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Don't Buy Monster Energy Drinks
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Matt Nadeau of Rock Art Brewery, http://rockartbrewery.com , sits down with Green River Pictures to let the world know his side of the Monster Energy drink Trademark lawsuit. |
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I just had one of their mocha coffee drinks this past weekend.
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Good free press for him at least.
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WoW that is just desgusting.....
Sad fact is that unless enough people speak up and someone steps up to financially assist this guy he most likely will loose. |
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poor guy, but this is what happens when you trump all progress with copyright/trademark laws.
The moment you start with the "you cant use that word" these things will occur.... even the lawyers claimed there is no infringement. Simple as that.
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Respect to that guy for fighting it.
Fuck Monster. Their energy drinks taste like shit anyway. I still have 3 out of a 4 pack sitting in my fridge from about 2 years ago, when Full Throttle wasn't in stock. It seriously tastes THAT bad that I couldn't open another one.
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ya know i thought about it...Yea its garbage... Fuck monster, ill stay away fromt hem...
But Hes only being asked to change the name of a beer... not the name of his business. Financially he shouldnt... but being a man of principles... im sure he will drain a lot of money that his kids could benefit from to try and retain his beer name... and most likely lose it...
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he was making the beer before Monster drinks were being made.
He has every right and should stand up against them. Monster Energy drinks are now in distribution deal with Anheauser Busch, if David ever wanted to fight Goliath, going against inBev/AB will be it. remember, beer and energy drinks are different, this is being fought over the word "monster"
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Dude is nescient. Milk the press, change the name.
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Monster Cable has been suing people right and left for the use of various things they consider their trademarks. I am surprised he has not heard from them too.
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In fact, the brewer should be suing Monster!
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Guys been making beer. Another company has been making energy drinks Energy drink guys want to make beer Energy drink guys sue brewer who has been making alcoholic beverages before they were. Should the brewer being suing them??? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/WireS...8810200&page=1
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I am sure he will never win and will loose a ton a money in the process to fight for his rights.... But at least we can get the word out and support his business and boycott monster energy drink's.
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How much cash do you think he has invested into the marketing plan for this.? How much FREE marketing do you think he will get if he wins? How many Millions do you think he will make in Sympathy beer purchases after he wins? This is not a cut and dry (it will cost him a bit to fight this)....it could be seen as the single biggest opportunaty his company will ever get to break through the glass cealing |
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What a crybaby. Just change the name of the beer and move on. I'm going to go buy a Monster and maybe some beef jerky right now.
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Go steal some content for your tube after that....
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everyone steals from everyone, its a fact.
why didnt this guy come out about this years ago until after waiting all this time? probably because he wanted to ensure himself that he would get millions for trying to go after them
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That is the way the real world works! Most people are never involved in it and can't really understand what really goes down.
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I don't think he is being a cry baby, why be sued over a name that isn't even copy infringement. Monster is being the cry babies in this situation.
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i dont drink that shit
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Ha ha nothing! I can't have a option?
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they filed C n D a few weeks ago.
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thats america for you!
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watched the whole thing.. fucking retarded
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Before you all think im some fuckin communist get a grip...
Im thinking realistically. Not principles ... Of course the guy should win and keep his name... But will he? Shoul dhe dump money or should he keep it? Sure he should win it all and then some. But come on... get real... there is maybe a 5% chance he gets any push from the media... the world would rather focus on the retardation of some lunatic and his helium balloon than what really matters
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Yeah, he might be good at brewing but is still a tool.
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I like the Low Carb Monster drinks
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something tells me if you created a brewery from your basement to what he has built up youd sing a different tune.
you guys are funny. shit on the littleman building up his company, one day it may be you, although i doubt most could do what he did.
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sorry i was talking about the situation not the guy. I agree with him, i don't think vermonster or whatever the beer is called is a trademark infringement on Monster Energy drink.. i think it's make work for the lawyer.
a vermonster beer being a trademark infringement on a beer that doesn't exist is an extreme stretch of the imagination. If this vermonster brewery wanted to make an energy drink i can understand, but if it's the other way around that starts to make me feel afraid about any business or idea i come up with being completely walked over by people with the money to simply buy a judge. |
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I agree with him fighting to a point. Would not sacrifice everything on that principle battle though with a wife and kids.
Just had a few issues. He is a fucking corporation himself so stop bashing fucking corporate America. He became a corporation for the same reasons they all did. To take advantage or tax codes, to protect assets, and all that other crap. Stop with the boo hoo about 1 billion dollars. You do not need to say it that many times. It does not change things. You can still win as a small guy and appeals do not get to go on and on forever and ever. 1 billion dollars, damn and to think people go up against the entire US government on cases all of the time - I did. It is not necessarily buying justice or the courts. Yup money sure in the fuck does help. It is a way to fight and to speak. Using the media, news outlets, grass roots movements, and other such tactics also are another way to fight. Actually would give him the upper hand to kneecap the giant by harming their image and sales much more than they ever would win, or even make worthwhile to them after some point in time.
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God damn that was the best Monster I have had in a long time. I could almost taste the tears in it. I toasted corporate America, downed the entire can and threw the motherfucker away without even thinking of recycling it.
Pussies.
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that video is brilliant marketing on his part
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This sounds like Twistys and the hardsextube :>
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This has more to do with the way our trademark/copyright laws are set up. The problem is if Monster doesn't protect it's name then the next time someone makes a "monster" product they can use this guys beer as precedent to say that they are not infringing. Instead companies are forced to protect their property tooth and nail. Don't hate the player hate the game. That being said monster tastes like shit so I will not be buying it anyways.
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Not sure if this has any effect on the case but you have some big names behind the distribution of Monster:
Marketed and distributed by Hansen Natural Corporation, a NASDAQ listed company of Corona, California. Though Monster Energy is not widely advertised in the media it receives a large amount of recognition from its sponsorship of various sporting events. Hansen Natural Corporation announced a distribution agreement with Anheuser-Busch in the U.S.[2] and Grupo Jumex in Mexico.[3] Hansen Natural Corporation has recently announced a distribution deal with PepsiCo Canada. On November 10, 2008, the distribution of Monster turned over to CCE, Coca Cola United, and other Coke bottlers in many markets. Contracts with existing distributors were bought out in these markets. In late 2009 or early 2010 Monster Energy will expand their market and release their products to other countries including Germany. It is distributed in Australia by Schweppes.
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Yeah. That's the American Dream. Cool speech at the beginning of the video.
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I'd boycott it if I thought it was drinkable in the first place, can't stand the stuff anyways so wasn't buying it anyways
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The special ED beer he is fighting for is burned into my brain but it is a special edition, one he could loose or fold his hand on. He needed to take some que's from some Samuel Adams commercials. Quote:
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I do have stronger issues with the ease at which the wrong types of words can be dropped into TM/CR protection. Shit like "Your fired" and other crap should not happen.
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I don't drink that shit anyways.
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That's what happened to me when I started my website VerPlayBoy.com
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should have had a better lawyer, not make a video complaining, just change the name, it would probably cost less
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Just another reason US is fucked up..
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www.monster.com is doing just fine in spite of a regional small time micro brewer slinging a few pints. i don't see them laywerin up.
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It is known as a legal Mafia. It is discusting.
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Many people claim that the Monster Energy drink is the best on the market
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