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bdjerk · 07-18-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurbs

Not sure why everyone is so quick to the pitch forks.

While I'm not familiar with who the players at Virage / Manwin are, I know that the sale happened. This isn't a smoke and mirrors sale, ownership has changed hands. Any buyer in the program market can tell you this.

That being said, I know for a fact that when buying a company and retaining the operational staff, last thing on your mind is changing all the company letterhead.

Acquisition space is a fast action, hit them hard and see returns game. I'm sure they are all looking for ways to increase the bottom line, or integrate their more profitable business methods.

I know first hand that Pornhub network of tubes have all been quietly working very hard with original content owners to further monetize the content directly and get the tubes to what they could have always been, a real traffic source for content owners to earn with. ( As long as DMCA is the loop hole, I'd take 50% of something , over 100% of nothing )

I'd say that when a guy like Fabian comes out and gives a direct line of contact, people with problems should use it.

oh shut the fuck up, you work for a guy who single handedly(almost) fucked the whole banking community. the little 'cleaning up the spill' disaster response from fabien is pathetic. he's no angel. cry me a fucking river.

JFK · 07-18-2010, 09:14 AM

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bdjerk · 07-18-2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Call me crazy but a man who can afford to drop over 100 million dollars on a criminal enterprise would not be wasting his time on GFY in such a useless conversation.

I'm calling shenanigans.

it wasn't his money. he's a front man. a modern day joe E.
he's the guy all the invisible money men, the pupeteers looked around and said, "hey we really need a guy that we can send to the morons down on the street. someone who has half a shot at turning the image around because he used to be someone who bro'd around and shook hands at shows. who can we put out there in the front?"

world meet nathan. he's not a big money man, he's a firefighter.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bdjerk

you work for a guy who single handedly(almost) fucked the whole banking community.

Nailed that one. hahaha did some serious damage.

Tjeezers · 07-18-2010, 10:55 AM

Good luck with your business and answering posts here
From what I have seen and read, you seem to be a good fit for the adult industry.

TwinCities · 07-18-2010, 11:52 AM

I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

marketsmart · 07-18-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinCities

I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

did you know that there are actually 2 servings of vegetables in a sloppy joe sandwich?

and they are delicious too.....

.

lazycash · 07-18-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Good luck with your business and answering posts here
From what I have seen and read, you seem to be a good fit for the adult industry.

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinCities

I am really not sure what all the hoopla is here in this big ass thread. Manwin is a great company and I have eaten their Sloppy Joe's since I was a kid.

babymaker · 07-18-2010, 01:14 PM

erooup · 07-18-2010, 02:30 PM

http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/...2009_13445.asp

BigDeanEvans · 07-18-2010, 04:58 PM

How does one go from owning nats to buying up a 140 million dollar company?

JFK · 07-18-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How does one go from owning nats to buying up a 140 million dollar company?

think BIG

DaddyHalbucks · 07-18-2010, 05:08 PM

Congrats and good luck!

TwinCities · 07-18-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How does one go from owning nats to buying up a 140 million dollar company?

Easy, these guys have actually been in business since 1969, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manwich LOL

ThumbLord · 07-18-2010, 05:12 PM

erooup thanks for the link.

Qbert · 07-18-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How does one go from owning nats to buying up a 140 million dollar company?

Silent partners? Family? Connected?

BigDeanEvans · 07-18-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

Silent partners? Family? Connected?

Lets hope Fabian answers this one

BigDeanEvans · 07-18-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinCities

Easy, these guys have actually been in business since 1969, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manwich LOL

Is manwich worth 140 million lol ? Is brazers/pornhub really worth 140 mill??

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How does one go from owning nats to buying up a 140 million dollar company?

THIS IS NOT AN ACCUSATION OR A SERIOUS POST!

What if....

Imagine if all the hidden charges that people were getting on their credit cards was not related to the shady programs that everyone has pinned the blame on, and in fact was due to the NATS partner having access to all those credit cards and banging them (oh, I don't know....... via that huge security breach NATS had two years ago - isn't that when the real card banging started?), making millions and millions of dollars to purchase a large company like Brazzers and others. The shady programs take the blame, this guy makes out like a bandit, no one knows the wiser.

It would be a scam for the record books.

Of course this didn't happen, this was only a "what if" post for the sake of entertainment.

That would be something, huh?

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

Silent partners? Family? Connected?

Family, connected & lucky to be at the right place at the right time.

My first 3 acquisitions were 7 figures each, first one paid for second and third, the 3 together worked perfectly as planned...

But like everyone here knows anyway, tubes make no money, so all this was really cheap anyway....

Nathan · 07-18-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

THIS IS NOT AN ACCUSATION OR A SERIOUS POST!

What if....

Imagine if all the hidden charges that people were getting on their credit cards was not related to the shady programs that everyone has pinned the blame on, and in fact was due to the NATS partner having access to all those credit cards and banging them (oh, I don't know....... via that huge security breach NATS had two years ago - isn't that when the real card banging started?), making millions and millions of dollars to purchase a large company like Brazzers and others. The shady programs take the blame, this guy makes out like a bandit, no one knows the wiser.

It would be a scam for the record books.

Of course this didn't happen, this was only a "what if" post for the sake of entertainment.

That would be something, huh?

Would be the perfect twist for a movie like Middle Men.. maybe I should make one too.. hmmm...

then again, I left TMM long ago... :/

crazytrini85 · 07-18-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Would be the perfect twist for a movie like Middle Men.. maybe I should make one too.. hmmm...

Would be a great twist for that movie.

Adam_M · 07-18-2010, 11:29 PM

Congratulations Fabian, look forward to don't much business together in the years to come

GonZo · 07-18-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I don't have to try and make you look stupid...

You do quite well at that all by yourself (Managing Partner of what you say is a non-partnership, LOL).

Although, this may be a more accurate description of your position:

From what I have heard, you are just a lackey for Daniel and Sam - This Sam and Dan., whom you so far claim no knowledge of.

Oh, and congrats on getting LickMyBalls banned - for a poser (OPM) millionaire you come across to me as a sniveling rat...

I guess that is why you did not respond to this post:

The above quote/post (with no response from Nathan/Fabian after almost 12 hours) pretty much sums up this thread and speaks volumes about Manwin...

ADG

Ah Daniel my old buddy that writes scareware software that makes your CD drawer pop out. Looks like hes been busy since he 127.0.0.1 oprano in his hosts file.

One more dot connected.

BigDeanEvans · 07-18-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

Ah Daniel my old buddy that writes scareware software that makes your CD drawer pop out. Looks like hes been busy since he 127.0.0.1 oprano in his hosts file.

One more dot connected.

woopsie

Like i said earlier, they all end up dead, broke or in federal prison

Socks · 07-19-2010, 12:40 AM

he's got some... change in his pocket... and he's... rarin' to go.

;)

ladida · 07-19-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

My first 3 acquisitions were 7 figures each, first one paid for second and third, the 3 together worked perfectly as planned...

And envisionext was one of them

$tandaman · 07-19-2010, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ladida

And envisionext was one of them

You are an idiot sir. I clearly stated that it's owned by me, and not Nathan. Quit stirring shit if you have no real information.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-19-2010, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

You are an idiot sir. I clearly stated that it's owned by me, and not Nathan. Quit stirring shit if you have no real information.

Assuming you are Stan Fiskin of Envisionext, were you ever the COO or VP of BizDev for Fabian Thylmann's Virage Media?

ADG

BigDeanEvans · 07-19-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Assuming you are Stan Fiskin of Envisionext, were you ever the COO or VP of BizDev for Fabian Thylmann's Virage Media?

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-19-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Crickets, like cockroaches, are mostly nocturnal creatures, whereas grasshoppers are mostly diurnal creatures, that mostly come out during the daylight.

It will be interesting to see if Standaman (Stan Fiskin) will be forthright and shed some true light on his association with Virage Media/Fabian Thylmann (GFY nick Nathan).

ADG

BigDeanEvans · 07-19-2010, 06:31 AM

Yeah, Stan care to shed some light on this?

And fabian, you said you did a deal here and a flip there and somehow you ended up with a $140,000,000 purchase...that's some serious flippping right there!!

ladida · 07-19-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

You are an idiot sir. I clearly stated that it's owned by me, and not Nathan. Quit stirring shit if you have no real information.

I'm not stirring any shit, im just saying what it is. I can name some other companies he owns as well. By owns i dont mean he is 100% the owner, i was replying to his "acquisitions" reply, so it's either a majority ownership, or something similar, but he is at least partly the owner (and i dont mean 1 or 2%).

Why would it be stirring shit anyway if he was the owner (or one of the) of envisionext?

fris · 07-19-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Family, connected & lucky to be at the right place at the right time.

My first 3 acquisitions were 7 figures each, first one paid for second and third, the 3 together worked perfectly as planned...

But like everyone here knows anyway, tubes make no money, so all this was really cheap anyway....

regarding my question about profiting off our content, you admit its ok, as long as you take it down when a dmca is sent?

fris · 07-19-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Assuming you are Stan Fiskin of Envisionext, were you ever the COO or VP of BizDev for Fabian Thylmann's Virage Media?

ADG

did envisionnext own likewoah that hosting company that ran off with everyones money and crashed and burned like a house on fire.

Mike Dutch · 07-19-2010, 07:10 AM

Congrats on this, good job

Agent 488 · 07-19-2010, 07:12 AM

it's all new frontmen. non one worth that much $ would degrade themselves like this.

bdjerk · 07-19-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

You are an idiot sir. I clearly stated that it's owned by me, and not Nathan. Quit stirring shit if you have no real information.

THIS URL IS ON MAILMAN'S BOARD/showthread.php?t=75203

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we arent trying to *pull* anything...
hahaha's business model and ours are a bit different
we have acquired xtube, iwantu, and envisionext so far

working on about 4 others as well

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Assuming you are Stan Fiskin of Envisionext, were you ever the COO or VP of BizDev for Fabian Thylmann's Virage Media?

ADG

GOOGLESEARCH search?q=iwantu.com+%2B+iwu.exe&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

google search

iwantu.com + iwu.exe

Didn't waste much time getting back to old biz.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Crickets, like cockroaches, are mostly nocturnal creatures, whereas grasshoppers are mostly diurnal creatures, that mostly come out during the daylight.

It will be interesting to see if Standaman (Stan Fiskin) will be forthright and shed some true light on his association with Virage Media/Fabian Thylmann (GFY nick Nathan).

ADG

i'm pretty sure it won't take long to find and disseminate all the public info .

Nathan · 07-19-2010, 10:08 AM

You are all rather funny still... Sorry that I could not post more, I actually had to work today, as compared to the weekend so not so much time for entertainment :/

ADG & ladida,
As I have said before in this thread, things change. Yes I tried merging with envisionext at one point in the past, but the merger was reverted since the benefits did not pan out for anyone at the time. Stan is very B2B and I am more B2C. We hoped a mix would be good, but even the best among us make mistakes... So, him saying he is not a part of Manwin is not a lie, which is all he said. Stan does have a lot of good contacts in the actual adult entertainment industry (not in the would-be one you are in) so he still introduces me to people now and then and does some consulting work for me.

BDE,
This is thread is not M&A 101, it's a clarification. I am not here to explain to you how to do good M&A deals, neither to tell you how much I spent on these assets. Your number is wrong though...

Bdjerk, I am not even sure what you are trying to prove with almost 2 year old posts... But this is 2010... Last time I checked there is no live page which lists my exact collection of assets... If you magically find one, let me know...

pradaboy · 07-19-2010, 10:31 AM

I do remember shit at envisionext & co was fishy to say the least. Buddy of mine went to prison because of it.

wargames · 07-19-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

regarding my question about profiting off our content, you admit its ok, as long as you take it down when a dmca is sent?

Hey Fris as you can see here
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1021902004

we've been working with the guys at pornhub to put our content up in a respectable way, and hope to continue to earn with them in the future. we appreciate your concern.

If any other tubes are looking to list our content with proper advertising, hit us up, and we can go over it - drop your [email protected]

ladida · 07-19-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

So, him saying he is not a part of Manwin is not a lie, which is all he said.

I see what you did there, but incorrect.
Let's not go ahead and put words in my mouth here.
Stan is not part of manwin, that is correct, and i never said he was. Manwin is basically old mansef, with fiscal group as the new owner (or whatever you have the company named), and old employees minus the old owners.
I said that YOU own (or are a part owner) of a company that owns envisionext and a bunch of other adult related (and some not) companies. So re-read that. You merged at some point with envisionext, you moved to CEO etc etc.
I don't see why this is such a hot issue anyway, or why Stan came here telling me i am stirring shit?

Half man, Half Amazing · 07-19-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

Disagree with you there Farrell. The freedom to voice ones passionate opinions should not be determined by how much money one has spent to defend it. You deserve credit for the battles you have fought and won, but don't piss on the smaller folk who just haven't made it big yet. Those passionate little guys can grow up to be ethical big guys.

ahoy · 07-19-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wargames

Hey Fris as you can see here
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1021902004

we've been working with the guys at pornhub to put our content up in a respectable way, and hope to continue to earn with them in the future. we appreciate your concern.

If any other tubes are looking to list our content with proper advertising, hit us up, and we can go over it - drop your [email protected]

I am confused, the way Fris makes it sound, he works for FYC, is that not true?

crazytrini85 · 07-19-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wargames

Hey Fris as you can see here
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1021902004

we've been working with the guys at pornhub to put our content up in a respectable way, and hope to continue to earn with them in the future. we appreciate your concern.

If any other tubes are looking to list our content with proper advertising, hit us up, and we can go over it - drop your [email protected]

I see a 4 minute clip there with nothing that links back to your site.

What did I miss or where should I be looking? Just as an FYI, if I can't figure it out, your general surfer is also fucked.

wargames · 07-19-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

I see a 4 minute clip there with nothing that links back to your site.

What did I miss or where should I be looking? Just as an FYI, if I can't figure it out, your general surfer is also fucked.

There is a link above and a banner below to cruelty party

xanadu · 07-19-2010, 12:46 PM

well banner under the video player directs to a site of fuckyoucash for me, at least its a way for the sponsors to get some traffic

Agent 488 · 07-19-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

I see a 4 minute clip there with nothing that links back to your site.

What did I miss or where should I be looking? Just as an FYI, if I can't figure it out, your general surfer is also fucked.

blind much?

bdjerk · 07-19-2010, 01:18 PM

frontman finish last in the end.

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