Dugmor and Stiel... busted a member charging back a site of yours - GoFuckYourself.com

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 06:45 PM

Unless someone else uses Dugmor as a descriptor for ccBill, I busted a guy trying to chargeback a membership.

Same goes for Stile, he was charging back Camwhores

edit: christ... the topic should read Stile

Jay_StandAhead · 12-12-2002, 07:53 PM

Dugmor Rules.

Pipecrew · 12-12-2002, 07:55 PM

Nice Job, one of these days it will be me and you on the phone

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
Nice Job, one of these days it will be me and you on the phone

as in one day you'll be charging back and i'll bust you, or one day, you and i will work side by side in harmonious glory?

Sly_RJ · 12-12-2002, 07:58 PM

Someone should send you a Christmas ham.

Dugmor · 12-12-2002, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Unless someone else uses Dugmor as a descriptor for ccBill, I busted a guy trying to chargeback a membership.

Same goes for Stile, he was charging back Camwhores

edit: christ... the topic should read Stile

What do you mean by a " descriptor " ?

2 entries found for descriptor.
de·scrip·tor ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-skrptr)
n. Computer Science
A word, phrase, or alphanumeric character used to identify an item in an information storage and retrieval system

You have my phone number 1-514-841-2650
and my ICQ is 45771964

Pipecrew · 12-12-2002, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

as in one day you'll be charging back and i'll bust you, or one day, you and i will work side by side in harmonious glory?

like i've mentioned before its a nightmare charing back with visa but if you do everything and not just subscription stuff, maybe!

Actually is there any limit for chargebacks, like if you do to many (all for legit reasons) does your account get "flagged"

I have had a few instances where I got fucked by two hosts and had to do chargebacks and some other ebay type shit

Jay_StandAhead · 12-12-2002, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Unless someone else uses Dugmor as a descriptor for ccBill, I busted a guy trying to chargeback a membership.

Same goes for Stile, he was charging back Camwhores

edit: christ... the topic should read Stile

Do you mean a guy tried to chargeback from one of dugmor's site?

or do you mean something else?

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dugmor

What do you mean by a " descriptor " ?

Descriptor is the text that appears next to "CCBill.com" on people's credit card statements, as per the new Visa regs.

And Pipecrew, there's no limit to chargebacks. If you keep getting screwed, we keep covering your ass. And I deal with any sort of chargeback, as well as any other customer service problem. Do you have a TD Visa?

On a related note, I recently busted a guy disputing a non-porn memebership. His password was "asslick". We all had a good laugh at work.

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]
Do you mean a guy tried to chargeback from one of dugmor's site?

or do you mean something else?

He has a subscription to one of Dugmor's sites, billed thru ccBill. He was trying to say it wasn't his, although he's had it recurring for a few months. Same for Camwhores.

Dugmor · 12-12-2002, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

He has a subscription to one of Dugmor's sites, billed thru ccBill. He was trying to say it wasn't his, although he's had it recurring for a few months. Same for Camwhores.

Thanks a lot dude ! If you are in Vegas I am for going to have to buy you a few drinks.......... The funny part is that Stile and I have the same fucked up members. I have been a huge fan of Stile Project and I am sure we attract the same freaks !

What was this guys name or subscription number.. I am going to have to send some hard pipe hittin niggaz over there !

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 08:17 PM

correct me if i'm wrong, but you're in montreal, right?
cause i am.

won't be in vegas tho... i'm not "big time" enough

Dugmor · 12-12-2002, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
correct me if i'm wrong, but you're in montreal, right?
cause i am.

won't be in vegas tho... i'm not "big time" enough

Yes that is correct I have my offices of St. Denis and Masoneuve, Berri Metro, across from the St. Denis theater and I have a huge lost of St. Laurent and Pine. Right across from Go Go Lounge !

Since you won't be in Vegas I am more than happy to buy you some drinks and dances at the strip club of your choice !

We can start the tour at

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(514) 939-9863

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I am more than willing to go off St. Catherine also. If I missed any please let me know so we can call before to get the VIP booth.

After that we can go for some street action !

heymatty · 12-12-2002, 08:28 PM

What kind of questions are you told to ask to verify if a chargeback is valid in each case? Are you supposed to investigate the claim or are most of the people that work with you fairly quick on the refund trigger?

I also wanted to chargeback on a host that took an extra payment after I left, but I had to write a letter to even start the process. That was cibc visa.

Now I use American express for everything I can because they are very very good on stuff like that. Although I never needed to ask for a charge to be removed so far.

Anyways interesting to here it from an insdiders point of view, thanks.

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by heymatty
What kind of questions are you told to ask to verify if a chargeback is valid in each case? Are you supposed to investigate the claim or are most of the people that work with you fairly quick on the refund trigger?

I also wanted to chargeback on a host that took an extra payment after I left, but I had to write a letter to even start the process. That was cibc visa.

Now I use American express for everything I can because they are very very good on stuff like that. Although I never needed to ask for a charge to be removed so far.

Anyways interesting to here it from an insdiders point of view, thanks.

when you call for a chargeback, we ask the reason for the chargeback. depending on the reason, there's certain actions that need to be taken.
if you're disputing a charge from a merchant that falls in the 5967 category (internet merchants) or any other merchants where there's no signed contract/receipt, Visa (any bank) needs a signed letter from you attesting to the fact that the charge was unauthorized.

each claim is investigated.
each chargeback is looked at individually and subjectively, regardless of who you are ($500 limit, $50k limit, 1 year with us, 20 years with us) or who the merchant is.
in fact, those doing the chargeback only know your card number, name and address. they don't know your credit limit, payment history, how long you've had the card, etc.
if the merchant fails to prove the transaction was authorized by the cardholder within 45 days of the dispute, the chargeback is resolved in the cardholder's favor.

i ask more questions then necessary when someone calls for a porn chargeback because myself and a co-worker are working on a pilot chargeback project to reduce porn chargebacks.

multisexsite · 12-12-2002, 09:01 PM

Dude you are so gonna get fired one day for this

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by multisexsite
Dude you are so gonna get fired one day for this

like i said, it's a pilot project i'm working on.
it's been approved by my managers and directors.

Dugmor · 12-12-2002, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

like i said, it's a pilot project i'm working on.
it's been approved by my managers and directors.

I think it is excellent that we have a guy from Visa working for all us Adult Webmasters. I am glad that you communicate directly with us and keep us up to date with your very important part of our industry. I think everyone that has ever experienced a fraudulent charge back owes you a drink.

Too bad you didn't get in touch with me last night. I threw a holiday Christmas party at The Omni Hotel in the St. Laurent Penthouse suite. I am sure a lot top escorts in Montreal will be having a good Christmas. We even had a dwarf there !

Definitely give me a call and you can take me up on those drinks anytime !

psyko514 · 12-12-2002, 10:00 PM

sounds like a deal to me!

it sucks that i missed the dwarf tho.

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psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	sounds like a deal to me! it sucks that i missed the dwarf tho.