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Old 11-21-2009, 04:48 PM   #1
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Brazilian Webmaster got arrested for promoting the following sponsors

the brazilian police claims that he was promoting CHILD PORN and gave the links to FREE HOSTED GALLERIES from the following sponsors as the cause for him to be arrested:
artnudegalleries
babesbank
dieselaction
fuckingcash
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lauraloveskatrina
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royalcash
seriouscash
teenrevenue

here is the link to the news that was the local news:
http://www.orm.com.br/projetos/olibe...&codigo=444263

I personally don't know the guy... all I know is what his friend told me on ADX... so I am posting here because he claims that he tried to contact those sponsors and was not able to get any answer...

I know that those sponsors don't have CP... but the webmaster needs to prove that to the brazilian police...

here is the email for the friend of the guy who was arrested: roberto(AT)lemos.biz

one of the things that is said on the news is that he didn't have CP on his site, but the links he had on his site SUGGESTED that the links would lead to TEEN EROTICA (or teen porn)

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Os nomes nos links todos sugeriam que a atração ali eram adolescentes em imagens eróticas.
it is most likely that the guy ran a TEEN SITE... and the stupid cops thought that the TEEN links on his site were child porn (as if 18 and 19 were not teens anymore)...

BTW: he had the 2257 link on the bottom of his site -> http://www.sitesadultos.com/2257.php (this is one example of the info he had on his site)

I can post his url but the site was taken down by brazilian police -> www.clubforteenagers.com

these are some of his other sites:
http://sitesadultos.com/
http://www.amadorascaseiras.biz/
http://www.amazonsexy.biz/
http://www.filmesgratis.biz/
http://www.garotasderuas.info/
http://www.calcinhas.biz/
http://www.coroas.biz/
http://www.socaseiras.info/
http://www.coroasnuas.biz/
http://www.videodesexo.biz/
http://www.lindasbundas.com/
http://www.socoroas.info/
http://www.girlsnew.org/
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:29 PM   #2
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Not good. I'm not familiar with brazilian laws, but aren't they, the police, supposed to prove it in court?
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We will be happy to provide the police with our 2257 docs, we have a list of the galleries of ours he has us


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I thought Brazil was a much more liberal country than that? I also wasn't aware that their culture even frowned upon teenage sex (meaning 15, 16, and 17) even though he didn't have any of that up there anyway.

Goddamn. It's like the whole world is going into another Dark Ages.
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the brazilian police claims that he was promoting CHILD PORN and gave the links to FREE HOSTED GALLERIES from the following sponsors as the cause for him to be arrested:
artnudegalleries
babesbank
dieselaction
fuckingcash
glamrevenue
lauraloveskatrina
lightspeedcash
mayorsmoney
nitrobucks
payserve
royalcash
seriouscash
teenrevenue

here is the link to the news that was the local news:
http://www.orm.com.br/projetos/olibe...&codigo=444263

I personally don't know the guy... all I know is what his friend told me on ADX... so I am posting here because he claims that he tried to contact those sponsors and was not able to get any answer...

I know that those sponsors don't have CP... but the webmaster needs to prove that to the brazilian police...

here is the email for the friend of the guy who was arrested: roberto(AT)lemos.biz

one of the things that is said on the news is that he didn't have CP on his site, but the links he had on his site SUGGESTED that the links would lead to TEEN EROTICA (or teen porn)



it is most likely that the guy ran a TEEN SITE... and the stupid cops thought that the TEEN links on his site were child porn (as if 18 and 19 were not teens anymore)...

BTW: he had the 2257 link on the bottom of his site -> http://www.sitesadultos.com/2257.php (this is one example of the info he had on his site)

I can post his url but the site was taken down by brazilian police -> www.clubforteenagers.com

these are some of his other sites:
http://sitesadultos.com/
http://www.amadorascaseiras.biz/
http://www.amazonsexy.biz/
http://www.filmesgratis.biz/
http://www.garotasderuas.info/
http://www.calcinhas.biz/
http://www.coroas.biz/
http://www.socaseiras.info/
http://www.coroasnuas.biz/
http://www.videodesexo.biz/
http://www.lindasbundas.com/
http://www.socoroas.info/
http://www.girlsnew.org/


Only in America!!!


oh wait. South America.... lol I get tired of hearing all you foreign people rip on the stupid stuff the US does when every country pulls stupid shit.
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This also points out the risks that affiliates take by not having age docs on file. But when it comes to CP, you don't have to host it, if you link to it you can get in trouble. That is a lot of trust that all of the companies will be able to provide 2257 documents on all of the models in question to bail you out. If they missed one, or don't have any to provide then I would think your defense just got shot.

I made a post about this a week or so ago and most people replied " know what is on your server". Sounds like this case he was just linking to it and didnt have any of the pictures on his server ?
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This also points out the risks that affiliates take by not having age docs on file. But when it comes to CP, you don't have to host it, if you link to it you can get in trouble. That is a lot of trust that all of the companies will be able to provide 2257 documents on all of the models in question to bail you out. If they missed one, or don't have any to provide then I would think your defense just got shot.

I made a post about this a week or so ago and most people replied " know what is on your server". Sounds like this case he was just linking to it and didnt have any of the pictures on his server ?
Well, that also depends on the laws... and law enforcement. If the country has no "2257" or similar requirements, you can't really be charged for not having it. Then, you would also expect that law enforcement did their homework before waisting everyones time. From what I read above, it sounds like the police misunderstood and then just arrested him.
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From what I read above, it sounds like the police misunderstood and then just arrested him.
I'm thinking they saw this "www.clubforteenagers.com" - clicked - saw porn - and jumped into action.

right or wrong - i'm thinking 'make an example of him' was on their minds

who the fuck would think that using that domain for porn wouldn't get them into trouble.

well... I guess 1 guy thought it would be o.k.
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This also points out the risks that affiliates take by not having age docs on file.
Yea, we need this. Any dumb ass can sign up as an affiliate, get a models ID and stalk her.

Porn is FULL of losers, scammers, nut jobs, stalkers, rapists and drug addicts. They will be the last to get a models ID from me.
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Just 2 cents, but maybe the word "teenagers" and "porn" should have never come together?

It bothers some people.
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Is it me or does Club Seventeen from Payserve give off a "under age" feel. ?
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Just 2 cents, but maybe the word "teenagers" and "porn" should have never come together?

It bothers some people.
I can't disagree with that. Though, in order for that have not to happen, the words "18" and "19" would need to be changed, or the legal age for models raised to 20. Which I may add, is not a bad idea. Girls don't have a clue at 18 what is going on. 20 isn't much better, but it's better than 18 and fresh out of high school, with 3 black cocks in her mouth for the whole world to see.
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To be honest I am not really suprised this has happened given the amount of FHG and TGP Sites I see that use images of girls that have been so heavily airbrushed they look about 12.

If the site was using the same sort of images to promote programs, I can understand why it was looked into.
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Without understanding the exact details and the Brazilian laws I can completely see how this could happen. I'm surprised it hasn't happened more. Sucks for him!
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I'm thinking they saw this "www.clubforteenagers.com" - clicked - saw porn - and jumped into action.

right or wrong - i'm thinking 'make an example of him' was on their minds

who the fuck would think that using that domain for porn wouldn't get them into trouble.

well... I guess 1 guy thought it would be o.k.
I think you are 100% correct

People, who don't think using that domain with porn on it won't get you in trouble in any country in the world...What was he thinking

And he can have all the 2257 docs in the world and it won't help him one bit...they are going to nail him for promoting porn to the under aged
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Well, that also depends on the laws... and law enforcement. If the country has no "2257" or similar requirements, you can't really be charged for not having it. Then, you would also expect that law enforcement did their homework before waisting everyones time. From what I read above, it sounds like the police misunderstood and then just arrested him.
right you wont be charged for not having "2257" if they don't have a law on the books for it, but the problem isn't getting a 2257 violation, its getting arressted for cp and not having age docs on file to prove your innocence. If they don't require 2257 type laws and the individual then decides not to carry age docs because he feels its not required, if he gets accused of cp he is screwed since he cant prove it.

The above situation is for a primary producer, what if you are an affiliate and the company says they have 2257 (age docs) but their country doesn't require it so they basically lie to you and just say they have it, then you get arrested for cp, try to contact that company for help and they say "opps".

BTW, in some countries people get killed for missunderstandings by the police
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Yea, we need this. Any dumb ass can sign up as an affiliate, get a models ID and stalk her.

Porn is FULL of losers, scammers, nut jobs, stalkers, rapists and drug addicts. They will be the last to get a models ID from me.
Any dumb ass person can buy "content" of a model and get her info right now. What the hell is your point? I can spend $10 for a picture set of a particular model and get her id if I wanted to stalk her. I have 100's of license and social security numbers of content I have purchased.

You don't need to be an affiliate.

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I think you are 100% correct

People, who don't think using that domain with porn on it won't get you in trouble in any country in the world...What was he thinking

And he can have all the 2257 docs in the world and it won't help him one bit...they are going to nail him for promoting porn to the under aged

big difference between promoting porn to minors and distributing cp. At least the 2257 docs would prove the content on his site is not cp.
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ok.. so some of the most corrupt police in the world, arrest a guy on fake/unprovable charges... and ... uhm... nothing else is going on?

riiiiiiiight.


all you morons with assumptions about what happened should have to spend a few years in a 3rd world shithole to understand how little you really know about the world and how things work in other countries.

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No matter where you are in the world this just proves you need then doc's
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in some countries implying the girl is under 18 is enough for a cp charge, even if the girl is over 18. those of you that think having 2257 docs is some magic key out of this mess need a reality check.
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right you wont be charged for not having "2257" if they don't have a law on the books for it, but the problem isn't getting a 2257 violation, its getting arressted for cp and not having age docs on file to prove your innocence. If they don't require 2257 type laws and the individual then decides not to carry age docs because he feels its not required, if he gets accused of cp he is screwed since he cant prove it.

The above situation is for a primary producer, what if you are an affiliate and the company says they have 2257 (age docs) but their country doesn't require it so they basically lie to you and just say they have it, then you get arrested for cp, try to contact that company for help and they say "opps".
This is where third party record keeping could help out. If the program doesnt want to give out the docs, fine. Store them with the third party record keeper and they should only be released to the affiliate in case of emergency and or inspection depending on where the affiliate is located.

At least the affiliate knows that they records are there and they do not need to depend on a program to access them if there is a problem.

www.2257Safe.com just got contacted by a webmaster in Brazil over this very issue Apparently things are getting hot in Brazil over docs and CP.
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omg pf69 this is so fucked up, and in Brazil?, and these sponsors are very well known, this is so fucked up
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omg pf69 this is so fucked up, and in Brazil?, and these sponsors are very well known, this is so fucked up
TeenRevenue uses Brazillian girls ... so this is more than fucked up.. it's completely ironic.
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Not a fan of using the word teen on porn sites unless there is a specific age qualifier that makes it clear pretty much in the same sentance they are not under 18.
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porn bothers some people period. if the entire industry never said it ever again there would just be a new "word" that was taboo
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I wonder if he was the hotlinker....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=939273

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:12 PM   #40
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:53 PM   #42
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:06 PM   #43
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right you wont be charged for not having "2257" if they don't have a law on the books for it, but the problem isn't getting a 2257 violation, its getting arressted for cp and not having age docs on file to prove your innocence. If they don't require 2257 type laws and the individual then decides not to carry age docs because he feels its not required, if he gets accused of cp he is screwed since he cant prove it.

The above situation is for a primary producer, what if you are an affiliate and the company says they have 2257 (age docs) but their country doesn't require it so they basically lie to you and just say they have it, then you get arrested for cp, try to contact that company for help and they say "opps".

BTW, in some countries people get killed for missunderstandings by the police
They can arrest you, but without 2257 requirements or similar, then the burden of proof is not yours. Sure, documents available right away would put an end to that situation, but I would still say it's bad police work if they only base their charges on assumptions. That can't be used in courts.

I would also expect some co-operation accross borders, when dealing with such serious accusations. For instance, if a payserve model was "cleared", why the hell waist time on hunting affiliates if they already know her age in Europe vice versa? I bet Interpol and FBI has bigger databases than any affiliate or program, but they are not going to tell us that

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Old 11-22-2009, 05:14 PM   #44
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ok.. so some of the most corrupt police in the world, arrest a guy on fake/unprovable charges... and ... uhm... nothing else is going on?

riiiiiiiight.


all you morons with assumptions about what happened should have to spend a few years in a 3rd world shithole to understand how little you really know about the world and how things work in other countries.
Yes, unfortunately some places are not about laws, but how much money you can pay the police (or military).
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This also points out the risks that affiliates take by not having age docs on file. But when it comes to CP, you don't have to host it, if you link to it you can get in trouble. That is a lot of trust that all of the companies will be able to provide 2257 documents on all of the models in question to bail you out. If they missed one, or don't have any to provide then I would think your defense just got shot.

I made a post about this a week or so ago and most people replied " know what is on your server". Sounds like this case he was just linking to it and didnt have any of the pictures on his server ?
So you re saying we should manually review every single model (docs) appearing on a Paysite that we promote?
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I wonder if he was the hotlinker....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=939273

Makes you think he?

Thanks for sharing this thread, i overlooked it, was not on the office. Now i am reading it, and even 20 cups of coffee dont give the effect in my head that this fool gives me after reading his post.
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