![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
||||
Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
![]() ![]() |
|
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
|
Thread Tools |
![]() |
#1 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Does today's porn really suck?
I've loved porn since the first time I saw it. I used to rent it on VHS tapes. I was a regular at the porn shops in town. It was like a hobby. Especially on days I couldn't get laid! Back then the porn from the 80's and maybe into the early 90's kicked ass. Something you don't see as much off.... the chick's smiling. The women don't seem to smile like they used to. They looked like they were into it. These chicks just look like they want the dough so they can get their next fix.
Not only that. But, there was that little shot right before the cumshot. The shot of the guy in what looked like pure pleasure. You saw that and then you saw the jizz fly. No matter if it was real or fake, it sure did make the movie more fun to watch. You don't even see the guy's face in a lot of porn today. Women that don't smile and guys that don't show their faces. To top it all off, there's no good music. There was only one place to hear that music. After a few drinks or whatever that music starts to sound good. No music, sad chicks, and no face shot before the money shot. While I might not be the most sober among us today. I do believe I'm kind of heartbroken over the quality of porn that I see. Which begs me to ask.... What sponsor is selling the good porn to the customer? Don't tell me you didn't laugh at least one time when when Ron Jeremy made those faces right before the cumshot. That was classic film. If I had a cigar and a glass with a couple fingers of good booze in it I would feel like an old man talking about this. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Let's do some business!
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,294
|
I flip through a lot of porn and my #1 complaint is seeing the guys face or hearing his stupid little jokes when I'm trying to watch an ass bounce up and down.
I think it's kind of weird that you are disappointed you don't see the guys face right before the pop. LOL.
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available - just $50/mo Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Also that one movie with Ron Jeremy in it. I don't remember what it was called. I seem to remember a chick that was lactating. After Ron Jeremy shot his load he started to talk like the guy from The Godfather. Someone other than me has had to see that one? They used to be kind of crazy like that. Or that one where Peter North dresses up like a super hero?
Maybe the talent sucks today. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: ICQ :: 34739932 :: Les Pays-Bas
Posts: 1,707
|
Facial expressions are way underrated, and if they appear, often too fake
Focus lies completely on penetration these days which is a shame cause having good sex is so much more than that, even to watch |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 | |
one sick puppy
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Where the worst of the West meets the worst of the East
Posts: 11,485
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
www.AdultCopywriters.com
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 31,587
|
It's not as good as it used to be.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 | |
Choice is an Illusion
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635
|
![]() Quote:
I simply do not watch porn that has a guy in it any more based on the old flicks where you would get the dude and his remarks, his face, some shithead off cam being 'the coach' and so on. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Quote:
I always thought the idea of watching porn was to have fun. Those jokes were to be part of the experience. Part of the fun. After all, you can't take a movie too serious that was made for you to jerk off too. We aren't talking Gone with the Wind here. We wanted to see people having fun and guys living out that fantasy. That's what it was all about. The fantasy. Now, even if it were fantasy you wouldn't see nothing. Just a cock and a chick that seems to have forgotten to smile. Maybe the guy could have the unsigned check taped to his pubes to remind her to smile from time to time. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 7,103
|
Quote:
I still haven't found a porn star that compares to Loni Sanders. She had the ultimate "fuck me" face. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Choice is an Illusion
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635
|
Sorry toots. You're just desensitized.
I know from a fetish stand point, the porn is DEAD THE FUCK ON for catering to the shots and needs of the fetish folk. We do not get the crumbs and shit that Vivid and some of the old school porn companies tried to pass off as fetish porn. A foot flying in the air, a 2 second toe lick, and lingering shot of her shoe while being fucked, etc.. Those were all classics back in the day and box covers would be marketed, and rip off, people looking for micro niches. Now the porn is more tailored to those of us who want more specific things. Not ALL of the videos, even foot videos, hit the spot for me. But there is a lot better material now then there was even back mid 90's. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |
:glugglug
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Where the Wild Things Are
Posts: 26,118
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 | |
Choice is an Illusion
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635
|
Quote:
They do not need HD, nor perfect lighting, or the hottest women on the planet to rub one out. They need scenes that focus on their fetish at the right angles and duration. Girls doing the right thing in the scene and looking like, or being into it. How do I know? Because patrons write me. I also seek out their boards and read their comments. Not one time have I ever seen them talk about HD, nor say it would be better in HD. They talk about the angles, and if the girls is into it, the length of the scene among other things. It sounds to me like you are one of these believers who thing all porn must be professional shot in the best lighting, HD, mega screen res., and the hottest women on the planet. That is 100% wrong. Especially in the fetish markets. It simply reinforces how little mainstream guys know about niche. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Quote:
I think the shot of the guy right before the cumshot is fantastic. Especially if we're talking facials or cum on tits. It gives the chick a chance to smile. I want to see a chick smile and be happy that cum is going to land on her. I want her to be as excited to watch him shoot semen on her face as I am. No matter even if it makes her sick. I want to see a woman enjoying some semen. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#15 | |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: sf
Posts: 938
|
Quote:
Right! Mass distribution, creates mass production which creates a formula to optimize cost of production, which creates a a generic product in any business. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#16 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
![]() Also what the fuck is up with the couches? I'm so sick of seeing people fuck on couches. Everything is done from a couch. Buy a bed. If they have to use couches get some custom upholstery done so it doesn't look like total shit. Like someone took the couch out of their parent's house long enough to shoot a porn video. Spend some money to make the place look half way decent. All you really need to do is know a queer that likes to go to the thrift shops
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#17 | |||
Too old to care
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws.
Posts: 52,943
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
A few sites and companies have bucked this trend and their numbers are holding, because the others just don't meet customers expectations over and over again. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#18 |
Registered User
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,760
|
You are just nostalgic. What you describe is what sucks on porn movies the most. The fact that there is less stupid music and no stupid guy faces, makes porn more quality, actually. I didn't realize girls weren't smiling during porn nowadays, I don't think many women smile during having sex in real life either.
Its like telling: "I miss the old times when all people were like happy teddybears, smiling all the time, holding hands and helping each other." Those times never were, but people mostly remember only the good things from the past, so they have an illusion of things beeing better back in the day. When the fact is, that people didn't really change. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#19 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
|
Quote:
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day.. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#20 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Quote:
Yes, the Where's the Beef old lady was funny. It was fun trying to see if there was an end to Pitfall. And yes, porn was fantasy and not reality. I don't know how often a woman smiles. You see, reality sucks. That's why we watch entertainment. I don't care what a woman does in reality. It must have been the Pepsi Throwback. That's what threw my mind out of whack. Who knew real sugar tasted so good?! |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#21 |
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
|
I would say that just like the "old days"...some porn is really good and some is just average.
And just like the "old days" it all comes down to what you are watching. Back in the early 1980's I went to my first adult bookstore in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl and went on a buying spree. I ended up with a dozen or so videos that I thought would be good judging by the box cover. Nope. They all were boring. I finally put together a "gonzo" tape (which is what a LOT of folks used to do) which was basically taking out all the filler crap and going straight to the fucking. I ended up with a 2 hour tape that kicked ass! Now THAT was a tape a guy could jerk off to everytime. Fast forward to now: Yes, if you watch the generic porn being put out by the bigger companies it does all start to look the same. They can't help it. When you have one in-house "director" having to come up with 4 or 5 scenarios a day using the same dozen porn valley girls and guys over and over and over...well, the creativity is hard to keep at a quality level. How many times can you put Puma Swede in glasses and call her a "granny" and then turn around and put her in pigtails and call her a "teen"? (actually that sounds like something I'd like to do in private with her...lol) But there are lots of people out here shooting good porn that caters to the EXACT needs and wants of the people. If you like skinny teen girls getting fucked by big black cock...I will guarantee you that there is a porn site right now doing a better job of that than ANY company from the past ever did. Same with every niche. You just have to find them and stop generalizing the entire industry by what that little self-absorbed place called "Porn Valley" does. Porn Valley is NOT the industry anymore. It's not even close. It's just where they still put out DVD's that nobody buys, nothing more. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#22 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 529
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#24 |
Too old to care
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws.
Posts: 52,943
|
Of course it's the older generation. The younger generation weren't there to experience it.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#25 | ||
Too old to care
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws.
Posts: 52,943
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#26 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,323
|
Today's porn is too generic. Pornographers have lost touch with what people really want. Sometimes the porn sucks so much, I am already starting to think this is a big conspiracy of the porn producers to make their porn look bad so that they can sell more of it...
__________________
--- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#27 |
Registered User
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,760
|
I think porn has never been better. Nowadays you can find pretty much everything...hundreds of niches, big or small, some you didn't even heard of, everyone finds what he is looking for. So no clue what you mean with generic, if there is such a huge variety of movies.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#28 |
GFY's Halfpint
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 15,223
|
yeah man bring back the good old 70s -80s porn with all those hairy pussys and real boobs
Way to much fake crap around now |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#29 |
I help you SUCCEED
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas
Posts: 32,195
|
You mentioned music... You're spot on. Nothing beats 70s porn funk music. Lots of wa wa effects and funky base lines. There's even CD collections that came out in the 90s that featured anthologies of 70s German porn background music.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#30 | |
Too old to care
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws.
Posts: 52,943
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#31 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
|
i watched plenty of 80s porn when i was younger.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day.. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#32 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Happy in the dark.
Posts: 93,111
|
I just don't know ...
__________________
FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes! |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#33 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,687
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#34 |
Too old to care
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws.
Posts: 52,943
|
So are you saying that with reduced budgets, models faking it more and over production it's a better product today?
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#35 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
|
i wouldn't say better...just as with any medium, it progresses for better or worse. The fact that i don't like the music, or guy face shots is a preference but one that it seems is shared by many. i couldn't care less about budgets. if the girl is hot and getting fucked hard, thats the main points for me. one thing i really remember about 80s porn was the loops. it doesn't seem like they do that anymore. it was really annoying.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day.. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#36 | |
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
|
Quote:
Just like in music and art...being a big studio doesn't neccessarily mean that you have a superior product. And every year somebody, somewhere will come along and build on the past to make a better product today. Today we can light up a set far better than they used to with a LOT less heat in the room. We can shoot and edit with one handheld prosumer cam that costs 5 grand and get better quality than guys using a couple of quarter million dollar cams could. The only thing that made porn of yesterday AND of today suck was when it's shot by a big company that hires a guy to shoot scenes for a dozen different niches. It's impossible to have creativity and real quality like that. So they hire a guy who can churn out a consistently "good" scene for them. No more, no less. Just like the "old days". |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#37 |
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
|
Oh God. I hated that shit. It was so fucking obvious and so lame that they were looping the same shit over and over. Pathetic and uncreative. I don't know of anybody currently doing that lame ass shit.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#38 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,801
|
Right in the old days all money shots would be preceeded by an endless clip of the male talent's face - how horrible and gay was that? Total scene killer. When the public started getting what is wanted, all that went away.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#39 |
..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: California
Posts: 4,327
|
I like retro better sometimes, new shit other times, depends on the niche
__________________
... |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#40 |
ICQ: 197-556-237
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: BRASIL !!!
Posts: 57,559
|
It's not as good as it used to be. [2]
__________________
I'm just a newbie. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#41 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 11,039
|
it could be better, good old pornstars are getting fat and there aren't a lot of new babes that fit in the pornstar category.
__________________
NICERATIOS - $30 PPS - 50% Rev Share - 5% WM Referral - High Converting Sites!
Any questions about your NICERATIOS account? Vanessa will take care of you: [email protected] Looking to expand your business in general, maybe sell your sites? Contact me: [email protected] |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |