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Old 02-07-2010, 02:39 AM   #51
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i don't think you understand how important the census is and the obstacles the bureau faces trying to get accurate #s.
Will they be counting illegals this time around?
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:56 AM   #52
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And no I don't live "off the grid" I'm just not anyone's slave or inventory. If you wish to be then so be it. As for me. Nope.
I will ask again. Do you pay your taxes? If yes, do you tell the truth on your tax forms? Also you could add in: Do you have a driver's license.

If you answered yest to these questions then you, sir, are inventory whether you want to admit it or not.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:32 AM   #53
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Will they be counting illegals this time around?
why do you care? you've made you choice and moved to a different country, just like you made your choice and left gfy and started your own message boar........oh wait........n/m...

now i get it.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:10 AM   #54
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Will they be counting illegals this time around?
considering what we pay into welfare to illegal aliens, I would think so, LMAO
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2.5 million doesn't sound like much to the govt but they bought a Super Bowl ad for the 2010 Census. That same $2.5m could have bought 50 cheap $50,000 homes and housed 50 homeless families. I am sure they waste more each day but I doubt they will ever get their shit together.

If the waste were only $2.5m per day they could house 18,250 new families per year in $50,00 homes. Give them the home and a chance to make a go of it.

With the same $2.5m per day they could feed 833,333 people which is over 3 billion meals/yr.

I'd rather see them feed the 833,333 people than buy a Super Bowl ad.
I think the census is pretty important and anyways $2.5million is small change.

The basic facts are the only way the US is gonna balance its books is to stop spending billions on pointless wars, reduce spending on healthcare (medicare) and raise taxes.
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I think the census is pretty important and anyways $2.5million is small change.

The basic facts are the only way the US is gonna balance its books is to stop spending billions on pointless wars, reduce spending on healthcare (medicare) and raise taxes.
that's exactly what i am saying in this thread too! pointing fingers at a $2.5m census advert and saying that's stupid spending, instead we should multiply that x 365 and give away that amount in homes to the homeless and cross our fingers that someones makes them a viable part of the workforce all while the MAJORITY of our budget is spent on entitlement programs just like this makes no sense.
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Will they be counting illegals this time around?
Of course they do . . . at least they try.
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I will ask again. Do you pay your taxes? If yes, do you tell the truth on your tax forms? Also you could add in: Do you have a driver's license.

If you answered yest to these questions then you, sir, are inventory whether you want to admit it or not.
Let's just say since ALL prior "hidden" contracts are null and void due to lack of full disclosure and the inability to produce said contracts that everything is in the process of being legally contested. That work for ya?

Any and all transgressors who have knowingly and willingly participated in this enslavement will be dealt with. Believe that. Crimes against humanity is a serious charge and I plan to hold all those accountable to the fullest extent via their very own creations.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:26 PM   #59
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So, what you are saying is that the dollar currency can be used to buy and sell products and services.
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Agreed, yet they keep advertising on TV like they have for the last 20 years. If you do not answer the census survey sent in the mail they come and knock on your door so they can get the answers they need. They do not need the ad. Do not believe in their BS saying they do.
Spending money is something all Governements do well. Every year the spending grows.

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Let's just say since ALL prior "hidden" contracts are null and void due to lack of full disclosure and the inability to produce said contracts that everything is in the process of being legally contested. That work for ya?

Any and all transgressors who have knowingly and willingly participated in this enslavement will be dealt with. Believe that. Crimes against humanity is a serious charge and I plan to hold all those accountable to the fullest extent via their very own creations.
So I guess based on this answer I will assume that yes, you file your taxes and you have a driver's license.

Welcome to the inventory. Just because you decide not not answer your door when the census taker comes doesn't mean they don't know who you are and have plenty of info about you.
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So I guess based on this answer I will assume that yes, you file your taxes and you have a driver's license.
I left it open to interpretation for a reason so you could draw your own conclusion. If that conclusion makes you comfortable then great.

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Welcome to the inventory. Just because you decide not not answer your door when the census taker comes doesn't mean they don't know who you are and have plenty of info about you.
So if as you say "they" have plenty of info about me (which I know "they" do since I am confronting them legally and lawfully) then why the need for a census? (because there's more to it than what the general public really knows?)

You continue on being an obedient slave since you seem content in being one. I will continue on in trying to free the slaves who wish to be free, deal?
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:59 PM   #63
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we are slaves because we answer the following questions

how many live in my house?
what kind of house is it?
what race am i?
m or f?

oh the opression!
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how many live in my house?
This is the only question they need to know. Anything beyond that including but not limited to GPS coordinates of front doors is overreaching. The census is just a very small part of a much bigger problem.

BTW the 2.5 million is chump change

"The Obama White House has allocated a total of $340 million toward an "unprecedented" promotional blitz for the 2010 census. That's on top of $1 billion in stimulus money siphoned off for increased census "public outreach" and staffing. In all, the census will triple its total 2000 budget to $15 billion."

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/michel...us-boondoggle/
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This is the only question they need to know. Anything beyond that including but not limited to GPS coordinates of front doors is overreaching. The census is just a very small part of a much bigger problem.

BTW the 2.5 million is chump change

"The Obama White House has allocated a total of $340 million toward an "unprecedented" promotional blitz for the 2010 census. That's on top of $1 billion in stimulus money siphoned off for increased census "public outreach" and staffing. In all, the census will triple its total 2000 budget to $15 billion."

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/michel...us-boondoggle/
there is not one single accurate fact in the post above.
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there is not one single accurate fact in the post above.
It's all accurate fact. Constitution only requires a head count.

And from the census site itself

"The life cycle cost for the Reengineered 2010 Census was estimated at $11.8 billion in the FY 2009 Budget Request, including $1.8 billion for the American Community Survey which replaced the long-form. The new estimated life cycle cost for the 2010 Census is $13.7 to $14.5 billion."

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...us/011773.html

It's now around 15 billion.

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It's all accurate fact. Constitution only requires a head count.

And from the census site itself

"The life cycle cost for the Reengineered 2010 Census was estimated at $11.8 billion in the FY 2009 Budget Request, including $1.8 billion for the American Community Survey which replaced the long-form. The new estimated life cycle cost for the 2010 Census is $13.7 to $14.5 billion."

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...us/011773.html

It's now around 15 billion.

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i stand corrected, there's one correct fact- the overall budget number. but to cast in a light of the obama white house going willy nilly with the census bureau budget is disinformation.

that train has been chugging since the last census. just like the original thread topic- the op wasn't aware that the last census, 10 years ago, the bureau also advertised during the super bowl.

look, not sure why there's an attempt to argue with me here, i know government spending is out of control, i've already commented on that.

but to try and pied piper a group of GFYers re: reallocating census bureau ad dollars to giving away houses to the homeless is a poor & ironic choice of line items to nitpick.

and then to add that the census is yet another government tool to rope in americans makes it all laughable.
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there is not one single accurate fact in the post above.
What a shock.
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i stand corrected, there's one correct fact- the overall budget number. but to cast in a light of the obama white house going willy nilly with the census bureau budget is disinformation.

that train has been chugging since the last census. just like the original thread topic- the op wasn't aware that the last census, 10 years ago, the bureau also advertised during the super bowl.

look, not sure why there's an attempt to argue with me here, i know government spending is out of control, i've already commented on that.

but to try and pied piper a group of GFYers re: reallocating census bureau ad dollars to giving away houses to the homeless is a poor & ironic choice of line items to nitpick.

and then to add that the census is yet another government tool to rope in americans makes it all laughable.
Constitution reads

"An Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

In 1980 Congress changed it with this "statute"

"As used in this section, 'census of population' means a census of population, housing, and matters relating to population and housing."

This "legalized" all sorts of invasive data collection but they had actually been doing it since 1930 just before the bankruptcy.

It's not a "roping in" it is IN FACT now an inventory of assets to borrow against so they can continue the spending that you speak of.
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i'll let kane take over from here.

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