This Section Should Be Locked Up Right Now EXCEPT...

[Robbie]

For vetted industry people.

Eric, the general public has no business in this forum and shouldn't be allowed in here.

After reading surfer forums full of surfers LAUGHING at the webmasters on GFY and our posts about piracy killing sales...We need a place to discuss strategy and ideas without giving it away like we have every other detail of our business on GFY over the last few years (much to the detriment of this business)

This should be at least the ONE section that requires that YOU know who is allowed to read it and that you personally know that they have vested interest in it.

Just saying. I've been begging for a "real" section for people in this business only for a while. This could be that section.

If you don't do something along those lines, I fear it will either be dead as hell on this section...OR it will be closeley monitored by pirates.

[Roald]

damn, I agree

[SiMpLe]

^^ agreed ^^

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Roald

damn, I agree

It's about damn time!

[Iron Fist]

I agree as well...

[SeizeTheDomain]

I second that!

[Barefootsies]

Agreed.

And who is gonna decide who the vets are and who aren't? So deny access to newbies who don't know much and they will think it's aright to go out and get full length videos, so instead of educating them, you're pushing them away, and creating another person that could become another big pirate site...

[stever]

props
power to what robbie says

i agree

[Si]

Perhaps not the general discussion,

But a sub-forum of "ideas and soloutions" should be locked down to the people who will be working with/using the ideas and/or soloutions to start fighting back against this problem.

Not sure it could work but if someone has an idea / product / service that works, we wouldn't want that to be put out there for all eyes to see.

[digitaldivas]

I agree, thanks Robbie for bringing this to light!

[Nicky]

I agree with Robbie here.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

And who is gonna decide who the vets are and who aren't? So deny access to newbies who don't know much and they will think it's aright to go out and get full length videos, so instead of educating them, you're pushing them away, and creating another person that could become another big pirate site...

Nobody said anything about "Vets" I said "Vette" as in "Confirm that they are legitimately in this business"

I agree that new folks should not be excluded.

[TheHatchet]

Even if fellow industry people could make others "Industry Certified" that'd be sweet... im certain there is a vbulletin plugin for this

[Jim_Gunn]

Good idea, Robbie.

[Dirty Dane]

I agree. At least for registered members only.

[JayAllan]

I agree with Robbie!

[Horny Alf]

Great Idea, id love to see this as well!

[Fat Panda]

i agree def members only section

[idiftl]

Originally Posted by Robbie

For vetted industry people.

Eric, the general public has no business in this forum and shouldn't be allowed in here.

After reading surfer forums full of surfers LAUGHING at the webmasters on GFY and our posts about piracy killing sales...We need a place to discuss strategy and ideas without giving it away like we have every other detail of our business on GFY over the last few years (much to the detriment of this business)

This should be at least the ONE section that requires that YOU know who is allowed to read it and that you personally know that they have vested interest in it.

Just saying. I've been begging for a "real" section for people in this business only for a while. This could be that section.

If you don't do something along those lines, I fear it will either be dead as hell on this section...OR it will be closeley monitored by pirates.

im in here and im laughing at your futile efforts to combat sharing of free streaming porn.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by idiftl

im in here and im laughing at your futile efforts to combat sharing of free streaming porn.

Bingo!

This is what I'm talking about Eric. Do we really need fake nicks and trolling and all the "wit" in this one section?

As soon as gideongallery jumps in here with his bullshit..I'm gone.

[idiftl]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Bingo!

This is what I'm talking about Eric. Do we really need fake nicks and trolling and all the "wit" in this one section?

As soon as gideongallery jumps in here with his bullshit..I'm gone.

cry to your daddy you faggot

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by idiftl

cry to your daddy you faggot

Crying now. And I guess you're a homophobe as well? I like gay people.

If I didn't know for a fact that you're only here with your fake nick because you're pissed at GFY over the tube skin and want to drive everyone away...I'd think you have serious issues. But I know what you're doing so I also know you have no serious issues. Just a beef with GFY. Carry on with your crusade.

In the meantime I'd still like to know, if and when Eric finally gets done drinking at Oktoberfest if he could please take your ass out of this section along with any other fake nicks and/or surfers and anybody who can't prove that they are in this business.

[NBO]

I agree with you Robbie, as long as newbies like myself will be able to take a part of the discussions. I might not have much to show for but I am def. working on it and as time passes by I am learning more and more. Don't mistake me for some hack that don't care, have a fake nick or a regular surfer (my nick is my company if you were wondering). I am 100% dedicated and I'm just looking for the perfect wave.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by NBO

I agree with you Robbie, as long as newbies like myself will be able to take a part of the discussions. I might not have much to show for but I am def. working on it and as time passes by I am learning more and more. Don't mistake me for some hack that don't care, have a fake nick or a regular surfer (my nick is my company if you were wondering). I am 100% dedicated and I'm just looking for the perfect wave.

That's the kind of people who should be in this section.

[idiftl]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Crying now. And I guess you're a homophobe as well? I like gay people.

If I didn't know for a fact that you're only here with your fake nick because you're pissed at GFY over the tube skin and want to drive everyone away...I'd think you have serious issues. But I know what you're doing so I also know you have no serious issues. Just a beef with GFY. Carry on with your crusade.

In the meantime I'd still like to know, if and when Eric finally gets done drinking at Oktoberfest if he could please take your ass out of this section along with any other fake nicks and/or surfers and anybody who can't prove that they are in this business.

you better have proof OR ban hammer.

[Dennis69]

This is a good idea but it needs to be done right... and Robbie is hitting the nail right on the head

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by idiftl

you better have proof OR ban hammer.

[Robbie]

Let's check your recent posts idiftl and see all the valuable wisdom you bring to this community:

Originally Posted by idiftl

lol this is hilarious.
god you are such a failure

Originally Posted by idiftl

no one asked for your fucking life story you failing fuck.

Originally Posted by idiftl

yeah you are a fucking failure and you know it deep inside. you dont deserve anything in life, because your too stupid, while all your friends and others around you have moved on to bigger things in life, now you are old, here you are late at night sitting behind your keyboard posting on an internet board with no one to talk to.
yup that sounds like a failure.

Originally Posted by idiftl

lololol!
the retard speaks again. are you just trying to be funny or are you just this retarded and fail ?
you keep failing no matter how hard you try.
idiot.

Originally Posted by idiftl

didn't i tell you to go back to sucking dick ryan?

Originally Posted by idiftl

yeah you know yourself the best huh. you stupid old hag piece of shit. you are sooooooooo retarded and you know it deep inside

Originally Posted by idiftl

not only is smokeythebear a failure, but he also has no game and is an ignorant loser.

Starting to see a pattern there?

What a joke to even have this kind of nonsense here.

[Fukcdoll]

So how would you determen someone who is able to view and participate on this kind of board?
Obviously 'ass holes' need kept in their place- but what about the true new folks in the community?

Being new myself- I'm just curious as to how that process of elimination would occur?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Fukcdoll

So how would you determen someone who is able to view and participate on this kind of board?
Obviously 'ass holes' need kept in their place- but what about the true new folks in the community?

Being new myself- I'm just curious as to how that process of elimination would occur?

Simple. You write a mod. Introduce yourself, list what you do in this business and show a url proving you are at the very least a webmaster. Pretty simple.

There is another adult biz forum that REQUIRES every poster to post in an "introduce yourself" thread before they are allowed to post anywhere.

That stops all the bullshit and stupidity right there.

It may have been funny 8 years ago when the first guy got the cute idea to register a fake nick and use it to act stupid. But now it's so played out that it's just a waste of space.

Those need to be gone, at least in one damn section. And anybody that isn't actually in the business of producing, acting in, design, creating, or selling porn shouldn't be in here either.

If a person is in this business they should be able to easily say: "Hi, my REAL name is blah-blah My nick is blah-blah I own blah-blah and here is my website. I would like to be able to post in the PORN BUSINESS section"

That should be simple enough. Let people act like jackasses in the Fucking Around section. It's almost impossible to have any kind of business discussion over there.

And further I'd make it to where IF somebody decides to act uncivil in this section...they are BANNED from this section. Let them act like assholes in the rest of GFY.

Just one little section that isn't entertainment, but actual business that is unviewable by the general public would be very welcome.

[Fukcdoll]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Simple. You write a mod. Introduce yourself, list what you do in this business and show a url proving you are at the very least a webmaster. Pretty simple.

There is another adult biz forum that REQUIRES every poster to post in an "introduce yourself" thread before they are allowed to post anywhere.

That stops all the bullshit and stupidity right there.

It may have been funny 8 years ago when the first guy got the cute idea to register a fake nick and use it to act stupid. But now it's so played out that it's just a waste of space.

Those need to be gone, at least in one damn section. And anybody that isn't actually in the business of producing, acting in, design, creating, or selling porn shouldn't be in here either.

If a person is in this business they should be able to easily say: "Hi, my REAL name is blah-blah My nick is blah-blah I own blah-blah and here is my website. I would like to be able to post in the PORN BUSINESS section"

That should be simple enough. Let people act like jackasses in the Fucking Around section. It's almost impossible to have any kind of business discussion over there.

And further I'd make it to where IF somebody decides to act uncivil in this section...they are BANNED from this section. Let them act like assholes in the rest of GFY.

Just one little section that isn't entertainment, but actual business that is unviewable by the general public would be very welcome.

yeah I hear ya- that makes complete sense

[StinkyPink]

GFY is what GFY is... it always has been.
You don't like it, there are plenty of other forums that have what you are looking for.

I was an adult webmaster a long time ago. I lost all my sites when registerfly had their shit.

I moved to mainstream and started over. I still visited the adult boards to see what was happening, reading, and learning more and more. I had been bedriddin for awhile due to spinal injuries, took me out of work for over a year. All the while still reading boards, blogs and news feeds, soaking up the information.

Now that I am getting better I wanted to have my own tube site, a legal one. I wanted to come out of lurker mode, start building my network again, and make some contacts. I am a newbie, even though I have been around for several years. The online adult industry is nothing like it used to be, but GFY is still the same.

I do agree with you about making this section private, at least so guests can't view threads. I mean, GFY wanted proof for me to get activated. I sent emails with urls to admin. And here I am.

[Eric]

Got this locked down to Registered users only now. We will start there and get more strict if need be

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by Eric

Got this locked down to Registered users only now. We will start there and get more strict if need be

Good Deal!

[DWB]

Lock this area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by Eric

Got this locked down to Registered users only now. We will start there and get more strict if need be

[Zorgman]

I agree. known webmasters only. Need a private list of webmasters for this area.

[Major (Tom)]

Yea, should be program owners and affiliates too, and maybe even invite only.
gfy is 90% troll and tube owners now
Duke

[Fletch XXX]

what about the vetted industry people who run CELEB programs? ;)

LOL

"stealing content is BAD, but hey you got a celeb program buddy let me buy you a drink and send you some traffic" LOL

tongue in cheek

[bbobby86]

bee or not to bee...

[notime]

Originally Posted by Eric

Got this locked down to Registered users only now. We will start there and get more strict if need be

Remember what I said in Amsterdam around 5AM?
Still valid if you want. Drop me an email.

[CC]

Registered users is a good start. The next step (IMO) would be making it viewable to members with at least 100 (or 250 or whatever) posts.

Originally Posted by CC

Registered users is a good start. The next step (IMO) would be making it viewable to members with at least 100 (or 250 or whatever) posts.

Post count means nothing... Way to restrict true vets who don't spend their time on the boards posting, but lurking and posting when they see fit.

[CC]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Post count means nothing... Way to restrict true vets who don't spend their time on the boards posting, but lurking and posting when they see fit.

Post count doesn't mean much, sure. But most people who have been around for a while (I think I count as someone who's been around the adult net for eons but mostly lurks, which is who you are referring to) have made least 100 or so posts over the years. I didn't say 10,000 posts. It would eliminate more "bad" people than "good" people. Just look at the post counts in this thread.

[papagmp]

Lock it down to those that actually own copy-right material and those that are actively involved in the protection of it. If an applicant can't prove he/she/it own anything that is at risk - or provides a service to protect such content, let them sit outside till they can.

These are a few of the obvious candidates:
1: program owners
2: producers
3: talent
4: editors
5: people actively involved or that own services that protect content


To be honest - just being an affiliate, imo, is not in itself enough to qualify someone for this discussion - any more than just being a board member. After all, we all know how hard it is to sign up for the average program.

Originally Posted by CC

Post count doesn't mean much, sure. But most people who have been around for a while (I think I count as someone who's been around the adult net for eons but mostly lurks, which is who you are referring to) have made least 100 or so posts over the years. I didn't say 10,000 posts. It would eliminate more "bad" people than "good" people. Just look at the post counts in this thread.

I've seen many people with reg dates of 2001 and are very big time in the industry with less then 50 posts...

Originally Posted by papagmp

Lock it down to those that actually own copy-right material and those that are actively involved in the protection of it. If an applicant can't prove he/she/it own anything that is at risk - or provides a service to protect such content, let them sit outside till they can.

These are a few of the obvious candidates:
1: program owners
2: producers
3: talent
4: editors
5: people actively involved or that own services that protect content


To be honest - just being an affiliate, imo, is not in itself enough to qualify someone for this discussion - any more than just being a board member. After all, we all know how hard it is to sign up for the average program.

And it's the affiliates who will build more tubes because they are being pushed out because you think their opinion doesn't matter. Way to make more problems!

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by papagmp

Lock it down to those that actually own copy-right material and those that are actively involved in the protection of it.

To be honest - just being an affiliate, imo, is not in itself enough to qualify someone for this discussion - any more than just being a board member. After all, we all know how hard it is to sign up for the average program.

Agreed.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

I've seen many people with reg dates of 2001 and are very big time in the industry with less then 50 posts...

And it's the affiliates who will build more tubes because they are being pushed out because you think their opinion doesn't matter. Way to make more problems!

This is why I originally said that anybody who wanted entrance to this section should have to go to Eric or Ice. Provide them your real name and what you do in this business and your history. That would eliminate trolls, fake drama nics, etc. And it wouldn't keep out real affiliates who do business. But the point is moot obviously. I guess this is just another section for getting post views and trying to drive traffic for advertising purposes. Which in and of itself is just fine...but as I said earlier...couldn't we have just ONE serious section where business can be conducted without non-industry people being privy to it? The answer is apparently "no".

[Va2k]

I agree, He did lock it down so it's a start!