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Old 09-24-2010, 04:04 AM   #151
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Not a fair or accurate statement at all. Sure many probably do. I report every red penny I earn and pay the appropriate taxes.

Ditto, and I did daily ACH withdrawal. Got everything out except the last 21k in the wallet.

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Old 09-24-2010, 04:05 AM   #152
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My/Our claim would be in excess of your threshold. One of our corporations is incorporated in Curacao, Dutch Antilles. We have legal contacts there.

Most of of us, myself included, knew we were dealing with businessmen of less than the best ethics.

One thing that bothers me is tossing good money after bad. SKNAB may have the funds. However, this bank's financial statements, at least those that I have seen ( Eastern Caribbean Securities Exchange (ECSE)), have been accepted unaudited for over a year now by it stock's listing exchange.

Of course, we can try to contact the bank and attempt to resolve this matter independent of ePassporte. But this doesn't let ePassporte off the hook, ePassporte acted with recklessness, negligence and/or with collusion as our fiduciary in placing our funds in jeopardy with SKANB.

"Sorry, we can't get your money" is not acceptable. You can't make a rock bleed however it can be crushed into sand.

Since both ePassporte and SKANB are not US corporations there would be little recourse within the US Federal Courts.
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My/Our claim would be in excess of your threshold. One of our corporations is incorporated in Curacao, Dutch Antilles. We have legal contacts there.

Most of of us, myself included, knew we were dealing with businessmen of less than the best ethics.

One thing that bothers me is tossing good money after bad. SKNAB may have the funds. However, this bank's financial statements, at least those that I have seen ( Eastern Caribbean Securities Exchange (ECSE)), have been accepted unaudited for over a year now by it stock's listing exchange.

Of course, we can try to contact the bank and attempt to resolve this matter independent of ePassporte. But this doesn't let ePassporte off the hook, ePassporte acted with recklessness, negligence and/or with collusion as our fiduciary in placing our funds in jeopardy with SKANB.

"Sorry, we can't get your money" is not acceptable. You can't make a rock bleed however it can be crushed into sand.

Since both ePassporte and SKANB are not US corporations there would be little recourse within the US Federal Courts.
Good post. So what do you suggest?
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:36 AM   #161
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:42 AM   #162
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Not a fair or accurate statement at all. Sure many probably do. I report every red penny I earn and pay the appropriate taxes.
Me too but what is the reason to hold that much money in epass? I kept there only as much money as I needed for my business (paying stuff like domains, hosting, scripts). I doubt most of peeople needed to hold there thousands or more $$$ for their regular business. Using epass to hold your savings there just instead of in a real bank account is still pretty stupid.
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and maybe some threats??
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:48 AM   #165
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:49 AM   #166
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and maybe some threats??
Anyone stupid enough to threaten a bank over the phone does not desever to get their money back.
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:52 AM   #167
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Anyone stupid enough to threaten a bank over the phone does not desever to get their money back.
Unlike the geniuses threatening violence on a public message board....... which is incredibly clever.
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Unlike the geniuses threatening violence on a public message board....... which is incredibly clever.
Most of the trolls you are referring to probably don't even have an epass account. And if they do, they are terrified of losing a couple of hundred dollars.
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i saw that. not really funny.
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Good post. So what do you suggest?
1.) Attempt to settle these claims with SKANB but not get played for time.

2.) Try and locate ePassporte's assets and see if we can have a court attach the assets remaining toward recovering enough to make any legal expenditure worthwhile.

3.) Form a Committee of Creditors if the Bankruptcy Laws of the Dutch Antilles have a provision for Involuntary Bankruptcy ? force ePassporte into Bankruptcy. (Only if some substantial recovery is possible.)

I will be doing #1 Today ? sad to admit but I got played for time by ePassporte's bullshit.
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I'm on my phone can someone add up the rough amounts listed to give us a ballpark figure of what we are looking at as a group? Thanks
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:00 AM   #173
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Seems ACH and CC withdrawals are back up? I just withdrew $50 from my wallet to my CC successfully. When I say successfully, I mean it said it was a success ;)
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:02 AM   #174
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count me in for whatever.

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I'm on my phone can someone add up the rough amounts listed to give us a ballpark figure of what we are looking at as a group? Thanks
It looks to be well over 250k, probably over 300k (in this thread).
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about 1k in my VV, not alot but money is money and i'd like to get it back.

from reading this thread alone the total amount locked up must be staggering.
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Good post. So what do you suggest?
Hire a local (St Kitts) Lawyer and make him contact Financial Regulatory Department ad Ministry of Finance, to pressure the bank.

Try to blow the whole deal public - world news, etc.


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Hire a local (St Kitts) Lawyer and make him contact Financial Regulatory Department ad Ministry of Finance, to pressure the bank.
I think this is the best course of action.
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I got lucky on this one as I only have $9.25 in epass. I would get paid and turn right around and pull the funds out thank god no one paid on the 1st. I hope you all get your funds back.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:15 AM   #182
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What I don't get is how all that speculation of compliance and all .

- Guy opens movie business
- Guy fully finances projects in movie business
- Guy makes ego movie about himself
- Guy is way over the budget that Oxymoron is supposed to be ( 2 to 8 million )
- Guy has an account in St-Kitts bank called Epassporte
- Guy says to bank : I need interim financing on my great movie\
- Guy promises to bank that ROI on that movie will cover plenty the loan
- BanK says to Guy: gimme collateral
- Bank takes epass account as colateral
- Bank is no dummies : see the movie flopped royally
- Bank suspends VV to keep account with cash

As for Wallet, maybe they got a court otder to seize, or Guy gave them to get off ....

If you are going to sue Epassprte , you need to pierce the corporate veil ( which is already exposed ) and show the money in motion to Oxymoron ... You maybe wont get it back, but create enough heat that he will be labelled as a cancer in Hollywood : destroy his dream and ego ...


Now , I am ready for the stupid name calling .

I speculate compliance because they were involved in some shady businesses and not that long ago new laws came out about compliance and banking. As of this point though, everything both you and I say is speculation, because unless you are in the management team of epassporte or work for st kitts bank or visa. We really dont know shit.
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Very likely you are suing the wrong guy/company. The bank probably took the funds because Epass don't have sufficient funds for the credit/debit card. It widely known that offshore hold extra funds for credit/debit to protect themselves from charge back, etc. So that means the bank themselves are deficiency in funds.

Your money is in Middle Men which Chris M took to invest in so sue him. Why make it your problem when he's the one that responsible for putting your funds at risk in the first place. So he screw it up, make him paid for this mistake.

Regarding suing a bank in St.Kitt, good luck with that. What make anyone think they would give a shit or their court give a shit. Best to go after someone in the US where law and order matters.
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What I don't get is how all that speculation of compliance and all .

- Guy opens movie business
- Guy fully finances projects in movie business
- Guy makes ego movie about himself
- Guy is way over the budget that Oxymoron is supposed to be ( 2 to 8 million )
- Guy has an account in St-Kitts bank called Epassporte
- Guy says to bank : I need interim financing on my great movie\
- Guy promises to bank that ROI on that movie will cover plenty the loan
- BanK says to Guy: gimme collateral
- Bank takes epass account as colateral
- Bank is no dummies : see the movie flopped royally
- Bank suspends VV to keep account with cash

As for Wallet, maybe they got a court otder to seize, or Guy gave them to get off ....

If you are going to sue Epassprte , you need to pierce the corporate veil ( which is already exposed ) and show the money in motion to Oxymoron ... You maybe wont get it back, but create enough heat that he will be labelled as a cancer in Hollywood : destroy his dream and ego ...


Now , I am ready for the stupid name calling .
Even easier than that. He most likely got financing through the "ePassporte Bank" in Curacao where all incoming wires go to and apparently all ePassporte wallet funds are held. That bank seems to be owned by ePassporte. He could have just approved his own loans himself.
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Hi Guys. I just read the news. I'm going to get my lawyers on this and find out what is going on. If you have over $1000 in your VV account and need some help in the matter let me know. I'll see what I can do to help out everyone who is in need.

If any other sponsors want to step in and join in on this with me let me know. I can tell from the posts that most people won't even call and are going to rely on others for the information.

I'd like to do my part to help you guys out and make sure if there is any money disbursed as many of you get paid out as possible.
What's your email/ICQ Shap?
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I'm on my phone can someone add up the rough amounts listed to give us a ballpark figure of what we are looking at as a group? Thanks
Just went through the 4 pages, and it seems to be ~700k including the french guy with 250k
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Nice to see someone trying to get "a real attention"
i'm in full respect whatever u trying to do for this situation..
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Wow amazing how fast it can add up. There is real power in numbers. It's tough to do something when you are owed $1k. In fact I'm owed about $8k and at that amount getting my lawyer involved really makes no sense. I'll keep you guys posted. I've got a flight at 3 so I'm packing then calling my lawyer on my drive in to work.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:47 AM   #199
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Shap, any news? I am waiting for you before I contact the bank and the lawyer myself.
Yes, many of us are.
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hey shap, what is your email address. if you dont want to put it on the board, drop me an email (see sig).

I already done some research on the structures of their companies etc etc, thought it might come in handy for the lawyer
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