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Old 10-11-2010, 11:39 AM   #151
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Fabian seems very clued in about other aspects of the DMCA, yet clueless on this one. Even when told it's pirated and he checked it's pirated, it stay up.
Actually, in case of TopBucks, I was specifically asked not to take it down yet. In terms of BangBros, never said it was pirated, just said we had no license for it. Not the same thing obviously... but I know I do not have to explain that one to you...
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Old 10-11-2010, 12:11 PM   #152
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Nathan, if someone violates your TOS, I would think you could delete, ban or anything you want based on that TOS violation. Otherwise, why bother have a TOS in the first place? It then becomes a TOS violation and not a DMCA issue.
you can't tos away fair use
which means if they take it down as TOS and the court ultimately rule that posting was covered by fair use (ala commentary was extended to include that) then manwin would be liable

if they wait for the DMCA then the copyright holder who issued the takedown notice has the liability

http://www.onlinepolicy.org/action/l...opg_v_diebold/

what nat is defending is just smart business, if the copyright holder truely believes that commentary will never be extended to that level, then let them take the liability for it

if they do let the content stay up.

manwin washes their hands of it accept non of the liability from either side of the arguement

he would be a world class moron to do anything else.
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no shit you mean tubes really steal content?!?!!!!!111111
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For the records, if I had 100 million dollars, none of you would ever see or hear from my monkey ass again.

Seriously, that is a LOT of money. How much more do you need before you just go do fun shit all the time with your family? I know I wouldn't be on GFY, that is for damn sure.
it would take a lot less than 100 million dollars to make me never come back here or to my office - the second it hits my bank account you will only see a cloud of dust which is me running as fast as i can
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it would take a lot less than 100 million dollars to make me never come back here or to my office - the second it hits my bank account you will only see a cloud of dust which is me running as fast as i can
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Doing a little search and found this guy.

This is his profile.

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So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????
Technical glitch? I'm just sayin...
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I hear that Nathan isnt even really a "managing partner"

He owns very little in this.
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it would take a lot less than 100 million dollars to make me never come back here or to my office - the second it hits my bank account you will only see a cloud of dust which is me running as fast as i can
Running? If I had 100 million dollars i'd have a team of midgets carrying me around in a sedan chair.
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Hello Fabian. I was just wondering if you could tell us more now in regards to the questions you needed to consult with your lawyers prior to answering.
I also wonder what the answers were! Wasn't he going to ask his attorneys a week-ago-yesterday?????
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Hello Fabian. I was just wondering if you could tell us more now in regards to the questions you needed to consult with your lawyers prior to answering.
I'm sure he was told they could legally remove the videos since the user clearly violated their terms of service on multiple occasions. However, Nathan will dance around some other shit and have reasons for why they can't, probably insulting us along the way with the usual condescending tone, leaving off exactly where it all started.

I'm looking forward to it. He's so predictable.
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Maybe today Fabian will post the results of his consultations with his attorneys?
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I'm sure he was told they could legally remove the videos since the user clearly violated their terms of service on multiple occasions.
only if they are clueless lawyers who know nothing about fair use and copyright law

if the lawyers are the kind of guys who were involved on any of the fair use cases over the last few years (timeshifting/formatshifting/backup/recovery)

they would tell him about the huge potential liablity of removing the video without notification from the actual copyright lawyer.

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However, Nathan will dance around some other shit and have reasons for why they can't, probably insulting us along the way with the usual condescending tone, leaving off exactly where it all started.

I'm looking forward to it. He's so predictable.
if your so sure that there is no liability why not stand security for the liability then

putting up your house/and everything you earn for a liability that will never exist is a no brainer.
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Write a script. Spider all 2300 videos uploaded by rampaux and file a DMCA with each of the urls listed. They HAVE to respond, and remove all the videos/urls unless a counter is filed.
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as i pointed out to paul before

most likely just a transpositional in the variable posting

see above

of course paul wants to try and argue that is proof the account was faked and that it was an internal employee who posted the videos.

let not destroy his fantasy that he has found proof of wrong doing, it not like he is smart enough to actually come up with a good new idea.
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I hear that Nathan isnt even really a "managing partner"

He owns very little in this.
He was outsourced.
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Bump for Fabian answers to the GFY folks who contributed to this thread and read all his postings.
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Bump for Fabian answers to the GFY folks who contributed to this thread and read all his postings.
Yes, further comment on the matter would be appreciated even if it is "my lawyers have advised me not to discuss this further here."
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only if they are clueless lawyers who know nothing about fair use and copyright law

if the lawyers are the kind of guys who were involved on any of the fair use cases over the last few years (timeshifting/formatshifting/backup/recovery)

they would tell him about the huge potential liablity of removing the video without notification from the actual copyright lawyer.
Youtube removes all movies if the user is banned. Rapidshare is doing the same. Webhosts do not remove part of a website, they remove all on the account if their user is banned. Are you telling their laywers have no clue?

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Youtube removes all movies if the user is banned. Rapidshare is doing the same. Webhosts do not remove part of a website, they remove all on the account if their user is banned. Are you telling their laywers have no clue?
No gideongallery is merely reminding you that HE personally has no clue about anything to do with any of this. The only thing he knows how to do is use a bit torrent to back up his obsession for watching television.

What we have is a couch potato who watches hours and hours of television trying to armchair lawyer.

In reality...shouldn't gideongallery be busy writing that email to thedoc that he's been working on now for MONTHS? Oh that's right...gideongallery is OWNED by thedoc and is thedoc's BITCH.
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There's an IGNORE function on this forum and it's really the perfect way to deal with trolls like Gideon...I suggest everyone use it.
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Maybe either he and/or his attorneys were on vacation last week, and he'll tell us today about his consultations with them?
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Is Nathan/Fabian/Manwin ignoring us who are interested in his replay???
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LOL Dave. I admire you for many reasons, heh heh. But your persistence is inspiring.

Bump for fonzi, the 140 million dollar programmer, to answer questions~
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Thanks, charlie g -----I got the impression that your "fonzi" would post here after consulting with his attorney. But........:-(
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I emailed him so he can reply.
If anyone else wantes to contact him here's his contact details he uses in his emails.

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Is Nathan/Fabian/Manwin ignoring us who are interested in his replay???
I'm pretty sure we can all assume what he is going to say. None of us can think for 1 second that anything is really changing over there.

If Youtube will delete all of a users videos, then Manwin has zero excuse, even though we will get one from them. I believe Google knows a thing or two and probably has a few good attorneys. If they can do it...
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Youtube removes all movies if the user is banned.
youtube does not remove all videos if an account gets banned

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wCdB8...eature=related


click on the
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Rapidshare is doing the same. Webhosts do not remove part of a website, they remove all on the account if their user is banned.
well given the fact you were totally wrong about youtube, odds are you are totally wrong about rapid share too.

but even if you were not
1. they are not american
2. their actions would be not be censoring in nature unlike a tube site.


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no i am saying you have no clue, the video example i just showed you proves that youtube does not delete all the videos from an account when they bann an account

the video is still up

the account is gone, that would never happen if all the videos are deleted when the account is banned.


you are talking out of your ass
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oh and btw the reason a web host removes the entire website when a user is banned is because the hosting of the entire site is the service you lose.

by definition the lose of the service is what banning you does.

that is completely different then a service which acts as a host on a video by video bases.

where each transaction is defined as infringing or non infringing individually

like i proved youtube does not take down all the videos when they take down a user for TOS violation.
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hey gideon you're a fucking retard.
they give you three strikes
three strikes and you're out.
so fuck off. they do ban accounts 1000%.
youtube does not tolerate repeat infractions of their TOS.
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hey gideon you're a fucking retard.
they give you three strikes
three strikes and you're out.
so fuck off. they do ban accounts 1000%.
youtube does not tolerate repeat infractions of their TOS.
what exactly about this statement do you not understand
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i never said youtube doesn't ban users at all i said they don't remove all the videos from their site AFTER they ban a user for TOS violation.



dirty dane /robbie/etc were basically BALD FACE LYING when they claimed that youtube removes all the videos from the account AFTER a use is BANNED.


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however a video that he/she posted is still up

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wCdB8...eature=related

that the point

youtube does not remove the ALL the videos of a BANNED user

they remove only the videos complaint about

just like what nat was doing
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funny how dave stopped bumping this thread after i posted proof that youtube doesn't remove all the videos when they ban an account
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I think Nathan should keep his word and get back in here to explain things now that he's had over 10 days to query his attorney(s?)
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There will be no comment about what our lawyers said. Rest assured that we know what we have to and can do.
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For the record, if I had 100 million dollars, none of you would ever see or hear from my monkey ass again.

Seriously, that is a LOT of money. How much more do you need before you just go do fun shit all the time with your family? I know I wouldn't be on GFY, that is for damn sure.
I love your monkey ass...



Nathan / Fabian ass? Not so much, considering the diseased infestation.

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This thread is funny. Once again, the fight is fought on a public message board instead of a court.
that because in a public message board you can lie and claim that youtube removes all the video when they ban a user

and people like robbie and dave will ignore the proof that they don't


in a court of law you can't make shit up / you have to prove what your saying before it will be considered valid.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:12 AM   #194
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and people like robbie and dave will ignore the proof that they don't
Calling my name AGAIN gideongallery. You truly are a pathetic piece of shit. Shouldn't you be getting in touch with THEDOC.

By the way, I wasn't part of the "Youtube" discussion. Yet you call my name to give yourself attention. You need to go get a job son

And why did they leave that video up? Who knows with YouTube? They removed our first music video because it was against their "community guidelines" and it was a music video. They took it down because Claudia-Marie was in a bikini with her tits jiggling. lol

They didn't worry about DMCA or anything. There wasn't even any nudity. The original video to "Get With Me' is on http://tptrash.com/ I had to make a censored video for them to leave it up. And the only thing I censored was CM in a bikini with NO nudity at all and everything having meaning to the song.

Yet they leave up a "teen stripping" that doesn't even belong to the uploader? Wow!

And by the way...I used to have an account a year ago. I put up some trailers for Claudia-Marie.Com that I made especially for YouTube. Absolutely NO nudity in them at all. Just humor.

I put up five of them. They cited me for each video, deleted my user account and deleted EVERY video.

And that is my experience. So fuck you gideongallery. Nobody is "bald faced lying"
I have no idea why they didn't delete that users video. Maybe because it was his first offense and he's on "suspension"? I don't know. But I do know that they gave me 3 strikes immediately and deleted all my trailers a year ago. And it looks like they didn't get into any legal trouble for doing so.

As if ANYBODY would "report" Pornhub for deleting videos off of their own server. What a joke.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:08 AM   #195
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Gideon, you need to just fight the torrent fight, oh wait, the big ones are gone.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:42 AM   #196
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This thread made my eyes bleed
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:54 AM   #197
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There will be no comment about what our lawyers said. Rest assured that we know what we have to and can do.


Let me guess, he said... STEAL MORE VIDEOS and blame it on surfers.

Seriously man, I've never in all my years and all my travels seen someone so full of shit.

BTW... Dean Capture just owned your ass in another thread.

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I exchanged a few emails with Nathan about a month ago. Two points worth mentioning from that conversation:

First, Nathan admitted to me that he profits from stolen content. He went on to say that only a small portion of his total income was from stolen content so he didn't have a problem with it. And, he said that he doesn't profit from stolen content "on purpose". The only way for him NOT to profit from stolen content is to shut down his tube sites, which according to Nathan ... he has no intention of doing.

Secondly, Nathan agreed with me that profiting from stolen content was unethical and that because he profits from stolen content, he is unethical.
That calls for a few dancing bananas....

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This thread is funny. Once again, the fight is fought on a public message board instead of a court.

I made the thread to see if Nathan was a man of his word, based on a comment he made in another thread. Nothing more. You can come to your own own conclusion to decide if he is or not.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:38 PM   #198
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Calling my name AGAIN gideongallery. You truly are a pathetic piece of shit. Shouldn't you be getting in touch with THEDOC.

By the way, I wasn't part of the "Youtube" discussion. Yet you call my name to give yourself attention. You need to go get a job son
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Youtube removes all movies if the user is banned. Rapidshare is doing the same. Webhosts do not remove part of a website, they remove all on the account if their user is banned. Are you telling their laywers have no clue?
you responded backing his bald face lie with this

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No gideongallery is merely reminding you that HE personally has no clue about anything to do with any of this. The only thing he knows how to do is use a bit torrent to back up his obsession for watching television.

What we have is a couch potato who watches hours and hours of television trying to armchair lawyer.

In reality...shouldn't gideongallery be busy writing that email to thedoc that he's been working on now for MONTHS? Oh that's right...gideongallery is OWNED by thedoc and is thedoc's BITCH.
fact is i proved that youtube does not take down all the video automatically by actually showing everyone an example of a video still being left up after an account was banned.

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And why did they leave that video up? Who knows with YouTube? They removed our first music video because it was against their "community guidelines" and it was a music video. They took it down because Claudia-Marie was in a bikini with her tits jiggling. lol

They didn't worry about DMCA or anything. There wasn't even any nudity. The original video to "Get With Me' is on http://tptrash.com/ I had to make a censored video for them to leave it up. And the only thing I censored was CM in a bikini with NO nudity at all and everything having meaning to the song.

Yet they leave up a "teen stripping" that doesn't even belong to the uploader? Wow!

And by the way...I used to have an account a year ago. I put up some trailers for Claudia-Marie.Com that I made especially for YouTube. Absolutely NO nudity in them at all. Just humor.

I put up five of them. They cited me for each video, deleted my user account and deleted EVERY video.




And that is my experience. So fuck you gideongallery. Nobody is "bald faced lying"
I have no idea why they didn't delete that users video. Maybe because it was his first offense and he's on "suspension"? I don't know. But I do know that they gave me 3 strikes immediately and deleted all my trailers a year ago. And it looks like they didn't get into any legal trouble for doing so.

As if ANYBODY would "report" Pornhub for deleting videos off of their own server. What a joke.
so because your to much of a pussy to take youtube to court, pornhub should risk losing in court because you say so.

You being a pussy not willing to backup your oppinion that your free speach was violated (with the legal fight with youtube) doesn't eliminate the liablity for porn hub

DD (and you by backing him) claimed that youtube deletes all videos when an account get banned, that is a bald face lie, because i found a video that was still up even though the account was banned.

It didn't take that long to do, just spider the site for the banned account phrase, and see if any videos existed in those peoples channel.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:54 PM   #199
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lol at the time gideo wastes on gfy trying to sell his case.

bahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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no shit you mean tubes really steal content?!?!!!!!111111
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