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Old 09-12-2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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9/12 Protest Photos

The good ol' boys....

http://picasaweb.google.com/AUAndi/912Protest#

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4244831...7622224474669/

So, why are there some many white people???
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:24 PM   #2
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Keeping it real...

http://picasaweb.google.com/AUAndi/9...68918697969874
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:28 PM   #3
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:33 PM   #4
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The good ol' boys....
So, why are there some many white people???
Dunno....Why do you suppose that is?
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pop quiz. name the 3rd world countries.



this one i just find funny.



now i see why he wants us healthy and plump, he has plans on baking us.
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Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?
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And who's "indoctrinating the children"?



Classy sign, too. I hate when people have their kids hold signs for ANYTHING whether I agree with it or not. Let the kids be kids and hold the fuckin' sign yourself.

And I'm surprised it took me this long to see a sign with Terri Schiavo on it.



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I wish everyone who's hung up on the "czars" crap would read their history. The term has been used for Presidential appointments since the Nixon era.
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wow, those pics are great.. so going to make some blog posts out of these.
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Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?
Czar = Russia = them damn commies. Don't you know that?

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i am not a democrat, i only support obama because he is our current president and i often disagree with shit he does. did the same with bush, clinton, bush.
this shit is just plain whacked though and i hate to think it but i doubt we would be seeing the same shit if he was white. sure there would still be protests but they would be much different.
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Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?
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Czar = Russia = them damn commies. Don't you know that?

Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5
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i really hope you are being sarcastic here.

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Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5
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Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5

but there were Czars before Obama, in republican admins, so I dont get what the big shitstink is about
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I wish everyone who's hung up on the "czars" crap would read their history. The term has been used for Presidential appointments since the Nixon era.
I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.
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Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5
Do you not know recent history? Here, let me help you out. From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_czar

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The 'czar' title was first used to refer to an appointed government official in a Time Magazine article in December 1973, referring to William E. Simon's appointment as the head of the Federal Energy Administration.
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Nixon and Ford administrations

* Jerome Jaffe, head of the Special Office for Drug Abuse Prevention
* Myles Ambrose, head of the Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement (ODALE)
* Dr. Robert Dupont, Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse and head of the Narcotics Treatment Administration

Carter administration

* Peter Bourne, Director of the National Drug Control Policy
* Mathea Falco, Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics

Reagan administration

* Carlton Turner PhD, ScD, Director of the Drug Abuse Policy Office
* D. Ian McDonald, MD. Deputy Assistant to the President, Drug Abuse Policy Office

Since 1988

* The Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy
And actually, looking further, the "czar" term has been applied by the media and others to high-level appointment positions since FDR's administration. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
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I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.
Oh, fully aware of that. But focusing any protest at all on the "czar" terminology and it's connection with Socialism (of which there is no connection) is just a waste of energy. Protest all you want, but at least direct it properly.
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I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.
so whats the difference in having 1 or 5. A Czar, is a czar, so if u are against this whole Czar idea, it doenst matter how many u have, either 1, 10 or 15 u should be against it. So again, where was this anger against these czar appointees under Republican admins.
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Do you not know recent history? Here, let me help you out. From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_czar





And actually, looking further, the "czar" term has been applied by the media and others to high-level appointment positions since FDR's administration. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
So based on your previous statement they were all commies?
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So based on your previous statement they were all commies?
OK, so either you're just trolling or you have no concept of sarcasm.

Edit: I'll help... "them damn commies" = sarcasm
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nice pictures,maybe some pic from nude protest?
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u see the white trash in those pics? last thing i wanna see is some redneck naked
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that protest nude is a terrible idea.

just a bunch of dumpy wal-mart greeters and old ladies holding signs that say "don't pull the plug on me" who ironically probably will end up getting the plug pulled on them by their insurance companies.
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so whats the difference in having 1 or 5. A Czar, is a czar, so if u are against this whole Czar idea, it doenst matter how many u have, either 1, 10 or 15 u should be against it. So again, where was this anger against these czar appointees under Republican admins.
Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.
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Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.
So, whats your point?
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Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.
so what are u against, the idea of a czar all together or the fact he has so many
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So, whats your point?
If you can't follow along other people's conversations just STFU and don't worry about it.
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Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.
And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees. The number is meaningless, people are protesting it not because of the number of appointees, they've latched onto/been whipped into a frenzy about the "czar" title, thinking it's connected with Socialism. Otherwise, most probably wouldn't be focusing on it, they'd be focusing on an issue that's more pertinent.
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so what are u against, the idea of a czar all together or the fact he has so many
ummm . . . when did this become about me?
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Didnt Bush have like 20+ Czars?
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The problem with the Czars is they aren't held accountable to Congress. It's is true that some of them hold other positions where they are but in those particular roles, no accountability. Only answer to the President.
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And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees.
I knew one of you would jump up with that stat . . . . completely ignoring the fact that Bush was President for 8 years vs Obama with his 8 months.

You never fail to let me down.
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And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees. The number is meaningless, people are protesting it not because of the number of appointees, they've latched onto/been whipped into a frenzy about the "czar" title, thinking it's connected with Socialism. Otherwise, most probably wouldn't be focusing on it, they'd be focusing on an issue that's more pertinent.
didnt he appoint Bolton to the UN without confirmation also?
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ummm . . . when did this become about me?
so if u dont care why are u so worked up about this Czar thing
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Well...BadDog...are you all worked up? Placate he/she.
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I knew one of you would jump up with that stat . . . . completely ignoring the fact that Bush was President for 8 years vs Obama with his 8 months.

You never fail to let me down.
Who's "you"?

For the record, I think there are far more "czars" than necessary in this administration and prior. So don't put me into a slot so quickly.

You are either missing my point or deliberately obfuscating it. My point is, why are there people protesting "czars" when they could be protesting healthcare? If they weren't called "czars," I doubt we'd see people holding up signs saying "too many Presidential appointments!!!!"

They are protesting "czars" not because of the number of Presidential appointments, but because they are incorrectly connecting the "czar" title with Socialism/Communism, and many media pundits are taking advantage of that misunderstanding.

I don't think you could argue too much with that, whatever political flavor you happen to prefer.
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didnt he appoint Bolton to the UN without confirmation also?
Yes, because a few democrats in the Senate were filibustering to prevent the vote for 5 months. So Bush said fuck it.
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Yes, he did, but he's not the only President to do something like that. The mechanism exists and he used it. That kind of stuff happens on all sides.
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Yes, because a few democrats in the Senate were filibustering to prevent the vote for 5 months. So Bush said fuck it.
Yes...and did it when the Senate was out of session...and was a completely legal act on his part.
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Who's "you"?
Oh, I don't know, I guess anyone who happened to think it was anywhere close to an applicable response.

And how do I know why they are using the "c" word? Maybe they are pissed off by the growth in government, that is costing even more money that they don't have to spare. Maybe they don't like that Obama isn't very pc about the friends he has had in the past [and present].

Who knows, there are probably dozens of reasons different individuals are there. Ask them.
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Oh, I don't know, I guess anyone who happened to think it was anywhere close to an applicable response.

And how do I know why they are using the "c" word? Maybe they are pissed off by the growth in government, that is costing even more money that they don't have to spare. Maybe they don't like that Obama isn't very pc about the friends he has had in the past [and present].

Who knows, there are probably dozens of reasons different individuals are there. Ask them.
You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.
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Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic. As is the spelling for most of these hillbillies.
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Hey guys....leave BadDog alone....

He is an old skooler...respect your elders. I am sure he has seen shit through out his life that has formed his opinions and views.

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Old 09-12-2009, 07:04 PM   #46
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Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic.
Thank alex jones for those.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:08 PM   #47
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You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.
Just let BadDog be....

As a marketer, I'm interested in the manipulation of people. There must a be psychological profile that all these people have in common. I would like to see some actual peered reviewed papers on this type of profile.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:09 PM   #48
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You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.
To say Bush had 35 in 8 years and compare that with 31 in 8 months is not relevant.

I believe I did provide some reasons as to why those that are concentrating on the number of czars. 31 confidants that collect a check and have no one to answer to.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:09 PM   #49
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Thank alex jones for those.
Alex Jones didn't start the Joker ordeal. He just ran a contest on them.

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Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic. .
Bush was a Joker as well.

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Old 09-12-2009, 07:18 PM   #50
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To say Bush had 35 in 8 years and compare that with 31 in 8 months is not relevant.

I believe I did provide some reasons as to why those that are concentrating on the number of czars. 31 confidants that collect a check and have no one to answer to.
You have one channel you operate on, don't you? Here, let me try it again, so your hearing aid can pick it up:

I WAS NOT ARGUING THE POLITICS OF IT.

I WAS COMMENTING ON HOW THE WORD "CZAR" HAS BEEN KEYED ON IN THE EVOLUTION OF THIS PROTEST.

I FIND HOW IT'S BEEN USED INTERESTING FROM A PSYCHOLOGICAL STANDPOINT.


Geez, man. Lighten up for a sec, I'm IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU on the "too many czars" and "poor choice of people" issues. You didn't catch that when I said it earlier, did you?
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