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Old 10-15-2010, 08:57 PM   #201
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this is very entertaining more please!
That's part of the reason why these threads are so popular.

Big part of posters here seem to be just (fail) trolls. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Some are just idiots, and small part actually have some logic in their posts. It's a tough crowd, but understandibly there's not very much room to make mistakes when trying to become a credible epass alternative.

One this is for sure, there will be some epass alternative, people who tell to use only checks/wires that's fine if you can take those, but realize that the Majority of former epass users were from locations where they could not take checks/wires or it is very inconvenient.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:02 PM   #202
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Hello, Octav here.

I apologize for the mistaken list on paxum.com earlier today, I take full responsibility for the error as the company owner. Let me explain what happened even that it dose not excuse our error. This was updated by the person responsible for publishing the paxum sponsors page from the design team. The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option. The person who manages the sponsors page inadvertently transcribed the list of programs we were asked to talk to on to that page instead of the list of sponsors itself. We were notified about 1 hour ago about the problem and took immediate action to remove it.

Thank you for your understanding, my sincere apologies to all on gfy and specially to the programs that were listed by mistake without their consent.

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its always blame the designer, when a program makes banners out of materials they dont own the rights too, its always the designer.

its your fault, or someone elses fault. dont blame it on someone thats not you, excuses, excuses.

listing a bunch of programs that will probably not even signup with you now since you did this to get attention is one dumb fucking move.

hope it was worth it.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:06 PM   #203
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Kindergarten is more like saying that companies are using your services when they are not.

Move on... ? it's GFY.... don't come here whoring for customers in practically every thread and then be upset when some people don't like what you are offering or what you are saying.

Just the same, if Paxum doesn't like it they can move on and go whore another board.

The fact of the matter is, if Paxum would have had their shit together, wouldn't have slammed the board so hard and understood how to talk to people, be upfront with them, made opportunities out of issues instead of bigger messes, they would be smelling like a rose right now. Unfortunately for them you only get 1 first impression.

It's all in the way you handle yourself, the way you come across and how you deal with people. They could have done things so much better. For starters, paying to advertise here would have been a better gesture then a bunch of reps whoring and would have shown people they could at least afford the price to advertise vs a free ride trying to pluck people from the board.
You don't get it. They havn't learned how to relate to trolls like you and therefor feel they need to respond to every god damn pointless thing you and some others bring up. Them stumbling here and there in their communication doesn't mean there are any sense in what you are preaching. Latest hot topic now from you guys is grammar. Fun times.

But by all means, keep bumping these threads with nonsense that doesn't matter. I already got my Paxum card with money loaded and are leaving this whole ePass mess behind me. If I need to, I will also order a card from I-Payouts or whatever they call themselves. They seem like a good alternative for ppl who will never use Payoneer. I'll let guys like you save affiliates from the evil e-wallet companies.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:06 PM   #204
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its always blame the designer, when a program makes banners out of materials they dont own the rights too, its always the designer.

its your fault, or someone elses fault. dont blame it on someone thats not you, excuses, excuses.

listing a bunch of programs that will probably not even signup with you now since you did this to get attention is one dumb fucking move.

hope it was worth it.
either that or rogue employee

Seriously though, the owner apologized, removed it, all is good again. WAY bigger issues out there.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:30 PM   #205
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PR_Dave, think about adding Payoneer and Paxum payouts..
These systems are very different:
Payoneer - has the experience, but inconvenient to use;
Paxum - haven't an experience, but have favorable fees and meet all requirements of international adult webmasters.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:37 PM   #206
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If all the trolls bashing Paxum spent that time on work they would have earned minimum monthly payout somewhere by now, and would actually appreciate a card. Paxum, CashX, Payoneer, EMC2, wherever... I don't care as long as it works for you

Stop the fucking mindless bashing. If you gonna bash, at least pick a topic that matters. Like what is done to ensure site security and individual account integrity. From an affiliates pov that is something that matters. Paxum is new, without any track record, yes, it's an undisputed fact, move the fuck on. Sponsors, big and small, do their due diligence and make their decisions regardless of what you dipshits say or feel. If a sponsor feel they need at least some track record before they move, fine. It's an argument that has to be respected.

"I took a screenshot" Wtf! Is this kindergarten all over again? What are you gonna do? Sue because they erroneously sent you some new affiliates that thought it was great that you offered Paxum payments?
Indeed,if it doesn't work for you find another solution.I hate paying unnecessary fees
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:42 PM   #207
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:17 PM   #208
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I am sticking to good old fashion checks until the dust settles.
checks and wire, the only way to go.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:29 PM   #209
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checks and wire, the only way to go.
For US (and some 10% EU) webmasters - maybe. But if Partnership Program want to work with international webmasters, need another solutions.
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:19 PM   #210
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come on, u guys are here acting holier than thou.. yet half of u use shady tactics on ur sites..


if you are SO honest, why dont you send an email to a customer before rebilling, and give him the OPTION to continue.. why do sites automatically rebill customers??

Because they hope they forget... whats the difference between that and the penis pills

dont give me that fucking nonsense.. 90% of porn sites are hoping the member rebills and forgets about it..

if you are so honest, you should automatically cancel the subscription if u notice the customer hasnt logged on in months, but nah, u come here and hope u get a 1yr rebilling member......

so u guys dont act like u r so innocent.. fact is business is business, and making money has some parts that arent so moral.. one way or another most businesses "screw" people out of their money
this makes everyone shady in adult except cams
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:32 PM   #211
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this makes everyone shady in adult except cams

mlm companies are clean.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:24 AM   #212
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Seriously! We do not pay via Paxum.

https://www.paxum.com/payment/sponso.../sponsors.xsl&
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:31 AM   #214
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It takes 30-40 days to cash a check and around $20 / check
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:21 AM   #217
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at this rate, you're going to get banhammered for excessive harassment (yes, you have no grounds to continue slamming and badmouthing the service)
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:04 AM   #219
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why do people like will who admittedly only use checks even have an opinion about this? get a life.
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Paxum may or may not be a worthwhile operation. However I have been around long enough to see many financial type operations fail. iBill to ePassporte and all the others in between. I certainly wont be using Paxum, not because they are bad, but because I have seen too many failures to trust a new kid on the block just yet.

The response from Paxum to the original error listing sponsors not using them was amateurish in the extreme and not inspiring at all.

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Paxum may or may not be a worthwhile operation. However I have been around long enough to see many financial type operations fail. iBill to ePassporte and all the others in between. I certainly wont be using Paxum, not because they are bad, but because I have seen too many failures to trust a new kid on the block just yet.

The response from Paxum to the original error listing sponsors not using them was amateurish in the extreme and not inspiring at all.


It's fucking scary to see how many people in this industry are jumping on the new wave so quickly... it's like they're being paid.

It's like mindless zombies chanting...


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Everyone is giving Paxum shit because they have the biggest presence. Other systems aren't anywhere close on the radar, so no one even bothers to shit on them.
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That's part of the reason why these threads are so popular.

Big part of posters here seem to be just (fail) trolls. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Some are just idiots, and small part actually have some logic in their posts. It's a tough crowd, but understandibly there's not very much room to make mistakes when trying to become a credible epass alternative.

One this is for sure, there will be some epass alternative, people who tell to use only checks/wires that's fine if you can take those, but realize that the Majority of former epass users were from locations where they could not take checks/wires or it is very inconvenient.
who the fuck are you?? it was entertaining im not taking sides
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Seriously! We do not pay via Paxum.
Simply out of curiosity and because you've been in this biz a long time: How will you respond to your thousands of affiliates when many of them will address you or your rep's on why you don't carry Paxum as a payment option.
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this makes everyone shady in adult except cams
no it doesn't you fucking retard.

when people buy a membership to a pay site, they get daily updates and a product that they paid for. they're delivered what they paid for. when you buy penis pills, you don't get a bigger dick. it's a rip off.

recurring memberships are nothing shady. god there are some morons here.
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Simply out of curiosity and because you've been in this biz a long time: How will you respond to your thousands of affiliates when many of them will address you or your rep's on why you don't carry Paxum as a payment option.
Are you going to give them the link to this thread?
there aren't thousands of affiliates left. you guys can keep it up like you're all traffic gods still, but the truth of the matter is, anyone with any kind of joins left will take a wire and be happy about it.
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there aren't thousands of affiliates left. you guys can keep it up like you're all traffic gods still, but the truth of the matter is, anyone with any kind of joins left will take a wire and be happy about it.
that sounds bad colon check j/k
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Simply out of curiosity and because you've been in this biz a long time: How will you respond to your thousands of affiliates when many of them will address you or your rep's on why you don't carry Paxum as a payment option.
Are you going to give them the link to this thread?
My guess is no one worthwhile requested it yet, and probably never will... you don't think if a whale requested it, they would add it? of course they would... like Alprazolam said, real players in this industry use wires... only amateurs sending 1 sale every 2 weeks need paxum or other similar payment systems...
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The response from Paxum to the original error listing sponsors not using them was amateurish in the extreme and not inspiring at all.
At least seemed quite straigthforward, believeable and fast response, unlike Epassporte or Payoneer or many others.

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It's fucking scary to see how many people in this industry are jumping on the new wave so quickly... it's like they're being paid.
That's exactly the reason I think, many people don't have a better option and they want to get paid before next year, most of the epass customers were from Russia etc.

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who the fuck are you?? it was entertaining im not taking sides
I wasn't directing my reply to you, but merely quoting it for the truth. But some Other people here do stir things up just because they don't have better things to do.
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We have no stake in these companies other than paying our affiliates with whatever methods they are asking for and now the crowd is telling us PAXUM.

And no...its not cool to say a certain company pays via paxum when its not true...
Aren't you the guy that denied any connection between Brazzers and PornHub?
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Simply out of curiosity and because you've been in this biz a long time: How will you respond to your thousands of affiliates when many of them will address you or your rep's on why you don't carry Paxum as a payment option.
Are you going to give them the link to this thread?
Any affiliate worth their time will be happily taking wire or check. Sorry, but even webmasters in third world countries (not that there are many) can receive a wire. The thing is that everybody bitching that they need this do so little business in reality that they cannot afford the wire fees.

If you're getting a $1,000 payment, spending $60 on wire fees is no big deal to know that you're money is 110% safe.

The thing about affiliate programs is 80% of the affiliates are not even worth the time. The one's saying "I need Paxum or will not promote you" usually always fall into that 80%.
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My guess is no one worthwhile requested it yet, and probably never will... you don't think if a whale requested it, they would add it? of course they would... like Alprazolam said, real players in this industry use wires... only amateurs sending 1 sale every 2 weeks need paxum or other similar payment systems...
Damn, you and Alprazolam are dumb as fuck. If you are a whale with one sponsor you wouldn't request Paxum payouts in the first place, unless you'r a moron. Every whale I know also got marginal sponsors where they earn from $50 to $200 per month. Thats where these e-wallet companies come in. You take this "float" and use for p2p, hosting, designs, traffic, pizza, hookers what have you. I have 5 sponsors that regularly send me wires. The rest, approx 15 to 20, sends me monthly or bi-monthly e-wallet payments. Just let me know if they don't want those signups anymore and Ill kill the links.
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Jesus Christ, how many Join Date Sept/Oct 2010 members do we need up in here defending Paxum?

If you want this to be believable, hit up TeenCat. He sales old gfy nicks cheep.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:54 AM   #238
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Damn, you and Alprazolam are dumb as fuck. If you are a whale with one sponsor you wouldn't request Paxum payouts in the first place, unless you'r a moron. Every whale I know also got marginal sponsors where they earn from $50 to $200 per month. Thats where these e-wallet companies come in. You take this "float" and use for p2p, hosting, designs, traffic, pizza, hookers what have you. I have 5 sponsors that regularly send me wires. The rest, approx 15 to 20, sends me monthly or bi-monthly e-wallet payments. Just let me know if they don't want those signups anymore and Ill kill the links.
You're in Canada, right? Take the check. If you cannot wait an extra 5 to 10 days for that money you need to get out of this thread and figure out why your finances are so fucked.

I'm starting to suspect that a lot of these people in first world countries (like Canada, US, UK) feel they need an e-wallet for tax evasion.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:54 AM   #239
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Anyone who has been in the industry for any reasonable length of time will know financial companies come and go. I've lost count of the number of fails. Remember the Visa crackdown and smaller processors fell like flies ?

I'll stick to check and wire, why entrust your money to a third party adding another degree of risk to the process of being paid ?
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:00 AM   #240
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I'll stick to check and wire, why entrust your money to a third party adding another degree of risk to the process of being paid ?
because of shit like this: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/992298-niche-steals-commisions-form-affiliates.html
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You're in Canada, right? Take the check. If you cannot wait an extra 5 to 10 days for that money you need to get out of this thread and figure out why your finances are so fucked.

I'm starting to suspect that a lot of these people in first world countries (like Canada, US, UK) feel they need an e-wallet for tax evasion.
didn't you start a thread begging for money once. fuck off.
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Sorry, Paxum are not going to solve the age old problem of Sponsors finding reasons not to pay you.

My point stands, why would you introduce another element of risk and entrust your funds to an unknown ? Years ago people were hyping up ePassfail and look what happened there.
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Jesus Christ, how many Join Date Sept/Oct 2010 members do we need up in here defending Paxum?
You cant connect the dots on that?
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You're in Canada, right? Take the check. If you cannot wait an extra 5 to 10 days for that money you need to get out of this thread and figure out why your finances are so fucked.
Thanks, my finances are just fine. I don't need to start threads begging for money. Unlike most in here i've been around long enough to have several legs to stand on. It's not about the time for me, it's convinience. Yes, I live in Canada but are European. I travel to Europe monthly and still do banking and biz in my home country.
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Sorry, Paxum are not going to solve the age old problem of Sponsors finding reasons not to pay you.

My point stands, why would you introduce another element of risk and entrust your funds to an unknown ? Years ago people were hyping up ePassfail and look what happened there.
I know they wont... but I'd rather trust my money to EPASSPORTE than to some sponsors out there...
LIKE THE SCAMMERS FROM MORE NICHE!!
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I know they wont... but I'd rather trust my money to EPASSPORTE than to some sponsors out there...
LIKE THE SCAMMERS FROM MORE NICHE!!
You'll find alot of Epassporte victims who will disagree with you there.

Why do you think a sponsor who wont pay you by cheque or wire will suddenly want to pay you via a third party ?
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Damn, you and Alprazolam are dumb as fuck. If you are a whale with one sponsor you wouldn't request Paxum payouts in the first place, unless you'r a moron. Every whale I know also got marginal sponsors where they earn from $50 to $200 per month. Thats where these e-wallet companies come in. You take this "float" and use for p2p, hosting, designs, traffic, pizza, hookers what have you. I have 5 sponsors that regularly send me wires. The rest, approx 15 to 20, sends me monthly or bi-monthly e-wallet payments. Just let me know if they don't want those signups anymore and Ill kill the links.
How are we dumb as fuck? I'm just telling it like it is from sponsor's perspective... you don't think sponsor would offer it if it was worthwhile to them? Obviously it's not worth the drama to the sponsor to keep a few 2 sales per month affiliates around...

And how come no big affiliates are chiming in on this issue either? I didn't see FreeOnes or Rabbit's Reviews in any of the epass alternative threads? What am I missing?
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And how come no big affiliates are chiming in on this issue either? I didn't see FreeOnes or Rabbit's Reviews in any of the epass alternative threads? What am I missing?
Is that the only whales you know? Because you see them actively posting here? Most whales have no interest in posting regularly here. Anyway, this isn't about the whales. The whales cant and wont send traffic to everyone. And you can be a whale in one niche while you'r small potato in another.
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