Shades of President Truman's firing of General McArthur...General McCrystal - GoFuckYourself.com

theking · 06-22-2010, 08:05 AM

...may be fired by President Obama for insubordination. The General has been ordered home from Afghanistan for a face to face meeting with the President. All of this due to a Rolling Stone interview with the General and his staff.

theking · 06-22-2010, 01:01 PM

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...may be fired by President Obama for insubordination. The General has been ordered home from Afghanistan for a face to face meeting with the President. All of this due to a Rolling Stone interview with the General and his staff.

Any input about this subject?

quiet · 06-22-2010, 01:05 PM

link to the article?

theking · 06-22-2010, 01:17 PM

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link to the article?

The story has been on the news all day...so any major media outlet should have the story.

dyna mo · 06-22-2010, 01:18 PM

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link to the article?

another great piece from rs

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

dyna mo · 06-22-2010, 01:18 PM

if you really want to get your mind blown, read this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 01:19 PM

He should and will likely be fired. That level of insubordination cannot be tolerated.

Tom_PM · 06-22-2010, 01:23 PM

Oh my yes, he's probably being prevented from seppuku as we speak.

I saw on the news that it was all because of that icelandic volcano diverting flights. So the reporter was with them for a month, and they clearly let their guard down and let the shit fly. Idiots. He's brought dishonor to himself and his units and his country frankly. What a fuckup.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 01:27 PM

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Any input about this subject?

Other than the commanding officer in the Middle East having to leave his post and fly halfway across the world because our incompetent President is butthurt from the factual comments made about his administration?

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 01:27 PM

What a waste. 4 Star General will be court martialed and dishonorably discharged because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. UCMJ is pretty clear on this.

Tom_PM · 06-22-2010, 01:32 PM

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Other than the commanding officer in the Middle East having to leave his post and fly halfway across the world because our incompetent President is butthurt from the factual comments made about his administration?

lmfao, good comedy. Stick with it, it's a living.

BestXXXPorn · 06-22-2010, 01:47 PM

The truth will not be tolerated by the establishment... being a 4 star you'd think he'd have that shit on lock down ;)

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 01:56 PM

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Other than the commanding officer in the Middle East having to leave his post and fly halfway across the world because our incompetent President is butthurt from the factual comments made about his administration?

That's all we need to complete the transformation for you isn't it? A military General running the country. I'm leaning towards the possibility that the civilians in charge have no intention of allowing that to happen.

The General has already offered up his resignation, and he hasn't even made it to the White House yet. Personally, my opinion is that Obama needs to make a very public example of this man, reject his resignation, and fire him instead... on TV if possible. This isn't his first offense or the first time he's needed "talking to" by the Pres. The Pres. has been lenient and now it's time to publicly shit can this nut. Military members, and especially military leaders, do not get the right to talk shit about their superiors. It's in black & white writing. If he wants to express himself, he must exit the military to do so. While he is in, he is Government Property. And he knows it.

Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and give consideration to more than your next slice of pizza.

bushwacker · 06-22-2010, 01:58 PM

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That's all we need to complete the transformation for you isn't it? A military General running the country. I'm leaning towards the possibility that the civilians in charge have no intention of allowing that to happen.

The General has already offered up his resignation, and he hasn't even made it to the White House yet. Personally, my opinion is that Obama needs to make a very public example of this man, reject his resignation, and fire him instead... on TV if possible. This isn't his first offense or the first time he's needed "talking to" by the Pres. The Pres. has been lenient and now it's time to publicly shit can this nut. Military members, and especially military leaders, do not get the right to talk shit about their superiors. It's in black & white writing. If he wants to express himself, he must exit the military to do so. While he is in, he is Government Property. And he knows it.

Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and give consideration to more than your next slice of pizza.

Is he the same guy that orchestrated the pat tillman cover up?

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 01:59 PM

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That's all we need to complete the transformation for you isn't it? A military General running the country. I'm leaning towards the possibility that the civilians in charge have no intention of allowing that to happen.

The General has already offered up his resignation, and he hasn't even made it to the White House yet. Personally, my opinion is that Obama needs to make a very public example of this man, reject his resignation, and fire him instead... on TV if possible. This isn't his first offense or the first time he's needed "talking to" by the Pres. The Pres. has been lenient and now it's time to publicly shit can this nut. Military members, and especially military leaders, do not get the right to talk shit about their superiors. It's in black & white writing. If he wants to express himself, he must exit the military to do so. While he is in, he is Government Property. And he knows it.

Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and give consideration to more than your next slice of pizza.

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 01:59 PM

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Is he the same guy that orchestrated the pat tillman cover up?

Yep.

8char

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 02:18 PM

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That's all we need to complete the transformation for you isn't it? A military General running the country. I'm leaning towards the possibility that the civilians in charge have no intention of allowing that to happen.

What the hell are you babbling about?

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The General has already offered up his resignation, and he hasn't even made it to the White House yet. Personally, my opinion is that Obama needs to make a very public example of this man, reject his resignation, and fire him instead... on TV if possible. This isn't his first offense or the first time he's needed "talking to" by the Pres. The Pres. has been lenient and now it's time to publicly shit can this nut. Military members, and especially military leaders, do not get the right to talk shit about their superiors. It's in black & white writing. If he wants to express himself, he must exit the military to do so. While he is in, he is Government Property. And he knows it.

Kinda hilarious, because if you replace "Obama" with "Bush", we would be getting a different opinion than you. Obama has very little respect from people that are not on his staff, him making an example of someone who accurately criticizes his shortcomings just makes him look dumb.

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Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and give consideration to more than your next slice of pizza.

It's amazing how easy it is to insult people with no rational capabilities

theking · 06-22-2010, 02:34 PM

It is a shame that a Commander in Chief and his administration...that for the most part have never spent a single day in the military...are allowed to micro manage military operations...but this General and his staff need to be fired...if for no other reason then their own stupidity.

I always detested the fact that clueless civilians are allowed to micro manage military operations...but that is our system since the beginning.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 02:39 PM

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It is a shame that a Commander in Chief and his administration...that for the most part have never spent a single day in the military...are allowed to micro manage military operations...but this General and his staff need to be fired...if for no other reason then their own stupidity.

Well, that was the General's problem as well, it's just something beyond Amputate's understanding. However, it's not a good move politically, especially if the Afghani president is endorsing the General.

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I always detested the fact that clueless civilians are allowed to micro manage military operations...but that is our system since the beginning.

If Bush pulled that shit I would have told him to STFU as well. It's definitely sad that someone with no knowledge or experience is allowed to pull strings half a world away.

GrouchyAdmin · 06-22-2010, 03:09 PM

if there's one thing that rising dictators are known for, it's tolerating harsh criticism from their opponents.

Brujah · 06-22-2010, 03:33 PM

Summary of the RS article: A lot of people to blame for this crime. BP for committing it. MMS and Salazar for letting them do it. Obama for not forcing Salazar to clean up MMS faster. Bush for giving MMS (and Big Oil) 8 years of corruption with a free pass.

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The tale of the Deepwater Horizon disaster is, at its core, the tale of two blowout preventers: one mechanical, one regulatory. The regulatory blowout preventer failed long before BP ever started to drill – precisely because Salazar kept in place the crooked environmental guidelines the Bush administration implemented to favor the oil industry.

Salazar needs fired. BP needs to pay up in blood.

I don't know whether Obama was smart enough to know better and didn't care, or whether he's too dumb and believed whatever Salazar told him.

And now we know MMS stole a poor webmaster's 2 dogs, and ran off with KryztalRed!!!

DudeRick · 06-22-2010, 04:24 PM

I hope McCrystal tells Obama that he is a sniveling little pussy and to shove Afghanistan up his incompetent socialist ass!

cykoe6 · 06-22-2010, 04:29 PM

McCrystal was speaking the truth about the incompetence of the Obama administration but he obviously chose the wrong forum to do it. I think Obama could help himself and the war effort here by putting the good of the country over politics and refusing McCrystal's resignation.

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 04:36 PM

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What the hell are you babbling about?

Kinda hilarious, because if you replace "Obama" with "Bush", we would be getting a different opinion than you. Obama has very little respect from people that are not on his staff, him making an example of someone who accurately criticizes his shortcomings just makes him look dumb.

No you wouldn't and no it doesn't. A General cannot disrespect the leadership in Washington. It's really quite simple. It doesn't matter who holds those positions. You're too blinded by hate and ignorance to grasp that though. And I knew that going into this, but was willing to hold your hand through it.

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It's amazing how easy it is to insult people with no rational capabilities

I know, it was incredibly easy to insult you. Too easy in fact.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:37 PM

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No you wouldn't and no it doesn't. A General cannot disrespect the leadership in Washington. It's really quite simple. It doesn't matter who holds those positions. You're too blinded by hate and ignorance to grasp that though. And I knew that going into this, but was willing to hold your hand through it.

I know, it was incredibly easy to insult you. Too easy in fact.

I would call you stupid but that would be redundant, after reading your posts. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:38 PM

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McCrystal was speaking the truth about the incompetence of the Obama administration but he obviously chose the wrong forum to do it. I think Obama could help himself and the war effort here by putting the good of the country over politics and refusing McCrystal's resignation.

Good luck at that happening.

directfiesta · 06-22-2010, 04:39 PM

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If Bush pulled that shit I would have told him to STFU as well. It's definitely sad that someone with no knowledge or experience is allowed to pull strings half a world away.

IF ????? ..... like BUSH did not do it on both wars ...

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:46 PM

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IF ????? ..... like BUSH did not do it on both wars ...

Of course you have the evidence for this, right? Oh that's right, you're not known here for providing evidence, or anything intellectual. Carry on clown, make us laugh

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 04:47 PM

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Of course you have the evidence for this, right? Oh that's right, you're not known here for providing evidence, or anything intellectual. Carry on clown, make us laugh

You're not known for having any intelligence, but we still talk to you.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:49 PM

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You're not known for having any intelligence, but we still talk to you.

I could say the exact same thing about you and your posts, and it would be as true as the baseless assumptions you humor us with

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 04:49 PM

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You're not known for having any intelligence.

Amen to that!

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 04:50 PM

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I could say the exact same thing about you and your posts, and it would be as true as the baseless assumptions you humor us with

Baseless assumptions? Please, enlighten me.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:51 PM

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Baseless assumptions? Please, enlighten me.

::::facepalm:::: Most of your posts are baseless assumptions, which is why you get ridiculed the way that you do. You're in the same boat as BFT3K and DirectFiesta, who are usually the laughing stock of these debates. Please start providing actual facts, it would keep your self ownage to a minimum.

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 04:53 PM

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Baseless assumptions? Please, enlighten me.

Are you seriously asking the dumbest person on this board to enlighten you?

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:54 PM

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Are you seriously asking the dumbest person on this board to enlighten you?

Is the dumbest person on this board and the subject of ridicule on most occasions calling someone else the dumbest person on this board? Pot. Kettle. Black

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 04:55 PM

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::::facepalm:::: Most of your posts are baseless assumptions, which is why you get ridiculed the way that you do. You're in the same boat as BFT3K and DirectFiesta, who are usually the laughing stock of these debates. Please start providing actual facts, it would keep your self ownage to a minimum.

C'mon Mr. Fact Demander... list up some of my baseless assumptions that are bothering you so much. Let's get to the root of your hatred and anger.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 04:57 PM

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C'mon Mr. Fact Demander... list up some of my baseless assumptions that are bothering you so much. Let's get to the root of your hatred and anger.

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You're not known for having any intelligence, but we still talk to you.

The most recent one

Since it's so easy to humiliate you, I'll try and be nicer about it and go down a notch to your intelligence. Better yet, perhaps you can provide me posts that involve actual facts. Too easy

GrouchyAdmin · 06-22-2010, 04:59 PM

I was going to ask why TheDemon was talking to himself, then I remembered I got bored and blocked half the board when I got tired of reading them.

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 04:59 PM

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Is the dumbest person on this board and the subject of ridicule on most occasions calling someone else the dumbest person on this board? Pot. Kettle. Black

The problem with the gene pool is that there's no lifeguard.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 05:00 PM

Btw Amputate, since you don't seem the least bit educated, I'll help you out.

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That's all we need to complete the transformation for you isn't it? A military General running the country. I'm leaning towards the possibility that the civilians in charge have no intention of allowing that to happen.

This is either a baseless assertion, or more closely, it's a strawman. You're intentionally(or unintentionally since you can't read) misinterpreting my position, and then arguing against it.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 05:01 PM

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I was going to ask why TheDemon was talking to himself, then I remembered I got bored and blocked half the board when I got tired of reading them.

Because it's enjoyable to humiliate incompetent, grown men.

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 05:04 PM

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Because it's enjoyable to humiliate incompetent, grown men.

That's what I told your boyfriend the other night, right before he tried to hit me with your purse!

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 05:26 PM

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Btw Amputate, since you don't seem the least bit educated, I'll help you out.

This is either a baseless assertion, or more closely, it's a strawman. You're intentionally(or unintentionally since you can't read) misinterpreting my position, and then arguing against it.

Why is it a baseless assertion? Your record here speaks clearly enough. You attack the current administration every chance you get. You attack those with opposing views. And now you're suggesting that it's okay for a military General to publicly go against the policies of the Commander In Chief by laying down comments like, because Obama got "butthurt". How exactly am I misinterpreting your position? Your position is very clear. I hardly think that's baseless. In fact, it's got quite a stable base.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 05:30 PM

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Why is it a baseless assertion? Your record here speaks clearly enough. You attack the current administration every chance you get. You attack those with opposing views. And now you're suggesting that it's okay for a military General to publicly go against the policies of the Commander In Chief by laying down comments like, because Obama got "butthurt". How exactly am I misinterpreting your position? Your position is very clear. I hardly think that's baseless. In fact, it's got quite a stable base.

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Why is it a baseless assertion? Your record here speaks clearly enough.

This is yet again, a baseless assertion. Try not being like a little child and repeating something so many times, where you believe it to be true.

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You attack the current administration every chance you get. You attack those with opposing views.

This isn't baseless, it's just untrue. I'm on this forum maybe 1-2 days a week tops, so that assertion would be retarded. I attack those with opposing views who are stupid and provide no argument, other than attacking the other person.. You pretty much do the exact same thing which makes you a hypocrite who uses double standards.

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And now you're suggesting that it's okay for a military General to publicly go against the policies of the Commander In Chief by laying down comments like, because Obama got "butthurt".

Tell me, what policies is the General going against? Because as I recall, I never listed any, nor congratulated him for going against Obama's policies. So there we have a strawman and you once again prove your inability to read. Simple enough, class dismissed

Amputate Your Head · 06-22-2010, 05:31 PM

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This is yet again, a baseless assertion. Try not being like a little child and repeating something so many times, where you believe it to be true.

This isn't baseless, it's just untrue. I'm on this forum maybe 1-2 days a week tops, so that assertion would be retarded. I attack those with opposing views who are stupid and provide no argument, other than attacking the other person.. You pretty much do the exact same thing which makes you a hypocrite who uses double standards.

Tell me, what policies is the General going against? Because as I recall, I never listed any, nor congratulated him for going against Obama's policies. So there we have a strawman and you once again prove your inability to read. Simple enough, class dismissed

Okay Demon. You're right. You win. Good luck.

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 05:33 PM

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I hope McCrystal tells Obama that he is a sniveling little pussy and to shove Afghanistan up his incompetent socialist ass!

Oh RudeDick, you know that kind of thing only happens in your demented little wish dreams.

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 05:37 PM

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Okay Demon. You're right. You win. Good luck.

Aww what's the matter, you're not going to fight me on your obvious stupidity? Shucks, I was looking for a challenge. Guess I'll have to find it elsewhere.

BFT3K · 06-22-2010, 05:38 PM

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Why is it a baseless assertion? Your record here speaks clearly enough. You attack the current administration every chance you get. You attack those with opposing views. And now you're suggesting that it's okay for a military General to publicly go against the policies of the Commander In Chief by laying down comments like, because Obama got "butthurt". How exactly am I misinterpreting your position? Your position is very clear. I hardly think that's baseless. In fact, it's got quite a stable base.

Why would you bother debating an ignorant troll?

He is just here so you can hurl insults at someone, without fear of repercussions.

pocketkangaroo · 06-22-2010, 05:39 PM

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I always detested the fact that clueless civilians are allowed to micro manage military operations...but that is our system since the beginning.

So you detest the Constitution?

What is your solution to this? Only allow people who have been in the military to be President?

The Demon · 06-22-2010, 05:40 PM

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Why would you bother debating an ignorant troll?

He is just here so you can hurl insults at someone, without fear of repercussions.

Same reason why people bother responding to you, other than to ridicule you.

06-22-2010, 08:05 AM	#1
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	Shades of President Truman's firing of General McArthur...General McCrystal ...may be fired by President Obama for insubordination. The General has been ordered home from Afghanistan for a face to face meeting with the President. All of this due to a Rolling Stone interview with the General and his staff. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	He should and will likely be fired. That level of insubordination cannot be tolerated. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Oh my yes, he's probably being prevented from seppuku as we speak. I saw on the news that it was all because of that icelandic volcano diverting flights. So the reporter was with them for a month, and they clearly let their guard down and let the shit fly. Idiots. He's brought dishonor to himself and his units and his country frankly. What a fuckup. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	What a waste. 4 Star General will be court martialed and dishonorably discharged because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. UCMJ is pretty clear on this. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	It is a shame that a Commander in Chief and his administration...that for the most part have never spent a single day in the military...are allowed to micro manage military operations...but this General and his staff need to be fired...if for no other reason then their own stupidity. I always detested the fact that clueless civilians are allowed to micro manage military operations...but that is our system since the beginning. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	if there's one thing that rising dictators are known for, it's tolerating harsh criticism from their opponents. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

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DudeRick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tobacco Road Posts: 1,568	I hope McCrystal tells Obama that he is a sniveling little pussy and to shove Afghanistan up his incompetent socialist ass!

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cykoe6 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,499	McCrystal was speaking the truth about the incompetence of the Obama administration but he obviously chose the wrong forum to do it. I think Obama could help himself and the war effort here by putting the good of the country over politics and refusing McCrystal's resignation. __________________ бабки, шлюхи, сила

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GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	I was going to ask why TheDemon was talking to himself, then I remembered I got bored and blocked half the board when I got tired of reading them. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy