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Nicky 12-07-2009 04:43 AM

thousand fiddy with interest.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-07-2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16621700)
while you're at it, should of posted, We're on the Road to nowhere:winkwink:





Road to nowhere?

Two of us riding nowhere?!?



ADG

ShellyCrash 12-07-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16621513)
Is that in your TOS or are you just from Tampa Bay? :winkwink:

ADG

Don't hate on the bay area just because Dirty D's in it. :winkwink:

acrylix 12-07-2009 06:28 AM

I read the thread. Pretty fucking unbelievable. Here's a bump for ya. Nice to see so many coming together to help out a fellow webmaster who's owed money.

This year has been a bad one for non-paying/late-paying, shady programs.

http://i48.tinypic.com/t0l0fs.jpg

BVF 12-07-2009 07:13 AM

So if one can't buy the exact domain name spelling and promote crackwhore confessions then I assume the affiliate that runs http://crackwhoreconfessions.dk/ isn't getting anything either.

xxweekxx 12-07-2009 07:18 AM

lol.. wow 22 pages? jeez

will76 12-07-2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 16621663)
Honestly I don't know where you're coming from. Do you think I haven't been monitoring the traffic & sales generated by Google for the past 5 years? I'm one the one that built that brand from the ground up.

Nobody else. I'm not squatting the name. The brand simply didn't exist before I bought it. Now, it does. Now it's a fucking BRAND.

Do you understand what I'm saying? In the first 3 weeks of that domains life, it did not receive any searches for the term "ghetto thugs", but regardless I had the #1 spot for that term. Now, after I began promoting it... the searches started increasing rapidly. Do you think the brand built itself?

You're an idiot. :2 cents:

lol :1orglaugh:helpme

L-Pink 12-07-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16621922)
Don't hate on the bay area just because Dirty D's in it. :winkwink:

Yea, there are some semi normal people in Tampa.




.

CaptainHowdy 12-07-2009 08:31 AM

Shoehorn, send your sig in form of an avatar and I'll put it up in support: [email protected] ...

Forest 12-07-2009 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16622188)
Yea, there are some semi normal people in Tampa.




.

only 2 that i know of

letitride 12-07-2009 08:38 AM

bump for the honest, creative webmaster.

Dirty D 12-07-2009 09:27 AM

I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

XD2 12-07-2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16622051)
So if one can't buy the exact domain name spelling and promote crackwhore confessions then I assume the affiliate that runs http://crackwhoreconfessions.dk/ isn't getting anything either.

I already grassed them up earlier in the thread then sent them a fruit basket w/ pomegranate.

xxweekxx 12-07-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method? that means anyone that uses PPC gets banned? what kind of idiot are you

cybersquatting is buying similar domains to profit of it, example buying Googol.com and placing ads on it and banking off googles traffic, thats not what shoe horn did.. heck HE even sent traffic to you..

google wont complain if i sent all my gogol.com traffic straight to Google.com

you are the retard.. your brain cells have been fried by public masturbation and coke

XD2 12-07-2009 09:36 AM

I have also solved the Mystery of why this whole non-payment thing is going on. It is all right here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...%20Confessions

You see he's site is actually real with real crack whores, so all the money is spent on their drugs :-\

It is ok to cash in on desperate crack whores for porn, but Google PPC campaigns are just out of order :)

ExtremeBank_Adam 12-07-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16621618)
Add extremebank to the 'do not promote in search engines' list.

God forbid you outrank him one day for his own domain search, that will be the last sale you see.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's also not what I said. In fact, if someone is able to outrank me with organic results, then they deserve to be there and get paid for it.

But, that's different than simply buying a spot above me to purposely siphon some of my own traffic that was coming to me anyway.

Luscious Media 12-07-2009 09:41 AM

Would sending the traffic here be wrong?

http://www.hotmovies.com/search.php?...+conf essions

...or how about here?

http://www.hotmovies.com/search.php?...ds=crack+whore

katharos 12-07-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

fucking idiot ... if you dont have it in your tos it means its not forbidden. you are fucking with honest webmasters. i say fuck off you ego bitch, long time i have seen ignorant fucker as you. is it money that makes a total piece of human shit and trash from you? karma works, hope you will cry at the end, fucking asshole ... fuck off again, im speechless and i am happy there are not so much motherfuckers as you ... fucking bitch, FUCK OFF MISTER DIRTY SHIT!

SuzzyQ 12-07-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

Shakes head in disbelief...

brand0n 12-07-2009 09:44 AM

wait wait wait..

now hes a cyber squatter lol.

dude are you featured on your site?

put down the pipe dude.. srsly.

NetHorse 12-07-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

Can someone beat the shit out of this broke dick faggot and get it on video? I'll paypal whoever does it $477. :1orglaugh

xxweekxx 12-07-2009 09:51 AM

yeah i LOLed on the cyber squatter accusation too.lol

Dirty D 12-07-2009 09:54 AM

Cybersquatting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Cybersquatting (also known as domain squatting), according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.

The term is derived from "squatting," which is the act of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use. Cybersquatting, however, is a bit different in that the domain names that are being "squatted" are (sometimes but not always) being paid for through the registration process by the cybersquatters. Cybersquatters usually ask for prices far greater than that at which they purchased it. Some cybersquatters put up derogatory remarks about the person or company the domain is meant to represent in an effort to encourage the subject to buy the domain from them.[citation needed] Others post paid links via Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and other paid advertising networks to the actual site that the user likely wanted, thus monetizing their squatting. As with many controversial issues, some argue that the dividing line of cybersquatting is difficult to draw, or that the practice is consistent with a capitalistic and free market ethos.

Cybersquatting is one of the most loosely used terms related to domain name intellectual property law and is often incorrectly used to refer to the sale or purchase of generic domain names.

---

Otherwise known as a Shady Shoehorn - lol

Tom_PM 12-07-2009 09:54 AM

If redtennisshoes.com doesnt want me bidding for "red tennis shoes", then redtennisshoes.com has to tell me. Because guess what is the most logical, targetted, relevant advertising term you could use for "red tennis shoes"? red tennis shoes.

That'll be all.

fmltube 12-07-2009 09:54 AM

I smell trouble in bromerica.

fmltube 12-07-2009 09:56 AM

Does D even own a trademark for his sites?

katharos 12-07-2009 09:57 AM

http://www.netace.com/lotus/images/Powerful_Toys.JPG

"fuck off bitches i have car and bike!"

fmltube 12-07-2009 10:00 AM

Is this the same guy we are talking about?

http://www.********.com/read.php?ID=31663

ExtremeBank_Adam 12-07-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16621573)
But this one point i just can't get past " Bidding on search terms is fine with me. Bidding on the EXACT spelling of my domain name is not. "

And if I am not your affiliate, is it ok for me to bid on your EXACT spelling of your domain name? You can say no, but so what? You can't not pay someone who isn't sending the traffic to you in the first place. I made several points about this, you skipped over them and didn't even try to respond to it.

So, I'll address it now...

If you're not my affiliate, then how can I police it? But, that's the complete opposite of what's happened here. The fact is, if someone bids on my exact domain spelling to try and siphon traffic away from me and to their own site, do you really think it will work to their advantage?

If someone types in "naughtyalysha", you have to agree that they are specifically looking for her website, or something that has to do with her website (review site, free content, etc.), right? So, what good would it do to have a link to a completely different site.

In my own example, do you really believe that DenniO.com is going to benefit from having a paid link to our site?

CaptainHowdy 12-07-2009 10:16 AM

Now that I think of it, it must be someway somehow "a rush" to promote a program with invisible TOS violations...

Axeman 12-07-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Cyber Squatting describes the Shady Shoehorn technique that is forbidden.

Shoehorn the CyberSquatter knows that affiliate programs don't allow this, so he lied to me about his traffic sources.

I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain. Figure it out.

You'd be better off just admitting you fell on hard times and spent your money up your nose, than to try and rationalize your non paying with utter bs like this.

Pay the man in installment plans like he offered. Update your TOS and hope that you get a few people to still send you traffic.

ExtremeBank_Adam 12-07-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 16622565)
In my own example, do you really believe that DenniO.com is going to benefit from having a paid link to our site?

Sorry, that was a typo... I meant to say "do you really think DenniO.com will benefit from having a paid link to their site?"

Axeman 12-07-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16622510)
If redtennisshoes.com doesnt want me bidding for "red tennis shoes", then redtennisshoes.com has to tell me. Because guess what is the most logical, targetted, relevant advertising term you could use for "red tennis shoes"? red tennis shoes.

That'll be all.

Why you bringing logic into this Tom???

NetHorse 12-07-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622506)
Cybersquatting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Cybersquatting (also known as domain squatting), according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.

The term is derived from "squatting," which is the act of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use. Cybersquatting, however, is a bit different in that the domain names that are being "squatted" are (sometimes but not always) being paid for through the registration process by the cybersquatters. Cybersquatters usually ask for prices far greater than that at which they purchased it. Some cybersquatters put up derogatory remarks about the person or company the domain is meant to represent in an effort to encourage the subject to buy the domain from them.[citation needed] Others post paid links via Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and other paid advertising networks to the actual site that the user likely wanted, thus monetizing their squatting. As with many controversial issues, some argue that the dividing line of cybersquatting is difficult to draw, or that the practice is consistent with a capitalistic and free market ethos.

Cybersquatting is one of the most loosely used terms related to domain name intellectual property law and is often incorrectly used to refer to the sale or purchase of generic domain names.

---

Otherwise known as a Shady Shoehorn - lol


It doesn't matter you fucking scam artist. First of all it should have been in your TOS, you want to bring up the "United States Federal Law" yet you can't even fucking follow it. If this matter went to court YOU WOULD LOSE, under your contract, nowhere in your TOS does it say he can't bid on certain PPS terms. Second of all, if you had a problem with it you should have said something right away, instead you wanted to scam him for as much money as possible so you didn't say anything. Who in their right mind would do business with a piece of shit like you?

BRB, going to post, all your sites and the word scam on as many forums as I can. :)

NetHorse 12-07-2009 10:24 AM

LOL check it out, #3 on google. :)

http://www.hahahahahahahahahahaha.co...438#post241438

OH, I guess it won't let me post a link, but don't worry I'll get as much negative stuff as possible about the program and all the sites indexed.

BradM 12-07-2009 10:26 AM

Why is Dirty D ripping off his affiliates? Why does he change his TOS to suit his needs when he wants to take peoples money?

fmltube 12-07-2009 10:28 AM

Does that mean the $1 Million will not be distributed this year?

Varius 12-07-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16622516)
Does D even own a trademark for his sites?

According to TESS, no. However, that site isn't 100% accurate so he very well could, but you'd likely have to shell out a few hundred bucks to find out :)

xxweekxx 12-07-2009 10:30 AM

you dumb fuck cyber squatters SEND TRAFFIC TO OTHER SITES WHILE TRYING TO PROFIT OFF THE TRAFFIC OF THE SITE THEY ARE SQUATTING ON

THIS GUY SENT THE TRAFFIC TO YOUR WEBSITE! omg,


kids, dirty D is example of your brain on drugs, ok?

candyflip 12-07-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622506)
Cybersquatting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Cybersquatting (also known as domain squatting), according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.

The term is derived from "squatting," which is the act of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use. Cybersquatting, however, is a bit different in that the domain names that are being "squatted" are (sometimes but not always) being paid for through the registration process by the cybersquatters. Cybersquatters usually ask for prices far greater than that at which they purchased it. Some cybersquatters put up derogatory remarks about the person or company the domain is meant to represent in an effort to encourage the subject to buy the domain from them.[citation needed] Others post paid links via Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and other paid advertising networks to the actual site that the user likely wanted, thus monetizing their squatting. As with many controversial issues, some argue that the dividing line of cybersquatting is difficult to draw, or that the practice is consistent with a capitalistic and free market ethos.

Cybersquatting is one of the most loosely used terms related to domain name intellectual property law and is often incorrectly used to refer to the sale or purchase of generic domain names.

---

Otherwise known as a Shady Shoehorn - lol

Your reading comprehension isn't that great. Your own example specifically describes monetizing a "cyber-squatted" domain by placing ads to the various networks you listed.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what Shoehorn did, no matter how much you want to believe you're right. You're failing even when it comes to defending what you're trying to do here.

candyflip 12-07-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16622632)
LOL check it out, #3 on google. :)

http://www.hahahahahahahahahahaha.co...438#post241438

OH, I guess it won't let me post a link, but don't worry I'll get as much negative stuff as possible about the program and all the sites indexed.


:error :error

SmokeyTheBear 12-07-2009 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I am swimming in a sea of RETARD.

thats what everyone is trying to tell you, you are alone in the sea of retard. hop out and join everyone else in the sea of reality

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

Facts: ripping off your affiliates also isn't in your TOS



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
Shoehorn knows that affiliate programs don't allow this

Most affiliate programs do allow this, those that don't implicitly state this in their TOS or they would be called out just as fast as you got called out.

Feel free to post the plethora of sites that don't allow this yet say nothing about it in their TOS
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
I tried to work with Shoehorn the CyberSquatter to improve his campaign and offered $100PPS instead of killing his account.

some might say in laymans terms you tried to blackmail him into forefeiting money he had already legally earned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16622377)
Shoehorn or anyone else, will NEVER be paid for searches that ONLY contain the exact spelling of my own domain.

You do realise it is your job to go to google and have your trademarked name removed right ? affiliates have no power to do this.

p.s. i see quite a few affiliates of yours getting paid for clicks from searches that "ONLY contain the exact spelling" of your domain

rabbitsreviews and many many others, i suppose you will be shitcanning them ? or are the rules kind of made up on the spot ?

will76 12-07-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 16622433)
I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's also not what I said. In fact, if someone is able to outrank me with organic results, then they deserve to be there and get paid for it.

But, that's different than simply buying a spot above me to purposely siphon some of my own traffic that was coming to me anyway.

and the person who pays for a SEO guy to make their site rank higher than yours, are they not purposely siphoning your own traffic that was coming to anyway? you see paying google and setting up ppc campaigns as different than paying someone to SEO a site. When in reality its the same thing. They both have the same agenda, to siphon your traffic, they both require work and money to accomplish. Google allows both to happen to you. At the end of the day its the same thing.

SmokeyTheBear 12-07-2009 10:53 AM

Just to get this clear, you dont allow adwords at all or any other ppc yet you dont state it at all in your tos, and furthermore you would seize an affiliates money if you found out they were using ppc even though you never said they can't ?

SuzzyQ 12-07-2009 10:56 AM

Has anyone else noticed that none of the 'Bros' have come to Dirty D's defense?.
That should say something.

SuzzyQ 12-07-2009 10:58 AM

Has anyone else noticed that none of the 'Bros' have come to Dirty D's defense?.
That should say something.

NetHorse 12-07-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16622665)
Your reading comprehension isn't that great. Your own example specifically describes monetizing a "cyber-squatted" domain by placing ads to the various networks you listed.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what Shoehorn did, no matter how much you want to believe you're right. You're failing even when it comes to defending what you're trying to do here.

I know, what a fucking moron. As if shoehorn was using his name to represent another entity or website. That might apply if shoehorn took his trademarked name and used it against him to promote another site. Instead shoehorn was making him money using his affiliate program following the rules in his own TOS. Seriously, someone just beat the shit out of this con artist.

Forest 12-07-2009 11:01 AM

has the drama llama shown up yet?

sounds like this is a job for him

NetHorse 12-07-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16622672)
:error :error

I'd try to post the link another way but I don't wanna piss off the mods. :1orglaugh They clearly don't want that site referenced here. The good thing is it gets spidered into google, so I'll be giving them a lot of negative rep today.

nation-x 12-07-2009 11:09 AM

I back Dirty D on this one... anyone bidding on keywords that are type-in keywords (type it in the address bar and get the site) are stealing type-ins pure and simple. Any affiliate with any experience knows that programs don't allow it... I have been an affiliate for years. If you did that to my program you would be terminated immediately the same as if you were sharing passwords. It's not in our TOS but I have the right to terminate any affiliate at any time and am not obligated to pay for sales that weren't earned fairly. The pure sense entitlement that affiliates have grown over the last few years is insane. You want PPS but also want to fuck programs out of type-ins... be realistic.

I probably have more affiliate traffic that 9 out of 10 of you.... just FYI. I don't have to resort to stealing type-ins to get sales.


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