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lazycash · 12-17-2009, 02:12 PM

Gotta give Sleazy credit, the design is slightly better than sleazydream.com , and look how much of a hit that was.

JFK · 12-17-2009, 02:13 PM

Two Fitty.......... one ... ;) YesSignals.com -

Vjo · 12-17-2009, 02:23 PM

While at my little grocery store, the girl when bagging flashed the inside of her wrists. I thought, "wow thanks for those yes signals". lol

We all have to start talking about yes signals right Sleazy.

Maybe you're targeting the wrong sex.. lol

Even I know if I mention the words "yes signals" ouside of this computer around other hetero men I might need a bodygaurd along. lol

And yes I purposely refuse to say the g*y word.

lol

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-17-2009, 02:26 PM

Another fail to add to this tub of lards books

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

What in the fuck are you are talking about??? Success is not judged on how high you rank on alexa? In all the years I have been doing this I thought it was on sales and profit. Silly me. To be honest I don't think any of my sites ranked higher than about 50,000 in alexa, but I think I am safe to assume I've made more money than you. I dont deal with tgp traffic much, my traffic converts more like 1:200 not 1 out of 20,000. Hits mean shit... I am also an affiliate and advertise several niches. I don't own 1 big site and send all my traffic there.

So I offer you a bunch of advice, granted you didn't ask for it, but your response is "lets see who is right, who ever can get a site to an alexa rank of 2,000 by June will win".

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I don't care to be right. I am trying to help you. There are SEVERAL things wrong with your concept, and even more things wrong with your execution. This idea has a chance if done right, but no chance the way you did it. But I guess that doesn't mean anything to you because you have a site with a higher alexa ranking than me.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you would come up with something good. Then I even gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would listen to feedback and try to improve it. Stupid me, now you have proved you are an idiot. If you really think yessignals will make you lots of money good luck trying and wasting your time.

I honestly had to read down a couple post before replying to make sure this thread wasn't a joke.

you might see all of this as me being a dick or whatever. The people telling you it looks great you will do well are the dicks...

That is what I thought originally too when i saw the mid 90's look. I even read down a bunch of replies to see if it was a joke but he appears to be serious with this.

that's ok will76 - it's safer to poke at people when you can't get poked back..

we all knew you were a coward anyway

Meeper · 12-17-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Hey Scott. I like you. You are a good guy and I really hope this kicks ass for you.

The idea is unique. I give you credit for coming up with something very different from what everyone is doing. I also like how you built up the anticipation on GFY that was great

That said you are asking for feedback. If I made the post I'd want honest feedback as much as it would hurt. I don't think this will be a smashing hit. I'm sure there is a community around the concept I just don't think it's being executed properly.
- The design is too old school. It looks like a 2001 AVS page. As a surfer I wouldn't sign up because I'd think it hasn't been updated since 2001.
- The girls just don't work. 2009/2010 we live in the world of Facebook girls. Ex Gf sites capitalize on that. The girls on your site look like 2001 porn girls. Not girls that can help.
- The videos are brutal. Not sexy or enticing or informative imo. Again looks too dated.

btw I haven't read any other feedback. Just giving my 2 cents.

I hate to knock an attempt at something new. I just think the execution as it is right now isn't what it needs to be to succeed. Your market is going to be tube traffic. This will not convert tube traffic imo.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

i agree that scott dropped the site to the public too fast. i still think the idea is good, it just needs work. the site doesn't even have visa approval yet, and it's already a failure? tweaking it and testing it with his own traffic makes the most sense at this point. i have no idea if it will actually sell, but i like the concept.

it would be great for him to be able to shoot exclusive content in bars (great idea), but obviously that's just not a reality for him at this point, with the whole bankruptsy thing.

it's actually why I bought the bar... just got in over my head

for anyone to say a site is perfect would be like flashing a moron sign on your head - all good sites evolve in ways some can see and some you can't see.

the only way to know if a site is good or not is testing.

a ton of the design comment are person taste issues and not really relevant. some are good though.

for people to say it's horrible without knowing any testing honestly says a LOT about them. Pretty much says they are a total moron. I'm laughing my head off today at just how stupid many are. Also i'm seeing a lot of good ideas I plan to implement too though as well.

Some sites work in some places and not in others so one person not getting sales really isn't a definitive answer. I could never make any real money from cams - others made piles.

I've never put any weight into conversion ratios - they are a million ways to fuck with them so the end of day it's just - did you make money with it? I'll try to not engage in those conversations.

you're absolutly right on the idea that no one knows if this will work, including me. these same people would say sleazydream or ultrawired sex wouldn't work yet both made millions....

i got a lot of what i'm looking for from this thread and am happy.

bottem line is, as long as I can pay the bills with this and ENJOY working with it - I'm good! I'll scale it as far as I can. I like the concept and as long as some surfers do and a few pay i'm good.

I do have a lot of haters and jealous people, this thread makes that very obvious. It's not just critique - but raw shear HATRED from many...These same people would shit on a lottery site that guaranteed winning numbers and worked lol-

Secret testing would come out here anyway with the stalkers I have so i might as well do it myself.

i weighed the idea of launching or not - i said I'd release the site name wed - if i didn't they would have shit on me for that too. Hoping for visa any day now.....

thanks for the kind words

dyna mo · 12-17-2009, 02:44 PM

did i miss the part where sleazy asked for advices?

Vjo · 12-17-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

bottem line is, as long as I can pay the bills with this and ENJOY working with it - I'm good! I'll scale it as far as I can. I like the concept and as long as some surfers do and a few pay i'm good.

There ya go.

Anyhow forgot to add j/k. Thx for letting me have fun. And yes I will send some hits once you're up. I like promoting diff stuff, sell or not. And ya know what..

..can't find your stuff on the tubes.

OK I'm out of your thread and off this fricken time consuming board.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Hey Scott. I like you. You are a good guy and I really hope this kicks ass for you.

The idea is unique. I give you credit for coming up with something very different from what everyone is doing. I also like how you built up the anticipation on GFY that was great

That said you are asking for feedback. If I made the post I'd want honest feedback as much as it would hurt. I don't think this will be a smashing hit. I'm sure there is a community around the concept I just don't think it's being executed properly.
- The design is too old school. It looks like a 2001 AVS page. As a surfer I wouldn't sign up because I'd think it hasn't been updated since 2001.
- The girls just don't work. 2009/2010 we live in the world of Facebook girls. Ex Gf sites capitalize on that. The girls on your site look like 2001 porn girls. Not girls that can help.
- The videos are brutal. Not sexy or enticing or informative imo. Again looks too dated.

btw I haven't read any other feedback. Just giving my 2 cents.

I hate to knock an attempt at something new. I just think the execution as it is right now isn't what it needs to be to succeed. Your market is going to be tube traffic. This will not convert tube traffic imo.

you're a bright guy but saying you know if a site will convert or not on tubes definitively really isn't smart. Honestly you don't' know. I don't know either. I thought you were brighter than that.

this might piss you off but i'll be honest here.
i thought your stuff would convert with my tgp, you've been in it forever and know your stuff. not trying to shit on you but it's in the bottem 10% of the stuff I usually use for conversions, honestly the conversions are bad. really bad. yet you have some of the best looking galleries and women on the net. without a doubt, your content is amazing and your designs are exactly what everyone shitting on me here says I need to be doing.

I'll still use it cause the girls are amazing and it's good clean content. Actually probably the best looking galleries I've scene in ages and seriously some of the best on the net. You're an honest guy and the sites do not rip people off. I believe good content brings people back to my site. I think a lot of your affiliates are using you for the same reason as that too - as well I'm sure there are places where you're the best sponsor as well that someone uses. I don't always post the sites that make the most money - I like good stuff, even if it isn't hugely profitable and one of the lowest paying ones.

I'll will be updating content, but I cannot afford new content at this moment. I'm running with what i got. I lost everything and am starting over. I'm pretty proud of what I scrapped together here with no cash. I have to start somewhere. The site is specifically designed to grow.

thank you for the comments and I'm sorry if I burst a bubble or anything....you DO have great stuff and i appreciate the comments

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:02 PM

This is getting brutal, Scott what is the product your selling? If it's advice on body signals why would someone pay $30 for this when all you have to do is google body signals and get all the info you need for free? Yet alone rebill and spend $30 a month for it. Hell man paysite networks with 1000 to 10000 full movie scenes in the members area are having hard times retaining. If you think adding 1 new movie a day to a $30 a month paysite is gonna do anything but generate massive chargebacks your crazy man. Scott think like a surfer, a cheap ass surfer cause thats what they all are nowadays. How many google searches a day are there for body language? Body language is pretty cut, dry and simple, you dont need a book about it to understand it. It's not a ongoing $30 a month product. I'm sure people have written full books on body language but who needs this much info about body language man? Maybe shrinks and lawyers, not the average surfer cruising websites with his dick in one hand trying to find something to get a nut off to. Man surfers are NOT gonna bookmark your site if you add a new movie every day. Why would they bookmark your site with one new movie a day when they can go to a tube with 500 new movies everyday? And your movies are comical man, they are not jerk off material. The text you flash showing what the signal the girl is putting out is comical, sorry but it is. I can't jerk off to this. Why would i bookmark it? How many new bookies have you gotten on sleazydream in the last year Scott? Surfers don't bookmark sites unless they have a shitload of good free porn man. If you were to replicate sleazydream today and start from scratch it wouldn't work man. Your bookies from years ago are whats keeping your site going. I was anti gay sites forever until recently. Why not make a legal gay tube site man? Gay is wide open like straight was 10 years ago.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Gotta give Sleazy credit, the design is slightly better than sleazydream.com , and look how much of a hit that was.

thank you.

at the end of the day

it's really mostly about marketing.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:06 PM

Choker - this seems to be really hitting a cord with you... interesting.....

have fun with you gay sites....nothing wrong with that. It's not for me though.

i've never been all about the money

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 03:10 PM

i think choker is jealous maybe.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

i think choker is jealous maybe.

ya think?

Penthouse Tony · 12-17-2009, 03:20 PM

I can understand people who like the site and people who don't like the site. What I don't get is the people who come in here trying to convince others to not like it.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

Choker - this seems to be really hitting a cord with you... interesting.....

have fun with you gay sites....nothing wrong with that. It's not for me though.

i've never been all about the money

Ok dude I'm out of here, your ego will be the end of you. I try to give you advice and a idea other than this stupid fucking idea you came up with. I tried being nice hell I was about to post that I'll give you a $500 gay domain name and $500 of taffic to get it going. But you know what man? This retarded body signal idea of yours proves that you are a one hit wonder. You made sleazydream at the time anyone could have made a 500k a day free site in months. I felt so sorry for you when you icqed me this url and asked me to comment on it in that post you started. I didn't post in that thread cause I'm not one of your ass kissing bros, I'm a straight shooter always have been always will. If I would have posted in that thread it would have been my honest opinion and I ddint want t orain on your parade. Your site and idea is beyond stupid Scott. I see nothing good about this site or idea, it's beyond fucking stupid. I've had ideas that were WAY DUMBER than yours but I restrained my ego enough to not tell everyone on GFY about it so they could praise me before I even tested it myself. It seems your life and self esteem revolves around what your bros think of you on this board. The fact that this is a stupid fucking idea does not mean you are stupid, we all have stupid ideas, MINE ARE BEYOND BEYOND BEYOND stupid, but I don't spend all day on GFY trying to build up expectations before I even beta test my ideas. I have failed at 90% of the shit I have tried, I am no better than anyone else on this board, but Lets see how much traffic your bros will throw at this site of yours. My wife laughed for 30 minutes after watching one of the videos on your tour, shes a surfer not a webmaster and the site confused the fuck out of her. This thread has totally destroyed your reputation dude. People are laughing at you now, not with you.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

i think choker is jealous maybe.

jealous of what man? You are being sarcastic I hope.

Nicky · 12-17-2009, 03:23 PM

Oh well, in the end It all comes down to if It sells or not, I'd need better design, more sales pitches, a clear explanation of what's in for the members and a much better join page. Exclusive shot amateur content for the site would help a lot too. The concept is good and could sell, especially as members area upsell or with dating traffic.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Ok dude I'm out of here, your ego will be the end of you. I try to give you advice and a idea other than this stupid fucking idea you came up with. I tried being nice hell I was about to post that I'll give you a $500 gay domain name and $500 of taffic to get it going. But you know what man? This retarded body signal idea of yours proves that you are a one hit wonder. You made sleazydream at the time anyone could have made a 500k a day free site in months. I felt so sorry for you when you icqed me this url and asked me to comment on it in that post you started. I didn't post in that thread cause I'm not one of your ass kissing bros, I'm a straight shooter always have been always will. If I would have posted in that thread it would have been my honest opinion and I ddint want t orain on your parade. Your site and idea is beyond stupid Scott. I see nothing good about this site or idea, it's beyond fucking stupid. I've had ideas that were WAY DUMBER than yours but I restrained my ego enough to not tell everyone on GFY about it so they could praise me before I even tested it myself. It seems your life and self esteem revolves around what your bros think of you on this board. The fact that this is a stupid fucking idea does not mean you are stupid, we all have stupid ideas, MINE ARE BEYOND BEYOND BEYOND stupid, but I don't spend all day on GFY trying to build up expectations before I even beta test my ideas. I have failed at 90% of the shit I have tried, I am no better than anyone else on this board, but Lets see how much traffic your bros will throw at this site of yours. My wife laughed for 30 minutes after watching one of the videos on your tour, shes a surfer not a webmaster and the site confused the fuck out of her. This thread has totally destroyed your reputation dude. People are laughing at you now, not with you.

i started reading that but it got kinda whinny..... can you post the cliff notes???

xNetworx · 12-17-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i started reading that but it got kinda whinny..... can you post the cliff notes???

Yeah, he basically said the site and idea blows huge donkey cock.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i started reading that but it got kinda whinny..... can you post the cliff notes???

This will go down in GFY history as a Epic fail

JFK · 12-17-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Yeah, he basically said the site and idea blows huge donkey cock.

is that Bigger than a Horse cock?

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:36 PM

You know Scott I have been racking my brain trying to figure out ways to help you, seriously. But after your attitude towards me and others, man your fucking hopeless. Your ego is your problem. You got the balls to tell Shap he's not smart for saying something won't sell on tube sites? Are you fucking crazy? He has a 1 mill a day tube site don't you think he would have a eye for what will sell and what won't? Man you are a total fucking idiot. Seriously

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-17-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

This will go down in GFY history as a Epic fail

It already has.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Yeah, he basically said the site and idea blows huge donkey cock.

that's what i thought - and something about paying me to join him with gay sex........i duno i got creeped out and stopped reading

beemk · 12-17-2009, 03:39 PM

i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

Arnox · 12-17-2009, 03:39 PM

For those saying blah blah blah why would someone pay etc etc.

Why do people pay for music? Why do people pay for movies? People do so because that's what people do. The world isn't a bunch of educated, know-how-to-Google wizkids who want the best of everything. The 'world' are vastly unknowing as to how 'the internets' work. People pay for stuff because they like to see shit. Sure - someone can Google pickup tips and get a nice page from about.com explaining a few things - that's not what this is about.

Sleazy; I think you've hit a chord knowingly or not. I don't think you've made the idea 'sexy' for the following reason but if you have - I commend you. When I person sees this site and makes a correlation between those pickup signals and naked girls something sparks. It's a melodramatic system of producing proof that body signals work. Either way - I think it could well pay off with all the suggestions put forward in this thread.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

You know Scott I have been racking my brain trying to figure out ways to help you, seriously. But after your attitude towards me and others, man your fucking hopeless. Your ego is your problem. You got the balls to tell Shap he's not smart for saying something won't sell on tube sites? Are you fucking crazy? He has a 1 mill a day tube site don't you think he would have a eye for what will sell and what won't? Man you are a total fucking idiot. Seriously

i think gay sites will work really good for you - you seem to be a pro at sucking cock

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnox

For those saying blah blah blah why would someone pay etc etc.

Why do people pay for music? Why do people pay for movies? People do so because that's what people do. The world isn't a bunch of educated, know-how-to-Google wizkids who want the best of everything. The 'world' are vastly unknowing as to how 'the internets' work. People pay for stuff because they like to see shit. Sure - someone can Google pickup tips and get a nice page from about.com explaining a few things - that's not what this is about.

Sleazy; I think you've hit a chord knowingly or not. I don't think you've made the idea 'sexy' for the following reason but if you have - I commend you. When I person sees this site and makes a correlation between those pickup signals and naked girls something sparks. It's a melodramatic system of producing proof that body signals work. Either way - I think it could well pay off with all the suggestions put forward in this thread.

the sites not perfect - it will be tweaked as time goes on. I'm on a budget now is all...

but look at the emotion in this thread- good and bad.

emotion sells above ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ELSE - whether it's good or bad emotion. it trumps all in the sales world. spark emotion and out comes the wallet.

i'm happier than shit right now!!!!!!!!!!

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

my god - i hope no one finds that link

i'll be sunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The King of Pop · 12-17-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

This will go down in GFY history as a Epic fail

RTP · 12-17-2009, 03:45 PM

concept is ok man...if it was custom shot or filmed by you or someone from that perspective it would be a whole different story. design wise it is hurting.

shap gave the best advice, really.

Arnox · 12-17-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

the sites not perfect - it will be tweaked as time goes on. I'm on a budget now is all...

but look at the emotion in this thread- good and bad.

emotion sells above ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ELSE - whether it's good or bad emotion. it trumps all in the sales world. spark emotion and out comes the wallet.

i'm happier than shit right now!!!!!!!!!!

I'm hoping I can speak for many in saying that we hope you heed the advice. You seem like a nice guy and it'd be a shame for those few who construct their criticism so negatively to get the better of you.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i think gay sites will work really good for you - you seem to be a pro at sucking cock

They are doing great thanks for asking. Good luck with everything.

greg80 · 12-17-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief

So basically you made a paid dating advice website? How revolutionary lol. You shall have as much success a penis enlargement text guide in this day and age.

wish you all best though

beemk · 12-17-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

my god - i hope no one finds that link

i'll be sunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

greg80 · 12-17-2009, 03:58 PM

checking the site out, I still don't get what you are actually selling. Also is this a porn site or advice site or what is it? I don't even see why to join and I checked out quite a few pages.

The King of Pop · 12-17-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

They are doing great thanks for asking. Good luck with everything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

He won't have any stats in three months. If the members area reflects the tour I would guess it has maybe 20 movies inside and 10 pages of text. If a surfer is stupid enough to signup and pay, he won't be stupid enough to see that he got ripped and charge back. The charge back ratio on a site like this? think about it.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 04:04 PM

he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

He won't have any stats in three months. If the members area reflects the tour I would guess it has maybe 20 movies inside and 10 pages of text. If a surfer is stupid enough to signup and pay, he won't be stupid enough to see that he got ripped and charge back. The charge back ratio on a site like this? think about it.

actually only 17 - but i'm adding one or two every day so in 3 months there will be more than 100......

beemk · 12-17-2009, 04:07 PM

this is the best advice someone could give sleazy:

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-17-2009, 04:09 PM

Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post...

Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content.

How is that site doing for you?

Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you?

ADG

candyflip · 12-17-2009, 04:10 PM

I love how people try to help and offer some real constructive criticism but this thick headed moron can't put his ego in check for 2 minutes to even see that those he's calling haters and trolls are the only ones offering good feedback.

Save your breath and just let him wallow in his own shit. If you think it's going to fail, just sit back let it fail and revel in that when it happens. Unless you are going to lick his ass or give him some free content or traffic to use because he hasn't much more than a pot to piss in now...just step back and enjoy the show.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post...

Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content.

How is that site doing for you?

Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you?

ADG

why on earth are people comparing me to DirtyD?

that I really dont' get?

i'm going to be implementing many of the suggestions in this thread. I'd be the idiot if i took all of them. there are some good ones, bad ones, REALLY bad ones from some morons, and lots of unrelated crap.....

to be expected....

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

BV had some great advise that i am implementing - playing with a new new join page options now actually....

Choker · 12-17-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

actually only 17 - but i'm adding one or two every day so in 3 months there will be more than 100......

CCbill approved a paysite with only 17 movies in it? holy shit

dyna mo · 12-17-2009, 04:22 PM

sleazy, when did this idea come to you?

Shap · 12-17-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you're a bright guy but saying you know if a site will convert or not on tubes definitively really isn't smart. Honestly you don't' know. I don't know either. I thought you were brighter than that.

this might piss you off but i'll be honest here.
i thought your stuff would convert with my tgp, you've been in it forever and know your stuff. not trying to shit on you but it's in the bottem 10% of the stuff I usually use for conversions, honestly the conversions are bad. really bad. yet you have some of the best looking galleries and women on the net. without a doubt, your content is amazing and your designs are exactly what everyone shitting on me here says I need to be doing.

I'll still use it cause the girls are amazing and it's good clean content. Actually probably the best looking galleries I've scene in ages and seriously some of the best on the net. You're an honest guy and the sites do not rip people off. I believe good content brings people back to my site. I think a lot of your affiliates are using you for the same reason as that too - as well I'm sure there are places where you're the best sponsor as well that someone uses. I don't always post the sites that make the most money - I like good stuff, even if it isn't hugely profitable and one of the lowest paying ones.

I'll will be updating content, but I cannot afford new content at this moment. I'm running with what i got. I lost everything and am starting over. I'm pretty proud of what I scrapped together here with no cash. I have to start somewhere. The site is specifically designed to grow.

thank you for the comments and I'm sorry if I burst a bubble or anything....you DO have great stuff and i appreciate the comments

I don't take that negatively in any way. I'm very well aware of where we fall short. I know what sources of traffic we fail to convert well and where we need to improve. If I had my way it would all be doing much better right now. Unfortunately nothing ever moves at the speed I wish it did. That said as I'm sure you know with every project it is a work in progress.

I'm not god and I don't know all. But if I had to put $10 on whether this site would sell well on tubes I'd have to say it wouldn't. I'm basing that on the tube traffic we own, the tube traffic we buy, and the tube traffic we research. I think this site could have had some success in the TGP and gallery maker affiliate days. Those days are long gone. Compared to what is being pushed today and pushed hard this doesn't match up to it. I'm not saying my sites do. My sites aren't the subject of the thread. I'm just providing my two cents based on what I've learned.

12-17-2009, 02:12 PM	#251
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Gotta give Sleazy credit, the design is slightly better than sleazydream.com , and look how much of a hit that was. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

12-17-2009, 02:13 PM	#252
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,382	Two Fitty.......... one ... ;) YesSignals.com - __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

12-17-2009, 02:23 PM	#253
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	While at my little grocery store, the girl when bagging flashed the inside of her wrists. I thought, "wow thanks for those yes signals". lol We all have to start talking about yes signals right Sleazy. Maybe you're targeting the wrong sex.. lol Even I know if I mention the words "yes signals" ouside of this computer around other hetero men I might need a bodygaurd along. lol And yes I purposely refuse to say the gy word. lol Last edited by Vjo; 12-17-2009 at 02:28 PM..*

12-17-2009, 03:02 PM	#261
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	This is getting brutal, Scott what is the product your selling? If it's advice on body signals why would someone pay $30 for this when all you have to do is google body signals and get all the info you need for free? Yet alone rebill and spend $30 a month for it. Hell man paysite networks with 1000 to 10000 full movie scenes in the members area are having hard times retaining. If you think adding 1 new movie a day to a $30 a month paysite is gonna do anything but generate massive chargebacks your crazy man. Scott think like a surfer, a cheap ass surfer cause thats what they all are nowadays. How many google searches a day are there for body language? Body language is pretty cut, dry and simple, you dont need a book about it to understand it. It's not a ongoing $30 a month product. I'm sure people have written full books on body language but who needs this much info about body language man? Maybe shrinks and lawyers, not the average surfer cruising websites with his dick in one hand trying to find something to get a nut off to. Man surfers are NOT gonna bookmark your site if you add a new movie every day. Why would they bookmark your site with one new movie a day when they can go to a tube with 500 new movies everyday? And your movies are comical man, they are not jerk off material. The text you flash showing what the signal the girl is putting out is comical, sorry but it is. I can't jerk off to this. Why would i bookmark it? How many new bookies have you gotten on sleazydream in the last year Scott? Surfers don't bookmark sites unless they have a shitload of good free porn man. If you were to replicate sleazydream today and start from scratch it wouldn't work man. Your bookies from years ago are whats keeping your site going. I was anti gay sites forever until recently. Why not make a legal gay tube site man? Gay is wide open like straight was 10 years ago. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

12-17-2009, 03:06 PM	#263
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Choker - this seems to be really hitting a cord with you... interesting..... have fun with you gay sites....nothing wrong with that. It's not for me though. i've never been all about the money __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog. Last edited by SleazyDream; 12-17-2009 at 03:07 PM..

12-17-2009, 02:26 PM	#254
area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,164	Another fail to add to this tub of lards books

12-17-2009, 02:44 PM	#258
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,903	did i miss the part where sleazy asked for advices?

12-17-2009, 03:10 PM	#264
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i think choker is jealous maybe.

12-17-2009, 03:20 PM	#266
Penthouse Tony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 5,835	I can understand people who like the site and people who don't like the site. What I don't get is the people who come in here trying to convince others to not like it. __________________ aamos AT FFN dot com Penthouse.com Business Development ICQ: 49090846 \| Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

12-17-2009, 03:23 PM	#269
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	Oh well, in the end It all comes down to if It sells or not, I'd need better design, more sales pitches, a clear explanation of what's in for the members and a much better join page. Exclusive shot amateur content for the site would help a lot too. The concept is good and could sell, especially as members area upsell or with dating traffic. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com Last edited by Nicky; 12-17-2009 at 03:25 PM..

12-17-2009, 03:36 PM	#274
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	You know Scott I have been racking my brain trying to figure out ways to help you, seriously. But after your attitude towards me and others, man your fucking hopeless. Your ego is your problem. You got the balls to tell Shap he's not smart for saying something won't sell on tube sites? Are you fucking crazy? He has a 1 mill a day tube site don't you think he would have a eye for what will sell and what won't? Man you are a total fucking idiot. Seriously __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

12-17-2009, 03:39 PM	#277
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this: http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1 __________________ I host with Vacares

12-17-2009, 03:39 PM	#278
Arnox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,160	For those saying blah blah blah why would someone pay etc etc. Why do people pay for music? Why do people pay for movies? People do so because that's what people do. The world isn't a bunch of educated, know-how-to-Google wizkids who want the best of everything. The 'world' are vastly unknowing as to how 'the internets' work. People pay for stuff because they like to see shit. Sure - someone can Google pickup tips and get a nice page from about.com explaining a few things - that's not what this is about. Sleazy; I think you've hit a chord knowingly or not. I don't think you've made the idea 'sexy' for the following reason but if you have - I commend you. When I person sees this site and makes a correlation between those pickup signals and naked girls something sparks. It's a melodramatic system of producing proof that body signals work. Either way - I think it could well pay off with all the suggestions put forward in this thread. __________________ Need Text? X Copywriters \| Adult Writing Service - [email protected]

12-17-2009, 03:45 PM	#283
RTP aka Jimmy James Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Newport Posts: 1,335	concept is ok man...if it was custom shot or filmed by you or someone from that perspective it would be a whole different story. design wise it is hurting. shap gave the best advice, really. __________________ Jimmy James ATKingdom/AMK Empire Since 1996 - My Movies Home of ATKGirlfriends - Where we take pornstars on trips...and fuck them. Connect with me on LinkedIn

12-17-2009, 03:58 PM	#288
greg80 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,644	checking the site out, I still don't get what you are actually selling. Also is this a porn site or advice site or what is it? I don't even see why to join and I checked out quite a few pages. __________________ Say no to GoDaddy and high renewal prices! Go with NameSilo - FREE private whois for life, $8.99 regstrations and renewals. Free redirects, emails, great control panel and more! NameSilo rocks!

12-17-2009, 04:04 PM	#291
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

12-17-2009, 04:07 PM	#293
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	this is the best advice someone could give sleazy: __________________ I host with Vacares

12-17-2009, 04:09 PM	#294
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post... Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content. How is that site doing for you? Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you? ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

12-17-2009, 04:10 PM	#295
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	I love how people try to help and offer some real constructive criticism but this thick headed moron can't put his ego in check for 2 minutes to even see that those he's calling haters and trolls are the only ones offering good feedback. Save your breath and just let him wallow in his own shit. If you think it's going to fail, just sit back let it fail and revel in that when it happens. Unless you are going to lick his ass or give him some free content or traffic to use because he hasn't much more than a pot to piss in now...just step back and enjoy the show. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

12-17-2009, 04:22 PM	#299
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,903	sleazy, when did this idea come to you?