Pros & Cons of living in Canada - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

kronic · 03-06-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

i lived there for 4 years. everything is overpriced if you're used to living in the US. quality goods are scarce unless you ebay shop and have everything delivered, paying a fortune in duties and brokerage fees. its also very cold, the oil in your car will freeze without a block heater. i used to have to remove my battery every night as it would freeze and be useless too if I didn't bring it indoors and sit it near a heater. your heating bills will be high as fuck. there is 1 black person every 1000 square miles unless you're in toronto or a bit city with islander immigrants and/or displaced africans freeing political asylum. canada is a plan "b" for them as they tried to get into the US first but got their visas held up so they're sticking it out. cars are rusty and old. there are no warranties to be upheld on anything, even if you got it in writing fuck you... there is no legal recourse. everyone drinks lakers and honey beer by the case daily from the beer store. customs will strip your car down, rip your carpet out and even remove the upholstery on your seats if you are american. even if you're a legal canadian resident like me, they know you're not native born and will fuck with you for hours at border crossings. also the money is colored brown, red, blue, and all sorts of other gay colors. there are no 1 or 2 dollar bills. cell phones are expensive. bread is expensive. lack of familiar US brands, too much englishUK influences on everything. -40 degree nights. stupid, just really stupid and large white girls. the french speaking girls are hot, petite, athletic matress monsters. and they like black dudes a lot. oh, and before i forget. there are a few native indians there that people treat like shit, which works out to my advantage. thats my canada experience, yours may vary.

"i used to have to remove my battery every night as it would freeze and be useless too if I didn't bring it indoors and sit it near a heater."

So, you got caught stealing your neighbors battery and that's the defense you used? I can only assume.

Most of the rest though is designed to keep the black man out (cold weather, customs stripping down your car etc. etc.)

We've been trying with large food incentives to get the white fatties exported to the US to keep more blacks out, but so far that's failed. That's one of the biggest issues this session of Parliament. Get rid of fattie and the black man will surely follow.

Bman · 03-06-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

All they pay is GST/PST, who fucking cares about that? I'm talking about not paying Federal and provincial income tax. I don't even really care that they get tax breaks on smokes / booze / gas, which is still pretty fucking stupid.

In order to get any status recognition you need to have 2 parents or grandparents who are registered status indians. Otherwise you need to be able to prove your native ancestry.

Passing as a Metis person, DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM TAXES. So I don't know what blue-eyes blonde indians you were talking to, but they were full of shit.

We also offer immigrants a beautiful tax exmeption period upon moving to Canada. What the fuck is that all about? I'm a citizen of the god damned country and I never got a taxfree year in my life. Why the fuck are they given a free pass to move here? If you want to live here, come and pay taxes like the rest of the country's born citizens.

Another shitstorm that irritates the living fuck out of me. Foreigners can come here, get a work visa, work for their minimum number of hours, get a layoff, and collect Canadian unemployment insurance that they have never paid into up until this point? GTFO, you're not a citizen, how the fuck are you collecting UI paid for by citizens?

Uhmm do you even realise that they are not Canadian...lol they have their own Nation. Go try and get BCHydro or a phone line or a cable line on a reservation see what it costs... I use to work in the telco industry and a common quote was 20k to 30k to install a line on a reservation. Thats why you see satelite dishes. They have their own government. They are also considered North American citizens and have the right to live in either the US or Canada.

Juicy D. Links · 03-06-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

cons: its filled with canadians...

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Juicy D. Links · 03-06-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

tell them the vietnam draft is over so they can come home....

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

this is the community daycare center...we hope to get a larger raft next year

Juicy D. Links · 03-06-2010, 07:08 PM

canadia has this

shimmy2 · 03-06-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman

Uhmm do you even realise that they are not Canadian...lol they have their own Nation. Go try and get BCHydro or a phone line or a cable line on a reservation see what it costs... I use to work in the telco industry and a common quote was 20k to 30k to install a line on a reservation. Thats why you see satelite dishes. They have their own government. They are also considered North American citizens and have the right to live in either the US or Canada.

all of the above is true bman. though i have to admit the natives have it better on the canada side of the border in terms of monies and services. i've lived and worked on reservations in both countries. unfortunately most reservations look really 3rd world. you will often see shiny brand new cars/trucks parked in front of a shack with no windows or doors. they have government money coming in and get all sorts of kickbacks yet they still struggle to get by. so they do scenes in between checks haha... but think about it, if u got a taxfree indian status card, a monthly percapita check just for being indian, casino earnings kickbacks, and huge government reparations settlements every few years (the latest big case check in canada was the settlement over how schoolteachers treated indians badly 30yrs ago... 100% of canadian status indians alive got paid big if they're still living today) man i'd be indefinitely set for life and want probably wait for the mailman to bring my check too. you're so right about prices being inflated on the reserves too. everything costs BIG money because so few vendors do business there.

CybermedAndy · 03-06-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter

Taxes, taxes, taxes, etc....

This

Otherwise its the greatest place on earth

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman

You obviously dont live here lol ;)

LOL.

Sabby

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Cons... It's cold for 9 months.

Plus 18C here today.. the willow trees all have leaves and the cherry, apple, and pink flower trees have all bloomed.

Sabby

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-06-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

all of the above is true bman. though i have to admit the natives have it better on the canada side of the border in terms of monies and services. i've lived and worked on reservations in both countries. unfortunately most reservations look really 3rd world. you will often see shiny brand new cars/trucks parked in front of a shack with no windows or doors. they have government money coming in and get all sorts of kickbacks yet they still struggle to get by. so they do scenes in between checks haha... but think about it, if u got a taxfree indian status card, a monthly percapita check just for being indian, casino earnings kickbacks, and huge government reparations settlements every few years (the latest big case check in canada was the settlement over how schoolteachers treated indians badly 30yrs ago... 100% of canadian status indians alive got paid big if they're still living today) man i'd be indefinitely set for life and want probably wait for the mailman to bring my check too. you're so right about prices being inflated on the reserves too. everything costs BIG money because so few vendors do business there.

Way back int he day I used to work as a swamper on a hydrovac truck. Our truck's territory was mostly situated in and around a northern alberta indian reservation. You could tell where the reservation boundaries started, because that's where the refrigerators and washing machines in the ditch start, and they continue down any road you follow until you leave the rez. Oh, and watch the fuck out for stray dogs and children, they are everywhere. They run out on the road like deer from the strangest places.

They don't drill water wells out there, they have giant freshwater tanks. Why? Because it is cheaper to truck them water for the lifespan of the house than it is to drill a well! The entire reservation looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. Beautiful new houses, gutted, destroyed and left to weather.

I almost thought my driver was joking when he told me, then a while afterward I was rigging up to a tank just behind a yard on the rez mid afternoon. I see a school bus roll up on the road, and 4 little native kids come strolling off. At this point I usually stand around on the edge of the oil lease and smoke cigarettes for an hour or so trying not to fall asleep while the truck pumps, so I have a goof extended period to watch these kids. What do these little shits do?

They go into the backyard which was facing our worksite, so I can see everything they are doing. They start throwing rocks at the wall. Then they're beating it with sticks. Once they get some nice holes broke in the siding, they get their sticks underneath and start prying it up. Then they tag up on it and start ripping the fucking siding off the house. Brand new house getting just thrashed, and this is how 90% of the homes there look. It's fucking sickening.

Go hang out in Onion Lake, Hobema, Sunchild. Fucking ghhhhhhhetto. You better hope you don't run out of gas on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Your vehicle won't make morning without being a smashed heap of shit...

Obviously this isn't every reservation or every native person, but jesus fuck are there some bad ones. It reminds of way back I was sitting in a little northern oil town bar having some drinks and I'm talking with this old indian dude, real funny guy. He tells me this "You know, there's indians, and there's fucking indians, and there's a WHOOOOOOOLE LOT of fucking indians..." I just about shat myself laughing.

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Way back int he day I used to work as a swamper on a hydrovac truck. Our truck's territory was mostly situated in and around a northern alberta indian reservation. You could tell where the reservation boundaries started, because that's where the refrigerators and washing machines in the ditch start, and they continue down any road you follow until you leave the rez. Oh, and watch the fuck out for stray dogs and children, they are everywhere. They run out on the road like deer from the strangest places.

They don't drill water wells out there, they have giant freshwater tanks. Why? Because it is cheaper to truck them water for the lifespan of the house than it is to drill a well! The entire reservation looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. Beautiful new houses, gutted, destroyed and left to weather.

I almost thought my driver was joking when he told me, then a while afterward I was rigging up to a tank just behind a yard on the rez mid afternoon. I see a school bus roll up on the road, and 4 little native kids come strolling off. At this point I usually stand around on the edge of the oil lease and smoke cigarettes for an hour or so trying not to fall asleep while the truck pumps, so I have a goof extended period to watch these kids. What do these little shits do?

They go into the backyard which was facing our worksite, so I can see everything they are doing. They start throwing rocks at the wall. Then they're beating it with sticks. Once they get some nice holes broke in the siding, they get their sticks underneath and start prying it up. Then they tag up on it and start ripping the fucking siding off the house. Brand new house getting just thrashed, and this is how 90% of the homes there look. It's fucking sickening.

Go hang out in Onion Lake, Hobema, Sunchild. Fucking ghhhhhhhetto. You better hope you don't run out of gas on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Your vehicle won't make morning without being a smashed heap of shit...

Obviously this isn't every reservation or every native person, but jesus fuck are there some bad ones. It reminds of way back I was sitting in a little northern oil town bar having some drinks and I'm talking with this old indian dude, real funny guy. He tells me this "You know, there's indians, and there's fucking indians, and there's a WHOOOOOOOLE LOT of fucking indians..." I just about shat myself laughing.

I could so go on a rant....

Sabby

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 08:42 PM

Actually fucking funniest thing ever I moved to West Coast BC from Saskatoon... I was there 1 year and having my kids robbed daily at knife point and my house broken into when I was in it we had enough...

Less than 1 month Im in BC my car is stolen... Amazingly recovered 3 days later in a neighbouring town... with a driver... Native... and he got off cause he said his friend gave him the car with the key. (valet key left in glove box even though window smashed in to steal the car.)

Sabby

SuzzyQ · 03-06-2010, 09:53 PM

Cons: Canada is where all the fuckin cold air comes from.

moeloubani · 03-06-2010, 10:21 PM

lol i think a lot of americans think that every other country out there is skimping on something since they seem to always be out of money

in canada we have everything you do in the US, if we want to pay for medical care we can go to the US, or we can stay where we are and get it for free. taxes are pretty much the exact same as the US but people are way nicer, we are amazing at the winter olympics and our hockey is phenomenal

i love canada!!!!

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

lol i think a lot of americans think that every other country out there is skimping on something since they seem to always be out of money

in canada we have everything you do in the US, if we want to pay for medical care we can go to the US, or we can stay where we are and get it for free. taxes are pretty much the exact same as the US but people are way nicer, we are amazing at the winter olympics and our hockey is phenomenal

i love canada!!!!

Good point on the health care.

And I am forever grateful for the CDN heath system my dad is like the bionic Man.. a liver transplant.. 2 sholders and a knee replacement ... damn.

My mom has beaten Cancer divorced my Dad.. she deserves a GOLD medal...

Sabby

Sabby · 03-06-2010, 10:31 PM

And dont tell me I could get my eye surgery cheaper in the US.

Sabby

Sid70 · 03-07-2010, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Cons: Canada is where all the fuckin cold air comes from.

Obviously you are wrong. All the cold comes down from Rooskie !

Sid70 · 03-07-2010, 02:27 AM

Reading it about medicine, I didn't realize that canadians and americans play that pin-pong bad-good game as we do with rooskie here.

At least I guess you can assure me that they have beds in hospitals at all and while in treatment in the hospital patients get all they need as of medications, everyday meal ( that is ok to eat ) and all the other stuff like clean bathrooms and showers.

To compare to the US, i just can tell that a buddy of mine, being in a good shape, told me a story once, he scratched his leg and didnt care to clean the wound properly, so in 2 days he was in problem and spent 2 days in the hospital. USD 2,5k flat that was his bill. Can you relate any canadian experince?

quiet · 03-07-2010, 06:09 AM

sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

Sid70 · 03-07-2010, 09:12 AM

Do Canadians pay anything extra ( except taxes ) for public schools ( study books, are they free also?)? How much is paying day care?

Sid70 · 03-07-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet

sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

good example, thanks, man.

SuzzyQ · 03-07-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix

Obviously you are wrong. All the cold comes down from Rooskie !

Canada gets the cold from the Rooskies, we get the cold from Canada.

Sid70 · 03-07-2010, 03:30 PM

love the answers, pls, anyone, see my list of questions above.

Quagmire · 03-07-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

The cost still would have been zero, because once you saw the bill for spending a month in the hospital you'd have died of a heart attack.

03-07-2010, 09:37 PM

Cons (of living in Montreal)
- I think Quebec has the highest personal income taxes in North America
- Weather is fucking shit in both summer and winter
- Roads are absolutely disgusting, forget about a sports car
- French canadians are terrible to live with

Pros
- Amazing nightlife
- Hottest girls aside from Las Vegas
- Non stop festivals, celebrations, social events

Elli · 03-07-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix

Do Canadians pay anything extra ( except taxes ) for public schools ( study books, are they free also?)? How much is paying day care?

We have a public school system. You can also opt for private schools, which are usually Catholic or other religion-run. The schools are shifting more and more cost to the parents. Kids used to be sent home with a list for about $50 worth of books and pencils to show up with. Now they recommend the kids have laptops n shit. But school is still free. You can apply for subsidies if you're of low income levels.

Actual Mike · 03-07-2010, 10:52 PM

Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen

will76 · 03-07-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix

Yo, basically i can imagine pros but what about cons? Anyhoo, feel free to post your lists. Thanks.

What is the income tax rates in Canada, and Sales tax ?

the Shemp · 03-07-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

What is the income tax rates in Canada, and Sales tax ?

income tax rates are here:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

will76 · 03-07-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

income tax rates are here:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

So if I read that correct, over 126K you are paying between 40%-50% between federal and provincial taxes? (depending on the provincial tax rates).

For the same amount of money made in the US ($82,251 – $171,550) you are in a 28% Federal tax bracket and you will also pay from 0% - 10% in State taxes, depending on the state. So in the US you would be paying 28% - 38% in taxes depending on which state you live in.

So if I live in Florida and I make 150K, I pay 28% in taxes. If I lived in Manitoba with Sleazy I would be paying 46.40% in taxes.

Florida: $42,000 taxes
Manitoba: $69,600 taxes

For an extra $27,600 I think I would rather pay for my own health care which would be at most a couple thousand dollars a year.

What about sales taxes on average. Here in the US its about 9% .

the Shemp · 03-08-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

So if I read that correct, over 126K you are paying between 40%-50% between federal and provincial taxes? (depending on the provincial tax rates).

For the same amount of money made in the US ($82,251 ? $171,550) you are in a 28% Federal tax bracket and you will also pay from 0% - 10% in State taxes, depending on the state. So in the US you would be paying 28% - 38% in taxes depending on which state you live in.

So if I live in Florida and I make 150K, I pay 28% in taxes. If I lived in Manitoba with Sleazy I would be paying 46.40% in taxes.

Florida: $42,000 taxes
Manitoba: $69,600 taxes

For an extra $27,600 I think I would rather pay for my own health care which would be at most a couple thousand dollars a year.

What about sales taxes on average. Here in the US its about 9% .

check the page again, thats not the way it works...

rollinthunder · 03-08-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

4 golf courses in Whistler, and a shitload of bars/lounges for a town of 10K. anyway, my point is... i'm a drinker too!

I will have to check it out some day. Still not a big fan of fat girls in hoodies who think they are hot. Seems to be my experience with Canadian bars. However, Whistler is probably different, being a tourist destination.

rollinthunder · 03-08-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bdjuf

Cons (of living in Montreal)
- I think Quebec has the highest personal income taxes in North America
- Weather is fucking shit in both summer and winter
- Roads are absolutely disgusting, forget about a sports car
- French canadians are terrible to live with

Pros
- Amazing nightlife
- Hottest girls aside from Las Vegas
- Non stop festivals, celebrations, social events

The nightlife was good in Montreal 5 years ago. The only place worth going to these days is Hilltop. I hate french people.

Nickatilynx · 03-08-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WirecardMike

Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen

And Against:

Celine Dion

;)

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-08-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman

\Go try and get BCHydro or a phone line or a cable line on a reservation see what it costs... I use to work in the telco industry and a common quote was 20k to 30k to install a line on a reservation.

Has little to do with it being a reservation. Run a new phone/electric/gas line to a new farmyard that's a ways away from existing lines and you'll get the exact same quotes.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-08-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike

Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen

Ya sorry, but all we got going for us is Rush

Actual Mike · 03-08-2010, 12:29 PM

Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

BlackCrayon · 03-08-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WirecardMike

Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

i get so sick of people saying that..the hip is pretty generic and boring.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-08-2010, 01:04 PM

The Hip suck balls. I'd kick Gord Downie in his faggot ass if I saw him walking down the street...

raymor · 03-08-2010, 01:13 PM

Canada as compared to where? The US? Compared to the US, it's run by a bunch
of "left wing liberal democrats", which is either a pro or con, depending on what you like.
You get government run healthcare and all the other nanny state stuff you may love (or
hate). You no longer have a bunch evil conservative businessmen telling you the
country is founded on personal responsibility, self sufficiency, or personal freedom.
Are those pros or cons? I don't know, I guess it depends on you. Personally, I'd rather
pay $35 to see my doctor tomorrow rather than wait a month and pay $168 in taxes to
see the doctor "for free". But if you like the ideas put forth by Obabma, Pelosi, and
the like, I bet you'd LOVE Canada, from what my Canadian friends have told me. For
example, Canada does about twice as much "helping the poor" aka "taxing the people
who work" than the US does. That is to say, the term "welfare state" applies to
Canada about twice as much as it applies to the US. I'm actually quite surprised that
more of the people trying to turn the US into more of a welfare state, create a
Canadian style health system, etc. don't just go to Canada, where they already have
exactly what the liberals are trying to create. it seems like they'd love it there.

I understand it can be a bit tough to immigrate to Canada. It seems they want people who "will make a significant contribution to the cultural or athletic life of Canada", and
certain skilled workers. I wonder if maybe a trade could be arranged. The US will
take 200,000 of Canada's culturally deficient people who listen to crappy music while
working, if Canada will will take 200,000 of our poets, folk singers, and other culturally
wonderful people who will bring their own cans for you to put dollars in. We'll throw in a
few athletes too - we have plenty to spare. What do the Canadians on the board
think, could we work something out? Maybe start with my brother, a poet and
photographer who will make those cultural contributions you're looking for, in exchange
for hat damn capitalist Brad Gosse, who is messing up your country so bad by going
around making money and spending it, creating those damn jobs and getting people
off welfare. I'm sure you'd love to get rid of him, and we don't really need my brother
that much - we have enough drunk poets down here.

Bryan G · 03-08-2010, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike

Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

Please.... the hip are complete shit

Sid70 · 03-08-2010, 02:12 PM

The whole Canadian immigration could sound overrated for people living in developed countries of EU. More, almost any EU based person don't need a visa to go to USA or Canada to visit, and need to make much less efforts to stay there longer then 90 days on opening a business purpose.

Comparing to that, people outside EU they need visas everywhere and that's why immigration - taking your gig to another level.

Say, here we pay $20-$50 to visit a doctor too. Free medicine can be used for very simple things but you'd have your day ruined after waiting and
seeing a doctor who never even say hi to you. Medicine, we pay for it, and we pay same EU prices because mostly it's imported. Bigger problem is if there is anyting serious that involves hospitals and procedures, that's hard to get in time and on a decent level for people who can't pay it.

Big problem is locally people need doctors sooner because of unstable government stealing their money and health.

Sid70 · 03-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan

Please.... the hip are complete shit

I just went to listen the hip and it certainly tells me where Jon Lajoie took his ideas from

Actual Mike · 03-08-2010, 02:43 PM

New Orleans is Sinking...haters :P

2MuchMark · 03-08-2010, 02:54 PM

Pros:
- Low Crime
- Clean Cities
- Lots of Nature. Clean Lakes.
- Girls are cute.
- Schools are good.

Cons:
- Taxes are insane
- Cost of housing is too high
- Fucking Language Police are Neo-Nazi bastards
- In Quebec, if you don't speak French, you're a second class citizen.
- Too Cold, too long.
- (Montreal: Potholes everywhere!)
- (Montreal: People are rude, rude, rude)
- (Quebec: Taxes! Here, you pay Tax ON Tax.
- Cell phone service: Very expensive when compared to the US.
- Cost of Gas : $1.10 PER LITRE, or about $4.15 per Gallon

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-08-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike

New Orleans is Sinking...haters :P

One good song does not make you a great band, lol.

Rochard · 03-08-2010, 03:24 PM

Con: It's cold there.
Pro: It's better than France.

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raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Canada as compared to where? The US? Compared to the US, it's run by a bunch of "left wing liberal democrats", which is either a pro or con, depending on what you like. You get government run healthcare and all the other nanny state stuff you may love (or hate). You no longer have a bunch evil conservative businessmen telling you the country is founded on personal responsibility, self sufficiency, or personal freedom. Are those pros or cons? I don't know, I guess it depends on you. Personally, I'd rather pay $35 to see my doctor tomorrow rather than wait a month and pay $168 in taxes to see the doctor "for free". But if you like the ideas put forth by Obabma, Pelosi, and the like, I bet you'd LOVE Canada, from what my Canadian friends have told me. For example, Canada does about twice as much "helping the poor" aka "taxing the people who work" than the US does. That is to say, the term "welfare state" applies to Canada about twice as much as it applies to the US. I'm actually quite surprised that more of the people trying to turn the US into more of a welfare state, create a Canadian style health system, etc. don't just go to Canada, where they already have exactly what the liberals are trying to create. it seems like they'd love it there. I understand it can be a bit tough to immigrate to Canada. It seems they want people who "will make a significant contribution to the cultural or athletic life of Canada", and certain skilled workers. I wonder if maybe a trade could be arranged. The US will take 200,000 of Canada's culturally deficient people who listen to crappy music while working, if Canada will will take 200,000 of our poets, folk singers, and other culturally wonderful people who will bring their own cans for you to put dollars in. We'll throw in a few athletes too - we have plenty to spare. What do the Canadians on the board think, could we work something out? Maybe start with my brother, a poet and photographer who will make those cultural contributions you're looking for, in exchange for hat damn capitalist Brad Gosse, who is messing up your country so bad by going around making money and spending it, creating those damn jobs and getting people off welfare. I'm sure you'd love to get rid of him, and we don't really need my brother that much - we have enough drunk poets down here. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

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