Deaths by terrorism Vs lack of healthcare. - GoFuckYourself.com

kane · 02-11-2010, 06:12 PM

Just saw this pic and I thought it was interesting. Food for thought.

Bill8 · 02-11-2010, 06:23 PM

You are trying to appeal to americans with a reasonable argument.

Such an effort is doomed.

Americans are pretty much all hysterical little girls.

just a thought.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-11-2010, 06:25 PM

I am all for socialized health care so long as someone follows some simple rules:

You live healthy, or you pay for it yourself.

It's not my fucking problem you had a heart attack at 32 because you've done nothing but eat McDonalds your entire life. Fuck you, I already have to pay for your kids.

kane · 02-11-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8

You are trying to appeal to americans with a reasonable argument.

Such an effort is doomed.

Americans are pretty much all hysterical little girls.

just a thought.

In a way this is true. They could announce tomorrow that we are going to spend 400 billion on new military stuff and very few people would complain. If they announce they are going to spend 400 billion on health care for people, half the country would be in an uproar.

kane · 02-11-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I am all for socialized health care so long as someone follows some simple rules:

You live healthy, or you pay for it yourself.

It's not my fucking problem you had a heart attack at 32 because you've done nothing but eat McDonalds your entire life. Fuck you, I already have to pay for your kids.

Does it piss you off that you pay to defend these people?

pornguy · 02-11-2010, 07:20 PM

WAIT A MIN...

Lack of Health Care.. That does not mean Lack of Healt Care Coverage or insurance.. A DAMN good number of people die because they were scared to go did not have the time to go etc and that ALL falls under Lack of Health CARE!

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8

You are trying to appeal to americans with a reasonable argument.

Such an effort is doomed.

Americans are pretty much all hysterical little girls.

just a thought.

It's called an appeal to emotion and it's not a logical argument. Thanks for playing.

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

In a way this is true. They could announce tomorrow that we are going to spend 400 billion on new military stuff and very few people would complain. If they announce they are going to spend 400 billion on health care for people, half the country would be in an uproar.

Huge difference. Your biggest mistake is comparing the threat of terrorism to lack of great healthcare.

fatfoo · 02-11-2010, 07:32 PM

The ad says, "Invade a hospital."

If terrorists invade the hospital and kill terminally ill patients this would reduce a lot of costs. But, of course that would be inhumane.

_Richard_ · 02-11-2010, 07:54 PM

holy shit.. those are some crazy numbers:

"The Harvard study found that people without health insurance had a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance — as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The risk appears to have increased since 1993, when a similar study found the risk of death was 25 percent greater for the uninsured"

moeloubani · 02-11-2010, 07:56 PM

lol americans you guys get fucked harder than anyone else in the world by your government its pretty sad to see

bronco67 · 02-11-2010, 07:58 PM

I have great healthcare, but I never go to the doctor.

Bill8 · 02-11-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

It's called an appeal to emotion and it's not a logical argument. Thanks for playing.

So your claim is that it's not true that people have a very very very low chance of being killed by terrorists, however, despite this, americans behave as if hysterically afraid of terrorism?

And that americans are able to parse statistical likelihoods, and usually make decisions based on likely outcomes?

Thanks for playing.

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8

So your claim is that it's not true that people have a very very very low chance of being killed by terrorists, however, despite this, americans behave as if hysterically afraid of terrorism?

And that americans are able to parse statistical likelihoods, and usually make decisions based on likely outcomes?

Thanks for playing.

Wait, that's my claim? Holy shit, you're either an idiot, or a psychic, because you totally can tell me what my claim is. Game over, tool.

Matt 26z · 02-11-2010, 10:07 PM

The side that fears terrorism will tell you that we are at risk of being nuked and having 100,000 wiped out in one shot.

BFT3K · 02-11-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I am all for socialized health care so long as someone follows some simple rules:

You live healthy, or you pay for it yourself.

It's not my fucking problem you had a heart attack at 32 because you've done nothing but eat McDonalds your entire life. Fuck you, I already have to pay for your kids.

Oh please... blah blah blah!

How about we outlaw cigarettes too? How do they help lower anyone's insurance costs?

Maybe use a couple of Pentagon cookies to cover the cost, or is it more important that we build bombs?...

http://www.truemajority.org/oreos/

kane · 02-11-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Huge difference. Your biggest mistake is comparing the threat of terrorism to lack of great healthcare.

I guess I would disagree. I think if tomorrow Obama went on TV and said he was spending 400 billion to develop a bunch of new military technologies that would help us better fight terrorism many people would not complain and many conservatives would feel this is a good step forward in helping to protect them and their neighbors. But if he said he was going to spend that 400 billion on making sure everyone who has no health insurance or is under-insured got health insurance those same people would be up in arms. Then numbers seems to show that their under-insured neighbors are 58 times more likely to die from having a lack of health insurance than they are from a terrorist attack. We will spend infinitely to protect from the terrorist, but not to help them get health insurance even though the lack of insurance is much more a risk to people.

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The side that fears terrorism will tell you that we are at risk of being nuked and having 100,000 wiped out in one shot.

hahahhaahahaha

BFT3K · 02-11-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I guess I would disagree. I think if tomorrow Obama went on TV and said he was spending 400 billion to develop a bunch of new military technologies that would help us better fight terrorism many people would not complain and many conservatives would feel this is a good step forward in helping to protect them and their neighbors. But if he said he was going to spend that 400 billion on making sure everyone who has no health insurance or is under-insured got health insurance those same people would be up in arms. Then numbers seems to show that their under-insured neighbors are 58 times more likely to die from having a lack of health insurance than they are from a terrorist attack. We will spend infinitely to protect from the terrorist, but not to help them get health insurance even though the lack of insurance is much more a risk to people.

Or even better - how about spending over one TRILLION dollars giving a tax cut to the rich! That's what Bush did, and nobody said shit. Obama proposes a healthcare bill that will cost that much over the next 10 years and he's fucking Hitler!

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Or even better - how about spending over one TRILLION dollars giving a tax cut to the rich! That's what Bush did, and nobody said shit. Obama proposes a healthcare bill that will cost that much over the next 10 years and he's fucking Hitler!

That's the beauty of stupid human beings. They don't have the ability to be objective, or even live in reality. Thanks for the laughs BFT3K.

BFT3K · 02-11-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

That's the beauty of stupid human beings. They don't have the ability to be objective, or even live in reality. Thanks for the laughs BFT3K.

I don't know what makes you so dumb but it really works!

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I don't know what makes you so dumb but it really works!

Hahahaha and the retard proceeds to repeat me. Both predictable and classic.

heymatty · 02-11-2010, 10:37 PM

No matter how much money you throw at terrorism you can't be called a socialist.

BFT3K · 02-11-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Hahahaha and the retard proceeds to repeat me. Both predictable and classic.

Ordinarily people live and learn. You just live.

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Ordinarily people live and learn. You just live.

Keep going BFT3K. Nonstop humor.

BFT3K · 02-11-2010, 10:49 PM

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Keep going BFT3K. Nonstop humor.

I finally figured out who you remind me of....

Vizzini, the pseudo intelligent idiot from The Princess Bride!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

The Demon · 02-11-2010, 11:17 PM

Look at him go..

BFT3K · 02-12-2010, 09:39 AM

Bump for more political anger.

seeandsee · 02-12-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Just saw this pic and I thought it was interesting. Food for thought.

damn terrorist

BFT3K · 02-12-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

damn terrorist

Yeah, damn terrorists!

and insurance companies too... Damn Insurance Companies!

KILL_FRENZY · 02-12-2010, 01:13 PM

Touchy subject. That's because most Americans are typically scared shitless of any insecurity and a bit paranoid. So having a powerful defense is better than having something to actually defend...

IllTestYourGirls · 02-12-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

holy shit.. those are some crazy numbers:

"The Harvard study found that people without health insurance had a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance — as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The risk appears to have increased since 1993, when a similar study found the risk of death was 25 percent greater for the uninsured"

Yeah that is pretty scary. It clearly states that those who have government health care get fucked pretty hard. Most people who can not afford "private health insurance" can get help by the government.

Fact: Percent wise, the government turns down more needed medical procedures than any private insurance company.

What has changed since 1993? A lot more people are on medicare/aid

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...medicaid_x.htm

But this propaganda piece doesn't want critical thinking. I wonder if this was part of the government funded propaganda the Obama admin bought?

DudeRick · 02-12-2010, 03:38 PM

Bullshit!

02-11-2010, 06:12 PM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Deaths by terrorism Vs lack of healthcare. Just saw this pic and I thought it was interesting. Food for thought.

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GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	I am all for socialized health care so long as someone follows some simple rules: You live healthy, or you pay for it yourself. It's not my fucking problem you had a heart attack at 32 because you've done nothing but eat McDonalds your entire life. Fuck you, I already have to pay for your kids. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

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fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	The ad says, "Invade a hospital." If terrorists invade the hospital and kill terminally ill patients this would reduce a lot of costs. But, of course that would be inhumane. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

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Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	You are trying to appeal to americans with a reasonable argument. Such an effort is doomed. Americans are pretty much all hysterical little girls. just a thought.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	holy shit.. those are some crazy numbers: "The Harvard study found that people without health insurance had a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance — as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The risk appears to have increased since 1993, when a similar study found the risk of death was 25 percent greater for the uninsured"

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moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	lol americans you guys get fucked harder than anyone else in the world by your government its pretty sad to see

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	The side that fears terrorism will tell you that we are at risk of being nuked and having 100,000 wiped out in one shot.

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heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	No matter how much money you throw at terrorism you can't be called a socialist. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Bump for more political anger.

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DudeRick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tobacco Road Posts: 1,568	Bullshit!