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spacedog · 12-03-2009, 10:01 PM

Any ccbill or epoch sponsors that move zombaio to primary, I'm dropping

x-rate · 12-03-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyHoe

oh and fyi stick to talking french your English skills leave little to be desired for.

So when we meet? I'll help you to understand english and you help me to write it!

Les Grossman · 12-04-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas

If you want to try us out, use us as first processor in a cascade for one of your small sites. This way you get a fair result of what we can do for you. Placing us back in the cascade will give any processor alot of declines and bad business.

We are all here to make money, we will help you SAVE and MAKE money, but not back in the cascade!

We are going to be using you for all our internal traffic.

xenigo · 12-04-2009, 02:27 AM

Tomas... your explanation makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

I just wasn't sure what this was all about when I first read the email.

NetHorse · 12-04-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Some of the replies in these threads make me laugh.

You want the 4.9%, but you think they are being unfair asking to be first?

They are a business just like you, or like you should be running things, and they have to do cost control as well. Being dead last on your China traffic just to incur costs for your cheap ass is insane.

If you do not want to use them because you are a cheap ass, that's fine. But wanting them to be 3rd, or 4th, on your cascade for your declines and running up costs, but still demanding a 4.9% processing rate is ridiculous.

Even at 9%, they are lower than most other processors.

Some of the way people, supposedly in this industry, answer these threads is very telling of how they run their business, or hobby. Absolutely no business sense on either side of the issue, yet expecting endless free fucking handouts.

Unbelievable.

+1, get real people.

They may have a stupid name with a bunch of random letters, but I agree with their position on this..:D

kmanrox · 12-04-2009, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas

9% if you choose to have Zombaio back in the cascade. But if you put us first and restore your rate just to put us back again, we may terminate the account. I'm not saying we will, but this way we have the right.

that sounds kind of like a dick-move bro

Tjeezers · 12-04-2009, 04:48 AM

Pretty logical.

ArsewithClass · 12-04-2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cjhmdm

Damn some of you bitch and whine too much...

We're very happy with Zombaio, this update doesn't affect us.. back to what matters... making money!

Zombaio shouldnt worry about the cpl of folks bitching & whining. You always get a cpl of idots on a forum. The funny thing is, it always seems to be the same people on every forum!

Its only because of these idiots in this business, that companies like Zombaio have to set TOS like this!

Great to hear for someone that uses them. Finding their service reputable & that this would not effect you!

Hit me up anytime zombaio!

lagcam · 12-04-2009, 05:12 AM

I have no problem with this whatsoever and think it makes good business sense for Zombaio to tighten this up. I WANT processors I use to run their businesses properly and efficiently because I want them to stay in business.

We have all seen enough processors who didn't.

The alternative for Zombaio is for them to start charging decline fees and I for one don't want that.

lazzlo · 12-04-2009, 05:39 AM

I wish people used Zombaio. I only use one sponser that uses them as primary and stats are great.

xxxman2 · 12-04-2009, 05:54 AM

I love zombaio except their affiliate system, I am happy with their rate.

The Duck · 12-04-2009, 06:56 AM

Makes sense to me.

ArsewithClass · 12-04-2009, 07:21 AM

As said,

Zombaio, hit me up!

lazerbunny · 12-04-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas

This is simply added to the agreement because there are big networks that are using us in the 3rd or 4th place of the cascade. This means that we got basically just orders that several other processors has rejected (often for good reasons). This means that the transactions we see on that specific account is 95% or more declines, which we have costs for. With this clause we have a legal way to terminate those merchants - or at least give them a chanse to put us higher up in the cascade.

makes sense to me.
seems pretty reasonable.

CS-Jay · 12-04-2009, 11:35 AM

Makes sense to me.

Tomas, can you hit me up when you have a chance?

Thanks,
Jay

signupdamnit · 12-04-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas

This is easy... we have huge networks that are banging us with bad transactions that we have to pay transaction fees for to our acquirers (even if declined). If we shall be able to keep low rates for the customers that actually wants to use us, we need to take care of this matter. And this is the way we do it.

If we would charge you 10-15% this would not be a issue.

Then why not say if declines exceed X% then the new rate is Y% OR impose a small decline fee?

Varius · 12-04-2009, 11:53 AM

I'm not sure why you guys make things so complicated. If I was Zombaio, here is what I would do:

- Charge whatever discount rate (%) they currently charge

- Charge a fee per decline, let's say it's 25 cents.

- Not worry about where you are in anyone's cascade since you are passing the decline fee you incur along to the merchant.

Simple, effective, no drama.

Barefootsies · 12-04-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I'm not sure why you guys make things so complicated. If I was Zombaio, here is what I would do:

- Charge whatever discount rate (%) they currently charge

- Charge a fee per decline, let's say it's 25 cents.

- Not worry about where you are in anyone's cascade since you are passing the decline fee you incur along to the merchant.

Simple, effective, no drama.

Yep. Always easy to say what you would do, and agree that it is unfair, when it's not your business, or other people running up a tab on it.

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Then why not say if declines exceed X% then the new rate is Y% OR impose a small decline fee?

Or make added complexities on your end of the business to solve a problem which is created by people lying about where you fall on the cascade after a 4.9% hook up.

Brad Mitchell · 12-04-2009, 12:12 PM

Good for them, that makes total sense. At 9% they are still a huge savings over other companies and I can't blame them for charging more to be 2-3-4th in a cascade.

Brad

PR_Raul · 12-04-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Make me think of,,,,

hey where did u get a picture of my cousin?

Varius · 12-04-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Yep. Always easy to say what you would do, and agree that it is unfair, when it's not your business, or other people running up a tab on it.

I never said it's unfair; I just think it's a bad business model compared to charging a set decline fee.

Charging a decline fee per transaction is extremely easy to do - most merchant accounts and gateways have been charging them for many, many years

Barefootsies · 12-04-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I never said it's unfair; I just think it's a bad business model compared to charging a set decline fee.

Charging a decline fee per transaction is extremely easy to do - most merchant accounts and gateways have been charging them for many, many years

Hi.

I quoted you out of convenience. Wasn't bashing you personally.

Sorry for the confusion ace.

georgeyw · 12-04-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas

Hi Billy,
I don't actually agree that I am talking in circles, I'm very straight here. If we are not first in the cascade, we have the legal right to enforce a 9% rate on your account, simple as that. If you choose to abuse this by repeatedly say that we are no 1 in the cascade to get your 4.9% back, and we are not, we have (after repeatedly abuse from you) right to terminate your agreement.

You are not rolling any dice, it's 100% up to you!

I think Zombaio needs to invest some money in sending you to a customer service course.

12-04-2009, 04:48 AM	#57
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12-04-2009, 05:12 AM	#59
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	I have no problem with this whatsoever and think it makes good business sense for Zombaio to tighten this up. I WANT processors I use to run their businesses properly and efficiently because I want them to stay in business. We have all seen enough processors who didn't. The alternative for Zombaio is for them to start charging decline fees and I for one don't want that. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

12-04-2009, 05:39 AM	#60
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12-04-2009, 06:56 AM	#62
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	Makes sense to me. __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

12-04-2009, 11:35 AM	#65
CS-Jay Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Command Central, West Palm Beach, Fl Posts: 1,794	Makes sense to me. Tomas, can you hit me up when you have a chance? Thanks, Jay __________________ I do stuff - aIm CS_Jay_D

12-03-2009, 10:01 PM	#51
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Any ccbill or epoch sponsors that move zombaio to primary, I'm dropping

12-04-2009, 02:27 AM	#54
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Tomas... your explanation makes sense. Thanks for explaining. I just wasn't sure what this was all about when I first read the email.

12-04-2009, 05:54 AM	#61
xxxman2 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 61	I love zombaio except their affiliate system, I am happy with their rate.

12-04-2009, 07:21 AM	#63
ArsewithClass So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,957	As said, Zombaio, hit me up!

12-04-2009, 11:53 AM	#67
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	I'm not sure why you guys make things so complicated. If I was Zombaio, here is what I would do: - Charge whatever discount rate (%) they currently charge - Charge a fee per decline, let's say it's 25 cents. - Not worry about where you are in anyone's cascade since you are passing the decline fee you incur along to the merchant. Simple, effective, no drama. __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

12-04-2009, 12:12 PM	#69
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Good for them, that makes total sense. At 9% they are still a huge savings over other companies and I can't blame them for charging more to be 2-3-4th in a cascade. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999