SleazyDream

still waiting on visa to approve....

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MrBottomTooth

If you are including me in your "hater's" category, I never said I hated it. Just expressed my opinion that it is unclear what is in the member's area. That seems to be the general consensus from anyone that has offered constructive criticism so far.

As for my business, I build free sites and blogs as an affiliate.

Agent 488

just my honest impression. sorry man when i see it and have no idea what the hell the site is about how the hell is a surfer going to know let alone whip out his cc?

i am not trolling just giving you my impression. you wont listen to any criticism except for small cosmetic changes so whatever

a little better sales text with a clearer call to action couldn't hurt.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Good luck Scott!

I see you have lots of wise and experienced people there behind you. That's important, both for support and for feedback.

Some observations I made which might help improve the site are:

• Correct spelling errors here and there.

• Perhaps a better light balance could be applied to the photos (or put them on a colored background, instead of a stark white background, so that the difference from girl-to-girl won't be as obvious).

• I would suggest a different logo (or at least eliminate the dot on the top of the logo).

My suggestion would be to use an animated gif of a traffic signal with the green light blinking YES, and have surfers click on the Yes signal to enter the site.

• Place some type of video on the first page after people click inside (an introductory video for example, such as a girl saying, "Hey guys, welcome to Yes Signals, where you are not only going to be entertained by hot, sexy girls, but as a bonus you are also going to learn the techniques which will help you increase your chances of getting that hot chick that you've had your eyes on..."

• Put a general warning on the landing page that it is an adult site (not simply another typical pick-up" site).

Until I opened a video, I didn't realize that it was going to have hardcore content (and that was my 5th or 6th random click - you need to hook the surfer faster than that, or they may surf away).

* Since there is hardcore content inside (I viewed a few videos), you need to get those 2257 disclaimers up (yes, even though you are Canadian, lol).

These aren't criticisms per se, so please don't take my comments the wrong way.

It's always good to get unbiased feedback.

Anyway, I see lots of marketing potential there.

Again, good luck...

ADG

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cherrylula

Thanks man, always a pleasure working with ya!

(fletch on the laptop, cherry was logged in, oooops)

BAKO

Great Success, do you still have your TGP?

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SleazyDream

the new join page will fix much of that...........

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redundant

Not that it probably really matters, but I just noticed that your basic images directory is open. You should put make that directory redirect to the main page via 404 or something.

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don't let ego get in the way where you ignore the haters. when it comes to conversions, always be testing.

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SleazyDream

url?

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MrBottomTooth

Yes, that is something that can be easily fixed. Otherwise it looks good.

SleazyDream

true there.......

it always amazes me though how when some people see something done differently they don't get it....

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Axeman

The join page should be where you re-affirm what you are giving them, not the place they first discover it. Many won't hit the join page to find out if they got no clue what it is exactly they are going to try to join. I would definitely provide some clear introduction text or video on the tour that lets them know exactly what the site is, and then re-affirm it to them on the new join page.

As a whole I would say its a unique concept to mix it with the porn angle and I got no idea if it will work or not, but I would definitely say the tour needs to be way more crisp. From taking the care to cutout the girls properly, right to the crispness of their images as a whole. A lot of them are blurry and look compressed from 2001.

Good luck though.

tical

wasn't enticed enough to click the videos

xxxdesign-net

I'd slash the price... $33.46 canadian will make people google the info for themselves imo... good luck

Agent 488

the point for you as a webmaster and salesman is to make me "get it."

your site doesn't make me "get it."

"get it?"

you have spent who knows how many hours with the concept and it is second nature to you. of course it seems obvious. a surfer coming across your site is not going to "get it."

but of course you will not listen and let your ego dictate your course. hope i am wrong and it makes you some $ as you are just looking for ego stroking not constructive criticism.

SleazyDream

thank you - very constructive criticism there.

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Mutt

like the concept - execution needs work.

good luck with it.

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stever

dude why not make the seduction videos trailers instead of full ones?

like show a bunch of signals and then fly like a movie player ad:
want to see what happens next in this video? join now
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ahoy

I am actually pretty confused like some others, what is this all about?

Do you honestly think people looking for true dating advice are going to get it from a couple porn videos and think that is how it really works?

Did you just take some random porn videos and when the girl touches the dude in it, that is suppose to be true dating advice?

I can't believe all the people seriously thought this was truly something great. You could take ANY porn flick and half those "yes signs" will be in every one of them. I will repeat, I am just very confused at what this site actually is.

Are people learning how to pick up pornstars?
Are the videos seriously suppose to be showing true dating/pick up advice?
Who is the "expert" giving this advice?
What is in the members area that is so special? Obviously if a girl "accidentally" touches my cock its a pretty good sign she is into me, I don't need to pay monthly to figure that out.
Is there a community aspect behind this?
Is this a crash course on how to act while performing in a porn? Or something that will truly work on REAL GIRLS?

Quite frankly I think you have been around the adult industry and porn girls far too long and have become jaded on what is true dating advice. This to me looks like some random amateur porn site that was thrown together in a few days with some low budget content.

Don't mean to be mean spirited, was just majorly let down after reading all the hype on it being so great. I wish you all the best with it and hope you succeed with it and can throw it all back in my face

shimmy2

good luck with it my man, just curious is your talent all canadians?

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Phil

I dont get it. Did you use those images on purpose to make it look like real amateur site?

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FabianC

I think we all agree the site needs some polishing ... But lets fast forward and say Scott drops $10-25k on a dope "2.0" design .. at the end of the day it's hard to swallow the $30/mo for "advice" and even more so for any type of videos as they can flap for free on 100's of tube sites.

Anyone who takes the time to read & wants to learn will just as easily spend time googling how to pick up girls or invest in eharmony or some shit like that where they'll pick up on wack chicks in their league.

I'm not slamming u Scott, just giving u shit to think about so that when the dust settles from the launch u have some constructive criticism to work off of. I'll be surprised if it does 50 "real" joins (not from webmasters testing their links, etc) over the next 6 months without working a better angle.

If you're as evil as you say u are you'll move ccbill to a secondary position and move away from the vanilla registration process (get creative with xsales by offering ur site free 4 life etc.). Throw in shit like geo-ip to entice the surfer with something that brings it home.

Keep it honest with ur people here and we'll help u out. Don't start busting lies with "oh man it's converting like crazy, wow people are making a killing, etc." cuz in the end it'll show and that'll be the end of that.

trevesty

this.

after working as a bartender/bouncer for a while, plus the music industry and playing bar shows.. most guys are absolutely fucking clueless.

as a bartender/bouncer, it was always hilarious to watch guys consistently fail on the same 30-40 way hot regulars 2-3 nights/week.

trevesty

also.. looks good. wish you the best man.

theking

I don't know what I was expecting...but it wasn't what you have presented. Right off I agree with all of the critiques that suggested you need to explain what the site is about and specifically what a member will find in the members area and why one should become a member. My response was "huh" wtf is this all about...and why would I want to be a member of this site. In my opinion the way it is now...it presents a very...very weak... incentive to join a very bad porn site.

I hope you work out some kinks and it works out for you...but as it is now...I don't know why anyone would join the site. Just stating my viewpoint...sorry.

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the design needs an upgrade..?

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ahoy

Man I wish watching PORN gave me the keys to unlocking the art of picking up all real girls, I would be a true cassanova at the ripe age of 12 and have it all figured out.

I didn't watch a full video, but are these videos actually made for yessignals? Or did you just take random low budget porn videos and splice in a "See how she touched her hair there then his leg?!" , insinuating it will lead to a full blown fucking for every guy it happens to?

HouseHead

looks cool... please update in a month or two

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SleazyDream

now it can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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SleazyDream

this is true- yet people still buy your sites and they get content stolen all the time

people still pay for dating sites yet can get it for free on POF

people still buy tons of PUA sites every day yet they can get most on google for free


on not big on creative billing scams - i like clean sites for buying. might not be the most profitable thing, but i can sleep at night....to each their own. I'm going to be adding cascading and more billing options very soon. Very happy with CCbill in primary...

planning on adding geo-ip ads very soon - can't do everything at once....

have you EVER known me to lie about sales? I usually keep pretty quiet about it overall to be honest....

as for design, I've made millions with crappy designs before.... testing will tell. i like it...


anyway -thank you for the input - I will be using some of it....

i don't listen to everything but i DO listen and take what i think is useful for me....

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slapass

Don't you also own a dating/porn site. So you have experience with an odd sales angle already. the feel is pretty similar on both of them.

xNetworx

That design needs work.

I'll just leave it at that.

Seriously tho, Good luck.

CunningStunt

Not trolling, just playing the devil's advocate:

Copywrite 2009

Have you even spellchecked the site? Copyright.

Stick to the same font throughout. The design looks a mess as it is, like 2002 hacked together html.

There's no clear message on what the site is all about, needs to be damn obvious to surfers the minute they land there.

This looks like another pick up artist site, but with videos to me. What's your USP? Why would people rebill? If by some miracle they actually learn how to pick up, why would they come back to view some cheesy videos - in case they forgot?

The best thing about it is the domain name.

How can you get Mastercard and Visa approval if you're bankrupt?

Vjo

Sleazy, congratz on your launch and I admire your trying to crossover and make it in the paysite game. Looks like a daunting task.

OK Cricisms:

I think you would be better with a long sales pitch (sleazy type writeup) for a site like this and then throw all this in the members area. Who cares that they get bigger vids in members area. It is not about the videos but about the knowledge you should be selling but are basicly giving free.

You know this is basicly a video book you are selling rather than a recurring website seems to me.

On the plus, good orig idea that if really honed could sell with very little competition so thats a big plus.

Best luck man. I'll send you a few hits. It's the kind of things surfers will be interested in. Will it sell? It could if you don't give away the same stuff in front of the members area as behind it.

[Edit] Yeah, agree with CS leave it at 60% cause rebills could be tough.

Congrats and good luck!

SleazyDream

mostly US and european

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Congrats , best of luck.

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looks good man..GL

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letitride

I get it. All the ballers that praised this earlier in the week are getting free text links at your TGP.

I'm not impressed. Good luck to you.

SleazyDream

lol - yeah that's it.....

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Vjo

BTW Sleazy aren't you doing well with free sites? Why this desire for the "big cigar." You just filed br and you're trying to compete in one of the hardest areas on the internet... paysites. (Altho yours is a somewhat more unique niche)

Not that you don't have talent but even I know my html 1.0 skills would not get me far even in an offshoot category of porn. We're talking paysite in 2009. I would have to hire it all out for big investment. You can't do this on a shoestring, BUT hopefully you prove me wrong. Because i would love for it to sell.

SleazyDream

guess we'll see....

this is me moving into the new marketplace.......

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Indeed there's a lot to be argued both ways. Some would like us to believe porn users enjoy ppm models, others will argue free lifetime models, but the popularity of tube sites confirm "flappable free is king".

Personally I believe the *majority* of "porn subscribers" are either (1) not aware of the charges, (2) don't plan to let it rebill, or (3) drunk/drugged/etc during POS in which case refer back to #1. Yes there are "fans" who rebill on solo sites or a bangbros all-you-can-eat type network but even then they'll graduate to stolen passwords/tubes/torrents sooner than later.

Ten years ago shit was different, a subscription model worked. Now surfers are too educated to fall for simple "get in line here to pay" type sites. They want everything for free. The reason why dating sites work (work meaning affiliates make money) is because they get the user this close <----> to meeting a "real" girl (a real girl meaning "smart" auto-responders and/or Philippine chatters looking for gullible john's) and so then the guy whips out his cc to play. Adult dating sites have no real women looking for sex (if we take percentages into play). It's all a fake sell. Forget about sleeping at night buddy, if you've made any $$ from dating sites you've facilitated the scam. POF is "popular" but so are the W4M sections of craigslist (see auto-responders & Philippine chatters referenced above). Eharmony et al drop millions on TV ads so the preppy bitches who missed their man-finding opportunities while whoring in their 20's talk about it with their mid-age-I-want-a-baby friends while sipping on some trendy java drink. Otherwise, it's all bullshit.

If anything what has been confirmed from your release is there's some confusion as to what is being offered/sold. A few 'back to the drawing board sessions' can easily clear this up as some people have already posted some helpful ideas (intro video, cleaner design, etc.). The good thing is you personally have TONS of traffic to throw at it for testing, testing, and more testing.

If I were you (and most likely something I know you *will* do) is wait to hear from all sides. You'll have your regular tools hate from their mom's kitchen ... fuck them. Then you'll have real players throw u tips that may spark something you hadn't thought of ... I'd focus on "free registrations" to see if you actually get someone to post a simple email (which in the end is worth something itself) and then work on tweaking it to get them to pull out their cc. If they don't drop an email, they'll never drop financials.

Like I said before you've been busy and the framework is there ... clean it up and you'll have a good idea if it'll work or not as our opinions don't mean shit if you're laughing all the way to the bank. I'll keep an eye out for updates, it's always good to hear a down-n-out story turn into a success. Good luck bud and I'm sure you'll succeed one way or another

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Sleazy, the design looks horrible in Firefox on Linux... Shoddy work. FYI

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i gota say - i feel sorry for you on that attitude for dating sites. I've been laid more times from adult friend finder than I can count. yes i'm a slut. I'm an ugly fat bastard and I've fucked some pretty hot women from there. it's not a scam and my experiences prove it. some dating sites are a scam - no doubt- AFF isn't and I never lost ANY sleep thinking it ever was a scam promoting them.


I do plan on collecting emails for a legit newsletter soon though, good idea and I'm on that page totally.

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isn't linux all text?

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xxweekxx

99% of dating sites are scams.. you might have met a chic or two from aff but theres millions of fake profiles.. you really think there are that many hot horny girls who cant find someone to fuck them, so they have to join aff?

lol craigslist women seeking men section is now a joke..

99,999 ads out of 100,000 are fake.lol

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SleazyDream

i've met and fucked more than a chick or two - I'd done dozens and dozens from AFF.

but it's as a swinger swapping with my GF

not sure how the single side works but for swingers on AFF- my experience is that the VAST majority are REAL profiles - like 90% plus and the other 10% are just idiots fucking around.

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