Great News from Epassporte.... Wire Sent!!!! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Atticus · 09-10-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

I am so certain of the viability of the Epass Wallet for someone in the US that I would transfer money to the wallet no prob or be paid thru the wallet no prob from anywhere.

If it gets to my wallet. I know I can get it via ACH.

So altho things are more shakey for those outside the US right now, sponsors dont completly write off epass esp for us in the US.

Some sponsors are leaving it up to the wm. That seems like a good way. If the wm takes the risk and if you are also in the US it should still be a viable way to pay wms.

ACH seems pretty solid.

Pure speculation but...

An ACH is coming from one US account to another. Those funds are not frozen. What happens when those funds become limited?

Again, I dont have any knowledge of their inner workings but it seems pretty obvious that the funds being received via ACH are originating from a different US based account, not tha bank account(s) affected in St Kitts.

lagcam · 09-10-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

I am so certain of the viability of the Epass Wallet for someone in the US that I would transfer money to the wallet no prob or be paid thru the wallet no prob from anywhere.

If it gets to my wallet. I know I can get it via ACH.

So altho things are more shakey for those outside the US right now, sponsors dont completly write off epass esp for us in the US.

Some sponsors are leaving it up to the wm. That seems like a good way. If the wm takes the risk and if you are also in the US it should still be a viable way to pay wms.

ACH seems pretty solid.

"Past results are no guarantee of future performance".

This is an ever changing situation and caution and constant re-evaluation should be exercised. Yes wallet withdrawals to cards and via ACH have been working, but does that mean they will continue to work indefinitely?

How damaging will all these new threads and allegations prove? The situation and examination of epassporte's operation, and associations has clearly escalated over the last week, and I don't think that is a positive PERSONALLY. I have stated in other threads that these comments and accusations don't help anybody.

Strangely, the same goes for overly pro-epassporte statements by key industry figures.

Whilst we all have our own degrees of confidence or otherwise in the situation being satisfactorily resolved for all, these are our OWN opinions and people should treat them as such but people like Shap who is considered very knowledgeable and respected in this industry, is an AUTHORITY FIGURE and as such should IN MY OPINION be especially careful how endorsing he is.

Nothwithstanding the fact that most people noticed that whilst patting Chris Mallick on the back with one hand, the other hand was busy withdrawing his own cash.

Anyway, not knocking Shap. Not knocking epassporte. Just making a personal observation.

Vjo · 09-10-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Pure speculation but...

An ACH is coming from one US account to another. Those funds are not frozen. What happens when those funds become limited?

Again, I dont have any knowledge of their inner workings but it seems pretty obvious that the funds being received via ACH are originating from a different US based account, not tha bank account(s) affected in St Kitts.

Yeah not sure. I do know that epass for US to US is sort of redundant too as we can either use ACH directly with the sponsor or checks.

I have a couple sponsors "overseas" tho I am worried most about. I have looked into a couple of the European systems but they all come up short to epass.

Epass is able to somehow connect direct to ACH. That is where all the other European systems come up short. They mostly have to issue you a card which has tarifs and more mullarkey.

Most foreign sponsors do wires but then have either a high min or high fees so a viable worldwide epass is still badly needed for those in the US.

sologirlcontent · 09-10-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

"Past results are no guarantee of future performance".

Strangely, the same goes for overly pro-epassporte statements by key industry figures.

Whilst we all have our own degrees of confidence or otherwise in the situation being satisfactorily resolved for all, these are our OWN opinions and people should treat them as such but people like Shap who is considered very knowledgeable and respected in this industry, is an AUTHORITY FIGURE and as such should IN MY OPINION be especially careful how endorsing he is.

Nothwithstanding the fact that most people noticed that whilst patting Chris Mallick on the back with one hand, the other hand was busy withdrawing his own cash.

Anyway, not knocking Shap. Not knocking epassporte. Just making a personal observation.

well said and i agree totally..Let us not forget something still IS NOT straight forward at epass..they got fucked with for a REASON...and they don't want to say what that reason is

KarupLou · 09-10-2010, 08:55 PM

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way

. He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

gleem · 09-10-2010, 09:02 PM

heh, the bro's are getting paid, on the other hand people only pulling out $x,xxx or $xx,xxx or $xxx are getting stonewalled with BS paperwork requests they have already.

Big surprise.

gleem · 09-10-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KarupLou

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way

. He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

I've heard great stories about him too, however all the guy has to do is tell us what happened, and give a REAL update a couple times a week and that would prove he has half a soul.

I have affiliates in not so friendly banking areas crying to me about having to borrow money for food and rent forget about paying hosting and banner buys and stuff. They keep asking me if I heard anything...

if he's such a standup guy, why wasn't there more notice, why hasn't he come here to answer any questions? He might be out feeding starving puppies in Uganda, but simply telling us WTF is going on would go a long way to me believing he's a stand up guy.

If something like my bank account got hacked & drained, last thing I would do is make up some BS and let my affiliates hang in the wind, I know you wouldn't do that either Shap.

So congrats on your bro-wire shap, glad you got your hostages out, maybe you, Lou, and some bro-thers can implore chris to post some real news and let us know what's up.

vicki · 09-10-2010, 09:09 PM

two very important things are being overlooked here .... the bank(s) used and Visa!

The card associations (in this case Visa) have stringent regulations. The banks are obligated to adhere to those regulations or risk having assets frozen and their card usage (be it V or MC) pulled altogether.
Some banks take those regulations more seriously than others and the processors utilizing said banks KNOW exactly how well (or not) that bank is following the regs.

This is no happenstance - anyone who knows the banking / MA industry knows certain banks are volatile .. it's a simple fact.

It isn't the first time Visa smacked those banks and it won't be the last ... I'm just sayin

camchoice · 09-10-2010, 09:13 PM

Hallelujah, good news, thanks shap I needed that. Unfortunately the hate squad also woke up again.

I totally agree with shap, haters are going to be hated, be careful. My parents thought me to never bite the hand that feeds me, and I have a shitload of sandwiches on epassporte

BVF · 09-10-2010, 09:15 PM

a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED".

sologirlcontent · 09-10-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KarupLou

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way

. He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

this is heartfelt and I'm sure you believe what you are saying..so would you also say ( from a business point of view) the 20+million that was escrow 3 years ago, will never be made back on Middlemen ? I do know how the movie biz works and the money part ...so does, Chris Mallik 20 million to flush down the toilet? I'm not calling him a bad guy or even that he didn't anything wrong...but he obviously made a huge gamble that DID NOT pay off.. does he have that much to give away? My guess is NO. His heart may be Pure as the driven snow, and he is rich , but not rich enough to lose 20-30 million in the wind.

KarupLou · 09-10-2010, 09:22 PM

Gleem I had very little money in epass at the time this all went down so I didn't have any money to lose or gain. I simply believe in Chris. And I truly feel bad for the people affected by this. I'm a very generous and compassionate person. All I'm asking give him some time to work things out. He's doing his best to get things righted asap. Things have gone smooth for years and now things get messed up for him and everyone else all without warning. Just allow him the chance to make it right before lynching him. That's all im saying. He dont have a bro network. 1 dollar or 1 million owed is the same to him. Please just give him a chance is all im saying. I have respect for most people here and I don't post much but just allow him the chance and opportunity to get u guys straightened out. Don't judge him by other companies actions. I know companies have fucked ppl in the past including myself and my partners. It's happened twice to us by DMR and then WTS. So I feel the pain and I'm concerned for everyone affected but please just let him have a chance to work it out.

ShellyCrash · 09-10-2010, 09:30 PM

Shap's wire getting initiated is a step in the right direction.

For what its worth, what Shap is doing is what I think we all should be doing, only have funds sitting in a 3rd party account you need to be there to pay who you need to pay.
Your money can either earn points for you or points for them.

gleem · 09-10-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarupLou

Gleem I had very little money in epass at the time this all went down so I didn't have any money to lose or gain. I simply believe in Chris. And I truly feel bad for the people affected by this. I'm a very generous and compassionate person. All I'm asking give him some time to work things out. He's doing his best to get things righted asap. Things have gone smooth for years and now things get messed up for him and everyone else all without warning. Just allow him the chance to make it right before lynching him. That's all im saying. He dont have a bro network. 1 dollar or 1 million owed is the same to him. Please just give him a chance is all im saying. I have respect for most people here and I don't post much but just allow him the chance and opportunity to get u guys straightened out. Don't judge him by other companies actions. I know companies have fucked ppl in the past including myself and my partners. It's happened twice to us by DMR and then WTS. So I feel the pain and I'm concerned for everyone affected but please just let him have a chance to work it out.

Yes, from our point of view that have been here as long as you, we've all heard this song and dance from every other big crashing company, they were all great, they were all too big to fail, they all had friends that stuck up for them, they all had people kissing their asses in threads in the hopes it would get them a payout (not saying you are at all, quite the contrary you would be in the friend category), then we got the trolls, the flamers, the pathetic and the desperate. With each crisis it's the same song and dance, history repeats itself. In these threads I tend to make posts like these categorize it as you will but in my head it makes me think it will get a few more people either paid, or over the pain & denial, and moved to the next category, acceptance.

Same shit different crisis till proven otherwise. In all the crisis, a few bigger names get paid, the smaller masses have no chance.

WTS fucked you? The current WTS company? I'd like to hear that story, deserves it's own thread.

xxweekxx · 09-10-2010, 09:32 PM

its funny how people are suddenly "believing in chris" he has a shitty track record, he has fucked up companies in the past, and he is a douche bag for that movie. haha

btw nobody has gotten a wire.. "wire sent, and wire received" are two different things.lol

I cant count how many people have told me "money is on the way" and i never got shit

camchoice · 09-10-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED".

Yes notifications are good news, it is a step in the right direction and proves that people at epassporte are working on it.

I really can't believe epassporte would bother to send bogus emails to shut up the haters on gfy. Wire received will be next

KarupLou · 09-10-2010, 09:50 PM

Gleem WTS now is legit. This was way back in early 2000's by different operators and it wasnt the current team. The new guys r legit. It was their bank at that time that fucked them and we lost money and we heard same ole song and dance. We eventually lost and paid affiliates out of our own pockets till they resolved things which they did to a certain extent several months later. No need to start old drama. That's old news but I feel peoples pain. I've watched this thread carefully from minute one and I'm rooting for everyone to Chris to the guy owed 20 bucks. Regarding the old WTS. We paid out what was owed to affiliates way before we got anything back. Bottom line is chris is a friend and all of u r my peers. Im rooting for all here. Im in here telling u my honest thoughts and experiences and stand to gain nothing other than seeing everyone happy sooner before later but just please give him the respect and presumption of innocence until u or anyone else has solid reason to think or say otherwise. Chris is the last person on earth that would want this to happen but it did and he will do everything he can to get it worked out asap.

sologirlcontent · 09-10-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Hey Guys. I?ve been in constant contact with my rep (as well as a few other people) at Epassporte. Personally, the biggest thing I?ve been waiting to see is when wires would start being sent out. In my opinion that is the first step in the right direction. Today I heard one of my two wire requests was approved and sent. I have yet to receive it and as soon as I do I will update everyone. I believe this is the first step in the right direction.

I just wanted to add two things for you guys to think about.

First.. I?ve said this before and I think it?s worth repeating. This industry has had it?s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people?s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I?ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He?s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.

Second... You guys have to remember the people at Epassporte are human, they can read, and they have good memories. If you treat them like shit and rip them to shreds you can be DAMN sure it isn?t doing you any favors. I?ve seen this in the past. People that attack and try to bury a company usually get fucked the hardest. Those that are supportive and hopeful are usually the first to get paid. It?s human nature. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had 10 people that were supportive and 10 people that were real assholes. Who would you pay first? Might want to consider that before making your next post.

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

All in all I think this is a step in the right direction. I?ve done a lot of research this week. I?ve made a lot of phone calls. There has been a lot of information posted that really makes the situation look bad. I?ll be honest I?ve been worried. But for every bad thing I?ve seen posted I?ve heard a good thing from people with some REAL knowledge of what?s going on. Obviously nobody is saying it publically because if it turns out to not be true the mob will turn their attention towards them. That said I think with funds starting to be released people should tone it down a little. People reporting this to the news, calling the feds etc is retarded. Have you read the posts on here this week? There are some great posts and some intelligent people HOWEVER for every great post there are 10 retarded ones. Our industry is under enough stress as it is. We don?t need any more.

Give the man time. If the wires went out today it?s a huge step and shows Epassporte is far from dead. Supporting them gives us a better shot of getting paid than attacking them.

12 hours earlier..............

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Originally Posted by Shap

2010 has been really crazy. I knew things would be rough but I don't think anybody expected things to get as crazy and bad as they have.

Money that is earned and owed is VANISHING in thin air.
- Sponsors are closing up shop and not paying out the last amounts owed.
- Webmaster Checks gets accounts frozen. Sponsors still have not received a penny of their own money back from Webmaster Checks.
- Epassorte

Before this Epass situation I had already been screwed for more in 2010 than all of my 14 years in adult COMBINED! This shit is crazy and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. We are nowhere near the turning point imo.

I'm taking this epassporte situation as a HUGE Wake Up Call. We run a tight ship here but I'm going to tighten things up even more. Going to really be careful with who I do business with and that includes sponsors, affiliates, billers, whatever.

Have recent events changed how you are going to run your business moving forward?

....nuff said

haissem-o · 09-10-2010, 09:53 PM

thanks for sharing the good news

LoriAnderson · 09-10-2010, 09:54 PM

thx for the update

xxweekxx · 09-10-2010, 09:54 PM

haha i know its fucking comedy.. he is saying give epass a chance, yet he is taking his money.lol

if epass is good why dont you fund your wallet??

haha shit is comedy... on one breath some people are saying how chris M is a good dude, yet in the backend they requested a wire for their entire balance. lols

lagcam · 09-10-2010, 09:56 PM

Shap and other large players actually receiving their wires will only be good news if it is followed by a chorus of normal people adding "yes and me too!"

Vjo · 09-10-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by camchoice

I really can't believe epassporte would bother to send bogus emails to shut up the haters on gfy. Wire received will be next

Agreed. I really doubt epass is suddenly next week or soon going to fold and noone can login. I believe from reading all this the last week that they WANT to do biz as usual.

Still, if I had to wire $20,000 to the Wallet to pay epass affils and the VV funds were still outstanding, I would have reservations.

Actually I would not do it and I dont expect anyone else to do it.

I will still transfer a few hundred in from checking if I need to make payments (and the wallet is empty) but not many 1000's as sponsors must do. I trust them with 100s not 1000s

So all is very shakey until the VV funds are returned. Which I guess wont be anytime soon.

xxweekxx · 09-10-2010, 10:04 PM

lets not forget shap said he had to place phone calls, etc, to get his wire sent out.. he knows some top people there, and they also know him.... usually when a company folds, they pay out the big dogs who can afford lawyers, etc, then all the little people get screwed.lol

Vjo · 09-10-2010, 10:38 PM

I'm starting to think were all fucked and Epassporte is too.

I tried to keep the positive face on but it dont look good for Epassporte for at least a month. And by then.. we'll all have moved on to new payment methods.

Maybe we'll come back. But this not having a quick conclusion (I think by today Friday is a quick conclusion) really hurts Epassporte and us all. It aint over but Epass is in a world of hurt.

Besides I've seen xxweekxx stats somewhere on gfy before and have learned (finally) those guys are usually right.

j/k

So I guess it is time to forget about epass for a while. I'll go back to work now and wait for Mr Mallick's next letter.

NickB. · 09-10-2010, 10:42 PM

Great PR and publicity stunt from Epassporte paying you shap.... I am sure you know this as well...

Too many webmasters are fucked still...

charlie g · 09-10-2010, 11:26 PM

This is a step in the right direction... but until they come clean with the REAL reason VV funds were frozen there is absolutely no reason to trust they plan to continue business or make people whole. I really hope Monday we get an idea of what's going on. Absent that, epass is toast, which is very unfortunate.

will76 · 09-10-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KarupLou

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way

. He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

yeah there nerve of some people to get nervous and excited about having money tied up and not getting any real info... I lost money to DMR, Glowbill, Ibill....

and btw...

ahoy · 09-10-2010, 11:39 PM

Not really even sure how Epass works or what has exactly happened, but isn't the money "frozen" already peoples hard earned money?

How is this guy in any way a "hero" for getting people their money? I wouldn't expect anything less.. surely doesn't deserve a separate props thread.

will76 · 09-10-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

12 hours earlier..............

....nuff said

Shap as always been that way... it wasn't as bad as 12 hours but in the past he has gone from one extreme to another on topics more than a few times. Anyone remember cross sales ?

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Originally Posted by BVF

a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED".

Yeah no shit. "wire being sent" couldn't they be lieing or another excuse be made tomorrow or the next day about some other hold ups, backups or whatever. Point is that you have to trust that they are telling "wire being sent" is true. But all along he said your money was safe in the wallet and that the wires would be going out" why weren't you so trusting then and writing to the mob, trolls, haters, to settle down and give it time. Either way it's just words that you need to trust them untill you actually see the cash arrive.

will76 · 09-10-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

haha i know its fucking comedy.. he is saying give epass a chance, yet he is taking his money.lol

if epass is good why dont you fund your wallet??

haha shit is comedy... on one breath some people are saying how chris M is a good dude, yet in the backend they requested a wire for their entire balance. lols

Right and the other guy is saying how great Chris is and everyone should give him a chance yet he has no money with epass.... pure comedy indeed. But we are all just haters, trolls, the "mob" or whatever.

Bomber8888 · 09-11-2010, 12:12 AM

I'm not going to jump the gun and praise anyone yet until i get my money.. but the good news is that my 5 digit wire has been sent out of my wallet. Once i receive it which should be sometime mid next week i'll keep everyone posted.

I'll praise Michael and their support team for keeping me the loop and doing whatever they could to ensure i got paid and stayed confident in their companies abilities. If things pan out i'll keep using epass but i won't leave lump sums of cash in there.

Jason

will76 · 09-11-2010, 12:32 AM

i never doubted them either. What was wrong with you guys the last couple days??

McSpike · 09-11-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

I'll be happy when someone tells us the $$ hit the bank.

This fucking excatly! Until it hits your account, please do not start threads like this especially with 4 !!!! at the end.

McSpike · 09-11-2010, 12:43 AM

And what's wrong with us? WTF?! What's wrong with their fucking PR if we start with that!!!

the indigo · 09-11-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Hey Guys. I?ve been in constant contact with my rep (as well as a few other people) at Epassporte. Personally, the biggest thing I?ve been waiting to see is when wires would start being sent out. In my opinion that is the first step in the right direction. Today I heard one of my two wire requests was approved and sent. I have yet to receive it and as soon as I do I will update everyone. I believe this is the first step in the right direction.

I just wanted to add two things for you guys to think about.

First.. I?ve said this before and I think it?s worth repeating. This industry has had it?s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people?s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I?ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He?s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.

Second... You guys have to remember the people at Epassporte are human, they can read, and they have good memories. If you treat them like shit and rip them to shreds you can be DAMN sure it isn?t doing you any favors. I?ve seen this in the past. People that attack and try to bury a company usually get fucked the hardest. Those that are supportive and hopeful are usually the first to get paid. It?s human nature. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had 10 people that were supportive and 10 people that were real assholes. Who would you pay first? Might want to consider that before making your next post.

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

All in all I think this is a step in the right direction. I?ve done a lot of research this week. I?ve made a lot of phone calls. There has been a lot of information posted that really makes the situation look bad. I?ll be honest I?ve been worried. But for every bad thing I?ve seen posted I?ve heard a good thing from people with some REAL knowledge of what?s going on. Obviously nobody is saying it publically because if it turns out to not be true the mob will turn their attention towards them. That said I think with funds starting to be released people should tone it down a little. People reporting this to the news, calling the feds etc is retarded. Have you read the posts on here this week? There are some great posts and some intelligent people HOWEVER for every great post there are 10 retarded ones. Our industry is under enough stress as it is. We don?t need any more.

Give the man time. If the wires went out today it?s a huge step and shows Epassporte is far from dead. Supporting them gives us a better shot of getting paid than attacking them.

Good post, but seriously.

Yesterday, you were crying about 2010 being a bad year, including Epassporte. And now, at 9:00 PM on a Friday night, one of your wire request is 'out'.

You are Shap. The guy that owns Twistyscash.com - The one that mentioned 'Epassporte' in your "2010 Has Turned out to be WAY Worse for the industry than I expected. What's next?" thread.

I mean, if I owned Epassporte, I would bust my ass to make sure the big boys posting on GFY get some good news on Friday, before another long weekend. That is way more effective than a BS "official statement" with no news at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

So you are telling us he had no loan AT ALL on that money put in escrow? Come on... as any business worldwide, you get loans. The first big payments were probably due after the release of the movie, expecting a few millions back.

Even Tiger Wood gets a loan for his new home. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates... they all know how the money works! ie: Don't work for the money, make the money work for you. They all use banks and loans all the time, even if they are billionaires. Nobody in his right mind would cashdown 30 millions and get taxed right away on it.

I seriously hope Epassporte gets over it... so thanks for the feedback regarding this good news. I just did not like the ass kissing.

2intense · 09-11-2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haissem-o

thanks for sharing the good news

The Porn Nerd · 09-11-2010, 12:53 AM

When Shap says "Wire RECEIVED, money RECEIVED" then I will believe it. Til then: bullshit.

PXN · 09-11-2010, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

When Shap says "Wire RECEIVED, money RECEIVED" then I will believe it. Til then: bullshit.

+1

Saying wire is out is useless.

hawkadu · 09-11-2010, 02:03 AM

waiting for update on this one...

seeandsee · 09-11-2010, 02:10 AM

Where is my virtual money then!?

ladida · 09-11-2010, 02:13 AM

Wires were supposedly sent on friday. That means they bought time for 4 more days at least

blofer80 · 09-11-2010, 02:22 AM

I still havent got my wire going out and i am waiting sincel last EARLY friday

On the other hand i am more optimistic now.

CamWealth · 09-11-2010, 02:27 AM

Ive been saying on other forums that everything would work out its just going to take some time and i think epass will probably if they loose visa will migrate to a different company possibly MC like payoneer.

Agent 488 · 09-11-2010, 02:33 AM

it is done. prepare for the worst. we can adapt.

lucPL · 09-11-2010, 02:33 AM

ok i believe this is a good news but i hope that not only "bro's" will be paid

because so far only large players are getting their wires

GotGauge · 09-11-2010, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Shap as always been that way... it wasn't as bad as 12 hours but in the past he has gone from one extreme to another on topics more than a few times. Anyone remember cross sales ?

Yeah no shit. "wire being sent" couldn't they be lieing or another excuse be made tomorrow or the next day about some other hold ups, backups or whatever. Point is that you have to trust that they are telling "wire being sent" is true. But all along he said your money was safe in the wallet and that the wires would be going out" why weren't you so trusting then and writing to the mob, trolls, haters, to settle down and give it time. Either way it's just words that you need to trust them untill you actually see the cash arrive.

Exactly,
I have had Notifications of things being sent from an Ebay purchase, that were never sent.
With that said, keep in mind, If I was going to run with the money I would pay a FEW people out with wires. We already know and have from the begining ACH works fine on the wallet side!
Not to scare people, but you can thank Ibill and a few others!

sologirlcontent · 09-11-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucPL

ok i believe this is a good news but i hope that not only "bro's" will be paid

because so far only large players are getting their wires

and remember the REASON THE BANK HAD VISA TURNED OFF....
"deficiencies"

de·fi·cien·cy

1.
the state of being deficient; lack; incompleteness; insufficiency.
2.
the amount lacked; a deficit.

—Synonyms
1. shortage, inadequacy, paucity, scarcity.

Not doubt in my mind that the 1st payment for Middlemen loan was due 30 days after it's AUG 6th release...where was Epass on Sept 6th...feeding all you a plate of bullshit, so they can sit on money ,possible get some interest and make a payment on that 20-30million bomb ..or even see if bankruptcy is an option, which actually looks a whole lot better as the days go by without Epass making any money.

Guys no need to get happy for a few wallet wires to go out ( it's your money to begin with) but Im sure you have ALOT more tied up in VV

mn · 09-11-2010, 08:18 AM

if it's sent and within the SWIFT network someone working at a bank as swift operator or access to this system can see it almost instantly after being processed.

my guess is they use an intermediary bank here and that bank have not yet passed on the wire into the swift system for further processing to your bank.

CyberHustler · 09-11-2010, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

and remember the REASON THE BANK HAD VISA TURNED OFF....
"deficiencies"

de·fi·cien·cy

1.
the state of being deficient; lack; incompleteness; insufficiency.
2.
the amount lacked; a deficit.

—Synonyms
1. shortage, inadequacy, paucity, scarcity.

Not doubt in my mind that the 1st payment for Middlemen loan was due 30 days after it's AUG 6th release...where was Epass on Sept 6th...feeding all you a plate of bullshit, so they can sit on money ,possible get some interest and make a payment on that 20-30million bomb ..or even see if bankruptcy is an option, which actually looks a whole lot better as the days go by without Epass making any money.

Guys no need to get happy for a few wallet wires to go out ( it's your money to begin with) but Im sure you have ALOT more tied up in VV

Who's that in your avatar?

P.S. See sig 100 times, faggots!

09-10-2010, 08:55 PM	#55
KarupLou Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 323	Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way . He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out! __________________ Karups Retains

09-10-2010, 09:02 PM	#56
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	heh, the bro's are getting paid, on the other hand people only pulling out $x,xxx or $xx,xxx or $xxx are getting stonewalled with BS paperwork requests they have already. Big surprise. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

09-10-2010, 09:09 PM	#58
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	two very important things are being overlooked here .... the bank(s) used and Visa! The card associations (in this case Visa) have stringent regulations. The banks are obligated to adhere to those regulations or risk having assets frozen and their card usage (be it V or MC) pulled altogether. Some banks take those regulations more seriously than others and the processors utilizing said banks KNOW exactly how well (or not) that bank is following the regs. This is no happenstance - anyone who knows the banking / MA industry knows certain banks are volatile .. it's a simple fact. It isn't the first time Visa smacked those banks and it won't be the last ... I'm just sayin __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746 Last edited by vicki; 09-10-2010 at 09:11 PM..

09-10-2010, 09:13 PM	#59
camchoice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,267	Hallelujah, good news, thanks shap I needed that. Unfortunately the hate squad also woke up again. I totally agree with shap, haters are going to be hated, be careful. My parents thought me to never bite the hand that feeds me, and I have a shitload of sandwiches on epassporte __________________ Free Porn Webcams

09-10-2010, 09:15 PM	#60
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED". __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

09-10-2010, 09:22 PM	#62
KarupLou Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 323	Gleem I had very little money in epass at the time this all went down so I didn't have any money to lose or gain. I simply believe in Chris. And I truly feel bad for the people affected by this. I'm a very generous and compassionate person. All I'm asking give him some time to work things out. He's doing his best to get things righted asap. Things have gone smooth for years and now things get messed up for him and everyone else all without warning. Just allow him the chance to make it right before lynching him. That's all im saying. He dont have a bro network. 1 dollar or 1 million owed is the same to him. Please just give him a chance is all im saying. I have respect for most people here and I don't post much but just allow him the chance and opportunity to get u guys straightened out. Don't judge him by other companies actions. I know companies have fucked ppl in the past including myself and my partners. It's happened twice to us by DMR and then WTS. So I feel the pain and I'm concerned for everyone affected but please just let him have a chance to work it out. __________________ Karups Retains

09-10-2010, 09:30 PM	#63
ShellyCrash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,708	Shap's wire getting initiated is a step in the right direction. For what its worth, what Shap is doing is what I think we all should be doing, only have funds sitting in a 3rd party account you need to be there to pay who you need to pay. Your money can either earn points for you or points for them. __________________ Start making money with the hottest hookup site! up to $55 PPS or up to 75% Revshare ICQ 196766477

09-10-2010, 09:32 PM	#65
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	its funny how people are suddenly "believing in chris" he has a shitty track record, he has fucked up companies in the past, and he is a douche bag for that movie. haha btw nobody has gotten a wire.. "wire sent, and wire received" are two different things.lol I cant count how many people have told me "money is on the way" and i never got shit __________________ _________________ I am the best

09-10-2010, 09:50 PM	#67
KarupLou Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 323	Gleem WTS now is legit. This was way back in early 2000's by different operators and it wasnt the current team. The new guys r legit. It was their bank at that time that fucked them and we lost money and we heard same ole song and dance. We eventually lost and paid affiliates out of our own pockets till they resolved things which they did to a certain extent several months later. No need to start old drama. That's old news but I feel peoples pain. I've watched this thread carefully from minute one and I'm rooting for everyone to Chris to the guy owed 20 bucks. Regarding the old WTS. We paid out what was owed to affiliates way before we got anything back. Bottom line is chris is a friend and all of u r my peers. Im rooting for all here. Im in here telling u my honest thoughts and experiences and stand to gain nothing other than seeing everyone happy sooner before later but just please give him the respect and presumption of innocence until u or anyone else has solid reason to think or say otherwise. Chris is the last person on earth that would want this to happen but it did and he will do everything he can to get it worked out asap. __________________ Karups Retains

09-10-2010, 09:53 PM	#69
haissem-o Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 74	thanks for sharing the good news __________________ Sig too big http://www.gfy.com/the-round-table/950962-rules-live.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

09-10-2010, 09:54 PM	#70
LoriAnderson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,713	thx for the update __________________ Luv Lori xoxo LotzaDollars Dream-Cash Guy-Dollars Skype: Lori-Anderson

09-10-2010, 09:56 PM	#72
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	Shap and other large players actually receiving their wires will only be good news if it is followed by a chorus of normal people adding "yes and me too!" __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

09-10-2010, 10:04 PM	#74
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	lets not forget shap said he had to place phone calls, etc, to get his wire sent out.. he knows some top people there, and they also know him.... usually when a company folds, they pay out the big dogs who can afford lawyers, etc, then all the little people get screwed.lol __________________ _________________ I am the best

09-10-2010, 10:38 PM	#75
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	I'm starting to think were all fucked and Epassporte is too. I tried to keep the positive face on but it dont look good for Epassporte for at least a month. And by then.. we'll all have moved on to new payment methods. Maybe we'll come back. But this not having a quick conclusion (I think by today Friday is a quick conclusion) really hurts Epassporte and us all. It aint over but Epass is in a world of hurt. Besides I've seen xxweekxx stats somewhere on gfy before and have learned (finally) those guys are usually right. j/k So I guess it is time to forget about epass for a while. I'll go back to work now and wait for Mr Mallick's next letter. Last edited by Vjo; 09-10-2010 at 10:44 PM..

09-10-2010, 10:42 PM	#76
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	Great PR and publicity stunt from Epassporte paying you shap.... I am sure you know this as well... Too many webmasters are fucked still...

09-10-2010, 11:26 PM	#77
charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,758	This is a step in the right direction... but until they come clean with the REAL reason VV funds were frozen there is absolutely no reason to trust they plan to continue business or make people whole. I really hope Monday we get an idea of what's going on. Absent that, epass is toast, which is very unfortunate. __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------

09-10-2010, 11:39 PM	#79
ahoy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 512	Not really even sure how Epass works or what has exactly happened, but isn't the money "frozen" already peoples hard earned money? How is this guy in any way a "hero" for getting people their money? I wouldn't expect anything less.. surely doesn't deserve a separate props thread.

09-11-2010, 12:12 AM	#82
Bomber8888 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,444	I'm not going to jump the gun and praise anyone yet until i get my money.. but the good news is that my 5 digit wire has been sent out of my wallet. Once i receive it which should be sometime mid next week i'll keep everyone posted. I'll praise Michael and their support team for keeping me the loop and doing whatever they could to ensure i got paid and stayed confident in their companies abilities. If things pan out i'll keep using epass but i won't leave lump sums of cash in there. Jason __________________ Icq - 403858640 bomber.jason AT gmail dot com

09-11-2010, 12:32 AM	#83
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	i never doubted them either. What was wrong with you guys the last couple days?? __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

09-11-2010, 12:43 AM	#85
McSpike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 1,042	And what's wrong with us? WTF?! What's wrong with their fucking PR if we start with that!!!

09-11-2010, 12:53 AM	#88
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,532	When Shap says "Wire RECEIVED, money RECEIVED" then I will believe it. Til then: bullshit. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

09-11-2010, 02:03 AM	#90
hawkadu Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 276	waiting for update on this one...

09-11-2010, 02:10 AM	#91
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09-11-2010, 02:13 AM	#92
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	Wires were supposedly sent on friday. That means they bought time for 4 more days at least __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

09-11-2010, 02:22 AM	#93
blofer80 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 932	I still havent got my wire going out and i am waiting sincel last EARLY friday On the other hand i am more optimistic now.

09-11-2010, 02:27 AM	#94
CamWealth Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 73	Ive been saying on other forums that everything would work out its just going to take some time and i think epass will probably if they loose visa will migrate to a different company possibly MC like payoneer. __________________ Camwealth.com - Marketing Director / Web Developer. We also have a free links directory if you need a place to drop your adult links.

09-11-2010, 02:33 AM	#95
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	it is done. prepare for the worst. we can adapt.

09-11-2010, 02:33 AM	#96
lucPL Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUCCP Posts: 305	ok i believe this is a good news but i hope that not only "bro's" will be paid because so far only large players are getting their wires

09-11-2010, 08:18 AM	#99
mn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,505	if it's sent and within the SWIFT network someone working at a bank as swift operator or access to this system can see it almost instantly after being processed. my guess is they use an intermediary bank here and that bank have not yet passed on the wire into the swift system for further processing to your bank.