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Nathan / Fabian - Please step inside. Time to step up to the plate.
Fabian,
In another thread you made a comment about banning users who upload videos they do not own the copyright to. The statement: Quote:
Old 3 (removed): 1) http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Ae/video215636/ 2) http://www.spankwire.com/Thai-Babe-Nueng/video177433/ 3) http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-Asian-E...s/video151745/ New 4 (just sent): http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Jen/video215638/ http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Nok/video215641/ http://www.spankwire.com/Nam-Bangkok...e/video214771/ http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-asian-Joy/video199836/ This is a total of 7 infringements of my videos, by the same user. User Name: rampaux User Uploads: 2353 User Profile: http://www.spankwire.com/Profile.asp...&UserId=349041 Based on your statement of, "I think that currently is 3 infringements" before they are banned, have at it sir. Strike three, you're out! You say you are changing thing over there, now is a great time to show you mean it. It would also be the right move and a show of a real commitment to turning your company around if you deleted all of his files, all 2353 of them. If he is banned for uploading videos he does not hold the copyright to, all of his videos should be deleted as well, as we both know he doesn't hold the copyright to them either. And by the way, I am only on page 12 of his videos when I found the last 4 of mine. Only 87 more pages of illegally uploaded videos to go! How many more of mine do you think are in there? What say you, sir? |
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all tube uploading is done inhouse...
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of course, everyone knows that
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All he has to do now...
1) turn off all videos uploaded by this user. 2) transfer his uploads to another house account. 3) ban user. 4) add new user to scheduled turn on script scheduled for 2 weeks from now. 5) claim somebody uploaded 2000+ videos in 1 second. |
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No evil uploader in the safety of his home?? verdomme!!
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Best of luck with this BWB
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Doing a little search and found this guy.
http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24 This is his profile. * Joined: 4 days ago * Last Login: 3 weeks ago * Videos Watched: 226 * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago???????? But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something. So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him. ![]() He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy. |
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Then there is this guy. Anonymous0
* Joined: 1 year ago * Last Login: 1 year ago * Videos Watched: 0 (He didn't have the time or the speed to watch anything. LOL) * People have watched Anonymous0 videos: 48,508,736 times Public Videos (1205) Yes 48 million views. on 1205 videos. And he joined a year ago and has not logged in for a year. ![]() It will take someone with cash and balls to take Manwin to court and ask them to explain some of these uploaders. |
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There are plenty of tubes where users upload videos themselves. Especially that one's that then allow the users to hot link, or embed, the video on to forums. You are essentially hosting it for them so they can share and get their high fives, hence they repeat this process daily. It's not mystery science theatre.
Sometimes I wonder if a large number of people that post on this forum have a collective clue about surfer behavior. To keep insisting that 'ALL' tubes are not user uploaded and done by the owner(s) is wrong, and completely asinine. It is no wonder that this industry is in trouble. ![]() |
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BWB is BlackWhiteBoy = Michael Jackson
DWB is completely different </trying to be funny> Good luck on fighting against the assholes! ![]() A bit like Don Quixote, but its important and the more ppl that step up against this the better. ![]()
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Its amazing the hoops the tube sites make people jump through. I bet they laugh at you guys... " haha got 20 more requests to take down videos today, takes me 10 seconds to delete them and about 10 more seconds to replace them back tomorrow under another fake account".
I don't know what is more odd, the "game" of trying to get your shit removed or the fact that people actually play it.
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There's a lot of blogs using pornhost as a video hoster.
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Looks like they took them all down.
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Mars Attacks "Why Can't We All Just Get Along?"
I think this pretty much sums up the Tube Wars
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this is a joke right? You really think that uploader is not a Manwin employee?
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I do not need to explain it. I do not host it, I am not law enforcement, nor is it my tube in whatever example is being cited. So it's none of my business. The owner would need to explain that if they felt the need. Otherwise, they simply have to follow DMCA compliance. |
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I think this shows how obvious it is that the majority of the content was uploaded by the sites owners.
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Check out this quote from the blog of JJ09 (2100 videos uploaded):
"As you all can see I have upload a lots of videos. The funny thing is even if it's that many there are 4 kind of videos that seems to be very popular. I have never ever expect that, after I started to upload them. Top 4 Most Popular Videos On JJ's Profile * DareDorm * MoneyTalks * BangBus * Can He Score Anyway as long as I can find them, I will continue to upload them." http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09 |
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If even one pirated movie is proven to have been uploaded by either 1) the tube owner 2) it's employees 3) someone working under their direction; then this may have significant legal consequences. Especially if the organization in question has stated under oath that they have done no such thing.
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fuck those cunts from brazzers
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Let's be honest if Fabian or any of the big tube owners actually cared about copyright infringement they would make sure the user uploading the content has the rights to it before the content goes live.
It's as simple as that, get a producer account and be allowed to upload. Until a tube owner does that then they are just allowing other to steal and upload content. Unless it goes to court and there is a warrant for up loader IP's there is no way to tell who is uploading the content, so if Fabian or any other tube owner wants to prove they give a shit about theft they will kill all user uploads and only allow pre-approved submitters. Fabian seems dead set on making things right over there, let's see how he moves the company forward.
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Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
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If I had a tube and had people uploading for me, I would not have them doing it from the office. I'd spread people out across the world to do it. India, Philippines, New Work, Texas, Canada, and so on. You would never get caught that way.
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Long live the tubes!
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DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
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That's like the cops saying...."yeah we know he stole this car, but we can't arrest him because he actually paid for the underwear he's wearing". They violated your own TOS. In your TOS you say you can delete their account. Just quit bullshitting us and tell us what you really want to say: "We don't want to delete the other videos that repeat offenders upload because we like having stolen content on our site to bring in traffic to justify our ad rates." |
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I would think you should check DMCA law about those other videos. If your user violated your TOS 7 times (from me alone) and did not have permission to load those videos, that leads me and everyone else, including you, to believe he is loading nothing but videos he does not have the right to load. You clearly did not buy the rights to those videos otherwise that would implicate him as someone who works for you. The studios did not give him permission to post them, because for starters, he stole mine, and if he was given access to 2300 videos to put up for free, he would not bother stealing a single one. He has 2300+ videos and you want me to believe he as the rights to all of them, after he just got caught with mine? He doesn't. The sheer numbers of videos alone from a plethora of different studios, tells you, without a doubt, he does not own the rights to all of them. I can speak personally and say at least 7 of them were there without permission, and I'm just on page 12 out of 99 of his pages. A note from the user, from his profile: Quote:
I didn't really think this was going to go anywhere but I figured I would give it a shot so at least I would know without a shadow of a doubt, that what I believed to be true, was true. Thanks for replying and removing the new videos in question, even if temporarily. |
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I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
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Why is that odd? There are a ton of people like that on YouTube also, those are not odd supposedly? Sorry, but a copyrighted video is not automatically infringing. Far from it actually.
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You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones? Use your head. In this case, it is a no brainier those videos are not supposed to be there. To think they do, for any reason, says you are being negligent. |
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Banning a user is a certain circumstance and other hosts like YouTube or Rapidshare remove all content from public if the user is banned. I can't see why a porn tube is different regarding DMCA. The user is no longer in control and can't respond on claims if you keep it online.
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ya if the content isnt owned by him, they should get removed, and whats with the users registering weeks ago, and last time they were online was a year ago, think you fucked up when registering fake nicks so you can get away with uploading stolen videos.
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Uh Oh Fabien/Nathian. You dun goofed!!!! Cyber police backtraced you and is coming for you. Fucking thief.
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i think it just proves i just came on a sock.
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This video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=298394919 Claims to be "Added: 1 month ago" And there are also private videos which claim to be added "2 weeks ago" Here's another that Half man, Half Amazing brought up in the other topic: http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09 Quote:
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