Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers - Page 7 - GoFuckYourself.com

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-17-2010, 11:51 PM

300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...

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Originally Posted by Nathan

ADG.. you are quite entertaining

And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I just went to xtube.com, within 1 click I found several scenes of mine that are there illegally. Nothing shocking as I'm always sending DMCAs to your tubes.

Here is the problem Nathan, you know people are uploading 100% illegal content. Maybe your staff does it, maybe they don't, that is not for me to decide. The only thing that matters to me is, you allow it knowing they do not own the copyright to such content. This is what puts you (and the others) into dirt bag / scum / thief / not to be trusted category. This is why you are meeting resistance.

By allowing uploads of full scenes from anyone, you know from balls to bones you are violating copyright law and profiting from stolen content.

Then you come in here and wiggle your way around tough questions and act as if everything has changed, when in fact, I'm still looking at multiple scenes of mine on your site, uploaded by someone who should have never been allowed to upload content there in the first place. Nothing has changed. I'll send a DMCA and the scenes will go away for a week, maybe even two, and then like magic they will reappear.

You want to make changes and work with everyone, limit the video length to just a few minutes. Any video attempted to be uploaded longer than that is truncated. Make a variational process for site owners who wish to load samples videos to your tubes. A real domain email would be a good start instead of a free one. Create valid accounts instead of bullshit ones.

Instead, you allow full length videos to be uploaded by strangers. Not only are you NOT 2257 complaint and may house child porn in this manner, but for 100% sure you are allowing stolen content to be loaded as well.

You talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I can only assume you will be met with mostly resistance from everyone other than bro blowers and other dirt bags.

ADG

BJ · 07-17-2010, 11:57 PM

interesting....

Nathan · 07-17-2010, 11:59 PM

ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management. You just chose to not believe me.

Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257. But, regardless of that fact, I actually thought similarly about some of these aspects before I acquired the assets in question, but I also talked to prominent law firms to explain DMCA to me and I have now fully understood it. Some of you might want to do the same, since you clearly do not. That said, I have also said time and time again that we are changing certain things of how the tubes operate. I can repeat myself 500 times though if you plan to post some baseless accusation over and over again too... I have no problem with that.

ADG, you are not hurting me one bit by re-posting this stuff, I could not care less what you think. I enjoy certain types of discussions on the weekends because it relaxes me between working days while I watch TV for example... you are just entertaining me. Of course, you can go on if you want to as I said, I will just come back and reply with the same facts every time...

JFK · 07-18-2010, 12:00 AM

I'll park here for now

ProG · 07-18-2010, 12:01 AM

This is just unreal to watch this industry kill itself. Fabian you have come a long way from being John's bitch. Congrats.

Far-L · 07-18-2010, 12:07 AM

I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.

theking · 07-18-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...

And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:

ADG

Unless I have overlooked it...I do not see a single question in DirtyWhiteBoy's post for him to respond to. Am I wrong?

Loch · 07-18-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.

You guys are based in seattle?
Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management.

What you have not answered (and what my question was, which you still did not answer) is who the other partners/associates/principals/officers/co-conspirators are within Manwin. Are there people leftover from Mansef or Virage still involved with Manwin?

1% to 2% stakeholders represent people with a 1.4 to 2.8 million dollar stake in Manwin.

From your statements, I guess you consider these people pretty much worthless peons, but others of us would like to know whom besides yourself (the self-proclaimed Managing Partner of a non-partnership) is a part of the Manwin management team.

From what you have indicated so far, your business appears to have the same stench and shadiness (or more) as iBill/Penthouse/AFF (at least we know who the principal scoundrels were/are in those companies).

Honestly, you come across more as a bootlicking shill than a Managing Partner:

ADG

Loch · 07-18-2010, 12:39 AM

ADG do me a favor and shoot me an icq or email please.
I for some reason cant find your email and need to get you a few things from the past...

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 12:55 AM

ADG,

the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok.

As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though.

ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right?

Far-L · 07-18-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loch

You guys are based in seattle?
Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew

Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

Where are you?

Loch · 07-18-2010, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

Where are you?

Vancouver - BC, but heading to Seattle soon for a few mainstream social media meetings.
I wouldent mind having a cup of coffe if you are free on the dates im there which is still to be determined.

I believe you and my partner Cecil did some business back in the day, years ago though.

DWB · 07-18-2010, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257.

Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did.

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did.

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come.

DWB, you clearly do not know me, you clearly do not know what I have done in this industry in the past and you clearly do not read what I write.

I have also not really sidestepped QUESTIONS, you have just not really asked any... Replying that its non of anyones business or that its confidential information is not sidestepping questions, its simply not being allowed to answer...

Either way, if you think I am a thief, so be it, I do not think I am. Neither do I think Google are thieves. Also, I have not owned these tubes for more than a few months, I am not going to launch some clock-and-dagger operation of changing their form of legal operation overnight.

The reason I have said you clearly do not fully understand 2257 is because you mentioned we can in no way comply to it... that simply is not true, re-read 2257 if you do not believe me.

BigDeanEvans · 07-18-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did.

Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come.

I'm like you; I never stole a dime from anyone, never stole content, never banged any credit cards ( although i looked over my sales over the last decade i did $33 million total and that was without any trials, full $30 memberships, so i can imagine how much i could have made) but i sleep well at night. Trust me, these guys pulling this shady shit will end up dead, broke or in the federal pen...I've seen it many times.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

ADG,

the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok.

As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though.

ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right?

Ignoring your TMM red-herring (which I never said peep about), I assume you meant that you took over the Mansef Management team.

Since you apparently didn't understand, or were merely obfuscating again about it, I wasn't inquiring so much about former Mansef employees like Brazil and Tank, but instead about Mansef management personnel, such as Stephane Manos, or O-u-i-s--s-a-m Youseff (it displays as hahahahahahaha if you type his first name in without hyphens - I wonder what that's about?).

You know, Man+Sef, the principals of Mansef - I'm sure you have heard of them, even if you claim to know nothing about Sam Jain, aka Jain Shaileshkumar, and Daniel, aka Bjorn Daniel Sundi).

And how about Matt Keez (aka Matthew Keezer of Keez Movies), and the well-known others behind some of the Mansef related content piracy? Are they still associated with Manwin (people such as Salam Said)?

I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?

What about Stephane Manos or OUISAMM Youseff? Do they have any current role in Manwin?

You claim to not be a "partnership" even though you call yourself the "Managing Partner", and you stated that you are not a CEO of a corporation. So just what kind of legal entity (if any) is Manwin?

Are you willing to go on the public record stating that you have had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain (aka Jain Shaileshkumar) or Daniel (aka Bjorn Daniel Sundin)?

ADG

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Trust me, these guys pulling this shady shit will end up dead, broke or in the federal pen...I've seen it many times.

Pink Visuals sues Brazzers for $6.75 Million

NEW YORK ? Pink Visual?s holding company has filed suit against the owners of Brazzers, alleging that four company-owned tube sites poached content from 45 copyrighted movies and have streamed them ?tens of millions of times.?

The websites at issue in Pink Visual?s $6.75 million complaint include KeezMovies.com, PornHub.com, Extremetube.com and Tube8.com, all owned by Canadian companies Mansef Inc. and Interhub, whose officers operate both companies.

Pink Visual?s complaint alleges that the defendants are not only aware of infringing content being uploaded to their sites, but that they ?actively engage in, promote and induce this infringement.?

?Bachelor? Star Sues TMZ, Brazzers, JuggCash.com, Mansef Tube Sites

LOS ANGELES ? Rozlyn Papa, the reality TV star who recently appeared on ?The Bachelor,? says she wasn?t included as cast in Lexington Steele?s ?Pole Position: Lex POV.?

On Wednesday, Papa filed suit at Los Angeles Superior Court over allegations that a number of companies falsely advertised that she was the lead actress in ?Pole Position: Lex POV.?

Brazzers Parent Company Fighting $6.4 Million Forfeiture Suit

ATLANTA ? The parent company of Brazzers has filed a motion to dismiss the forfeiture of $6.4 million the U.S. government is seeking after authorities traced numerous transactions involving the Canadian adult company and third-party credit card processors, including those in Israel.

Federal authorities say in the complaint that Premium Services for three months last year received $9.4 million in wire transfers from various sources and that much of the funds originated overseas in countries considered by law enforcement to be at high risk for money-laundering activity, such as Israel.

After being fired by Brazzers, producer Bobby Manila charged Brazzers with a lawsuit for fraud and violating the terms of contract. The lawsuit was eventually settled out of court.

Stand up people at this company. Not counting on the slight of hands traction to bring new changes. This is asset protection, nothing more.

Brujah · 07-18-2010, 03:31 AM

Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

seeandsee · 07-18-2010, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

i once found xxxxxx number string going into hahahaha

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Ignoring your TMM red-herring (which I never said peep about), I assume you meant that you took over the Mansef Management team.

Since you apparently didn't understand, or were merely obfuscating again about it, I wasn't inquiring so much about former Mansef employees like Brazil and Tank, but instead about Mansef management personnel, such as Stephane Manos, or O-u-i-s--s-a-m Youseff (it displays as hahahahahahaha if you type his first name in without hyphens - I wonder what that's about?).

You know, Man+Sef, the principals of Mansef - I'm sure you have heard of them, even if you claim to know nothing about Sam Jain, aka Jain Shaileshkumar, and Daniel, aka Bjorn Daniel Sundi).

And how about Matt Keez (aka Matthew Keezer of Keez Movies), and the well-known others behind some of the Mansef related content piracy? Are they still associated with Manwin (people such as Salam Said)?

Thank you for finally actually asking clearly what you want to know, although I have even clearly enough answered that multiple times already... Names on here are sometimes banned words since people prefer not to have their real names published... Maybe thats why?

What I have said before, I was rather clear, maybe you did not understand it.. So here again for you to hopefully even understand: None of the names you mentioned above are involved in Manwin whatsoever. None of the previous owners of the assets are involved in Manwin, considering that I bought the assets from them I thought that would be obvious. My bad.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?

Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say. That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course. Currently, they do not though.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

What about Stephane Manos or OUISAMM Youseff? Do they have any current role in Manwin?

No they do not.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

You claim to not be a "partnership" even though you call yourself the "Managing Partner", and you stated that you are not a CEO of a corporation. So just what kind of legal entity (if any) is Manwin?

Listen, I told you before, the term is a translation from German. I do not need to explain our corporate structure to you, its again none of your business. If you are so interested, dig a little deeper and find out for yourself. Parts of it are public record.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Are you willing to go on the public record stating that you have had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain (aka Jain Shaileshkumar) or Daniel (aka Bjorn Daniel Sundin)?

ADG

I had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain, whoever that is. I heard the name in this thread the first time in my life when the LikeMyBalls weirdo postet the wiki link.

Daniel, I have had dealings with 10 years ago. As did more or less I would say 80% of this industry's oldtimers. Daniel was the first person, together with a lovely guy called Preston Garrison (some of the veterans might know him too) who ever ripped me off, sadly he was not the last. The prick still owes me something like 70000 USD from ad income and who knows how much from selling stuff we did together in the past to Flying Crocodile without giving me my cut... Back then, HUGE lesson learned... If you happen to know where he is, do let me know, I'ld love to pay him a visit... I hear he has bigger problems now though...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 05:00 AM

G'night Nathan/Fabian/Bootlicker...

You've made quite a name for yourself here on GFY for basically saying nothing while incessantly flapping your dick suckers for your real bosses - but what else is supposed to be expected from a bootlicking lackey Managing Pretender Partner like yourself?!?

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Thank you for finally actually asking clearly what you want to know, although I have even clearly enough answered that multiple times already... Names on here are sometimes banned words since people prefer not to have their real names published... Maybe thats why?

What I have said before, I was rather clear, maybe you did not understand it.. So here again for you to hopefully even understand: None of the names you mentioned above are involved in Manwin whatsoever. None of the previous owners of the assets are involved in Manwin, considering that I bought the assets from them I thought that would be obvious. My bad.

Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say. That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course. Currently, they do not though.

No they do not.

Listen, I told you before, the term is a translation from German. I do not need to explain our corporate structure to you, its again none of your business. If you are so interested, dig a little deeper and find out for yourself. Parts of it are public record.

I had no dealings whatsoever with Sam Jain, whoever that is. I heard the name in this thread the first time in my life when the LikeMyBalls weirdo postet the wiki link.

Daniel, I have had dealings with 10 years ago. As did more or less I would say 80% of this industry's oldtimers. Daniel was the first person, together with a lovely guy called Preston Garrison (some of the veterans might know him too) who ever ripped me off, sadly he was not the last. The prick still owes me something like 70000 USD from ad income and who knows how much from selling stuff we did together in the past to Flying Crocodile without giving me my cut... Back then, HUGE lesson learned... If you happen to know where he is, do let me know, I'ld love to pay him a visit... I hear he has bigger problems now though...

So, once again (since you can't seem to comprehend a simple question), who are your other partners/corporate board members/associates/co-conspirators?

Or are you really just a boot licking lackey, that refuses to answer rather simple questions, in order to appease/not anger your real boss(es)?

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Any background on why GFY admins had some of the names added to the GFY filters, so they result in 'hahahahaha' now? That's a new one?

I'm sure hahahahahaha cried to GFY about people talking about him because he was such a crook.

Surprised Playboy bowed down to Brazzers like that.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 05:46 AM

Right now everyone should sign up (no ref code) to promote Pink Visual / Top Bucks.

TopBucks.com

They are suing these scum bags, support them!

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:00 AM

ADG,

Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh? I can repeat this over and over again for you, since you are obviously not a very intelligent person

There are no other notable shareholders. The only other shareholders have minority stakes as part of incentive programs. Who those shareholders are is not my place to tell, if they want you to know they can come here and tell you themselves.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

I'm sure hahahahahaha cried to GFY about people talking about him because he was such a crook.

Surprised Playboy bowed down to Brazzers like that.

Brazzers is a GFY advertiser. Don't you know how the Bro Club works?!?

Wait until AFF/Penthouse gets ahold of Playboy...if they can.

Maybe o-u-i-s-s-a-m y-o-u-s-s-e-f, (without dashes) aka hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha shows up on terrorist lists, money launderer lists, or etc, which is why his name shows up as hahahahaha on GFY...

I don't know, but OUISAAM YOUSEFF kinda sounds like a person with something to hide...

ADG

pradaboy · 07-18-2010, 06:10 AM

Damn why is it always Indians that are such scammers (talking about that Jain dude)?

Anyway, Nathan... if you really do own a 100+ million company right now, why the fuck are you spending hours on GFY answering questions from people you don't even know and have no business with? Come on man, go do something useful.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh?

I'm sure many people are jealous. Who wouldn't want 100 million dollars to have at their disposal?

The real question is: Why would a man buy any organization that was involved in illegal activity and brought up on charges for illegal activity, if that man himself was not a criminal?

I could buy poppy fields in the golden triangle and sell heroin, making millions, but I wouldn't.
I could slang dope on the corner, but I wouldn't.
I could sell CP, but I wouldn't.
My business would never revolve around any illegal activity.

But you, you bought it knowing it was operating illegally. What does that say about you as both a person and a businessman?

Serious question.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:17 AM

Prada,

I am sitting outside, drinking coffee and Ice cream with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy if someone has posted some more funky bullshit and if so, I post...

I love the Internet, that it is possible to comment this way.. I also love discussions... So I just post in my spare time...

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

Anyway, Nathan... if you really do own a 100+ million company right now, why the fuck are you spending hours on GFY answering questions from people you don't even know and have no business with? Come on man, go do something useful.

If I had that kind of money or just spent that much on an investment, I would not be dicking off here with ADG. (No offense to ADG)

This is what makes me feel he is just a frontman. A Bob Rice or a Scott Johnston, if you will.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

I'm sure many people are jealous. Who wouldn't want 100 million dollars to have at their disposal?

The real question is: Why would a man buy any organization that was involved in illegal activity and brought up on charges for illegal activity, if that man himself was not a criminal?

I could buy poppy fields in the golden triangle and sell heroin, making millions, but I wouldn't.
I could slang dope on the corner, but I wouldn't.
I could sell CP, but I wouldn't.
My business would never revolve around any illegal activity.

But you, you bought it knowing it was operating illegally. What does that say about you as both a person and a businessman?

Serious question.

I hate to destroy your dreamworld... But nothing was operated illegally. Just because someone is sued, does not mean they are doing illegal stuff...

Let's wait until the lawsuits in question are over and then we can talk again...

Either way. None of them have to do with Manwin, and we are not breaking any laws either.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I am sitting outside with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy

When I'm with my parents, my wife an my kids, I'm always checking GFY too.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

If I had that kind of money or just spent that much on an investment, I would not be dicking off here with ADG. (No offense to ADG)

This is what makes me feel he is just a frontman. A Bob Rice or a Scott Johnston, if you will.

I have worked hard to get where I am today, and I am proud of it. That is why I post replies here.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I hate to destroy your dreamworld... But nothing was operated illegally.

You're right, the US Government just has a nasty habit of freezing $6.4 million dollars of do-gooders and those operating legally. Probably just a big misunderstanding.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I have worked hard to get where I am today, and I am proud of it. That is why I post replies here.

In all honesty, if you really are THE MAN at Brazzers now, you should be proud for being able to afford such a large company. I'll give you that. That has taken an unbelievable amount of hard work I'm sure. It's the company's history and actions that unfortunately bring dirt and hate to your plate.

Get off GFY and go be with your family.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

You're right, the US Government just has a nasty habit of freezing $6.4 million dollars of do-gooders and those operating legally. Probably just a big misunderstanding.

Actually you would be surprised what the us government does... But let's just wait what comes out of that suit... I am curious myself.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

ADG,

Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh? I can repeat this over and over again for you, since you are obviously not a very intelligent person

There are no other notable shareholders. The only other shareholders have minority stakes as part of incentive programs. Who those shareholders are is not my place to tell, if they want you to know they can come here and tell you themselves.

Yeah, I am not very intelligent, nonetheless, you have just proved that you are a lying punk ass bitch, and not a multi-millionaire company owner, since you were dishonest by not previously revealing who your partners (owners) are.

In a previous post you indicated that:

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'Where did I say its not a corporation? Either way, do not expect that I am going to tell you specifically who owns what percentage. Its none of your or anyone elses business. It's also not in my place to divulge what other people own, that is on them to do if they want to (which I doubt). The two you mentioned above currently own no shares in Manwin though, that much I can say.

That does not mean they might not get shares at a later stage for incentive purposes of course.

You just indicated that you are in cahoots with the previous owners, which you have lied about until now, dumb ass...

Thanks - keep on with your boot licking...the one thing you appear good at!!!

ADG

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

In all honesty, if you really are THE MAN at Brazzers now, you should be proud for being able to afford such a large company. I'll give you that. That has taken an unbelievable amount of hard work I'm sure. It's the company's history and actions that unfortunately bring dirt and hate to your plate.

Get off GFY and go be with your family.

As I have said, I am working on improving the image of our tubes... Whoever does not believe me, I will do my best to convince with positive actions.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

As I have said, I am working on improving the image of our tubes... Whoever does not believe me, I will do my best to convince with positive actions.

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 06:40 AM

Oh god ADG,

How stupid are you? My reply was in regards to brazil and tank.

Idiot, can't even read right.

pradaboy · 07-18-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Prada,

I am sitting outside, drinking coffee and Ice cream with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy if someone has posted some more funky bullshit and if so, I post...

I love the Internet, that it is possible to comment this way.. I also love discussions... So I just post in my spare time...

Enjoy your time man, I don't know you, I don't like what Brazzers/Mansef has done to this industry but you have to admit these discussions are useless. Only time will tell what this transaction will change.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-18-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Oh god ADG,

How stupid are you? My reply was in regards to brazil and tank.

Idiot, can't even read right.

My question was about Stephane Manos and OUISAMM Youseff, not about Brazil and Tank.

Once again, you are the idiot that doesn't even understand the difference between a partnership (with thieves) and a public corporation.

Otherwise, you could easily list your public corporation directors/investors/board members. Why don't you list them?

ADG

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 07:25 AM

ADG, I would recheck post #321 before you make yourself look like a fool.. my comment you so well quoted, the "may get shares later" was clearly in reply to this from you:

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I do not consider anyone to be a worthless peon. I stated that you implied this by inferring that people that had only a 1% or 2% interest in your company were insignificant, and therefore not even worth of mentioning - being condescending appears to be one of your main personality traits.

So, are Brazil and Tank 1% to 2% shareholders in your corporation or whatever it is that you are?

Wait, you said it's not a corporation, but by definition "shareholders" hold stock in a corporation. Are Brazil and Tank shareholders or stakeholders in whatever legal entity Manwin is? If not, who were you referring to?

Unless I am totally blind, you are talking about brazil and tank there... so sorry...

Regarding the listing of public corp docs... that would remove all the fun in talking to someone like you on here... you have to do some of the work and at least find it yourself!

opflix · 07-18-2010, 07:34 AM

why are posts being edited on this joint? i clearly read what i posted after i posted it and now its gone

pradaboy · 07-18-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by opflix

why are posts being edited on this joint? i clearly read what i posted after i posted it and now its gone

money = power

MikeSmoke · 07-18-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius

That's another topic altogether, but I have always disliked any site that uses purchased, non-exclusive content. I believe in exclusive content, myself. This isn't to insult any content producers, as a number of them do very good work, but just a general opinion.

Aren't you leaving out a very big category --- sites that use purchased, exclusive content? All the props in the world to people like Robbie who have a site built around a personality who can be interactive, but when you feature 6-12 exclusive models a month shot to our specs, as we do, interactivity with the models isn't really an option.

(I've tried member/community interactivity in my free community area. But surprise of all surprises, they're not interested; they spend their interactive time, "interacting" with each other on sites that let them upload and download stolen content. Most of their "interaction" consists of "Ooooh, nice one. MORE, PLEASE!" )

will76 · 07-18-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Is that dirtyD ?

will76 · 07-18-2010, 09:13 AM

I don't know, when I am at the point that I can buy 100 million dollar companies I will likely never visit GFY again lol.

JFK · 07-18-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

I don't know, when I am at the point that I can buy 100 million dollar companies I will likely never visit GFY again lol.

Yes, but that is you ;)

07-17-2010, 11:59 PM	#303
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management. You just chose to not believe me. Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257. But, regardless of that fact, I actually thought similarly about some of these aspects before I acquired the assets in question, but I also talked to prominent law firms to explain DMCA to me and I have now fully understood it. Some of you might want to do the same, since you clearly do not. That said, I have also said time and time again that we are changing certain things of how the tubes operate. I can repeat myself 500 times though if you plan to post some baseless accusation over and over again too... I have no problem with that. ADG, you are not hurting me one bit by re-posting this stuff, I could not care less what you think. I enjoy certain types of discussions on the weekends because it relaxes me between working days while I watch TV for example... you are just entertaining me. Of course, you can go on if you want to as I said, I will just come back and reply with the same facts every time... __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

07-18-2010, 12:00 AM	#304
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07-18-2010, 12:01 AM	#305
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07-18-2010, 12:07 AM	#306
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on. Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know. The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability. Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions. Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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07-17-2010, 11:57 PM	#302
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07-18-2010, 12:55 AM	#311
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	ADG, the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok. As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though. ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right? __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

07-18-2010, 03:31 AM	#319
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07-18-2010, 05:00 AM	#322
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07-18-2010, 06:00 AM	#326
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	ADG, Jealous that I am rich enough to buy brazzers, huh? I can repeat this over and over again for you, since you are obviously not a very intelligent person There are no other notable shareholders. The only other shareholders have minority stakes as part of incentive programs. Who those shareholders are is not my place to tell, if they want you to know they can come here and tell you themselves. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

07-18-2010, 06:10 AM	#328
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07-18-2010, 06:17 AM	#330
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Prada, I am sitting outside, drinking coffee and Ice cream with my parents and my wife and kid, now and then checking gfy if someone has posted some more funky bullshit and if so, I post... I love the Internet, that it is possible to comment this way.. I also love discussions... So I just post in my spare time... __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

07-18-2010, 06:40 AM	#341
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Oh god ADG, How stupid are you? My reply was in regards to brazil and tank. Idiot, can't even read right. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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07-18-2010, 09:13 AM	#349
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