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pussyluver · 11-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Good for traffic trades.... Some trades went in to auto suspend...

J B · 11-19-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

FYI 10:56 CST- still down. Assume this is why statsremote is not reachable too.

Everybody has problems sometime....

That's correct... I'm very sorry about this but StatsRemote doesn't work if NatNet is down

Fortunately this is very rare... hosting with them since 1998.

pussyluver · 11-19-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zentz

anyone up for some traffic trades? im gonna need some to compensate the lost ones after this

If you have friendly trading partners, they should shoot ya a nice force to help ya get things going again. You could always do a quick traffic buy when things come back up to get your trades going again...

webgurl · 11-19-2009, 10:12 PM

I am very happy with their service it is solid but for those that say their sites or natnet's network has never been down or very little downtime for " X "amount of years , that must be a miracle , because I been with them for less than half year and this is my 4th downtime .....

pussyluver · 11-19-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J B

That's correct... I'm very sorry about this but StatsRemote doesn't work if NatNet is down

Fortunately this is very rare... hosting with them since 1998.

No biggie, stuff happens.... I'm sure NatNet will pull out all the stops to get things back up.

When I saw the connection problem, I went WTF is wrong with my computer/net connection now.. Some good news. This time it isn't a problem I have to tackle.

Was headed to my backup connection and my usual trouble shoot - glad i thought to stop by GFY first.

xxweekxx · 11-19-2009, 10:19 PM

Over 3hrs for me... ive lost about $1,000 so far due to this downtime, and counting

I wonder how much money guys like quickbuck who are down are losing?

scubadiver626 · 11-19-2009, 10:20 PM

"Do you hassle your $29.95/mo ISP for thousands of dollars in compensation when they go down for a couple of hours?" Rowan, yes i do, but that's a different issue.

It's not right for customers to pay lots of money monthly and not get what they paid for. I definitely think a partial reimbursement is not unreasonable for ALL their clients.

Everyone here including Natnet is losing money.... it's a question of how much is lost?

AlCapone · 11-19-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626

"Do you hassle your $29.95/mo ISP for thousands of dollars in compensation when they go down for a couple of hours?" Rowan, yes i do, but that's a different issue.

It's not right for customers to pay lots of money monthly and not get what they paid for. I definitely think a partial reimbursement is not unreasonable for ALL their clients.

Everyone here including Natnet is losing money.... it's a question of how much is lost?

Are you really going to be this much of an idiot for $.50c?

zentz · 11-19-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626

Everyone here including Natnet is losing money.... it's a question of how much is lost?

much more then they would lose for giving us 1 month of free hosting

[Brian] · 11-19-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by webgurl

I am very happy with their service it is solid but for those that say their sites or natnet's network has never been down or very little downtime for " X "amount of years , that must be a miracle , because I been with them for less than half year and this is my 4th downtime .....

Yeah same here, it's been a bit spotty since we switched over to Natnet 4-5 months ago, but still have faith in the service as well.

xxweekxx · 11-19-2009, 10:29 PM

i dont care about hosting refund.. how much is that? $1?

what im upset about a bit is i started a new campaign for some shit that was getting around $300/hr at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, then bam it goes down... and it was on the way up.. ive lost at least $1k, probably more like $2k if it doesnt come back in an hr or two...

oh wells.. time to go out and get drunk, no need waiting here for shit to come up

rowan · 11-19-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626

"Do you hassle your $29.95/mo ISP for thousands of dollars in compensation when they go down for a couple of hours?" Rowan, yes i do, but that's a different issue.

It's not right for customers to pay lots of money monthly and not get what they paid for. I definitely think a partial reimbursement is not unreasonable for ALL their clients.

Everyone here including Natnet is losing money.... it's a question of how much is lost?

I guess my point was that the adult industry tends to have larger profit margins, so the cost of hosting is relatively small in comparison to income. And the host's own profit from you is a smaller percentage of that figure. So you can't really expect a host to be able to pay you 500% of your monthly fee as compensation for the $ you've lost for half a day's downtime. At some point the responsibility has to fall on the customer (eg with a hot spare at another host) because the host can only do so much, unless you want them to go broke...

zentz · 11-19-2009, 10:32 PM

good news i called a tarot master and she said natnet will come back online in 10 minutes.

11-19-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zentz

good news i called a tarot master and she said natnet will come back online in 10 minutes.

the card lady better be right.

xxweekxx · 11-19-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

the card lady better be right.

5 more mins and we'll know.. or he better call and chargeback

AlCapone · 11-19-2009, 10:40 PM

I unplugged NatNet, and then I got sidetracked.

pamon · 11-19-2009, 10:41 PM

What kind of campaign are u running at 300/hr? Adwords or ppc related? Big money to lose then on that.

xxweekxx · 11-19-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zentz

good news i called a tarot master and she said natnet will come back online in 10 minutes.

Chargeback.. did you use an american express? its very easy.. just login and hit dispute..

heymatty · 11-19-2009, 10:46 PM

Its annoying when you don't have control over your own business.

EscortBiz · 11-19-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

i host there...
http://www.shemp.com
is my site up?

live now!

xxweekxx · 11-19-2009, 10:49 PM

ah finally my sht is back.. hopefully it aint going down again

11-19-2009, 10:50 PM

The tarot gypsy was off only by a few minutes. I am back up!

SweetT · 11-19-2009, 10:51 PM

Things should be coming back up now....we will be here all night making sure and I will keep you posted.

--T

pussyluver · 11-19-2009, 10:51 PM

shemp.com is back...

[Brian] · 11-19-2009, 10:52 PM

PingdomAlert UP:
RoaringTiger (www.roaringtiger.com) is UP again at 11/19/2009 09:49:19PM, after 3h 5m of downtime.

Iron Fist · 11-19-2009, 10:53 PM

looks like its coming back.. all the natnet sponsors seemed to be down 5 mins ago.. so this is good

reloading my niftystats

the Shemp · 11-19-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

shemp.com is back...

thanks for keeping an eye on things, bro

Les Grossman · 11-19-2009, 11:37 PM

So was this a DDOS?

ExtremeBank_Adam · 11-19-2009, 11:45 PM

My stuff is back up, too.

WiredGuy · 11-19-2009, 11:55 PM

Back up again here, just under 3 hours or so in total. Thanks for fixing it guys.
WG

SweetT · 11-20-2009, 12:42 AM

Just got out of a meeting with the Senior Staff and at this point everything is up and running normally. What will happen now is that they will coordinate with our Security Consultants and our hardware vendors to determine exactly what happened. I hope to have concrete answers by morning in the form of a post mortem.

Those that know me know that I am not the most technical person in the world but I am speculating that this was a cascading issue. I believe what started as a run-of-the-mill DDOS caused other issues that had to be diagnosed and resolved. This is why we have our hardware vendors engaged along with our Security Staff and Consultants right this second to make sure that we have shored up any outstanding issues and to make sure that something like this cannot happen again.

As I have always said, perfection is something that cannot be achieved in this business but it does not mean that we cannot strive for it everyday. It is very easy to look back on an issue and say "well if we had done this or this that would not have happened" but it is entirely another thing to be able to predict the future. What I will promise our customers is that we will learn from this and we will spend the time and money necessary to prevent it from happening again.

With the network being stable again, I am going to bow out of this thread now and get back to work. As always, my team and I will be available to any NationalNet customer that would like to discuss the issues of the day in more detail.

Again, thanks for your patience and we look forward to everyone getting back to what matters the most....trying to make some money!

--T

ericdv · 11-20-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pamon

What kind of campaign are u running at 300/hr? Adwords or ppc related? Big money to lose then on that.

Imaginary campaigns can get expensive.

stoner529 · 11-20-2009, 07:18 AM

damn, i missed all the excitement, and to think im comming up on free agency with them. its a contract year for me!

Wiredoctor · 11-20-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

i dont care about hosting refund.. how much is that? $1?

what im upset about a bit is i started a new campaign for some shit that was getting around $300/hr at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, then bam it goes down... and it was on the way up.. ive lost at least $1k, probably more like $2k if it doesnt come back in an hr or two...

oh wells.. time to go out and get drunk, no need waiting here for shit to come up

Those numbers seem like bull. I know you are upset at another long natnet downtime, and yeah it totally sucks but if you really make 300.00 per hour and as Rowan said in an above post then it's your fault for having all your eggs in one basket. You should have backups at other hosts especially if you are pulling in that kind of loot.

dyna mo · 11-20-2009, 08:18 AM

$300/hour = what, $250,000/month?

nice coinage.

xxweekxx · 11-20-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

$300/hour = what, $250,000/month?

nice coinage.

Its not $300/hr ALL Day everyday, its just a new campaign.. and u guys 4got i posted screenshots of $10k/day mainstream with acai/biz opps..

ive had plenty $10k days... and yes i lost $2k from that downtime....

will76 · 11-20-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Its not $300/hr ALL Day everyday, its just a new campaign.. and u guys 4got i posted screenshots of $10k/day mainstream with acai/biz opps..

ive had plenty $10k days... and yes i lost $2k from that downtime....

ah so you the guy sending me all of the acai berry emails lol

xxweekxx · 11-20-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

ah so you the guy sending me all of the acai berry emails lol

not anymore

undersoul · 11-20-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

$300/hour = what, $250,000/month?

nice coinage.

nice indeed. don't wanna be down if that money $$$ is coming in!

Jake · 11-20-2009, 09:44 AM

As the saying goes, "shit happens". I've been in this business for over 10 and I can't even remember the number of places I've hosted but one thing I know for sure is NatNet's reliability and support has been far superior to any host we've ever worked with. We've hosted at NatNet for at least 3 years now so I can say with confidence they are a cut above!

The thing that always cracks me up when I see one of these threads is that 50% of those whining about NatNet being down have absolutely no interest in the situation and the other 50% are "ballers" that may possibly lose a sale or 2 during the outage. My

AliGbone · 11-20-2009, 03:52 PM

I moved from them long time ago. Dey have more downtime than any host in the biz period!

sorry don't pay da bills. good luck to all you downt time erz

undersoul · 11-23-2009, 03:37 PM

so was it a DDOS attack or something else?

San · 11-23-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by undersoul

so was it a DDOS attack or something else?

that's the funniest part

the supposedly top hosting company cant tell their ass from the hole in the ground

webair · 11-23-2009, 04:37 PM

This is from how many days ago? There are soooo many factors that come into effect when running a successful hosting company. The fact that the CEO of the company cares enough to post here to keep you updates is in itself admirable!

Take it easy these guys are rarely down. Not to mention Tony is already feeling bad that the Falcons got beat up by the Giants this weekend =)

Let's move along now and put this in its proper place...THE PAST!

11-19-2009, 10:12 PM	#54
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,951	I am very happy with their service it is solid but for those that say their sites or natnet's network has never been down or very little downtime for " X "amount of years , that must be a miracle , because I been with them for less than half year and this is my 4th downtime ..... Last edited by webgurl; 11-19-2009 at 10:14 PM..

11-19-2009, 10:19 PM	#56
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	Over 3hrs for me... ive lost about $1,000 so far due to this downtime, and counting I wonder how much money guys like quickbuck who are down are losing? __________________ _________________ I am the best

11-19-2009, 10:29 PM	#61
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	i dont care about hosting refund.. how much is that? $1? what im upset about a bit is i started a new campaign for some shit that was getting around $300/hr at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, then bam it goes down... and it was on the way up.. ive lost at least $1k, probably more like $2k if it doesnt come back in an hr or two... oh wells.. time to go out and get drunk, no need waiting here for shit to come up __________________ _________________ I am the best

11-19-2009, 10:32 PM	#63
zentz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,053	good news i called a tarot master and she said natnet will come back online in 10 minutes. __________________ Programs that owe me money ---- Epassporte.com ~ $2700 \| Protraffic.com ~ $2600 \| XonDemand.com ~ $3000 Email: [email protected]

11-19-2009, 10:40 PM	#66
AlCapone Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 708	I unplugged NatNet, and then I got sidetracked. __________________ "You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.”

11-19-2009, 10:06 PM	#51
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Good for traffic trades.... Some trades went in to auto suspend...

11-19-2009, 10:20 PM	#57
scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	"Do you hassle your $29.95/mo ISP for thousands of dollars in compensation when they go down for a couple of hours?" Rowan, yes i do, but that's a different issue. It's not right for customers to pay lots of money monthly and not get what they paid for. I definitely think a partial reimbursement is not unreasonable for ALL their clients. Everyone here including Natnet is losing money.... it's a question of how much is lost?

11-19-2009, 10:41 PM	#67
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11-19-2009, 10:46 PM	#69
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11-19-2009, 10:49 PM	#71
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	ah finally my sht is back.. hopefully it aint going down again __________________ _________________ I am the best

11-19-2009, 10:50 PM	#72
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	The tarot gypsy was off only by a few minutes. I am back up!

11-19-2009, 10:51 PM	#73
SweetT Shank-A-Potamus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia USA Posts: 1,756	Things should be coming back up now....we will be here all night making sure and I will keep you posted. --T __________________

11-19-2009, 10:52 PM	#75
[Brian] Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,523	PingdomAlert UP: RoaringTiger (www.roaringtiger.com) is UP again at 11/19/2009 09:49:19PM, after 3h 5m of downtime. __________________ HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program ICQ: 391113064

11-19-2009, 10:53 PM	#76
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	looks like its coming back.. all the natnet sponsors seemed to be down 5 mins ago.. so this is good reloading my niftystats __________________ i like waffles

11-19-2009, 11:37 PM	#78
Les Grossman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On your last nerve Posts: 1,012	So was this a DDOS?

11-19-2009, 11:45 PM	#79
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11-19-2009, 11:55 PM	#80
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,451	Back up again here, just under 3 hours or so in total. Thanks for fixing it guys. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-20-2009, 12:42 AM	#81
SweetT Shank-A-Potamus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia USA Posts: 1,756	Just got out of a meeting with the Senior Staff and at this point everything is up and running normally. What will happen now is that they will coordinate with our Security Consultants and our hardware vendors to determine exactly what happened. I hope to have concrete answers by morning in the form of a post mortem. Those that know me know that I am not the most technical person in the world but I am speculating that this was a cascading issue. I believe what started as a run-of-the-mill DDOS caused other issues that had to be diagnosed and resolved. This is why we have our hardware vendors engaged along with our Security Staff and Consultants right this second to make sure that we have shored up any outstanding issues and to make sure that something like this cannot happen again. As I have always said, perfection is something that cannot be achieved in this business but it does not mean that we cannot strive for it everyday. It is very easy to look back on an issue and say "well if we had done this or this that would not have happened" but it is entirely another thing to be able to predict the future. What I will promise our customers is that we will learn from this and we will spend the time and money necessary to prevent it from happening again. With the network being stable again, I am going to bow out of this thread now and get back to work. As always, my team and I will be available to any NationalNet customer that would like to discuss the issues of the day in more detail. Again, thanks for your patience and we look forward to everyone getting back to what matters the most....trying to make some money! --T __________________

11-20-2009, 07:18 AM	#83
stoner529 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: longwood, fl Posts: 421	damn, i missed all the excitement, and to think im comming up on free agency with them. its a contract year for me!

11-20-2009, 08:18 AM	#85
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,914	$300/hour = what, $250,000/month? nice coinage.

11-20-2009, 09:44 AM	#90
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	As the saying goes, "shit happens". I've been in this business for over 10 and I can't even remember the number of places I've hosted but one thing I know for sure is NatNet's reliability and support has been far superior to any host we've ever worked with. We've hosted at NatNet for at least 3 years now so I can say with confidence they are a cut above! The thing that always cracks me up when I see one of these threads is that 50% of those whining about NatNet being down have absolutely no interest in the situation and the other 50% are "ballers" that may possibly lose a sale or 2 during the outage. My __________________

11-20-2009, 03:52 PM	#91
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11-23-2009, 03:37 PM	#92
undersoul Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: underground Posts: 1,212	so was it a DDOS attack or something else? __________________ RIP TD

11-23-2009, 04:37 PM	#94
webair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 8,531	This is from how many days ago? There are soooo many factors that come into effect when running a successful hosting company. The fact that the CEO of the company cares enough to post here to keep you updates is in itself admirable! Take it easy these guys are rarely down. Not to mention Tony is already feeling bad that the Falcons got beat up by the Giants this weekend =) Let's move along now and put this in its proper place...THE PAST! __________________ ~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~ ~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~ *ICQ:* 243116321 - *TWITTER* - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected]