VISA nukes "Sleep" sites. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

2012 · 09-11-2009, 07:06 PM

there goes Christmas

Agent 488 · 09-11-2009, 07:07 PM

51 kootos .

born2blog · 09-11-2009, 07:11 PM

thank goodness I've never promoted this niche!!

Iron Fist · 09-11-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Yes, for each problem there is a solution. If you have "poo" content, just say it's chocolate. VISA can't tell... I mean.. smell.. the difference.

err I mean...

NaughtyRob · 09-11-2009, 08:29 PM

My "sleeping" stuff sells well on clips4sale, I recommend those that have sleeping stuff put it on vod and clip sites.

Due · 09-11-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

"Sleep" will just be changed into "daydreaming" or "coma". Most of the models are not sleeping anyway, so why waste the content when you can easily change the context

comamodels.com / comadates.com sounds kinda hot

NY Jester · 09-11-2009, 08:55 PM

I have to agree with Robbie on this one. Just as Hollywood movies work on fiction and fantasy at times, why cant adult movies? Makes zero sense.

I mean watching your hubby or wife with another is just as much a fantasy as wanting to do your neighbor while shes passed out.

Agent 488 · 09-11-2009, 09:02 PM

Phallus Fondue · 09-11-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester

I have to agree with Robbie on this one. Just as Hollywood movies work on fiction and fantasy at times, why cant adult movies? Makes zero sense.

I mean watching your hubby or wife with another is just as much a fantasy as wanting to do your neighbor while shes passed out.

it is nothing new that adult can not get away with what hollywood does. not sure why people even keep bringing up this issue. it is visa's game and their rules. no laws say they even have to do business with us at all, so we are damn lucky to get away with what we do.

others also mentioned sleep fantasy is not rape fantasy just because if some girl woke them up with a bj or something that would never be rape. let us be real, it is rape. you just never would attempt to file charges for it unless of course you fell asleep at your house after a party and was woken up by a great bj you thought was from your girlfriend and when you finally cum to you realize it was that wierd guy nobody knows who invited.

fact stands no concent equals rape.
yes it is a fantasy and i personally would be fine with violent rape fantasy porn, but it is not my rules and no matter how much i bitch visa is not going to change for me.

cam_girls · 09-11-2009, 09:32 PM

such a small niche for Visa to bother with, my guess is they are testing the waters for some bigger niches

Half man, Half Amazing · 09-11-2009, 09:41 PM

Welcome to what the rest of the porn industry agreed to 30 years ago. Its just fantasy eh? Then dress up 18yr old girls like 12yr olds and have em say they are 12. After all, it's just a fantasy.

Ask Max Hardcore how that worked out, and while you're at it give my regards to Rob Black. The "it's just a fantasy" defense has never worked to defend porners.

DWB · 09-12-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-rate

Consent? what about the 2257?

someone can have the 2257 but not the consent of someone? Unless you pay the model for a regular shot and later on get in her house and shot her while she sleep lol

Ever hear of girls sleep signing contracts?

Adam X · 09-12-2009, 01:16 AM

talk about sleep and everyones yawning..

Anyone drop loot shooting a sleep site recently?

seeandsee · 09-12-2009, 01:26 AM

they need to open their eyes before fuck now :D

just a punk · 09-12-2009, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

This is the most necrophiliac cartoon ever. I always wondered how they got away with that one.

Ross · 09-12-2009, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Didn't PRDave just say HE was the source and linked back to this thread?

So am I not understanding that he basically just told us all he made it up and it's not true?

Because Dave said he is the source means he made it up? How about the fact he owns a sleep site that is now closed? Or he owns Pimproll, Massivedollars, Adultelite, Makebank and others and is in the know about all things concerning what is allowed and not allowed in our industry?

Hentaikid · 09-12-2009, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

This is the most necrophiliac cartoon ever. I always wondered how they got away with that one.

And in the original story the Prince fucks her too, I think she wakes up when she gives birth...

VISA isn't the law though, they're a private card association, not quite the same thing. Of course they might as well be.

Manowar · 09-12-2009, 06:04 AM

can't say its too surprising

RenegadeCash Mark · 09-12-2009, 06:31 AM

This is 100% fuckd up, Visa and MC's Brand damaging bulhsit.

You know they can actually close any site they deem "Brand damaging" Fucking cock suckers..

MaDalton · 09-12-2009, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Wonder if this will affect sleeping cam models lol

Robbie · 09-12-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Because Dave said he is the source means he made it up? How about the fact he owns a sleep site that is now closed? Or he owns Pimproll, Massivedollars, Adultelite, Makebank and others and is in the know about all things concerning what is allowed and not allowed in our industry?

I meant it APPEARED he was saying he made it up. When he said "I am the source" and linked back to this very thread. I thought he was fucking around at that point. And since I do not own a sleep site but I was one of the guys who promoted Dave's sites since he first got started I was wondering what was up too. I believe people were looking for some kind of link to a new Visa rule.

And I'm glad that Dave has magical powers to be "in the know about all things that are allowed and not allowed in our industry"

Or maybe as he said in a later post...he simply got in trouble with one of his sleeping sites? No magic? No super secret ability to know more than me? lol

It's no big deal. I was just saying that when some people asked for a link to the rule it was confusing what he said.

DonovanTrent · 09-12-2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

if visa is enforcing this, then people will move to a token type credit system where they spend $ at an account at one site and then use the funds to buy the membership on another site..

(i.e.: a popular video clip sales place does this)..

Names would be useful there.

I agree with Robbie that people should be able to shoot and watch what they want, but I can also see the side of avoiding unnecessary risks. I've always operated under the concept that it's worth making a little less money so you don't have a bullseye on your back. Yeah, it sucks that there are niches that are big targets for law enforcement, but it is what it is. Every business operates within the confines of SOME rules or regulations, and if you push the boundary, sometimes you get the stick.

I can totally understand the sleeping niche being looked down upon because of the APPEARANCE of lack of consent. Of course it's fantasy, of course they're paid actors, there's no argument there. But mutual consent is a big thing in our society, so I can see people getting fired up about that niche. I guarantee the moment someone comes out with a "coma porn" site, you're REALLY going to see shit fly, even though the production of the content is no different than a sleep site.

Finally, if this is something VISA's putting down, it isn't "fucking left wing" or "fucking right wing" it's "fucking VISA." Let's give fair credit where credit is due.

CamTraffic · 09-12-2009, 09:14 AM

sleep creepppppp

rayadp05 · 09-12-2009, 09:34 AM

Wow. That sucks for the guys that were planning on launchng a sleep paysite. Can you imagine shooting all of that content (and paying for it) but to only have Visa turn around to say that you cannot accept their credit card for your memberships? Talk about a pain in the ass.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 09-12-2009, 01:08 PM

Just for the record, my statement that "I always wondered how they got away with it" was in no way indicative of my opinion on whether or not people should be able to produce and sell "sleep" porn.

I also don't understand those bashing the government about this, or the calls of censorship.

If it is indeed true that Visa has pulled processing for this type of site, then what does that have to do with censorship or the government? Seems like it's Visa'a playground, Visa's rules...Not the gov't.

Major (Tom) · 09-12-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

simulated rape is simulated rape. i can tell anyone here to suck my dick... me waking up 3 days later with one of you homos trying, doesn't make it a consensual act.

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried. And this is available right on cable. Simulated rape is simulated rape be it in hollywood or elsewhere. Why does hollywood always get a free pass? And this was graphic.
But my personal view is that these sleep sites clearly do a good job of making it seem innocuous. I don't see how it should be a problem. Kind of silly. Especially being that they are obviously fake.
I think we should be more concerned with sleeper cells than sleep sites. imo.

duke

Dirty Dane · 09-12-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Welcome to what the rest of the porn industry agreed to 30 years ago. Its just fantasy eh? Then dress up 18yr old girls like 12yr olds and have em say they are 12. After all, it's just a fantasy.

Ask Max Hardcore how that worked out, and while you're at it give my regards to Rob Black. The "it's just a fantasy" defense has never worked to defend porners.

Law is not the same as policy

beemk · 09-12-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

One of my favorite things is being woke up by my wife with a blowjob. I'm sure I am not the only one whose 'thing' is similar.

It doesn't always have to be about 'rape' or consent. In fact nothing about that does anything for me, quite the contrary, but again, I wish I could get woken up like that more often. haha

Sorry for the TMI.

werent you the guy telling me that you didnt have a wife but you have like 4 dogs?

and heres a quote from last week:

jdoughs ‎(1:43 PM):
ill be back in a little bit i need to go get a few cases of peanut butter from costco.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 09-12-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried.

This is why I quit watching scary movies. It's like your movie isn't "cool" these days unless you have the most horrific rape scene ever.

Robbie · 09-12-2009, 03:57 PM

If PR Dave comes back to this thread:
Will you be sending out an email to us affiliates with an announcement so we know which links/galleries to pull down that pertain to your sleeping site that is out of business?

marketsmart · 09-12-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

If PR Dave comes back to this thread:
Will you be sending out an email to us affiliates with an announcement so we know which links/galleries to pull down that pertain to your sleeping site that is out of business?

he said he closed that site a long time ago....

Fob · 09-12-2009, 04:13 PM

they aren't sleeping...they are just playing deadfish

DonovanTrent · 09-12-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried. And this is available right on cable. Simulated rape is simulated rape be it in hollywood or elsewhere. Why does hollywood always get a free pass? And this was graphic.

What separates the simulated rape in a mainstream movie from simulated rape in porn is "prurient interest" -- the first is a movie that tells a story, the second is something meant to bring on a sexual response. It all comes down to obscenity laws, which VISA is (rightfully) trying to stay within. I'm no apologist for VISA, but they gotta keep their biz in line.

Argue the rights/wrongs/morality/etc. of it all you want, but that's just the way it is.

Robbie · 09-12-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

he said he closed that site a long time ago....

My bad. I see that now.

katharos · 09-12-2009, 04:33 PM

so its bad when i touch my mothers ass meanwhile she sleeps?

Agent 488 · 09-12-2009, 04:35 PM

if you are wearing a christmas reindeer mask yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katharos

so its bad when i touch my mothers ass meanwhile she sleeps?

Pleasurepays · 09-12-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried. And this is available right on cable. Simulated rape is simulated rape be it in hollywood or elsewhere. Why does hollywood always get a free pass? And this was graphic.
But my personal view is that these sleep sites clearly do a good job of making it seem innocuous. I don't see how it should be a problem. Kind of silly. Especially being that they are obviously fake.
I think we should be more concerned with sleeper cells than sleep sites. imo.

duke

First... i meant that the law is the law. Depictions of simulated rape are illegal. Fucking a sleeping chick is exactly that... regardless of everyones idiotic arguments and semantics... (not yours) you can't consent during the act if you are not conscious to consent.

A Hollywood film is treated as an artistic endeavor and porn is treated as porn catering to "prurient interests"... i'm sure if hollywood was suddenly flooded with works depicting underage sex, bestiality and rape, torture and mutilation (in a sexual context) and so on, we'd most certainly see some new laws on the books.

Billionaire · 09-12-2009, 05:37 PM

We also do not consent on what the laws are.

snaker · 09-12-2009, 05:40 PM

ccbill dropped these sites a long time ago, most programs who get away with these sites have gotten merchant acct. This thread is useless without a source though

Robbie · 09-12-2009, 05:53 PM

Well if it's of any consequence... I just got an affiliate email full of "Sleep Creep" galleries from Porn Pros/Fuck You Cash just like this one:
http://www.sleepcreep.com/galleries/...o5NDoxMg,0,0,0,

I run galleries for this site and many others and have for a long time. So I guess it ain't quite dead yet.

09-12-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Doesn't matter if the site is loaded with consenting popular pornstars, VISA says no more

And that's what a lot of people in this thread don't understand... Sad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phallus Fondue

it is nothing new that adult can not get away with what hollywood does. not sure why people even keep bringing up this issue. it is visa's game and their rules. no laws say they even have to do business with us at all, so we are damn lucky to get away with what we do.

others also mentioned sleep fantasy is not rape fantasy just because if some girl woke them up with a bj or something that would never be rape. let us be real, it is rape. you just never would attempt to file charges for it unless of course you fell asleep at your house after a party and was woken up by a great bj you thought was from your girlfriend and when you finally cum to you realize it was that wierd guy nobody knows who invited.

fact stands no concent equals rape.
yes it is a fantasy and i personally would be fine with violent rape fantasy porn, but it is not my rules and no matter how much i bitch visa is not going to change for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Welcome to what the rest of the porn industry agreed to 30 years ago. Its just fantasy eh? Then dress up 18yr old girls like 12yr olds and have em say they are 12. After all, it's just a fantasy.

Ask Max Hardcore how that worked out, and while you're at it give my regards to Rob Black. The "it's just a fantasy" defense has never worked to defend porners.

Thank god.. To many people say "it's just fantasy!". Yeah because any ole Joe just decides "fuck yeah, I got a hardon watching a bitch being raped!" and doesn't think "I'm gonna see if I can attempt to fuck Jenny from the block while she sleeps!".

You're being an enabler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried. And this is available right on cable. Simulated rape is simulated rape be it in hollywood or elsewhere. Why does hollywood always get a free pass? And this was graphic.
But my personal view is that these sleep sites clearly do a good job of making it seem innocuous. I don't see how it should be a problem. Kind of silly. Especially being that they are obviously fake.
I think we should be more concerned with sleeper cells than sleep sites. imo.

duke

Like stated many times before, not to mention, Visa can't really pull their merchant accounts for Hollywood because their was a rape in a movie.. I'm pretty sure EVERY single company that accepts credit cards and sells movies would be VERY pissed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

This is why I quit watching scary movies. It's like your movie isn't "cool" these days unless you have the most horrific rape scene ever.

The Last House on the Left was the first movie in the last few years I seen, or at least remember, that had a rape scene... Maybe I'm watching the wrong horror films?

Blazing · 09-12-2009, 07:33 PM

Very unfortunate for a few programs if this is true...

gornyhuy · 09-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

fan⋅ta⋅sy
1. imagination, esp. when extravagant and unrestrained.
2. the forming of mental images, esp. wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing.
3. a mental image, esp. when unreal or fantastic; vision: a nightmare fantasy.
4. Psychology. an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream.
5. a hallucination.

Exactly.
Fucking ridiculous.

Naughty-Pages · 09-13-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien

Fucking left wing retards trust me. I just can't stand them anymore. The older i get, the more pissed i get hehehehehehehe
The "left wing" is getting stronger and stronger. Hell in a few years i wonder if the earth won't be an entire "left-wing-communist-planet". Or like 1984 by George Orwell (movie) !
(oh no China here i come)

)

I think you have your right and left mixed up.. Republicans and the Christian Right typically are anti-pornography.

The Left: For Democrats look at the column here on the right side (Shows their Political position: Center-left)

The Right: For Republicans look at the column here on the right side (Shows their Political position: Center-right) and a good portion of Republicans are "Christian Right" (the right consists of prominent racist homophobic whackjobs like Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Glen Beck, Bill O'Reilly, etc..)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent

Names would be useful there.

Didn't want to post more info in the event this thread is true LOL...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent

Finally, if this is something VISA's putting down, it isn't "fucking left wing" or "fucking right wing" it's "fucking VISA." Let's give fair credit where credit is due.

OK.. credit where credit is due..

"Right Wing religious republican nutjobs work at Visa"

MediaGuy · 09-13-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

ouch...that has gotta suck...what is your source on this?

Uh, yeah... who what where when was this "reported"!

I was just gonna start promoting that, too...

:D

NaughtyRob · 09-13-2009, 09:13 AM

I watched in amazement too, the scene showed the guy fucking her from behind in many different angles, it was way longer than needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

About a month ago, I flipped on "On Demand" and watched last house on the left. There was a BRUTAL simulated rape scene with a minor none the less. I sat there, sick to my stomach, and my gf actually cried. And this is available right on cable. Simulated rape is simulated rape be it in hollywood or elsewhere. Why does hollywood always get a free pass? And this was graphic.
But my personal view is that these sleep sites clearly do a good job of making it seem innocuous. I don't see how it should be a problem. Kind of silly. Especially being that they are obviously fake.
I think we should be more concerned with sleeper cells than sleep sites. imo.

duke

_Lush_ · 09-13-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Wonder if this will affect sleeping cam models lol

Robbie · 09-13-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lushy

nikki99 · 09-13-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I always find a couple webcam models asleep on the job. Pull their processing!
WG

Phallus Fondue · 09-13-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

This is why I quit watching scary movies. It's like your movie isn't "cool" these days unless you have the most horrific rape scene ever.

to be fair it was a remake of a much older movie and the entire story is based on the rape scene. it was also toned down a great deal from the original. the original was much more graphic and the only movie to come close would be i spit on your grave.
also should keep in mind for point of this discussion, the first time last house was released it was banned in the us and other places, then banned again in 84 after vcr's has been about and so had the film. look up video recordings act of 1984.

now i am very damn curious what current horror movies have horrific rape scenes in them besides the remake of this one.

09-11-2009, 07:11 PM	#53
born2blog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,801	thank goodness I've never promoted this niche!! __________________ Juicy Ads - Buy & Sell Quality Traffic!!

09-11-2009, 08:29 PM	#55
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	My "sleeping" stuff sells well on clips4sale, I recommend those that have sleeping stuff put it on vod and clip sites. __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups

09-11-2009, 08:55 PM	#57
NY Jester Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York State Posts: 1,347	I have to agree with Robbie on this one. Just as Hollywood movies work on fiction and fantasy at times, why cant adult movies? Makes zero sense. I mean watching your hubby or wife with another is just as much a fantasy as wanting to do your neighbor while shes passed out. __________________ Jester X Web Services ICQ: 147 079 406 MadCatLinks.com Last edited by NY Jester; 09-11-2009 at 08:56 PM..

09-12-2009, 01:16 AM	#63
Adam X Now Giving 1 Fuck Daily Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,493	talk about sleep and everyones yawning.. Anyone drop loot shooting a sleep site recently? __________________ Cronfund - Buy CRON now and earn 4% plus coin value. The best of DEFI!

09-12-2009, 01:26 AM	#64
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	they need to open their eyes before fuck now :D __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

09-11-2009, 07:06 PM	#51
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	there goes Christmas

09-11-2009, 07:07 PM	#52
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	51 kootos .

09-11-2009, 09:02 PM	#58
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511

09-11-2009, 09:32 PM	#60
cam_girls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,968	such a small niche for Visa to bother with, my guess is they are testing the waters for some bigger niches

09-11-2009, 09:41 PM	#61
Half man, Half Amazing Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital Wasteland, DC Posts: 372	Welcome to what the rest of the porn industry agreed to 30 years ago. Its just fantasy eh? Then dress up 18yr old girls like 12yr olds and have em say they are 12. After all, it's just a fantasy. Ask Max Hardcore how that worked out, and while you're at it give my regards to Rob Black. The "it's just a fantasy" defense has never worked to defend porners.

09-12-2009, 06:04 AM	#68
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	can't say its too surprising

09-12-2009, 06:31 AM	#69
RenegadeCash Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,002	This is 100% fuckd up, Visa and MC's Brand damaging bulhsit. You know they can actually close any site they deem "Brand damaging" Fucking cock suckers.. __________________ Make Real Money With Your Traffic! Promote Unsaturated High Converting Micro Niche Sites Pissing, Diapers, Teen, Amateur, Thai & More

09-12-2009, 09:14 AM	#73
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,535	sleep creepppppp __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

09-12-2009, 09:34 AM	#74
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,187	Wow. That sucks for the guys that were planning on launchng a sleep paysite. Can you imagine shooting all of that content (and paying for it) but to only have Visa turn around to say that you cannot accept their credit card for your memberships? Talk about a pain in the ass. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program

09-12-2009, 01:08 PM	#75
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	Just for the record, my statement that "I always wondered how they got away with it" was in no way indicative of my opinion on whether or not people should be able to produce and sell "sleep" porn. I also don't understand those bashing the government about this, or the calls of censorship. If it is indeed true that Visa has pulled processing for this type of site, then what does that have to do with censorship or the government? Seems like it's Visa'a playground, Visa's rules...Not the gov't. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

09-12-2009, 03:57 PM	#80
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	If PR Dave comes back to this thread: Will you be sending out an email to us affiliates with an announcement so we know which links/galleries to pull down that pertain to your sleeping site that is out of business? __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-12-2009, 04:13 PM	#82
Fob Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 520	they aren't sleeping...they are just playing deadfish __________________ Asian Camgirls \| Filipina Cam Sponsor \| Jap Cam Sponsor \| Asian Cam Sponsor

09-12-2009, 04:33 PM	#85
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	so its bad when i touch my mothers ass meanwhile she sleeps?

09-12-2009, 05:37 PM	#88
Billionaire So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125	We also do not consent on what the laws are.

09-12-2009, 05:40 PM	#89
snaker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,281	ccbill dropped these sites a long time ago, most programs who get away with these sites have gotten merchant acct. This thread is useless without a source though __________________ My Best Sponsors: Naughty Revenue \| Get Score Cash \| Thick Cash

09-12-2009, 05:53 PM	#90
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	Well if it's of any consequence... I just got an affiliate email full of "Sleep Creep" galleries from Porn Pros/Fuck You Cash just like this one: http://www.sleepcreep.com/galleries/...o5NDoxMg,0,0,0, I run galleries for this site and many others and have for a long time. So I guess it ain't quite dead yet. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-12-2009, 07:33 PM	#92
Blazing Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 1,665	Very unfortunate for a few programs if this is true... __________________ [email protected] ICQ 7703879