Another new male talent fails on set...

[billywatson]

From my perspective, here's how it works:

New male talent with big dick walks on to a porn set for the first time and kicks ass. He kicks ass cause he's fucking new pussy, and he's excited cause he's finally made it to a porn set, and he's getting paid to fuck new pussy, and like is good.

But during that first set, it dawns on him that this is work. He needs to open up for the camera. He needs to put on a show. This isn't making love with a girl in your bedroom with the lights out...this is fucking for sport in front of a bunch of people you've never met before in your life.

He does it again one or two more times. It's work. Maybe he gets with a shitty director who thinks he's Steven Spielberg. Or the girl doesn't like him. Or the lights are hot and he's starting to sweat a whole bunch. Or the girl doesn't like him. Or he fucked his girlfriend the night before his scene and he's lost his edge. Or the girl doesn't like him. Or the director thinks he's making the next Schindler's List.

Whatever it is, Stunt Cock is now thinking about all sorts of different things except the one single thing he needs on his mind: there's some new pussy in front of me, and I need to fuck it.

He fails.

Once he fails, there's a cancer now in his brain. He knows if it happens once, it can happen again.

Some run to the doctor's office; most go away forever.

Ever wonder why (before the age of Viagra) there were maybe 7 dudes in porn and a million girls?

Now you know why.

[Paper_Amar]

very true

btw am an avid reader of your blog and appreciate your man love for WILCO... great band!

Wanted to see what you thought of Built to Spill

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

very true

btw am an avid reader of your blog and appreciate your man love for WILCO... great band!

Wanted to see what you thought of Built to Spill

Built to Spill is OK! I have one record of theirs...I forget the name. I think there's a beer can on it or something.

Thanks for the kind words on the blog, bro. I really appreciate it.

[jakethedog]

I have an average of less than 1% of males can even get a decent hard on on set with out some sort of serious work from the female .. then .. THEN asking for a pop shot with in a 5 min time frame .. fuck it .. that's why I even stayed performing as long as I did .. I was always looking for a decent replacement ..

[beemk]

yeah, im sure getting freaked out with the closet case director on your set offering to "fluff them" doesn't help out too much.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by beemk

yeah, im sure getting freaked out with the closet case director on your set offering to "fluff them" doesn't help out too much.

Does it ever end with you?

[GUNNER]

Yea the blog is great, nicely done.
Just linked to you from Gunner'sGirls

[Robbie]

Hey guys...just wanted to share our experience.

On Claudia-Marie's site I shoot every scene we've ever done. And we use 90% amateur male talent that have never done it before. We lived in South Carolina until Oct. of 2008 and that's all that was there. Just "normal" guys who had never done a porn video before but were fans of CM.

I've never had a "fail" on any scene yet. Every guy came in, got it up, did the scene and gave the cum shot.

I think part of it is the girl involved (her attitude, not how hot she is). For instance, CM actually loves having sex. Not many girls in porn bring that kind of enthusiasm to the set. Most of the ones I've been on set with are like they are punching a time card. If the director stops for a second to adjust lighting, take stills, etc. the girl turns off like a light switch. I guess they think they are being "professional"

CM doesn't do that, she keeps right on going. Doesn't sound like a big deal...but it is if you're the guy naked in front of the lights trying to keep your dick hard.

Also the directors don't exactly help either in a lot of cases. When I started back in 1995 it was as a male talent shooting with Brian Lambert for the original Naughty Neighbors video series. And back then there were no fluorescent lights...it was all tungsten and about a million degrees in the room. And everybody shot to film with two actual film cameras (no camcorder stuff).

There were usually at least 4 guys working the room while you were trying to keep your cock hard, your mind focused. And then Brian would make snide remarks or do shit deliberately to make you lose your hard on! lol

And it was the same with every director I worked with. It didn't make much sense to me. Time is money and yet they would go out of their way to fuck with the male talent to try and make them lose their hard on.

That's why when I started shooting stuff myself...I made up my mind to learn from all those things and make sure I didn't do that too. I'm much happier having a 100% success rate than being able to swap stories with other directors about male talent failure or how only guys from the agencies can shoot porn.

I guess I'm trying to say...it is possible to shoot amateur male talent if you have the right girl and you keep the set stress free and sex-friendly...loose feeling without getting too businesslike. Setting the stage for real sex to take place while maintaining control of the set the whole time.

I think having male talent that aren't "pro" has actually been one of the many reasons we've been so successful. Real enthusiasm, real desire, real fireworks...as opposed to the stunt cocks who walk in and "fake" it.

[Relentless]

Contact me on ICQ# 266942896

Got an idea for you ;)

[Manowar]

been reading your blog since about 2k5, love it

[Lace]

poor guy

[davecummings]

GETTING INTO THE PORN INDUSTRY
BY: Dave Cummings----Porn Star/Producer/Director


Many individuals, both female and male, fantasize about becoming a porn star, or somehow finding a way to get into the Porn Industry. Some folks want to be in front of the camera as actual porn stars, while some just want to be involved with porn productions and become an “insider”. Now that the Internet has flourished, it’s become another avenue into porn for those seeking entry. Let’s look at some of the different routes one might travel in their quest to be involved with the world of porn.

For reasonably attractive females with nice figures, it’s relatively easy. Knowing someone already in the Industry might facilitate their journey into porn, otherwise they’ll need to do some Internet research to find and contact an agent or manager, preferably a reputable one in the Los Angeles area where most porn productions take place. In the past, there has been a steady stream of new legal-age girls wanting the adventure and/or money and/or fame of becoming a starlet; but, in the last few years there’s been a significant increase, indeed almost a flood, in the numbers of women hoping to become famous and affluent porn stars and to later return to their high school class reunions and bask in the glow of stardom. The name of the game during recent years is the demand for new fresh faces; this often results in pursuits by producers and directors seeking to hire new starlets as a means of increasing sales. Thus new wannabe porn starlets are in demand. New girls can make a lot of money, especially when they first enter the Industry; but, unless they are especially good at their craft or have extraordinary professionalism and drive to make porn a career, the need for the even newer fresh faces soon becomes a challenge for their longevity as the even “newer” incoming girls seem to nudge some of the existing faces out of the limelight. The exceptional girls who end up making it a longer term career usually are well known for their dependability, punctuality, a solid enjoyment of sex which is exhibited by truly hot sex scene performances, personality, and high standards of all-around professionalism.

Let’s look now at the issue of men wanting to become porn studs. Prior to the days of prescription pills to aid and enhance one’s sexual performance abilities, the number of porn studs in the Industry was much smaller than at present, and viewers had to endure seeing the same core group of us guys over and over. The reason why we were qualified as career porn studs was our “functionality”, something that still applies today; candidly, even some new guys presently masking their use of pharmaceutical assistance still seem to sometimes get “stage fright” and some seem to have difficulty doing a timely “money shot”. I’ll discuss the functionality matter a little later.

Because I (and many other Adult Industry individuals and entities) receive hundreds and hundreds of serious inquiries every month from guys wanting to know how they can become porn stars, I’ve written up this general response. As a Producer and Director, I’d love to have a much larger pool of proven male performers so that female viewers could enjoy watching handsome studs performing with some girl while the female viewer fantasizes about herself actually being the girl in the video. I sense that the porn viewers now include more and more women and couples, unlike the past when most viewers were masturbating men.

The problem here is for me to be candid without hurting anyone’s feelings; there’s no easy way to tell guys that the chance of them getting even a “try-out” or an audition is remote (actually, there no longer is such a thing as an “audition”, let alone getting one with a new applicant’s favorite porn starlet!). The present lack of “want ads” for new studs has little to do with new aspirants, but rather results from the informal system that’s evolved over time based mostly upon past experiences of disappointed Directors who let themselves be talked into using some previous new guys who touted themselves as true studs (which they well might have been in their private life, but unfortunately were not when they got in front of cameras on a set with people watching---new guys with performance difficulties are nightmares for Directors, crews, and everyone involved with the shoot, including the starlet scheduled to have sex on film with the aspirant). Probably, the new guy who wants to get into performing undoubtedly is a true stud with the ladies or his significant other, and/or in a group situation like a swinger’s party, but merely deciding to become a porn star does not get him even considered anymore. The present lack of enthusiasm for giving new guys a shot at a career as a porn stud was informally established when similar men in the past were strongly recommended by someone (perhaps even by someone in the Industry, or by a starlet or female with first-hand knowledge), only to have “performance anxiety” and freeze up in front of the cameras, lights, and sometimes his inpatient co-star as well as the crew/director/producer, other actors and actresses, make-up persons, on-lookers, catering people, magazine photographers, location owners and their “gawking” friends/neighbors/relatives, company owners and staff, Industry media, online gossip or news columnists, etc. A new guy who loses his “functionality” causes loss of production time and filming momentum, and possibly additional expenses in overtime charges for the location, rental equipment, and crew. Resultantly, Directors and Producers usually will not accept new guys, no matter who recommends them or how impressive the new guy or his girlfriend says his penile “credentials” and sexual performance abilities are. It’s been my experience, and that of many insiders, that new guys are absolutely certain and insistent that they can adequately perform in a functionary manner, but most still fail no matter how much confidence they exhibit, sometimes in spite of the prescription pills they might have privately ingested.

If so many serious and motivated “potential porn stud applicants” contact me constantly, can you imagine how many are writing/emailing/phoning the porn girls, insiders and other porn guys like me, studios, magazines, crews, gentlemen’s clubs etc? Yet, even with new guys masking their use of pharmaceuticals and/or sometimes being part of a male-female couple, I see only 5-6 credible new guys a year making it into the business; and, even some of these get “cut from the roster” if they don’t possess adequate and consistent functionality. It doesn’t seem to matter (or be an adequate excuse to the studio owners, producers, directors, crews, starlets, or anyone else adversely affected by delays due to sub-par functionality) if the new guy just ran an exhausting marathon, was taking decongestants or antihistamines for a sinus blockage or a cold, or unavoidably got only a few hours sleep the previous night----it’s an unforgiving business decision not to take a chance using the new guy ever again. Worse, the word of a new guy’s non-functionality seems to spread like the speed of light throughout the Industry. There’s a lot of pressure on the male performer; unlike his female co-star, he can’t fake sexual excitement nor can he hide climaxing too soon before the director gives him the directive to do the “money shot”. Instead, the guy has to have a solid and almost-constant erection whenever the camera is rolling, and for the hour-plus it usually takes to film the hardcore portion of the scene, and in spite of the constant stopping and restarting for such things as changing a camera battery, relocating lighting, stopping for required photos of the action, shifting back and forth between the hardcore and the cable-television non-hardcore filming, starlet make-up touch ups, potty breaks, cigarette breaks for cast/crew, water, the sound of someone’s ringing or vibrating cell phone, or a passing airplane, or the starting-up of a lawn mower down the street, and on and on!

The key for a new guy is all centered around functionality, namely: getting an erection quickly; not climaxing too soon; and, indeed being able to do a money shot somewhat soon after the Director calls for it. Sometimes, new guys taking prescription medications intended to help them with their sexual performance have difficulty getting the money shot to happen quickly enough. Since “FUNCTIONALITY” is the name of the game for guys, let me reiterate that penis size, looks, muscles, and acting ability mean almost nothing for a guy. What DOES matter is the guy’s ability to get an almost instant erection in front of people on a set, to maintain functionality for the period of the shoot including being able to get “wood” erected quickly after the many stop-n-go interruptions during the shoot, to control the erection so as to not cum before the Director gives the OK, and, upon being directed to climax, the guy should do it relatively quickly without wasting the time of the starlet or the production folks.

[davecummings]

Part 2 (of two parts)

Of course, guys must arrive on set on time, bring the correct wardrobe, have perfect personal hygiene in every way, bring their not-more-than 30 days old Adult Industry Medical (AIM) tests done via the state-of-the-art PCR/DNA testing regimen for chlamydia/gonorrhea/HIV, and bring their ID’s, including one government-issued ID showing the guy’s photo and date of birth on it. I always bring my State Driver’s license and my Department of Defense military ID card. Like I teach in my www.howtomakeadultvideos.com classes, in The Adult Industry, there’s real time, military time, and porn time – yes, porn time is usually the latest of them, so be prepared to sit around for possibly hours waiting for your sex scene to (finally) begin!

OK, so other than being a multi-millionaire who buys a porn company, what possibilities exist for a new guy to get paid to have sex with beautiful women in the Adult Industry? Well, one direct way is for the aspiring new guy to “discover” a SUPER-beautiful new girl who will agree to enter the Industry while letting him ride her coat-tails, and demanding that he be the exclusive stud she will ever “work with” on film (“work with” is our term for having sex in porn shoots). This can sometimes work if the girl is truly sizzling hot; it’s important, though, to understand that every year there are many hundreds of new girls entering the Industry seeking a shot at becoming a famous porn star, almost all of whom will work with any of the already-proven porn guys the Producer/Director wants to hire. A new aspirant’s “coat-tail” girl must therefore be so much more attractive than the other new girls, as well as the already-established other girls, that the Director will want her in his production so much that he might agree to her demand of working only with “her” new guy. Candidly, be aware that some new coat-tail girls might sever the deal with new guys at this stage if it means that they might lose THEIR chance to get a shot if the Director balks at hiring the new guy; after all, it means the Director must take a production cost chance on the coat-tail girl and her new guy, a risk he doesn’t have to take if he instead books one of the many other girls who will work with any of the famous star studs of the Director’s choosing. It might help if a new guy has and shows the Director a couple of tapes of him performing with girls in front of 10 or 20 other people to prove that he doesn’t get stage fright in front of lots of people. If the new guy and his coat-tail girl get some initial bookings and do well with them and another 8-10 shoots, perhaps he can then let it me known that he’s available for bookings with other girls in gangbangs and other productions; if the new guy performs successfully and meets the “functionality” criteria consistently, he’ll join the ranks of the already proven porn studs. Unlike the girls who make a lot of money, we guys are merely props to the point that the pay per sex scene is considerably less than what the girls make!

Another possible way to get into porn is via porn productions. Although the bi-monthly classes I teach in adult film-making are comprehensive and include information for couples wanting to film for their own private viewing or for doing “Cam” shows on the Internet, most students want to become producers as a means of making money and/or getting laid! Once a new producer firmly establishes himself or herself as a reputable player in the adult film arena, contact can then be established with agents and managers of porn talent (“talent” is the term for the women and men who appear in front of the camera) and start arranging bookings. It’s not surprising to find that some male producers hire themselves as the male talent, and then hire female porn stars whom they are especially sexually excited about working with. And, some new female producers might inject themselves into sex scenes with either males or females. The AIM testing I mentioned above comes into play, as professional talent mandates the tests, even if a condom will be used for the filming – after all, condoms do sometimes break or malfunction! I’ll return to productions per se in a bit, but first some information about other possible ways to be involved with productions, or to somehow find oneself as an “insider”.

A crew for porn shoots can be as few as a cameraman and a still photographer (to take shots for DVD box covers, as well as for marketing materials); but, some sets have large crews, such as additional cameramen for multi-angle and/or cable version footage as well as for “behind-the-scenes” filming for inclusion into the DVD “extras”. Sets can also have a Director (sometimes in addition to the Producer), Production Assistants, lighting and audio specialists, and ancillary folks for doing make-up, catering, paperwork, etc. Disappointingly, except for the large gangbangs, very few sets have “fluffers” any more (girls who orally “prepare” porn studs to do the on-camera performing). Producers/Directors seem to prefer using the same experienced crewmembers they’ve previously hired. Additions to crews usually come from recommendations from other directors, present crews, and talent, thus providing a basis for experience and professionalism. Directors and crews sometimes hire new crew folks who they find out about from various other sources, but they prefer people who won’t make production mistakes or hit on the girls while working on the set. As an aside, there’s no such thing as “Crew Appreciation Day” where porn girls give oral pleasure to crewmembers, so don’t expect any action if you get lucky and land a job through your Uncle Louie as an Assistant Production Assistant, or whatever. If you’re wondering if crewmembers ever get a shot at performing, I understand that some have had the opportunity to occasionally do “stunt” cum shots for porn studs who were having a bad day---because of the AIM and Industry-mandated testing regimen, such money shots are never to the girl’s face or near her orifices. Yes, crewmembers sometimes get to date porn girls on a personal level.

Script writing opportunities to get on sets or become an insider might offer some possibilities; however, scripts seem to be somewhat favored from an inner circle of already established “insider” authors. I understand that scripts provided by new writers result in payment of only hundreds, not thousands, of dollars. Since porn films and their budgets aren’t usually in the same league with productions such as “Gone With The Wind”, the Directors often write their own scripts. And, since there’s so much non-feature porn presently being produced, dialogue is often determined, staged, and improvised on the spot.

Some folks contact producers/directors agents, talent, and production companies with the offers of production investor funding. Although this sometimes gets outsiders inside, I need to return now to the general matter of productions per se and opine that we presently have a glut of new producers and a lot of excess footage and films looking for Distributors; thus, like the real estate markets have peaks and valleys, this might not be a good time for investing in films. Nevertheless, being involved with productions does offer a way to enter the world of porn. My class and it’s content at my www.howtomakeadultvideos.com site goes into significant detail about things like distribution, legalities and permits, cameras, lighting, resources, budgets, locations, shooting techniques, production ins and outs, casting, agents/managers, editing, packaging, marketing, happenings and problem-solving on porn sets, revenue sources, and a host of other aspects. Bottom line, getting into some aspect of production is a way for possibly entering the world of porn.

Another possibility is the Internet. More and more, we’re seeing adult Internet companies actually shooting content (photos and video), instead of licensing it from content providers or streaming video feeds. The advantage to shooting such content is the exclusiveness of the content, instead of their sites using some of the same content that can be seen at many other sites. Additionally, their output can later be placed on DVD and/or Video-On-Demand delivery systems, thus making them quasi-porn production folks. I sense that porn companies and adult Internet organizations might someday mix and match, sort of converging into cooperative entities, maybe even consolidating. I think the present adult Internet direction provides another avenue for entry into the porn world. Aspiring porn studs who have contacts with adult Internet folks or who know “Cam” girls who sometimes put on shows with guys might want to explore entry into the adult Internet content business as either producers or talent members as a way to get into porn?

All of the above is my personal opinion, and even though it might not sound encouraging, I had to be truthful and candid. I think my comments are on target. Keep in mind that you’re not alone in wanting to be a porn stud or production guy or insider—millions of others fantasize about it too, and hope that they personally have what it takes to become the next big-name male porn star. From time to time I’ll add to these comments via my “From The Trenches” or “Getting Into The Porn Industry” links at my www.davecummings.com, so I recommend that you check them out every once in a while; in fact, some past “From The Trenches” columns already discuss the present porn production situation.

Good luck,

Dave Cummings
Porn Star/Producer/Director

[rayadp05]

I've never had it happen to me but it does happen to alot of guys. The key is that you have to be skilled at timing your cumshots as well as keeping your concentration without letting any outside thoughts interfere with your performance. Hell, I have been in videos where I was the only guy with four or five different girls (with no takes and full 30 minute videos) and I always came out just fine with my performances. Out of the 150 or so adult videos that I have been in, never had any problems.

But yeah, it takes alot more than just fucking some girl. Male performers need to be able fuck the female talent according to the directors needs. They need to be able to last long enough, be able to follow directions while they are fucking and they need to be able to put on a great perfomance....all at the same time and throughout the entire scene. And if it makes a male performer uncomfortable to have other people in the room, they don't belong in this business.

Anyone looking for male talent, hit me up.

[DWB]

Good post.

I need some new dudes in Thailand. Anyone know some crazy mofos who want to come over, hit me up.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Good post.

I need some new dudes in Thailand. Anyone know some crazy mofos who want to come over, hit me up.

I know someone who is thinking about heading to Thailand for a vacation. I'm sure he'd be willing to bang out some Thai cunt

[camperjohn64]

I did a few shoots and admit I am the 99% guy. BUT the one shoot that went really well was exactly as Robbie said when the model did what Claudia-Marie does. And that was, that I really felt the girl was into me and was having a good time. She was all over me and I really felt she loved doing it. I was pretty hard on that shoot.

Dave is my hero.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by camperjohn64

I did a few shoots and admit I am the 99% guy. BUT the one shoot that went really well was exactly as Robbie said when the model did what Claudia-Marie does. And that was, that I really felt the girl was into me and was having a good time. She was all over me and I really felt she loved doing it. I was pretty hard on that shoot.

Dave is my hero.

Dave is everybody's hero!

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Manowar

been reading your blog since about 2k5, love it

I appreciate the kind words bro!

[beemk]

Originally Posted by billywatson

Does it ever end with you?

when you stop hooking up with guys it will. and dont give me that "its not gay because i was doing the pitching" excuse.

[Iron Fist]

It's no secret why Ron Jeremy got so many scenes.... he knows how to perform on cue, but man that guy is fugly....

[papagmp]

Hey - this might be the only 1 percenter club I've ever belonged too

To be honest, I kinda like fuckin the girls that are real bitches before the camera rolls - sure she's a cunt - but in 3 minutes, that cunt will be on her fuckin knees sucking my cock - and you all just get to sit there and watch - so

[ParlourCash Karl]

With us it is similar to Robbie, we only shoot every day people and go through from start to finish without stopping it works out pretty well for us. To date we have also not had anyone that has not been able to perform. The girl has a lot to do with that and if she is into it that definitely seems to do the trick.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Danielles Parlour

With us it is similar to Robbie, we only shoot every day people and go through from start to finish without stopping it works out pretty well for us. To date we have also not had anyone that has not been able to perform. The girl has a lot to do with that and if she is into it that definitely seems to do the trick.

I really like your site. I'm signing up to promote you.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Danielles Parlour

With us it is similar to Robbie, we only shoot every day people and go through from start to finish without stopping it works out pretty well for us. To date we have also not had anyone that has not been able to perform. The girl has a lot to do with that and if she is into it that definitely seems to do the trick.

Here is something I have experienced shooting in Asia and Latin America.

* The locals usually have no problems getting erections no matter what the situation is. My guess is because they don't understand the pressure that may be put on them to perform. Well, that and they are not the sharpest tools in the shed so they probably don't even give it any thought. They just do what they do naturally, which is fuck. The downside is, they don't understand how to work with the camera or lights and often hunch, blocking the shots you need or cum too quick. So I prefer not to use them. Besides, who likes to watch Asian boys fuck anything?

Latinos are better however, but the downside to that is they lack the language ability to speak to the models in English. I prefer Brazilians, as they can fuck ANYTHING, but the downside to them I've found is that they seem to have a routine they go through and don't do well when you want to just "wing it" and see where the scene goes, letting the two models interact with each other. They are pretty mechanical, but they usually have good wood and can cum many times a day. Fucking animals. I like to bring them to Asia where they will fuck girls, ladyboys and boys. Whatever I want to shoot, they will fuck it, making my job hella easy.

* Back when we used to shoot very amateur and unplanned content, guys I worked with had very little problems with wood. We would just roll the video and let whatever happened, happen. To date, that old content is STILL my best selling content. However, as soon as we started shooting in the style of others, as requested by LA companies, my guys all started having wood problems.

We now had to spend more time on photos, getting them all right, lighting had to be better, we needed certain aspects to a scene, a pick up and a handful of positions that the companies wanted, and so on. It become mechanical for us and we got a LOT of pressure from these companies to shoot it like this guy or that company. The result, I feel, was inferior product, poor performance from the males and generally a stale scene.

With that said, I do admit this job is not for everyone and there is a reason the old days only had a few porn gods who could do it. But I also believe there is something to be said about a relaxed, amateur shoot with no pressure to get it perfect.

[Raf1]

an amateur style shoot where the guy and girl are relaxed turns out better in most cases if the lighting is half-decent, at least that's what I like best

[bbobby86]

true true ...

[John-ACWM]

Nice read.True

[eroticsexxx]

[ExLust]

Nice. Thanks for sharing.

[Drake]

What is the duration of an actual shoot? The end user watches a scenes that is usually half hour from start to finish. Is the actual shooting of a scene much longer than that?

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Mike33

What is the duration of an actual shoot? The end user watches a scenes that is usually half hour from start to finish. Is the actual shooting of a scene much longer than that?

Depends on the director. Depends on if you need softcore too. Lotsa variables.

It's rare when talent fails on my set. Very rare. But it happens. I never really mentioned that in my original post.

[davecummings]

Originally Posted by Mike33

What is the duration of an actual shoot? The end user watches a scenes that is usually half hour from start to finish. Is the actual shooting of a scene much longer than that?

A hardcore scene filming for an edited 15-20 minute final scene might involve recorded filming of between 45-75 minutes. That's without a softcore/cable version being filmed (which would have lengthened the total filming time somewhat)

Dave

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[pornguy]

Even with Viagra there are only 12 dudes in Porn they are all ugly as fuck and make the stupidest faces on the planet.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Even with Viagra there are only 12 dudes in Porn they are all ugly as fuck and make the stupidest faces on the planet.

That's because big companies outsource their shoots and the "director" (the guy holding the camcorder lol ) ends up using the same guys from LA Direct and whatever other "agencies" in LA are there over and over and over.

Stop surfing generic stuff and start checking out the thousands of independents out here who make porn that will get your cock hard as a rock instead of boring you to tears.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's because big companies outsource their shoots and the "director" (the guy holding the camcorder lol ) ends up using the same guys from LA Direct and whatever other "agencies" in LA are there over and over and over.

Stop surfing generic stuff and start checking out the thousands of independents out here who make porn that will get your cock hard as a rock instead of boring you to tears.

I LOVE your stuff Robbie. its awesome.. But soooo many of the movies out there have the same shit on a different day.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by pornguy

But soooo many of the movies out there have the same shit on a different day.

I know...the reason is that they have their crew trying to shoot 3 and 4 scenes a day to get content to update all of the sites in their program.
And how many "storylines" can a director come up with on the fly? How many good scenarios can a guy possibly concoct with that kind of scheduling.

I have the luxury of shooting a much more relaxed schedule and giving more thought to what we do. Hell sometimes I come up with something and spend the next 5 or 6 days just running it around my head and finding things that make me laugh.

I couldn't imagine having to shoot the same dozen girls fucking the same dozen guys every day of the week, 3 and 4 times a day without it coming out starting to look the same.

Having been on the set with CM whenever we've allowed her to shoot with other companies...it was just amazingly void of any creativity. Not that the guys doing the shooting aren't creative. It's just that they are burnt out and overloaded. And they end up going with what's familiar to them in order to save time. So you end up with the same talent, the same camera angles, etc. Almost like an assembly line.

[FlexxAeon]

not a performer by any means but i have been in several "performance like" situations working at KSEXradio and now RudeTV, where i'm getting banged or blown while there's bunch of people in the room, lights, and someone constantly distracting you with talking shit because they have to to keep the show moving. because i'm able to get wood and maintain it, i sometimes get asked why i don't look into performing. the main reason (i decided a while ago) to not do it was because i heard stories of what robbie described as the "punching a time card" attitude of some girls. i knew that the first time that happened to me, it would destroy my ego. lord knows what it would do to my ability to get an erection. had to say "no thanks"

[davecummings]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

not a performer by any means but i have been in several "performance like" situations working at KSEXradio and now RudeTV, where i'm getting banged or blown while there's bunch of people in the room, lights, and someone constantly distracting you with talking shit because they have to to keep the show moving. because i'm able to get wood and maintain it, i sometimes get asked why i don't look into performing. the main reason (i decided a while ago) to not do it was because i heard stories of what robbie described as the "punching a time card" attitude of some girls. i knew that the first time that happened to me, it would destroy my ego. lord knows what it would do to my ability to get an erection. had to say "no thanks"

Gawd forbid that ever happens, but if it does---that's when you HAVE to find something about that girl that sexually turns you on, be it her nipples, her eyes, her smile, her lips, her "whatever"; if that doesn't work, fantasize that she's one of the girls that you've previously "worked with" that had you rock hard; then, concentrate on whatever excites you and sexually enjoy it to professionally get the rest of the scene done.

[burntfilm]

This thread is full of interesting stuff. two thumbs for a good read, I'd never even considered the subject matter. You guys should all get together and write a sorta bathroom book about this stuff.

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

because i'm able to get wood and maintain it, i sometimes get asked why i don't look into performing. the main reason (i decided a while ago) to not do it was because i heard stories of what robbie described as the "punching a time card" attitude of some girls. i knew that the first time that happened to me, it would destroy my ego. lord knows what it would do to my ability to get an erection. had to say "no thanks"

Oh gwad - those are the most fun to fuck. Stupid cunt is going to HAVE to wipe that stupid smirk off her face suck my cock whether she likes it or not - just thinking about the little slut pretending to enjoy it and me knowing that she's hating it is a turn-on in it's own way.

A lot like fucking when you're married

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by burntfilm

This thread is full of interesting stuff. two thumbs for a good read, I'd never even considered the subject matter. You guys should all get together and write a sorta bathroom book about this stuff.

Awesome idea - not just the failures of others - but the "fail' moments of our own.

I'll never forget the time I had a fit of explosive diarrhea in the middle of a shoot - but that's a different story..........

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by papagmp

I'll never forget the time I had a fit of explosive diarrhea in the middle of a shoot - but that's a different story..........

I can't believe you just did that.

[Porno Dan]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Hey guys...just wanted to share our experience.

I've never had a "fail" on any scene yet. Every guy came in, got it up, did the scene and gave the cum shot.

I think part of it is the girl involved (her attitude, not how hot she is). For instance, CM actually loves having sex. Not many girls in porn bring that kind of enthusiasm to the set. Most of the ones I've been on set with are like they are punching a time card. If the director stops for a second to adjust lighting, take stills, etc. the girl turns off like a light switch. I guess they think they are being "professional"

CM doesn't do that, she keeps right on going. Doesn't sound like a big deal...but it is if you're the guy naked in front of the lights trying to keep your dick hard.

I think having male talent that aren't "pro" has actually been one of the many reasons we've been so successful. Real enthusiasm, real desire, real fireworks...as opposed to the stunt cocks who walk in and "fake" it.

We shoot three regular guys every week with top porn girls every week for our Hand Job Winner, Blow Job Winner and Fuck A Fan sites and I totally agree with you.

The girls make all the difference.

The girls who go out of their way to make the guys feel special and the ones who get the guys to perform the best.

The girls that are primadonnas are the ones whose guys struggle.

Thank God we have two fluffers on our sets at all times.

[Drake]

I've never used Viagra. I assume all talent uses it?

[burntfilm]

Originally Posted by papagmp

Awesome idea - not just the failures of others - but the "fail' moments of our own.

I'll never forget the time I had a fit of explosive diarrhea in the middle of a shoot - but that's a different story..........

that's just horrible... may be a market for it in Germany

[Porno Dan]

Originally Posted by Mike33

I've never used Viagra. I assume all talent uses it?

Not that many use Viagra anymore.

A lot of them use over the counter pills like Rhino 51 or Rock Hard Weekend.

These pills stay in your system longer, have less side effects and, are a lot better suited to filming than Viagra.

I am speaking from first hand experience about this.

[alias]

"Hard" job for sure.

[Great Shooter]

I got a boner