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will76 · 09-22-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil-Dan

There is absolutely no bad karma between you and me, but I do know that there has been some between you and Jean-Francois. So your appearance in this thread involving my bromance with Jean-Francois has certainly caught me off guard.

LMAO, a 2 year can see what is going on here with this thread...

are you really caught off guard? shocked to see him post in this thread even when you admit you knew there was bad blood between them? Him seeing other people rave about how top notch the guy is that he feels screwed him, the same guy he has made several posts about over the last couple months, that you really are shocked he wouldn't appear in this thread....

will76 · 09-22-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I'm happy for you Dan. And I have nothing against you.

Having gone though hell the last 2 years myself loosing everything I own and this person is one of the ones responsible honestly I feel JEALOUS - honestly JEALOUS, as the person who I THOUGHT was my friend abandoned me and then only showed up once ON MY DIME at HIS request to MILK me more and make it worse for me. It hurts me to know he was helping you and considered me just a fucking MARK to use and abuse. (he told me this too)

Sometimes I'm a small man. I have trouble forgiving someone who I was VERY good to that tells me no one will ever hang out with me unless I'm paying them. That line alone told me everything I needed to know about that piece of GARBAGE. That only took from me and never really gave anything back. That lied to my friends behind my back about me to hurt my business to further his greed and his own self righteousness. That I offered 2X what he put in to make the deal right after all that too and was spat on for offering it. I was pushed too far and I need to get past it, but it's VERY hard. I will in time, but it takes time. I wish I was a better man and could do it faster. I'm sorry to burst your happy bubble here. I have NO LOVE for that piece of human garbage. Seeing posts about how great he is sickens me. It's very hard to stay quiet with what he did to me. Yet I don't really ever do it off here. GFY has always been a place where I vent and hold nothing back. I am what I am.

That being said, do not judge someone by dealings you have nothing to do with. Judge them solely by your own experiences with them and if they are positive make your own conclusions. We're all entitled to our own opinions and in the end they are just that, opinions.

If he was here i would spit in his face.

looks like i was right again lol

will76 · 09-22-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil-Dan

i was actually thinking of your earlier post, and this is the best thought I came up with

if someone fucks me over, I usually was stupid enough to let it happen

two people in my internet career fucked me over so hard thus far, and in both cases I have continued to speak to both of them and even had meals and drinks with them

they were both business partners and work mates, and yeah it hurt like hell when they fucked me

but you know what - life is short... i was stupid for letting them fuck me, and not once have I mentioned their names on a board

I was too stupid to not set things up from the get go so they couldnt fuck me over

i mean ... its only business ;)

Thats fucking retarded. Every time I hear someone say "its only business" which is usually followed by "its not personal" I think how fucking retarded that person is.

The most PERSONAL thing you can do to me is to fuck with my business aka INCOME. I can't believe people can be so fucking stupid to use that expression and make that comment often.

It's only business..... Joe fucked me out of 100K but we still are friends, it was only business... fuck that. Mess with my income, you mess with my family, livilyhood, etc... you can't get more personal than that.

And the life is short bullshit.... actually it isn't most people live to be in their 70s + its pretty fucking long and people are a dime a dozen. If you so hard up for friends that you need to be nice to the ones that fucked you over then you have serious problems. Good friends are hard to find, but good friends are also the ones that don't fuck you over, business or not.

After reading most of this bullshit i kinda feel sorry for sleazy and what you guys, in particular you Dan did to him in this thread.

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 12:27 AM

Thank you Guys

Life's about learning about who your real friends are and who's just there to use and mooch.

WWC · 09-23-2009, 12:40 AM

I cant believe this long nice thread with no pics of proof? wow....

ronin · 09-23-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

Thank you Guys

Life's about learning about who your real friends are and who's just there to use and mooch.

nope, life is about living.

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ronin

nope, life is about living.

good point

Rui · 09-23-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

One of the best indicators of the quality of a person is watching how they treat people who they have no vested interest in. It's easy to get led astray by someone who wants to be your friend and wants you to see certain things, but as you get to know someone watch closely at how they treat the people they don't need to suck up to, or hit on. How they treat those people is a clear indicator of who you are dealing with.

You just screwed yourself with this one then...

Or what you just said doesn't apply to yourself but only to others?

Jman · 09-23-2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

LMAO, a 2 year can see what is going on here with this thread...

are you really caught off guard? shocked to see him post in this thread even when you admit you knew there was bad blood between them? Him seeing other people rave about how top notch the guy is that he feels screwed him, the same guy he has made several posts about over the last couple months, that you really are shocked he wouldn't appear in this thread....

LMAO isn't a true GFY thread until a conspiracy theorist joins in

will76 · 09-23-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

LMAO isn't a true GFY thread until a conspiracy theorist joins in

The picture that is no longer visable was a " NIGGA PLEASE ".

Come on, a conspiracy.... (insert nigga please picture again).

It was SO FUCKING OBVIOUS why this thread was made. WARNING!!! WARNING!!!! JMAN!!!

Everyone knows Scott has been bashing you for weeks, but wont say your name. This thread gets everyone's attention thinking that it is related to the Scott / Jman drama.

Dan blows you, other people come in blow you. Do you really think Scott is going to be able to hold it back. He has hardly been able to hold it back till now with out people saying how great you are, for him to hear all of this.... then to see the way Dan played and toyed with him.... goated him into breaking down and going off on you.... which was conveniently after 10 or so people said you were great... just makes Scott look all the mre stupid... You knew he was going to crack sooner or later, so you got him to do it in a thread where people are praising you.... lol

Don't try to play it off. this was orchestrated and played out perfect, take credit for a job well done. I give Dan a 10+ for pulling this off.

Scott, you fell for it hook line sinker....

JMan, you know I am not a fan of Scott and I don't know either of you, but I think it is so obvious what the intention of this thread was...

»Rob Content« · 09-23-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

The picture that is no longer visable was a " NIGGA PLEASE ".

Come on, a conspiracy.... (insert nigga please picture again).

It was SO FUCKING OBVIOUS why this thread was made. WARNING!!! WARNING!!!! JMAN!!!

Everyone knows Scott has been bashing you for weeks, but wont say your name. This thread gets everyone's attention thinking that it is related to the Scott / Jman drama.

Dan blows you, other people come in blow you. Do you really think Scott is going to be able to hold it back. He has hardly been able to hold it back till now with out people saying how great you are, for him to hear all of this.... then to see the way Dan played and toyed with him.... goated him into breaking down and going off on you.... which was conveniently after 10 or so people said you were great... just makes Scott look all the mre stupid... You knew he was going to crack sooner or later, so you got him to do it in a thread where people are praising you.... lol

Don't try to play it off. this was orchestrated and played out perfect, take credit for a job well done. I give Dan a 10+ for pulling this off.

Scott, you fell for it hook line sinker....

JMan, you know I am not a fan of Scott and I don't know either of you, but I think it is so obvious what the intention of this thread was...

Exactly, it's a joke really. Two people telling Scott to grow up while they high 5 each other like a couple of jugheads on the play ground.

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

You just screwed yourself with this one then...

Or what you just said doesn't apply to yourself but only to others?

well if your perception of me is that I treat people like shit then so be it.

I am what I am and I don't hide or deny who I am.

»Rob Content« · 09-23-2009, 02:25 PM

I think Scott was served up a piece of humble pie and is starting to understand that you have a lot more friends when on top, but when you come back down it's like roaches when the lights turn on.

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

The picture that is no longer visable was a " NIGGA PLEASE ".

Come on, a conspiracy.... (insert nigga please picture again).

It was SO FUCKING OBVIOUS why this thread was made. WARNING!!! WARNING!!!! JMAN!!!

Everyone knows Scott has been bashing you for weeks, but wont say your name. This thread gets everyone's attention thinking that it is related to the Scott / Jman drama.

Dan blows you, other people come in blow you. Do you really think Scott is going to be able to hold it back. He has hardly been able to hold it back till now with out people saying how great you are, for him to hear all of this.... then to see the way Dan played and toyed with him.... goated him into breaking down and going off on you.... which was conveniently after 10 or so people said you were great... just makes Scott look all the mre stupid... You knew he was going to crack sooner or later, so you got him to do it in a thread where people are praising you.... lol

Don't try to play it off. this was orchestrated and played out perfect, take credit for a job well done. I give Dan a 10+ for pulling this off.

Scott, you fell for it hook line sinker....

JMan, you know I am not a fan of Scott and I don't know either of you, but I think it is so obvious what the intention of this thread was...

The gig is up - Jman now knows you're on my payroll

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by »Rob Content«

I think Scott was served up a piece of humble pie and is starting to understand that you have a lot more friends when on top, but when you come back down it's like roaches when the lights turn on.

Actually I've always known that you have more friends when on top then below.

The humble pie I got was when someone who I THOUGHT was a real friend told me he was only using me for money and status. That's the one that hurt me more than anything else. I should have scene the warning signs - they were there. I choose to ignore them and I got hurt for it.

There are a LOT of really good people in this business. REALLY good.

The difference between me and many out there is I'm HAPPY, happy as punch to be in this business for any amount of income that allows me and the people I work with to comfortably survive. I genuinely LIKE porn and most of the people in it. I don't look down on porn stars, sluts and swingers. I see them as equals and not as people to USE but as people to work with to make money. I've never scene myself as someone who looked down on this business or the people in it, and I should have scene the warning signs with Jman from the amount of times he'd tell he how much he hated porn or the people in it and how he doesn't work in porn even though all the money he gets paid comes indirectly from porn - he's always been very adamant about that. He's told me many times that porn and the people in it exist for him to take advantage of. You can see that in his posts. I created Sleazydream not just to make money but to have the site that I wanted to exist be in existence. It was different than anything else in it's time. I'm now working on something else that I honestly believe SHOULD exist, yes i think it'll do amazing, but even if it doesn't i don't care so long as I can make a decent living and be HAPPY doing it and adding something to the world that i feel is a benefit and will leave my mark on it in my own fucked up little way.

Am I an idiot? - yes

Did I know I fell into a trap? - Yes - I knew exactly why this thread came up. It was clear to me from the first post it was against things I had said before on here. I just decided to jump in anyway - I've always been a heads first kind of guy and I'd like to think I can take punches as well as give em - even if I do say outch a lot.

Am I fucked up? - probally.

Can I be emotional? - yes - i'm human and not devoid of emotion.

Will I get over this? - YES. just takes some time as I got emotionally hurt by someone I trusted

Will I trust again - probably not Jman ( i may forgive him but my trust with him is gone ) but I will trust others and I will get burned again. Why do it again, cause there are soo many GOOD experiences that the bad ones are worth dealing with to experience the good ones.

Pipecrew · 09-23-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

Actually I've always known that you have more friends when on top then below.

The humble pie I got was when someone who I THOUGHT was a real friend told me he was only using me for money and status. That's the one that hurt me more than anything else. I should have scene the warning signs - they were there. I choose to ignore them and I got hurt for it.

There are a LOT of really good people in this business. REALLY good.

The difference between me and many out there is I'm HAPPY, happy as punch to be in this business for any amount of income that allows me and the people I work with to comfortably survive. I genuinely LIKE porn and most of the people in it. I don't look down on porn stars, sluts and swingers. I see them as equals and not as people to USE but as people to work with to make money. I've never scene myself as someone who looked down on this business or the people in it, and I should have scene the warning signs with Jman from the amount of times he'd tell he how much he hated porn or the people in it and how he doesn't work in porn even though all the money he gets paid comes indirectly from porn - he's always been very adamant about that. He's told me many times that porn and the people in it exist for him to take advantage of. You can see that in his posts. I created Sleazydream not just to make money but to have the site that I wanted to exist be in existence. It was different than anything else in it's time. I'm now working on something else that I honestly believe SHOULD exist, yes i think it'll do amazing, but even if it doesn't i don't care so long as I can make a decent living and be HAPPY doing it and adding something to the world that i feel is a benefit and will leave my mark on it in my own fucked up little way.

Am I an idiot? - yes

Did I know I fell into a trap? - Yes - I knew exactly why this thread came up. It was clear to me from the first post it was against things I had said before on here. I just decided to jump in anyway - I've always been a heads first kind of guy and I'd like to think I can take punches as well as give em - even if I do say outch a lot.

Am I fucked up? - probally.

Can I be emotional? - yes - i'm human and not devoid of emotion.

Will I get over this? - YES. just takes some time as I got emotionally hurt by someone I trusted

Will I trust again - probably not Jman ( i may forgive him but my trust with him is gone ) but I will trust others and I will get burned again. Why do it again, cause there are soo many GOOD experiences that the bad ones are worth dealing with to experience the good ones.

Hey dude, I know you will bounce back and I am not just saying that. I legitimately think it. Just see this all as a character building experience. How many times has Donald trump been bankrupt just to get back to the top? Stay positive and push on through it.

SleazyDream · 09-23-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Hey dude, I know you will bounce back and I am not just saying that. I legitimately think it. Just see this all as a character building experience. How many times has Donald trump been bankrupt just to get back to the top? Stay positive and push on through it.

thank you.

I have no worries myself about that either to be honest.

I learned a lot.

will76 · 09-23-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

Actually I've always known that you have more friends when on top then below.

The humble pie I got was when someone who I THOUGHT was a real friend told me he was only using me for money and status. That's the one that hurt me more than anything else. I should have scene the warning signs - they were there. I choose to ignore them and I got hurt for it.

There are a LOT of really good people in this business. REALLY good.

The difference between me and many out there is I'm HAPPY, happy as punch to be in this business for any amount of income that allows me and the people I work with to comfortably survive. I genuinely LIKE porn and most of the people in it. I don't look down on porn stars, sluts and swingers. I see them as equals and not as people to USE but as people to work with to make money. I've never scene myself as someone who looked down on this business or the people in it, and I should have scene the warning signs with Jman from the amount of times he'd tell he how much he hated porn or the people in it and how he doesn't work in porn even though all the money he gets paid comes indirectly from porn - he's always been very adamant about that. He's told me many times that porn and the people in it exist for him to take advantage of. You can see that in his posts. I created Sleazydream not just to make money but to have the site that I wanted to exist be in existence. It was different than anything else in it's time. I'm now working on something else that I honestly believe SHOULD exist, yes i think it'll do amazing, but even if it doesn't i don't care so long as I can make a decent living and be HAPPY doing it and adding something to the world that i feel is a benefit and will leave my mark on it in my own fucked up little way.

Am I an idiot? - yes

Did I know I fell into a trap? - Yes - I knew exactly why this thread came up. It was clear to me from the first post it was against things I had said before on here. I just decided to jump in anyway - I've always been a heads first kind of guy and I'd like to think I can take punches as well as give em - even if I do say outch a lot.

Am I fucked up? - probally.

Can I be emotional? - yes - i'm human and not devoid of emotion.

Will I get over this? - YES. just takes some time as I got emotionally hurt by someone I trusted

Will I trust again - probably not Jman ( i may forgive him but my trust with him is gone ) but I will trust others and I will get burned again. Why do it again, cause there are soo many GOOD experiences that the bad ones are worth dealing with to experience the good ones.

Get over it? I wouldn't forgive and forget thats for sure. Just move on, no need to make up with the person or feel that you should. I would just write them off, let it go, chalk it up and move on. Find new friends and try to pick them better next time.

The thing I didn't like about you was your self enflated ego. The "if I don't know you, then you must be a nobody" attitude. The " i fly first class to all the industry shows, own this own this, blah blah I am better than you" etc... bullshit.

Sounds like you are now one of those nobodies (according to your logic a couple years ago) that you called idiots, noobs, etc...

I have no hard feelings against you, so many people on here did a lot worst things like scam people, steal from them, stolen content, spyware, etc etc.... You seem honest, sincere and now a little more humble.

Just learn from your mistakes and let it go with jman and move on, rehashing the story every couple days, explaining how you got burnt, you wasting too much energy and you never going to push ahead if you can't let that shit go. I am not saying to forgive, i wouldn't but I would just put it out of my mind, write it up as a loss, a learning experience and worry about making money and moving forward and not think about it any more. Muchless waste time explaining myself over and over about it to others.

tehHinjew · 09-23-2009, 08:02 PM

hes a good guy, he bought me a few lapdances a few years ago

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