Mascotts: do you do them digitally or scan mockups? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sid70 · 01-20-2010, 11:06 AM

I haven't literally tried it for years, but i decided to think of developing the skill.
Was playing a little:

then i chose that cat for some reason, I guess on this stage it has to be taken into PS for
edits.

and applied some pencils.

so, I guess a tablet is a must to have.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 11:09 AM

You can color it with a mouse... it's really no different - actually I have a pad and haven't plugged it in for years, a mouse does it perfectly..just use a few more layers to fade the colors a bit easier, rather than pressure from the pen.

Amputate Your Head · 01-20-2010, 11:09 AM

Don't know how you could do them without a tablet.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 11:12 AM

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Don't know how you could do them without a tablet.

What do you do with the pen that you can't do with the mouse?

90% of the cleanup is done without the pen either way...the pen isn't used at all to prep the grahpic, it's all in photoshop. The colors are selected areas, layers.. select, fill, and fade a few layers in if you need to fade colors. Exactly what you're doing with the pen.

Amputate Your Head · 01-20-2010, 11:14 AM

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What do you do with the pen that you can't do with the mouse?

Speed, precision, & fluid motion. It's like driving a car versus pushing a shopping cart down the street with all your stuff in it. 2 different worlds.

fatfoo · 01-20-2010, 11:16 AM

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TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 11:18 AM

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Speed, precision, & fluid motion. It's like driving a car versus pushing a shopping cart down the street with all your stuff in it. 2 different worlds.

I found the pens limit my speed to flip tools, layers, ect.. or be working and click the stupid button because you're trying to be so precise - it drove me nuts

Most web cartoons don't contain enough detail to care about a pen.. 10 colors (joking) almost all have solid lines and color fades. Kinda like driving a sports car through the grocery store when you only need a shopping cart.

Amputate Your Head · 01-20-2010, 11:22 AM

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I found the pens limit my speed flip tools, layers, ect.. or be working and click the stupid button because you're trying to be so precise - it drove me nuts

Most web cartoons don't contain enough detail to care about a pen.. 10 colors (joking) almost all have solid lines and color fades. Kinda like driving a sports car through the grocery store when you only need a shopping cart.

I suppose it depends on what you're doing and what kind of tablet you have.
I use a Wacom Cintiq 21ux Widescreen interactive display, with lots and lots of programmable buttons, mounted on an articulating LCD arm. Personally, I could not live without this thing. All those years of designing with a mouse just seems so elementary school to me now.

But it's whatever you're comfortable with.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I suppose it depends on what you're doing and what kind of tablet you have.
I use a Wacom Cintiq 21ux Widescreen interactive display, with lots and lots of programmable buttons, mounted on an articulating LCD arm. Personally, I could not live without this thing. All those years of designing with a mouse just seems so elementary school to me now.

But it's whatever you're comfortable with.

Ahh, yes... the toy that you have to rotate to draw on or your arm sits on the screen.. kind of an over kill for Internet graphics don't ya think?

Amputate Your Head · 01-20-2010, 11:30 AM

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Ahh, yes... the toy that you have to rotate to draw on or your arm sits on the screen.. kind of an over kill for Internet graphics don't ya think?

Not at all, I love it. It makes masking images and stuff a breeze. The mouse is too jerky. Plus it doubles as a secondary monitor, and because it's on the arm, I can move or float it anywhere in a three foot spherical area, rotate, flatten, etc. I think it rocks.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 11:32 AM

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Not at all, I love it. It makes masking images and stuff a breeze. The mouse is too jerky. Plus it doubles as a secondary monitor, and because it's on the arm, I can move or float it anywhere in a three foot spherical area, rotate, flatten, etc. I think it rocks.

Hehe, it sounds like the arm does rock

Amputate Your Head · 01-20-2010, 11:36 AM

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Hehe, it sounds like the arm does rock

This guy's isn't on an arm, just the original stand mount, but check out how killer this thing is: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dLEubvE5ZQ4

xenigo · 01-20-2010, 02:48 PM

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This guy's isn't on an arm, just the original stand mount, but check out how killer this thing is: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dLEubvE5ZQ4

Holy crap, that's awesome.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 02:53 PM

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This guy's isn't on an arm, just the original stand mount, but check out how killer this thing is: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dLEubvE5ZQ4

Very cool.....

But wayyy over kill for what he just made

He actually colored the drawing like a coloring book... that's crazy, it's photoshop you don't need to do that.

He could have easily done that in half the time on a mouse, no special detail is in that picture what so ever.

TheDoc · 01-20-2010, 02:56 PM

Btw.. that is a very bad ass tablet.. much better than my 9" flop with a pen I can't find half the time.

PixelVixens · 01-20-2010, 02:57 PM

I have a tablet, but still use my mouse to color...Have been using it for like 9 years now. I started out coloring with a trackball, man that was a pain in the ass.

Of course I don't do this kind of stuff professionally, though. But I still manage to do some decent stuff with it. I usually like to start out with a sketch, though

itto · 01-20-2010, 04:37 PM

the cintiq definitely rocks but it really all depends on your skills.. if you got 20 years of drawing routine, you can do the same with ye olde broke 1st generation tablet thingy.

re the original question: personally, i first draw a few mockups using pen and paper.. doodling around.. but i won't scan 'em.. once i have the final concept in mind, i start from scratch - digitally.

Twisted Dave · 01-20-2010, 05:32 PM

I do mine with hand drawn pencils ... then scanned and line/color with a mouse. I don't like tablets.

Twisted Dave · 01-20-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I suppose it depends on what you're doing and what kind of tablet you have.
I use a Wacom Cintiq 21ux Widescreen interactive display, with lots and lots of programmable buttons, mounted on an articulating LCD arm. Personally, I could not live without this thing. All those years of designing with a mouse just seems so elementary school to me now.

But it's whatever you're comfortable with.

Lucky sonofa!!! :D hehe... Sounds like a dream! I hate tablets on the desk ... but the cintiq just looks superb.

PixelVixens · 01-20-2010, 06:20 PM

I would LOVE a cintiq. My tablet is about 5 years old now...It's a wacom, and it works fine for casual arting, but I'd love to have something I could draw right on like that.

Hotrocket · 01-20-2010, 10:42 PM

As with a lot things in Photoshop or Illustrator...there are many ways to achieve the same results. Tablets can be handy for the coloring phase but not required.
You could use either program or both and start with a scan of your drawing.

a cpl tutorials to help you along
Photoshop:
http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-comicbook.html
http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-popart2.html
http://www.gomediazine.com/tutorials...-illustration/

Illustrator:
Create a Vector Cartoon Character from a Hand Drawn Sketch: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/...d-drawn-sketch

Coloring images with Live Paint: http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?...icle&artid=576

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Sid70 Downshifter Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Road trip Posts: 16,413	Mascotts: do you do them digitally or scan mockups? I haven't literally tried it for years, but i decided to think of developing the skill. Was playing a little: then i chose that cat for some reason, I guess on this stage it has to be taken into PS for edits. and applied some pencils. so, I guess a tablet is a must to have. __________________ Русня, идите нахуй! Last edited by Sid70; 01-20-2010 at 11:09 AM..

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	You can color it with a mouse... it's really no different - actually I have a pad and haven't plugged it in for years, a mouse does it perfectly..just use a few more layers to fade the colors a bit easier, rather than pressure from the pen. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Btw.. that is a very bad ass tablet.. much better than my 9" flop with a pen I can't find half the time. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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PixelVixens Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 109	I have a tablet, but still use my mouse to color...Have been using it for like 9 years now. I started out coloring with a trackball, man that was a pain in the ass. Of course I don't do this kind of stuff professionally, though. But I still manage to do some decent stuff with it. I usually like to start out with a sketch, though __________________ www.pixel-vixens.com Alt porn for geeks

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Don't know how you could do them without a tablet.

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itto Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: world wide Posts: 1,363	the cintiq definitely rocks but it really all depends on your skills.. if you got 20 years of drawing routine, you can do the same with ye olde broke 1st generation tablet thingy. re the original question: personally, i first draw a few mockups using pen and paper.. doodling around.. but i won't scan 'em.. once i have the final concept in mind, i start from scratch - digitally. __________________ Last edited by itto; 01-20-2010 at 04:40 PM..

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Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	I do mine with hand drawn pencils ... then scanned and line/color with a mouse. I don't like tablets. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

01-20-2010, 06:20 PM	#20
PixelVixens Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 109	I would LOVE a cintiq. My tablet is about 5 years old now...It's a wacom, and it works fine for casual arting, but I'd love to have something I could draw right on like that. __________________ www.pixel-vixens.com Alt porn for geeks

01-20-2010, 10:42 PM	#21
Hotrocket Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,327	As with a lot things in Photoshop or Illustrator...there are many ways to achieve the same results. Tablets can be handy for the coloring phase but not required. You could use either program or both and start with a scan of your drawing. a cpl tutorials to help you along Photoshop: http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-comicbook.html http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-popart2.html http://www.gomediazine.com/tutorials...-illustration/ Illustrator: Create a Vector Cartoon Character from a Hand Drawn Sketch: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/...d-drawn-sketch Coloring images with Live Paint: http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?...icle&artid=576