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punkpred · 09-27-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Has this been posted here yet?

candyflip · 09-27-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Excellent stuff CandyFlip

I have to give credit where credit is due.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE came up with that.

alias · 09-27-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

LOL at the irony of a fansubbed clip posted in GFY about the downfall of GFY by selling a TUBE skin.

Taking a scene from a movie and adding your own subtitles is called a "fansub"

fansubs are considered copyright infringement to movie studios. LOL

just sayin ;)

Stop making so much sense. It is also hosted on youTUBE, whatever.. .

Agent 488 · 09-27-2009, 08:47 AM

using a site tube to complain about tubes - only a moron like alienq would do that. it makes sense.

$5 submissions · 09-27-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

LOL at the irony of a fansubbed clip posted in GFY about the downfall of GFY by selling a TUBE skin.

Taking a scene from a movie and adding your own subtitles is called a "fansub"

fansubs are considered copyright infringement to movie studios. LOL

just sayin ;)

It could also be a PARODY. Parodies are exempt from copyright laws under the "fair use" exceptions.

09-27-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

using a site tube to complain about tubes - only a moron like alienq would do that. it makes sense.

YouTube is a LEGAL tube you moron. They take down all copyrighted content within minutes of it being uploaded, and any content up there that is copyrighted is uploaded by it's creators or people authorized to do it.

Learn the difference before you try to be mr morals.

Atticus · 09-27-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

YouTube is a LEGAL tube you moron. They take down all copyrighted content within minutes of it being uploaded, and any content up there that is copyrighted is uploaded by it's creators or people authorized to do it.

Learn the difference before you try to be mr morals.

So is Pornhub, Tube 8 etc. Enough with the illegal tube distinction. They comply with DMCA and how the law is currently set up, just like YouTube. You may not like the loophole but they are not illegal.

AlCapone · 09-27-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

So is Pornhub, Tube 8 etc. Enough with the illegal tube distinction. They comply with DMCA and how the law is currently set up, just like YouTube. You may not like the loophole but they are not illegal.

Copyright Infringement is illegal. Stolen content is illegal.

fusionx · 09-27-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

So is Pornhub, Tube 8 etc. Enough with the illegal tube distinction. They comply with DMCA and how the law is currently set up, just like YouTube. You may not like the loophole but they are not illegal.

DMCA is not the only law on the books. Check out the FTC and look up unfair trade and unfair competition.

Another thing - just because the DMCA requires you to submit a take-down request, you can still sue. Nothing in the DMCA says you can't.

borked · 09-27-2009, 02:18 PM

funny stuff - yup, downtime like that during a skin smells of downtime due to attack or something.

GFY runs on 100 servers??? funny shit! The fact that GFY times out and throws db errors at all says that redundancy does not exist. GFY is a a 1 server setup, plain and simple.

Atticus · 09-27-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlCapone

Copyright Infringement is illegal. Stolen content is illegal.

Yes, you're right. Nobody is arguing those points. Unfortunately the tubes you are referencing don't do those things. Users upload the content. Copyright holders send a DMCA. Tube site removes copyrighted material. Tube site is legal.

Whether or not the users actually upload the content or not is another discussion, but until someone can prove it's the site themselves doing it they comply with the law. So referring to them as illegal is completely false.

Kolargol · 09-27-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

YouTube is a LEGAL tube you moron. They take down all copyrighted content within minutes of it being uploaded, and any content up there that is copyrighted is uploaded by it's creators or people authorized to do it.

Learn the difference before you try to be mr morals.

not really - there are many videos we made that are uploaded by users on YouTube and it takes some time to remove them too.

AaliyahLove · 09-27-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Has this been posted here yet?

OMG candyflip, between this vid and ur avatar you have me laughing so fn hard rt now!

"Dean Capture's pics were so HOT!" "do you think Shap is mad?"

brand0n · 09-27-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove

OMG candyflip, between this vid and ur avatar you have me laughing so fn hard rt now!

"Dean Capture's pics were so HOT!" "do you think Shap is mad?"

wanna smoke some good weed, listen to some jams and make out?

lmk.

idiftl · 09-27-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You just burst my balloon.

you really seriously retarded. mods probably laugh at you at this thread

09-27-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

So is Pornhub, Tube 8 etc. Enough with the illegal tube distinction. They comply with DMCA and how the law is currently set up, just like YouTube. You may not like the loophole but they are not illegal.

Legal yes, until that loophole is plugged, no loophole can be plugged to make YouTube illegal. Google is to big of a company and has to many eyes watching them to do anything like that.

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

not really - there are many videos we made that are uploaded by users on YouTube and it takes some time to remove them too.

Small guys yes, it takes some time, but if you're NBC/ABC/CBS/Fox etc... It will be down faster than it was uploaded.

NYRangers · 09-27-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Your guys have been down almost a full day, and when it is up, 90% of the time it times out.

This is Karma my friends. I hope you are losing a shit load of money. In fact, I hope you lose, to the penny, every dollar that you took from the scum bags who are currently skinning the board. That would be justice.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same dirt bags who you are in bed with, are attacking your sites, just because they can.

Enjoy your day.

I really can't figure you out. A bunch of times when you post it makes sense. Then when I saw you starting to post about Epoch asking for model verification I figured it was just some sticking point. No logical sense, but some sticking point. You gave some front about protecting your "talent" but it was still a ridiculous sticking point in my eyes.

I figured what the fuck. I can never agree with anyone 100% of the time.

But you also jump on this Traffic Junky bash bandwagon. I'm not going to draw this out any longer because I am at Oktoberfest and drunk. But I have to make one point...

Please, please, please stop going on some legal or moral high ground about anything. What you do is illegal. So give it a rest. Seriously, it's a tired act.

bushwacker · 09-27-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by idiftl

you really seriously retarded. mods probably laugh at you at this thread

engrish?

Robbie · 09-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Goddamn that's funny!

AaliyahLove · 09-27-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

wanna smoke some good weed, listen to some jams and make out?

lmk.

umm.. I'm down for 2 out of 3?

brand0n · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

fine hold the jams

BaldBastard · 09-27-2009, 06:27 PM

When NationalNet moved data centers they warned me my sites could be down for upto 4 hours, ended up being about 15 minutes.....

I guess thats why NationalNet Rocks !!!!

Major (Tom) · 09-27-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

I really can't figure you out. A bunch of times when you post it makes sense. Then when I saw you starting to post about Epoch asking for model verification I figured it was just some sticking point. No logical sense, but some sticking point. You gave some front about protecting your "talent" but it was still a ridiculous sticking point in my eyes.

I figured what the fuck. I can never agree with anyone 100% of the time.

But you also jump on this Traffic Junky bash bandwagon. I'm not going to draw this out any longer because I am at Oktoberfest and drunk. But I have to make one point...

Please, please, please stop going on some legal or moral high ground about anything. What you do is illegal. So give it a rest. Seriously, it's a tired act.

What's illegal about what he does.. Nothing.
Duke

crockett · 09-27-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

I am blonde, old and dutch but heh they just moved servers. They sent out affiliate emails yesterday about it for Reality Cash as well

umm you don't send out affiliate letters "after" the site goes down claiming you were moving servers.. Think about it.. Not to mention if the server is being moved then why was the site up and down during the day for many people?

Sounds more like a DDOS attack if you ask me..

crockett · 09-27-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

I really can't figure you out. A bunch of times when you post it makes sense. Then when I saw you starting to post about Epoch asking for model verification I figured it was just some sticking point. No logical sense, but some sticking point. You gave some front about protecting your "talent" but it was still a ridiculous sticking point in my eyes.

I figured what the fuck. I can never agree with anyone 100% of the time.

But you also jump on this Traffic Junky bash bandwagon. I'm not going to draw this out any longer because I am at Oktoberfest and drunk. But I have to make one point...

Please, please, please stop going on some legal or moral high ground about anything. What you do is illegal. So give it a rest. Seriously, it's a tired act.

Wait.. it's a hate bandwagon, when people are speaking out in protest about a company whom sells traffic for sites that steal everyone's content? Do you not see the fucking skin on this board? Have you ever been to tube8 or pornhub? Ever had anything stolen from you?

lazycash · 09-27-2009, 10:23 PM

It is kind of ironic that the advertisers (tube skin) that happened to get stiffed because of all this downtime are the same ones who keep stiffing the content owners.

pornpf69 · 09-27-2009, 10:32 PM

at least someone with a sense of humor!!

Fletch XXX · 09-28-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

It could also be a PARODY. Parodies are exempt from copyright laws under the "fair use" exceptions.

While I understand your point and almost agree with you, fansubs are considered copyright infringement by every country adhering to the Berne Convention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_C...Artistic_Works

They are not considered parody because they are not original works, I do not want to argue this because its a legal discussion, but fansubs are removed from youtube and the internet everyday because of DMCAs/Cnds/whatever method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub

parody will not win the argument, as the studios who make movies get fansubs removed every single day

Not only does the US abide by the berne Convention , they made their own: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_C...on_Act_of_1988

ThumbLord · 09-28-2009, 08:05 AM

crockett, you could be right about the DDOS, so I was right about the blonde part in my thread.

NYRangers · 09-28-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

What's illegal about what he does.. Nothing.
Duke

Seriously? Come on, please tell me you are just poking me with a stick like a sleeping alligator.

What's illegal about what he does? Change your answer from nothing to everything.

Fuck,..........Just fuck.. Seriously, this can't be a regular answer.

NYRangers · 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Wait.. it's a hate bandwagon, when people are speaking out in protest about a company whom sells traffic for sites that steal everyone's content? Do you not see the fucking skin on this board? Have you ever been to tube8 or pornhub? Ever had anything stolen from you?

No, no, no. What bothers me is when someone who rides the same moral low ground as the same group he/she is slamming expects to be rallied on by a bunch of clueless sheep.

Have I ever had anything stolen from me in terms of our adult business? Despite what everyone wants to think the answer is a clear yes. It happens every day and we battle it. How it happens I won't discuss. But it happens more than any of the pay site promoters have to deal with.

Stop your fucking bitching about tube sites. Do you want to know why we ended up as we are? Because we clearly saw that the Orgasm Cash porn site model was collapsing. That was years ago.

Adapt or die. Every successful business does.

StickyGreen · 09-28-2009, 04:52 PM

Damn that Hitler vid was fucking hilarious...

TheDoc · 09-28-2009, 04:59 PM

Do you know what makes that video, super super funny?

The video itself is a Copyright Violation.. It's not a parody, it isn't org work. It's straight up, illegal.

But ... that's GFY for ya, yell, bitch, moan and complain.. but hey, here is that YouTube clip of a music video, commercial, etc that is funny/stupid, whatever..

NYRangers · 09-28-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Do you know what makes that video, super super funny?

The video itself is a Copyright Violation.. It's not a parody, it isn't org work. It's straight up, illegal.

But ... that's GFY for ya, yell, bitch, moan and complain.. but hey, here is that YouTube clip of a music video, commercial, etc that is funny/stupid, whatever..

It's a parody for fucks sakes. Seriously, nitpick on a different issue. Fuck originality. It's a goddamn parody.

If you want to rail on people on GFY let me know. I have a bunch of things for you to target. Right now I'm waiting for the guy in Asia to justify the shit I called him out on.

TheDoc · 09-28-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

It's a parody for fucks sakes. Seriously, nitpick on a different issue. Fuck originality. It's a goddamn parody.

If you want to rail on people on GFY let me know. I have a bunch of things for you to target. Right now I'm waiting for the guy in Asia to justify the shit I called him out on.

No, that's copyright infringement.. a Parody makes fun of original work, it doesn't steal or copy in this case, the original work and use it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub

Because distribution of fan-subtitled content is a violation of copyright laws in most countries, the ethical implications of producing, distributing, or watching fansubs are topics of much controversy.

Enough so... that Youtube kicks them.

NYRangers · 09-30-2009, 04:36 PM

So only two people slam me for what I said. I honestly figured when I came back to this thread I would have been ripped apart. Especially about the person I called out.

Fuck, this site needs more of the aggressive characters that it had. I actually thought the person I called out would put up a valid argument that we could debate.

I guess when the facts are put on the table it's a different story.

NYRangers · 09-30-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

No, that's copyright infringement.. a Parody makes fun of original work, it doesn't steal or copy in this case, the original work and use it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub

Because distribution of fan-subtitled content is a violation of copyright laws in most countries, the ethical implications of producing, distributing, or watching fansubs are topics of much controversy.

Enough so... that Youtube kicks them.

You know what, I have to think this is shit. If this same clip showed up in one of those movies that spoofs on other movies it would be called a parody.

If you don't think the clip makes fun of the original work then I'm going to have a long chat with you debating this. But I don't want to do this here. It would take away from the original meaning of the thread.

TheDoc · 09-30-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

LOL at the irony of a fansubbed clip posted in GFY about the downfall of GFY by selling a TUBE skin.

Taking a scene from a movie and adding your own subtitles is called a "fansub"

fansubs are considered copyright infringement to movie studios. LOL

just sayin ;)

Shusshhh... piracy only happens when it happens to me.

TheDoc · 09-30-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

You know what, I have to think this is shit. If this same clip showed up in one of those movies that spoofs on other movies it would be called a parody.

Those spoof movies, scary movie, shit like that. They don't "steal" the "original" work...

They recreate it, with new actors, new sets, they spend money and then make fun of it - making it NEW original work.

Saturday night live, the onion, and so on all do this, and not one of the steals original work to do it.

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

If you don't think the clip makes fun of the original work then I'm going to have a long chat with you debating this. But I don't want to do this here. It would take away from the original meaning of the thread.

We really don't have anything to debate.

dyna mo · 09-30-2009, 04:54 PM

best parody ever

lagcam · 09-30-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

I really can't figure you out. A bunch of times when you post it makes sense. Then when I saw you starting to post about Epoch asking for model verification I figured it was just some sticking point. No logical sense, but some sticking point. You gave some front about protecting your "talent" but it was still a ridiculous sticking point in my eyes.

I figured what the fuck. I can never agree with anyone 100% of the time.

But you also jump on this Traffic Junky bash bandwagon. I'm not going to draw this out any longer because I am at Oktoberfest and drunk. But I have to make one point...

Please, please, please stop going on some legal or moral high ground about anything. What you do is illegal. So give it a rest. Seriously, it's a tired act.

I think more than one person posts with the DirtyWhiteBoy nick........if not that is one hell of a split personality.

NYRangers · 09-30-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Those spoof movies, scary movie, shit like that. They don't "steal" the "original" work...

They recreate it, with new actors, new sets, they spend money and then make fun of it - making it NEW original work.

Saturday night live, the onion, and so on all do this, and not one of the steals original work to do it.

We really don't have anything to debate.

Fuck it, I'm stubborn then. I don't think a parody needs to be that detailed. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong.

I guess we are all pirates in your eyes.

NYRangers · 09-30-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

best parody ever

Campari in the crapper with mom! I remember STEALING the magazine from the convenient store when I was a kid. STOLE most of my Hustlers because I was too young to buy them.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Shusshhh... piracy only happens when it happens to me.

heh pointing out irony on the internet is one of my favorite hobbies LOL

Fansubs are considered ? infringement, its as simple as reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub

we all love them, they are funny as shit, the internet wouldnt be the same without them, but movie studios see them as infringement

NYRangers · 09-30-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

I think more than one person posts with the DirtyWhiteBoy nick........if not that is one hell of a split personality.

I just don't get it. Tons of funny and good posts. But the hypocrisy pisses me off. The joking or spoof excuse won't fly this time. That card has been played enough.

TheDoc · 09-30-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

Fuck it, I'm stubborn then. I don't think a parody needs to be that detailed. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong.

I guess we are all pirates in your eyes.

Details aside...

The Supreme Court of the United States stated that parody "is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works."

Yep, WE are pirates, arrrrrr.... I just try to keep my double standards in check.

dyna mo · 09-30-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

Campari in the crapper with mom! I remember STEALING the magazine from the convenient store when I was a kid. STOLE most of my Hustlers because I was too young to buy them.

yah, i had to nab mine many times back then too eh. and i remember this very ad

the interesting thing is that Campari never filed suit against hustler for infringement or any copyright violations.

but falwell sued (and ultimately lost) for emotional distress or something silly.

the turn of topic reminded me of all this.

TheDoc · 09-30-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

heh pointing out irony on the internet is one of my favorite hobbies LOL

Fansubs are considered ? infringement, its as simple as reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub

we all love them, they are funny as shit, the internet wouldnt be the same without them, but movie studios see them as infringement

I myself had no idea it was copyright infringement until youtube told me otherwise... it seems you can get away with it, as long as nobody complains.

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