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Old 12-13-2009, 08:43 PM   #51
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:51 PM   #52
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everyone who is not making money hate the tubes
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #53
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you wish chocker, hahahaha

where do you come up with this shit?

seriously

i'm not going to keep repeating myself, you're really not worth it and it's obvious you are talking shit (as usual)

go back to spamming fuckers with dating site joins
Your the idiot that came in my thread bashing me, if I'm not worth it why do you stalk me on this board? Hate to see someone busting their ass and doing more than buying a $999 camcorder shooting 25 scenes and calling it a network of paysites like you did? lol Post stats of yur largest affilaite asswipe, your shit is so good let's see who promotes your shitty rip off network. I've never seen a single post about the mega bvbucks program from anyone other than YOU. Who promotes this incredible network with it's whopping 25 hours of movies? lol
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:00 PM   #54
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Your the idiot that came in my thread bashing me, if I'm not worth it why do you stalk me on this board? Hate to see someone busting their ass and doing more than buying a $999 camcorder shooting 25 scenes and calling it a network of paysites like you did? lol Post stats of yur largest affilaite asswipe, your shit is so good let's see who promotes your shitty rip off network. I've never seen a single post about the mega bvbucks program from anyone other than YOU. Who promotes this incredible network with it's whopping 25 hours of movies? lol
my shit is all over asswipe, just look for yourself.

you don't know how though, do you?

what a fucking tool.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:06 PM   #55
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:07 PM   #56
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my shit is all over asswipe, just look for yourself.

you don't know how though, do you?

what a fucking tool.
All over where? Why don't some of your affiliates post their stats? After I make my tube site using your content I'll post my stats of the prepaid ad deals I already made. Bet my tube site will make more money with your content than your own paysites make. lol
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All over where? Why don't some of your affiliates post their stats? After I make my tube site using your content I'll post my stats of the prepaid ad deals I already made. Bet my tube site will make more money with your content than your own paysites make. lol
Go ahead, my lawyer will be back from vacation after the 1st of the year.

Shoot me the url when your finished if you don't mind.

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Old 12-13-2009, 09:38 PM   #58
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Shoot me the url when your finished if you don't mind.

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"My lawyer". So now your such a player you have your own lawyer? I love when people say "My lawyer" as if they have a lawyer fulltime who does nothing but wait on their phone calls. Don't worry dude you don't have enough content to fill up even 1 page on a tube site. Your crap is not even good enough to put on a tube site.

Where's those big whale affiliates of yours at? Let's see some stats.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:29 PM   #59
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1. Gallery submitters.

2. Affiliates who depend solely on signups to programs they promote.

3. Big programs that use their content to sell other products besides porn site memberships.

4. Big programs that dont use thier content to sell other products.

5. Small programs with like 50 full scenes in their members area who were lucky to have ever gotten a single paying member anyway.

6. Dating and webcam sites.

7. Old time TGP's and MGP's who's Alexa ratings looks like a falling rock.

I vote for #5, the small programs that have jack shit for content in their sites.
ive been trying to get ahaold of you for weeks now, i still cant login
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:33 PM   #60
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Agreed!

If Brazzers wants and can do there own tube site with knowledge that they can make lots of money from their porn sites still. Well.... Its only a little competition.

Id rather not have the free porn to compete with, however, for my content, you have to come to my sites.
all the cash they spent on ads coulda went to create their own decent tube site.
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Reminds me of the Choker vs Sleazy episodes we had here 3 years ago. BV is even acting the part well with the "Chocker" references
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LOL, ok man I guess I dreamed about this DMCA shit then.


Oh sure they pull it down. Then, they put more back up. And call it "user submitted". Funny how the users never upload Brazzer content, huh?

Hey Choker -- I'm not attacking you BTW my bro. I have nothing against you. In fact, I've done biz with you in the past. It's just that this whole Tube debate makes me ill.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:21 PM   #63
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Reminds me of the Choker vs Sleazy episodes we had here 3 years ago. BV is even acting the part well with the "Chocker" references
Yeah but BV is a amateur compared to Sleazydream. BV is only known because he posts here. At least Sleazydream had a site that was worth something and was known of outside of this board.
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Oh sure they pull it down. Then, they put more back up. And call it "user submitted". Funny how the users never upload Brazzer content, huh?

Hey Choker -- I'm not attacking you BTW my bro. I have nothing against you. In fact, I've done biz with you in the past. It's just that this whole Tube debate makes me ill.
It's all good man, i share your disgust, I wished we could go back to the days of 10 second clips but we can't. My point is iregardless of what we know about the big tube sites they are following the law. If they were not they could be shut down. In court it doesn't matter what you know, it's what you can prove. So as far as the law is concerned until as such time as someone proves they are breaking the law, they are not.
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Yeah but BV is a amateur compared to Sleazydream. BV is only known because he posts here. At least Sleazydream had a site that was worth something and was known of outside of this board.
bitch get your head out of your ass

if you don't know what i'm known for then you are living under a rock

i was contributing to this industry on many boards, writing video capture tutorials, you name it, content i shot is on dozens of wet t-shirt paysites in some of the largest programs out there

And I accomplished all that while you were still driving a cab!

Fuckface, eat shit.
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if you don't know what i'm known for then you are living under a rock

i was contributing to this industry on many boards, writing video capture tutorials, you name it, content i shot is on dozens of wet t-shirt paysites in some of the largest programs out there

And I accomplished all that while you were still driving a cab!

Fuckface, eat shit.
Wow sounds like I hit a nerve eh? Don't get your depends in a wad old man. Chill out, sit down watch some Andy Griffith, soak your dentures in a glass of whatever you soak then in and have your dog bring you your slippers.
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It's all good man, i share your disgust, I wished we could go back to the days of 10 second clips but we can't. My point is iregardless of what we know about the big tube sites they are following the law. If they were not they could be shut down. In court it doesn't matter what you know, it's what you can prove. So as far as the law is concerned until as such time as someone proves they are breaking the law, they are not.
Dude. YES THEY ARE.

I don't know why you'd say this...or why you'd think it. They are pirates. THE END. It's the same shit that's going on with Pirate Bay.

The worst pill to swallow? Shut them down and they're up! It's as simple as that.

Here's my take -- it's all about tangibles versus intangibles. It's that simple. Human nature. If you can't feel it, and if you don't have to shove it down your pants and walk out of the store with it, people are OK with taking it for free. Especially when it's "porn"...cause, after all, we're "the bad guys" and it's OK to take from bad people.

When I taught English and the whole Napster v. Metallica thing was going down, I had tons of students who argued again Metallica. The arguments ranged from "they've made enough money" to "we're just fans sharing our enthusiasm for great music!"

I kid you not.

And guess what? Napster -- in that incarnation -- was piracy.

THE END.

Someone needs to open a "Brazzer's Tube". Host it somewhere where no one gives a fuck. Allow "user uploads" only as long as they're Brzzer's scenes. Post a DMCA. Take them down when they bitch, then reload them once more.

Give those fuckers a taste of their own medicine.

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Dude. YES THEY ARE.

I don't know why you'd say this...or why you'd think it. They are pirates. THE END. It's the same shit that's going on with Pirate Bay.

The worst pill to swallow? Shut them down and they're up! It's as simple as that.

Here's my take -- it's all about tangibles versus intangibles. It's that simple. Human nature. If you can't feel it, and if you don't have to shove it down your pants and walk out of the store with it, people are OK with taking it for free. Especially when it's "porn"...cause, after all, we're "the bad guys" and it's OK to take from bad people.

When I taught English and the whole Napster v. Metallica thing was going down, I had tons of students who argued again Metallica. The arguments ranged from "they've made enough money" to "we're just fans sharing our enthusiasm for great music!"

I kid you not.

And guess what? Napster -- in that incarnation -- was piracy.

THE END.

Someone needs to open a "Brazzer's Tube". Host it somewhere where no one gives a fuck. Allow "user uploads" only as long as they're Brzzer's scenes. Post a DMCA. Take them down when they bitch, then reload them once more.

Give those fuckers a taste of their own medicine.
What law are they breaking man? As long as they comply with dmca takedown what law are they breaking? Again I'm not defending anyone I'm jsut saying that they are not breaking the law if they follow DMCA takedown. What law are you refering to? If there was a clear cut law they were breaking they would have been taken down a long time ago. Current DMCA laws are a fucking joke, they enable sites to pirate and get away with it.

And for the record I have always FORBIDDEN my kids from downloading any songs online for free. It is stealing short and simple. Hacked programs? I don't fucking think so, I pay $35 for ftp pro license when there's thousands of hacked copies flying around. Pirated videos? Not in my house, if it's not on cable it doesnt get watched. 75% of the guys crying about tubes have 1000 or more priated songs on their computer they downloaded.
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EXACTLY, if your gonna compete in today's market you better have a minimum of 10k movies. The day's of buying 30 scenes throwing a site and affiliate program together in a day then making bank are in the past.
Or you can promote unique fetish sites. I get sales based on 'impulse buys' not "OMG, what a value".
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EXACTLY, if your gonna compete in today's market you better have a minimum of 10k movies.
Chocker,

You better notify the following site owners and tell them that they don't have enough movie content either, and that there is no way they can compete in today's market:

FTV: 2780 Movies
MET ART: 597 movies
TEEN DREAMS: 1624 movies
NUBILES: 4310 Movies
TWISTYS: 2930 Movies

Let's quit attacking and start showing facts.

So let me get this straight.
You feel that the above sites do not have enough content compete in todays market.

Hell, all of them combined barely have enough to equal your 10,000 movie benchmark.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some gooood sheeet!

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I didnt say anything about theft, but as long as a tube site follows the law, which really fucking sucks, they are not stealing in the eyes of the law.
Of course they are stealing, but the laws are setup in such a way, that it makes impossible for them to get caught...
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tsk tsk tsk ... ya think i wud have purchased using my GFY handle? oh boy ... sleep on
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You better notify the following site owners and tell them that they don't have enough movie content either, and that there is no way they can compete in today's market:

FTV: 2780 Movies
MET ART: 597 movies
TEEN DREAMS: 1624 movies
NUBILES: 4310 Movies
TWISTYS: 2930 Movies

Let's quit attacking and start showing facts.

So let me get this straight.
You feel that the above sites do not have enough content compete in todays market.

Hell, all of them combined barely have enough to equal your 10,000 movie benchmark.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some gooood sheeet!

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Old man I was exagerating of course, you on the other hand with your 50 movies don't have a chance, that's why you hate tubes so much and for some reason you think I encourage illegal tubes therefore you hate my guts. Tube sites have ruined you right? Your really creepy old man. I think I know what your deal is though, Your mad that a cab driver could do just as good if not better than you in this business. You do keep mentioning the fact that I used to drive a cab. You call me baldy and make fun of the fact that i had hair surgery. Your presonal attacks are what people do when they have no real ammo. I guess the fact that a cab driver could do better in this business than you, and in fact now that your failing and being phased out of business while that same cab driver is still chugging on, that's gotta make your self worth very low. This explains your stalking me. You spent how much time finding out how many movies each of these sites had so you could "get back at me". Wow dude your beyond creepy, get some help old geeser.
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You spent how much time finding out how many movies each of these sites had so you could "get back at me".
lol, About 30 seconds. On Rabbits.

You really don't know how to do shit do you?

All you know is how to make a quick buck.

Don't flatter yourself trying to think I'm stalking you. haha give me a break. You sound like such a fool.

I just fucking hate your business ethics. Your trades are trading with illegal tube sites. Fuck You.

BTW, If I am an old man then so are you. Pretty sure we are the same age if I remember correctly.

Anyways, I am not going to go on any more with you here. You get proved wrong again and again and you just change your story.

You are all bullshit and not worth any more of my time this evening.

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lol, About 30 seconds. On Rabbits.

You really don't know how to do shit do you?

All you know is how to make a quick buck.

Don't flatter yourself trying to think I'm stalking you. haha give me a break. You sound like such a fool.

I just fucking hate your business ethics. Your trades are trading with illegal tube sites. Fuck You.

BTW, If I am an old man then so are you. Pretty sure we are the same age if I remember correctly.

Anyways, I am not going to go on any more with you here. You get proved wrong again and again and you just change your story.

You are all bullshit and not worth any more of my time this evening.

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You hate my business ethnics because supposedly my trades are trading with illegal tube sites? Um ok. lol I hate your business ethnics you rip surfers off with your shitty sites. They never again pay for porn after getting ripped by you. Go away this is getting old
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Do you have a history of doing chargebacks?
ive never made any chargebacks. i use epassporte, you cant make chargebacks with epassporte.
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What law are they breaking man? As long as they comply with dmca takedown what law are they breaking? Again I'm not defending anyone I'm jsut saying that they are not breaking the law if they follow DMCA takedown. What law are you refering to? If there was a clear cut law they were breaking they would have been taken down a long time ago. Current DMCA laws are a fucking joke, they enable sites to pirate and get away with it.
I'll concur.
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someone tried to login with my id, i need this fixed dude
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someone tried to login with my id, i need this fixed dude
either fix my login or gimme back my 25 bucks
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Continue on this path and I'll have to post how the same person who charged back money also logged into your account. Explain that. Your account is banned for fraudulent activity.
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Dude. YES THEY ARE.

I don't know why you'd say this...or why you'd think it. They are pirates. THE END. It's the same shit that's going on with Pirate Bay.

The worst pill to swallow? Shut them down and they're up! It's as simple as that.

Here's my take -- it's all about tangibles versus intangibles. It's that simple. Human nature. If you can't feel it, and if you don't have to shove it down your pants and walk out of the store with it, people are OK with taking it for free. Especially when it's "porn"...cause, after all, we're "the bad guys" and it's OK to take from bad people.

When I taught English and the whole Napster v. Metallica thing was going down, I had tons of students who argued again Metallica. The arguments ranged from "they've made enough money" to "we're just fans sharing our enthusiasm for great music!"

I kid you not.

And guess what? Napster -- in that incarnation -- was piracy.

THE END.

Someone needs to open a "Brazzer's Tube". Host it somewhere where no one gives a fuck. Allow "user uploads" only as long as they're Brzzer's scenes. Post a DMCA. Take them down when they bitch, then reload them once more.

Give those fuckers a taste of their own medicine.
your ignoring the fact that users could submitting brazzers stuff to their tubes, but when the people issueing the take down notices are 10 feet away from the guys accepting submission it not hard to have it instantaniously taken down.

try submitting xxxjays content to xxxjays tube site and see how quickly it disappears

your solution would open a huge liablity that would easily get you sued into oblivion
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Continue on this path and I'll have to post how the same person who charged back money also logged into your account. Explain that. Your account is banned for fraudulent activity.
well thats impossible to do with epassporte. Explain that.
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FUCK YOU. Back in 2005 you charged back a $25 and a $50 credit card payment. Each charge back I think the fee was $50 each so you owe me $175
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well thats impossible to do with epassporte. Explain that.
You used myvirtual card you sent two payments one for $25 one for $50 you charged them both back.

2005-08-25 50.00
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You are a scammer and besides I dont owe you $25 your orders were paid off of your most recent account. Stay away from my site don't make a fourth account with me.
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Doctor Feelgood a scammer. good to know.
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He did indeed make 2 credit card payments thru the now defunct myvirtual card and charged them both back on me. Yep that's a scammer.
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You used myvirtual card you sent two payments one for $25 one for $50 you charged them both back.

2005-08-25 50.00
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You are a scammer and besides I dont owe you $25 your orders were paid off of your most recent account. Stay away from my site don't make a fourth account with me.
i not sure but i think calling someone a scammer is not allowed in here. so either post proof or be banned. you have one hour.
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i not sure but i think calling someone a scammer is not allowed in here. so either post proof or be banned. you have one hour.
You know godamned well you charged back in 2005 two payments made thru myvirtualcard. You are a scammer and a thief. Proof I have is your real full name and credit card info, would you like me to post this here Robert?
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i not sure but i think calling someone a scammer is not allowed in here. so either post proof or be banned. you have one hour.
You also added exploits to your sites after you had them approved and had traffic going to them, but that's another story. What's a matter didn't expect your fraud from 5 years ago to ever be exposed? Karma mother fucker
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times up!

choker: so fucking banned!

good riddance
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choker: so fucking banned!

good riddance
Is your name Robert and did you make credit card purchases thru myvirtualcard back in 2005 then charge them back yes or no? You pushed me and pushed me in this thread to unlock your account I told you to not go there you insisted so I told you why your banned. It's that fucking simple
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