words though man...be good to get some organization and go after and out people actually hurting the business __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

07-23-2009, 07:03 PM	#78
natkejs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nomad Land Posts: 1,607	Some very valid points in this thread. I like the initiative, Steve. __________________

07-23-2009, 07:13 PM	#80
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	Kudos Steve! How many people are this open about where there life is? My friends have pointed out that I didn't sell porn prior to 2003 and maybe in 2010 I should find something new. It is possible that by holding on to this business i am missing other markets that are not in decline.

07-23-2009, 07:20 PM	#81
PornHero Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,381	Hi Steve, You definitely don't remember meeting me at the Toronto GFY Xmas party in Dec 2004 but I definitely remember meeting you. You've always been a role model for me in this business - since the beginning I've loved your sites and made great money with your pioneering program. I just wanted to say I support your post and its good to see humility on GFY for change. Although the "good times" may be over for now there are still profitable opportunities for selling sex on the internet - it just takes more work. Thats ok though, work never scared me. I am here for the long haul because... I have nowhere else to go.

07-23-2009, 07:25 PM	#82
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Steve, welcome back and stay strong, man. Ups and downs are what its all about. Things happen for a reason. It's just our job to find our meaning in every moment. I wish you the best! __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

07-23-2009, 07:27 PM	#83
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I met Steve and he struck me as a very warm and kind soul. It was very touching what you wrote but billing practices and tubes are killing this industry. The industry was on vhs and then dvd for years and made a mint thru a few recessions. Because no one was using porn as a lost leader for their other agendas. Last edited by tony299; 07-23-2009 at 07:28 PM..

07-23-2009, 07:31 PM	#84
BestXXXPorn Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 2,277	Steve, I've sent you a few emails and a PM on GFY but no response back. Hit me up when you have a chance. I'd like to talk shop and share expertise from either side. I know you were previously looking for a developer or two. If the emails got lost in the tubes let me know and I'll forward them __________________ ICQ: 258-202-811 \| Email: eric{at}bestxxxporn.com

07-23-2009, 07:35 PM	#85
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	i meet steve like 5 or 6 years ago .... was a great guy then, sounds like an even better guy now how've you been steve?

07-23-2009, 07:39 PM	#86
F-U-Jimmy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Visiting a city near you soon ! Posts: 6,853	I have admired Steve since i was 19 years old. That was 40 years ago __________________ icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

07-23-2009, 07:45 PM	#87
SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,375	very nice post Steve! Baller or not you are still tops when I think of stand up guys in this biz at a time when we need more honest programs __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

07-23-2009, 07:49 PM	#88
Eva PSC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 994	awesome thread. It was refreshing to read your post Steve and many others who joined in with their kind words. __________________ www.PinkStarCash.com Eva ICQ: 225 740 053 See who I am at AdultWho'sWho!

07-23-2009, 07:54 PM	#89
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	each one teach one has always been my motto. No reason in being stingy with information in this biz __________________ Sig heil

07-23-2009, 08:17 PM	#94
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hey Steve. I know you aren't a fan of me and I'm not a fan of yours. That said I still have great respect for what you've accomplished in this industry. I've always thought you were a smart guy and this post confirmed those thoughts.

07-23-2009, 08:19 PM	#96
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	I just got a tingling feeling up my leg. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

07-23-2009, 08:24 PM	#97
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Tube sites are easy targets indeed. Their traffic shot up so much in 2008 and 2009. TGPs are loosing traffic now to those guys. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

07-23-2009, 08:26 PM	#98
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i don't get it - what are you aplogizing for? for not being one of the shitheads who have dragged this industry down? for not being a hypocrite like many in this thread? for not 'adapting' by being a scumbag whose moral compass changes in accordance with what's in their bank account? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-23-2009, 08:42 PM	#100
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	Becoming a millionaire is relatively easy, staying a millionaire is a lifelong battle. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303